Cycling vs. Driving and the Death of Car Culture

Guest Post by Eric Peters

There’s North and South, liberals and conservatives; Star Trek people and Star Wars people . . . but few divides are greater than that which exists between drivers and cyclists.

The etiology of the thing is interesting.

It bugs some drivers that cyclists have the gall (as the drivers see it) to ride on roads which they – the drivers – consider their own or at least, not suitable for bicycles, because they aren’t able to keep up with the flow of traffic and thus slow down the flow of traffic.

This is certainly true. Bikes sometimes can’t keep up with the flow of traffic.

It is equally true that slow-moving RVs, garbage trucks and commercial vehicles slow/impede the flow of traffic as much as a cyclist struggling to keep up – and an RV or garbage truck is harder to get around.

No one seriously argues that RVs and other slow-movers stay off the main roads because they’re slow and hard to get around. A cyclist’s claim to use the public of right of way (which isn’t a racetrack) is just as legitimate as the RV driver’s.

But that right to use the public right of way was much less frequently exercised by cyclists until relatively recently – and therein lies the source of the current rub.

I’m old enough to remember the ’70s and ’80s – and during those decades (also probably the ’60s and ’50s, which was before my time) pretty much only kids and teenagers who couldn’t drive yet rode bicycles and did so usually in neighborhoods, on side streets/trails and so on. I was among them. We rode to get to the arcade to goof off, to our friends’ houses and to (and from) school/practice.

We didn’t ride for sport/exercise.

We stayed off the main roads. Until we were old enough to drive. And then we largely gave up bicycling.

Very few adults rode bicycles in those days and so the main roads were default for motorized traffic. In theory, anyone could ride a bike on them. But almost no one did.

It’s just how it was. This coincided with the height of Car Culture. Perhaps not coincidentally.

Then – I think it began in the mid-late ’80s – adult cycling for recreation/sport began to get popular. It really took off in the ’90s. Which is interesting because of what began to happen to cars and driving at the very same time.

It’s now as common to see adults cycling as it used to be common to see kids on bicycles. The difference now being the adults regularly use the main roads. Which – again – they have every right to use, so long as the roads are public rights-of-way.

But it’s a manifestation of the dying off of Car Culture.

People – adults – are reverting to cycling. Not because they have to – as kids who couldn’t drive used to.

But because they want to.

I think adults cycle, in part, because of the relative freedom one still has on a bike vs. in a car, where very little freedom remains.

The bike doesn’t have to be inspected, stickered or license-plated. There are helmet laws in many states but that’s the only nanny law applied to cyclists – and their cycles.

They are in full control of their machine, which is made to their specifications. There is no NHTSA decreeing the design of bicycles – which aren’t required to have air bags, ABS, stability control or back-up cameras – and for this reason, remain affordable as well as fun.

Unlike new cars, which are designed to the specifications of government bureaucrats.

A bicycle doesn’t “assist” the rider’s steering or braking. It goes where the rider points it, as fast as the rider likes. It’s up to him to control it because the bike won’t do it for him.

There is satisfaction in the skill involved in cycling competently – which used to be satisfied by driving but largely isn’t anymore because cars have become Homogenized Transportation Modules which require almost no skill to operate.

But on a bike, you are on your own. You are free.

You can go this way or that way and no one knows where you’re going or been (unless you’ve got a cell phone with you) because the bike hasn’t got a black box or GPS or dongle from the insurance mafia plugged into its computer port – which it hasn’t got, either.

Speaking of that.

Cyclists aren’t forced to buy insurance, as everyone who drives must – which means more than just the obvious thing (not having to buy insurance). It also means that cyclists are free from the constant fear of the knows-all/sees-all insurance mafia, whose knowing all/seeing all and ability to mulct you for it hangs like an anvil over the head of every car driver. A single ticket can ruin more than your day. It can drain your wallet – and possibly take away your driving privileges.

Mark that.

On a bicycle, you might get a ticket – but the points don’t matter because you aren’t required to cover your bicycle. There’s no worry, therefore, about a premium increase because of some trumped-up ticket. You haven’t got a premium. And the government can’t suspend or revoke your right to ride.

This is freedom!

The freedom to ride without permission. One isn’t required to obtain, carry and present on AGW demand a license, as everyone who drives a car is legally obliged to.

An armed government worker can demand ID, but the cyclist isn’t obligated to carry it and the AGW can’t ticket or cage him for riding without one.

So it’s easy to understand why riding has become so popular. It’s very much what driving used to be. And that probably accounts, in part, for the friction between drivers and cyclists. The drivers see the freedom enjoyed by the cyclists – and resent it.

They envy what the cyclists have – and they’ve lost.

Which is probably why it’s been proposed here and there that cyclists be required to have licenses (and license plates) and have their bikes inspected for saaaaaaaaaaaaafety – as well as carry mandatory insurance. Misery apparently loves company. But it’s a low and despicable thing to wish suffering on others because you suffer.

Beleaguered drivers ought to cheer cyclists onward – happy in the knowledge that freedom still exists here and there. Instead, those who’ve lost theirs seem determined to make sure no one else has any, either.

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gatsby1219
gatsby1219
September 5, 2019 7:28 pm

You want to ride your bike on public streets and roads, buy tags and insurance like I am required to do.

If not, stay on the bike trails.

IPNW The South Had it Right
IPNW The South Had it Right
  gatsby1219
September 5, 2019 8:30 pm

Kiss my ass, gatsby1219! Just because you’re required to license and insure your gas guzzling land yacht – which is needed to haul your big fat, lazy, out of shape, lard ass around – isn’t a valid argument to support requiring the physically fit bicycling world to do the same.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
  IPNW The South Had it Right
September 6, 2019 5:07 am

So girly, when you run into my $50k truck, are you paying out of pocket for damages ?

p.s. there’s only one thing that’s big & fat on me…

Real Bikes Have Engines
Real Bikes Have Engines
  gatsby1219
September 6, 2019 9:37 am

The rise of the metrosexual’s

Real Bikes Have Engines
Real Bikes Have Engines
  Real Bikes Have Engines
September 6, 2019 11:36 am

My bicycle

Myhttps://images.app.goo.gl/jG6MRRgD3TeLNJCS8

Rico
Rico
  gatsby1219
September 6, 2019 12:29 pm

Gatsby12199 is a prime example of why listening to country music causes inbreeding .

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Rico
September 6, 2019 1:06 pm

Then stay the FUCK OUT OF THE COUNTRY, asshole!!! Don’t be eating our food grown in the country, don’t be using our petrol drilled in the country, don’t be hiring rednecks to plumb your shitter!

Goddamn ingrates.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  IPNW The South Had it Right
September 6, 2019 7:59 am

Bicycles on main streets suck. End of story.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  gatsby1219
September 5, 2019 8:56 pm

Insurance is linked to the possible damage you are likely to inflict on others while driving a car/truck vs. a bicycle. Also, totalling your car is usually more expensive than totalling a bike.

SebastianX1/9
SebastianX1/9
  gatsby1219
September 5, 2019 9:57 pm

No

Anonymous
Anonymous
  gatsby1219
September 6, 2019 12:31 am

I don’t have any problem with bikes riding on the roads, but they need to obey the traffic laws just like a car would have to. That means stop at stop signs, stay in your lane, don’t cut up onto sidewalks to pass stopped traffic, etc.

gilberts
gilberts
September 5, 2019 8:06 pm

I don’t know if that was correct, of if the riders are a bunch of pussyfarts who take their exercise regimen on the road to virtue signal to the rest of us how superior they are because muh werkout.

I live in the country and I see these douchers every day on a very busy primary road with no sidewalks and few places to exit the road. We have a great, big, beautiful, GORGEOUS park with a 20 mile long green belt along the river, complete with waterfalls, exercise points, swings, picnic tables, nearby restaurants, overpasses, etc but they have to clog the county roads out here, instead, causing a potential disaster, since a lot of my neighbors are complete morons behind the wheel. Seriously, you don’t want to drive a car here with them around. They’re slow, distracted by their iCrap, and they can’t figure out a traffic circle or the right of way, their turn signals, a lane change, or which lane you’re supposed to turn across traffic from. It’s insane to drive here.

Worse, the bikefags like to sport their dacron/nylon/lycra/spandex/underarmour dayglow skintight shirts and padded compression gayshorts and their aerodynamic dickhead helmets and eyesore red strobe lights. I saw a pack of them one morning in the dark, their many red strobes looking like some strange emergency vehicle until I got close enough to see them riding together, like a school of fish, making identical movements together. Seriously- when do these asshats go to work? I’m trying to meet a deadline in my morning commute and they’re all lollygagging around on the roads we’re commuting on.

I like my bike, but I don’t ride it in the road where I’m likely to get hit by some dude in a rush to hit the grocery store for a 6pack. Like I said- there’s no sidewalks. If you want to ride, either go to the park, go off-road, or get on the sidewalk. You’ll live longer. And you won’t be ruining my life.

IPNW The South Had it Right
IPNW The South Had it Right
  gilberts
September 5, 2019 9:19 pm

Ah, gilberts. Another jealous lard ass has to add another invalid argument. So, tell me fat boy, when the SHTF and there’s no gas or diesel available to fuel your limo, how are you going to get your out-of-shape ass around to run just menial errands of necessity, or make emergency runs and make exits to safey?

gilberts
gilberts
  IPNW The South Had it Right
September 5, 2019 9:51 pm

Looks like I touched a nerve. Are you one of those bikefags in the spandex?
Maybe you’re fit and maybe you’re (internet) tough, but I wouldn’t want to be caught dead in that getup.

Real Bikes Have Engines
Real Bikes Have Engines
  gilberts
September 6, 2019 4:35 am

It should be legal to run the arogant asshole bikefags over if they block traffic and can’t go the speed limit or don’t obey traffic laws

PAULA
PAULA
  Real Bikes Have Engines
September 6, 2019 7:19 am

Not run ’em over… just tag ’em so they run off the road where they belong.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  PAULA
September 6, 2019 12:25 pm

Well that would be assault with a deadly weapon. Cunt.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  IPNW The South Had it Right
September 6, 2019 8:00 am

Bikefags – love it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  IPNW The South Had it Right
September 6, 2019 2:37 pm

Interesting how IPNW consistently starts its/her/meta’s statement calling the previous commentator a lard ass. Project much? Based on its language, I’ll assume they are a metrosexual insecure with their sexual identity, living in a coastal city that bends over for their silly transportation demands. Out here in the real world where there are no miles and miles of taxpayer paid bicycle lanes (either carved out of the lanes previously sized for trucks and now squeezed to risk scrapping other cars in the narrowed lanes OR carved out of the natural world to give these prima donnas the space they demand), cyclists are a hazard. They rarely follow the rules of the road, probably imagining that all those ‘limos’ and ‘land yachts’ are the problem–not them. In CO we’re supposed to give them 4′ of space as we pass them; I prefer to give them maybe a foot as I have no interest in smacking the oncoming traffic.

Arthur Brogden
Arthur Brogden
  IPNW The South Had it Right
September 6, 2019 6:02 pm

Last I checked NO-ONE in America is running out of gas anytime in the next 100 years or so… So stop fantasizing about some Mad Max world dependent on “bikes”. Besides, us “Rednecks” with guns will just take your bike away from your oh so PC azz cause… why not. Meanwhile it’s the taxes on the gas we buy that pay for the roads you constantly clog, snarl and slow with your antics. So if there isn’t a “Bike Lane” and you can’t maintain the minimum posted MPH REQUIRED BY LAW…Or your too GD stoopid to obey the traffic laws… Stay the F**k off.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  gilberts
September 6, 2019 8:49 pm

They’re slow, distracted by their iCrap, and they can’t figure out a traffic circle or the right of way, their turn signals, a lane change, or which lane you’re supposed to turn across traffic from.

Yes, but the cyclists?
😉

Fast Floyd
Fast Floyd
September 5, 2019 9:08 pm

“…..envy what the cyclists have…..” I’ve experienced a “Critical Mass” of hundreds of cyclists intentionally blocking rush hour traffic in San Francisco, physically damaging automobiles that tried to edge through them and physically assaulting drivers.
I’m always courteous of single cyclists but in Ca. if you meet a large group of them, they’re stone assholes.

gilberts
gilberts
  Fast Floyd
September 5, 2019 9:52 pm

I’ve seen it in DC. They turn a nature trail shitty fast.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  gilberts
September 5, 2019 10:24 pm

They fucked Reston and Herndon to Hell 15 years ago! Anyone with an IQ higher than a tennis ball headed for the escape route from NOVA pronto.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Fast Floyd
September 6, 2019 3:54 am

So you have to ask yourself Why would anyone live in that state

John
John
September 5, 2019 9:12 pm

Cyclists need to learn to ride in groups and with AR-15’s slung on their shoulders. That would raise the “respect” level of drivers toward the cyclist.

Toheckwithyou
Toheckwithyou
  John
September 6, 2019 2:01 pm

Faggots don’t believe in the 2A

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
September 5, 2019 9:17 pm

As far as I’m concerned, they can use the main thoroughfares all they want. Generally, the main drags can handle the influx. It’s the asshole Lance Armstrong wannabes who use the country roads with no shoulders — the roads which serve one good purpose: Access to farms and rural estates.

These aren’t their personal fucking playgrounds and they have no one to blame but themselves when they get pancaked by heavy equipment meandering around the bend.

I hate them. These fags wouldn’t know a good day of exercise if they looked in my field just one second. Get out here with me and push 25 wheelbarrow loads of horse shit up a hill when it’s 95 degrees. THEN tell me cycling is “exercise”. What a joke! And my wife is encouraging my daughter to set up a refreshment stand for these anal ticklers!

Out of curiosity, is it illegal to string twine across said roads? 🙂

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
September 5, 2019 9:44 pm

When my wife and I “upgraded” to our second apartment, we sold one car and I rode my bike to work (about 2.5 miles). Some was on major roads and some on back roads. Either way I stayed as far right as possible, obeyed all the traffic laws, and was in the best shape of my life after doing that for a couple of years.

People act as though the ONLY reason anyone would ride a bike is for pleasure. Screw you! Auto insurance, car prices, etc. have gotten so out of hand that plenty of folks ride simply to save money, or that is all they can afford. And the exercise doesn’t hurt either.

And newsflash – THE FUCKING BIKE PATHS DON’T GO ANYWHERE USEFUL, SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANT TO RIDE ON THEM???

Don’t get me wrong. The hoards riding 3 -5 abreast in the traffic lanes are all pieces of shit. But riders obeying the law, staying to the right, riding single file, have as much right to be there as anyone else.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  MrLiberty
September 6, 2019 1:29 pm

If it’s for exercise, go to a gym. Plenty of cheap ones with cycles.

If it’s to train with Soy Boy Olympic Team, go to a gym. Plenty of cheap ones with cycles.

If it’s for business purposes, have at it. No one is going to use crazy country back roads as the most efficient mode of transportation to/from city life.

My main point is this. Team Soy Boy cyclists like nature but spent too much fucking money on houses to afford a cheaper house with some land. Not my problem. Or they are too pussy to move out of the clusterfuck city they live in to no longer need a cycle. Buuuut my wife’s faaaaaaamily lives here and doesn’t want to move. Again, not my problem. Or the best one, their “job” is not as movable. Well, who in the holy fuck forced you to major in Business Administration???

Exactly WHAT are these asshats going to do if we had any sort of economic crisis? You got it, come begging to the country rednecks they inconvenienced all of these years.

Ralballs
Ralballs
September 5, 2019 9:45 pm

Public highways are open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel. Language similar to this is found throughout state statutes throughout this land. But… you dummies believe you don’t have those rights, and you register your vehicles, and apply for licenses, and believe that you “have” to. Who says you have to? The “laws” for registration only apply to commercial vehicles. It’s monkey see, monkey do, by people who are generational , willful serfs. And if one of those serfs actually reads the statutes, and realizes he /she doesn’t need to register, and apply for a license, they are scorned by the masses of willful morons. I thought the people of the united States of America made the government and the laws? How many of us enjoy paying to register vehicles and paying license fees? I don’t. Lets all stop today! Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-dom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ralballs
September 6, 2019 6:11 pm

And when you show up on YouTube getting your punk ass thrown down chicken winged and cuffed after explaining how “special” you are to the Highway Patrol Officer… I’ll be laughing just as hard at you as all the rest of the “Sovereign Citizen” fucktards. If your “vehicle” can’t maintain the minimum speed as posted on the road you’re on…STAY THE FUCK OFF IT.

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Ralballs
September 6, 2019 8:53 pm

I think I knew I was different from other people when, as a teenager, I got pissed off by a local highway sign saying that bikes, pedestrians, and horses were Not Allowed.

SebastianX1/9
SebastianX1/9
September 5, 2019 10:04 pm

The unspoken issue is the mean-spirited smugness and virtue signalling of the cyclists. They imply at every turn that they are morally superior to drivers. Americans hate each other.
Many of these people are anti-car Green Agenda Zombies (GAZ).

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  SebastianX1/9
September 5, 2019 10:21 pm

For me it’s just the plain discourtesy of virtue signaling down a country road, which happens to be the ONLY means of transportation for my farming neighbors. I don’t even need to stoop so low as to mock their faux “Go Team Millennial!” wet suits or their PVC condom helms. All they’re doing is inconveniencing the people who actually feed them and who actually LIVE on these roads!

My God, I just want one to catch me on a bad day sometime. Old Man Strength is a damn waste if the Father won’t let me use it to benefit my neighbors!!!

Arthur Brogden
Arthur Brogden
  SebastianX1/9
September 6, 2019 6:13 pm

They’re worse than vegans when it comes to virtue signaling. ACTUAL signaling.. not so much.

piearesquared
piearesquared
September 5, 2019 11:48 pm

I do a lot of bicycle riding for various reasons, mainly because I enjoy it. It is very relaxing, gives me a “runner’s high”, and is good exercise. I don’t do a lot of riding just for the sake of riding, but whenever I need to run an errand or go somewhere for any reason I ride my bike if possible. However I agree that a lot of riders (the spandex-clad, pointy-helmet riders that ride racing bikes euphemistically called road bikes) seem to enjoy making car drivers mad. In fact they often admit as much in their comments on bicycling blogs. But don’t hold that against all bike riders. If you see someone riding a sensible bike and trying to stay out of the way of cars, don’t get mad at them because of what the spandex-clad riders do.

Miles Long
Miles Long
September 6, 2019 12:14 am

When the spandex clad needle-dicks are blocking traffic or just being obnoxious twats I usually downshift, lift throttle foot, coast past the offending sperm-burpers then nail the throttle so they get a good whiff of the catalytic converter being overtaxed. Not as effective as it was in the 80s, but still dumps some internal combustion goodness into the air for them to breathe.

toheckwithyou
toheckwithyou
  Miles Long
September 6, 2019 2:05 pm

Drive off the pavement a little first. Then they get a face full of gravel too.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 6, 2019 1:24 am

DiBlasio wants to license bicycles and bike riders.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/4/bill-de-blasio-eyes-licenses-bike-riders/

So much for freedom.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Anonymous
September 6, 2019 1:33 pm

Great. So NYers will bless us with their presence in the South as well. They elect these cretins and then export their Schwinns down here. Can we seriously just wall off everything E of the Appalachians and W of the Rockies???

22winmag - Repeal the 19th before November 2020
22winmag - Repeal the 19th before November 2020
September 6, 2019 3:51 am

Bicycles.

Brought to you by river-shitting Asian hordes and faggy Europeans who got soccer instead of baseball and football.

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Now, a word of caution. This author once broached the subject of removing or disconnecting your car’s airbags for various reasons such as “it should be legal to do so” or “it’s your right to do so.” While not advising everyone to do it, any loose talk about removing or failing to repair modern integrated airbags, seatbelts, tensioners, etc is not very bright.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
September 6, 2019 5:41 am

As soon as the weather gets warmer the bikes come out on the roads of NJ. The roads are already crowded, the inattentive and entitled idiot drivers are in a perpetual rush, and there’s typically little room on a road shoulder not made to accommodate bicycles. Why put yourself out in front of two tons of rolling steel and glass?
Because you can? If that’s true you trust drivers more than I do and you deserve what you get being on a bike surrounded by other entitled idiots in speeding metal.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 6, 2019 6:17 am

Many roads , highways and beltways have enough space to create a designated bike lane and a tax on bikes , tags and insurance for the construction and maintenance is well justified as will carrying ID and proof of insurance .
There is a vacation spot in my state that has well regulated bike and pedestrian crossings and lanes and the misuse or mistakes where the cyclist or pedestrian is injured or killed generally is not the operator of the motor vehicles fault . So share the road sure but share equal responsibility and accountability $$$$

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
September 6, 2019 8:49 am

Hmm. I like bicycles. Good exercise. Quiet. Cheap. Useful for relatively short distances in good weather. Here is the other side. Yes, those drivers resent sharing the roads with them for a number of reasons:
–Those roads were built for cars and motor vehicles, not bicycles. And they were largely paid for by gasoline taxes.
–People who ride bicycles on motorways are not a nuisance, they are a positive danger. Of course, they will be maimed or killed but the hapless drivers will bear (usually unjustified) guilt and likely lawsuits.
–The argument that trucks and RV’s obstruct the highway is ridiculous. They are part of normal motorway traffic flow.
–Many bike riders are extremely obnoxious old farts, with their silly plastic helmets and obscene bicycle shorts. To see some old coot or old hag furiously pumping their withered hams makes meeee……vomit.
–I am all for bikes – on bike paths. You like bikes? Great. Impose taxes to pay for safe bike paths. Problem solved.

Onnie
Onnie
  Southern Sage
September 6, 2019 1:03 pm

“And they were largely paid for by gasoline taxes.”

Dude, I own four cars and three motorcycles — and mostly I ride my bicycle to and from work, 7 miles each way, every day. You know why? Because the fucking roads are full of fucking cars and I can go faster — without blocking any cars — on my bicycle. And you know who’s helping pay for those roads? Me and my fucking car registration fees and my house taxes which I pay despite the fact I’ve paid off my fucking house.

God damn drivers of any form — motor vehicle OR bicycle OR motorcycle — who think they own the roads (“but … but … my gas taxes!” can go fuck themselves. I am ALL of those drivers, and the fact that some assholes on two wheels are just as annoying as assholes on four wheels is a pretty pussy argument against having bikes on roadways. If you’re an asshole on a bicycle probably the worst damage you’ll do is kill yourself — just yesterday some asshole in a car driving too goddamn fast came down a neighborhood street and took out a power pole, almost took out a neighbor’s front door.

I’ve been driving and BUILDING CARS for going on forty years, my late father was an aviation engineer who designed supersonic aircraft and also rode his goddamn bicycle to work in Los Angeles (!) back in the 60’s, he was ahead of the curve, and fucks like you can go fuck off.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Onnie
September 6, 2019 6:21 pm

Onnie, are you in Visalia?

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Hollywood Rob
September 6, 2019 8:25 pm

maggie you are a cunt.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Southern Sage
September 6, 2019 1:11 pm

SS, I have said for YEARS to my wife that cyclists represent liberals versus conservatives. Conservatives are busy working and producing if they are truly conservative. By that I mean Randian production…creating wealth by maintaining benevolent dominion over the planet to harvest resources responsibly, with an output/yield > input.

Cyclists represent liberals with way too much free time on their hands, and I have no patience for people who spend so much time doing frivolous shit in the middle of a Fourth Turning. Go work, create wealth, teach skills, engineer/architect something big.

Mind you I am not talking about Point A -> Point B folks. I’m talking about Team FedEx Delusionals. Every. Stinking. Day. In the middle of the day. Way too much free time to piss away on unproductive activity. Enjoy life and party some, yes. But hours and hours every day in the middle of nowhere? No!

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 6, 2019 9:16 am

Having done considerable cycling at a fairly high level, I would say we are far better off with people in cars than on bikes. Most folks don’t have the fitness nor the bike handling skills to manage themselves safely on the road. Among these is a cadre of retards that somehow ascend to moral superiority when they swing their leg over the top tube of a bicycle. A great number of cyclists are disgusting, stupid, fat fucks and pricks.

Bob McDoanld
Bob McDoanld
September 6, 2019 10:34 am

I am not opposed to bike just not on roads where motorized vehicles drive. If they are a valid form of transportation build paths for them where it has impact. To have them on the road with faster moving motorized vehicles is dangerous. And what is with them lining up 3-4 wide at a stop light while there is a line of vehicles behind them not to mention a blatent disregard for traffic laws. The two do not mix and this concept of dual usage is dangerous to bikers and no, bikes will not be replacing cars in the immediate future. More left wing craziness.

Saami Jim
Saami Jim
September 6, 2019 11:54 am

I have ridden a bike on the road for two reasons as an adult.
Once, about 20 years ago I rode daily to work, about 7 miles each way because I couldn’t afford a car for several months.
It was a crazy experience, almost got run over while on the gravel shoulder 6 feet off the paved road.
Now, we live in a very rural area, and I ride for exercise when my knee is giving me problems and I can’t do a 3 mile fast walk.
I ride 9 miles on hilly country roads with no shoulder, and make damn sure to get off the pavement and onto the grass when a car does not slow, or when a tractor is on the road.
I often encounter only one or two cars, the most I have ever seen is eight, so it works for me.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
September 6, 2019 11:55 am

Greetings,
For about 8 years as an adult the bicycle was my only form of transportation. The author is correct in that the bicycle still offers freedom that car drivers can only dream of. I still ride around on my bike if I’m going somewhere less that 5 miles.

I don’t see the problem with bicycles sharing the road as it is in my best interest to obey the traffic laws as I’m on a bicycle and not encased in an SUV.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
September 6, 2019 12:04 pm

I have been riding 2 wheeled vehicles for 50 years on public roads (motorbikes and bikes) and usually without incident…though over that half-century I have been hit 3 times (twice on the motorcycle and once on the bike) fucking illegal aliens in CA….and an ass hat yuppie. Shit happens. I have also had soda cans and oranges/apples flung at me on the backroads on the bike….not sure why and despite my best efforts to encourage the driver to stop for some caring confrontation they kept moving. Shit happens.

In CA the AGW specialize in issuing tickets to cyclists at stop signs…..put the foot down and full stop or pay the fine! Fucking revenue whore AGWs. Yes, I am a spandex-wearing, neon wearing, pointy helmet, wraparound shades road bike riding asstard! Guilty. I am also very conscious of traffic patterns and I am adept at riding the white line of the lane or if available the shoulder. Rumble strips are the ban of our existence as the divots are tough to ride over and are usually right where I want to position the bike forcing me either way off the shoulder to the right or inside the white line.

Most drivers are great, giving the bike a wide berth though occasionally you get a sideswiper who won’t give up an inch of the lane…I tend to flip them off, they never stop to review and discuss.

Cycling is great exercise and I seek out routes through steep canyons and passes, usually not so well-traveled and even if you park closer to the backroads usually there are some busier streets to travel across. Spare a thought or two for the cyclist out there, we are just trying to fulfill our own pursuit of happiness as defined by ourselves and most cyclists do everything they can to stay away from the vehicles (we aren’t going to win that!)……

Those West Coast city cycling Commies should, however, be snowplowed out of the road…they are not riding they are demonstrating…….and are just a wheeled version of ANTIFA.

I really like riding the country roads, seeing the farms/ranches the livestock and wildlife. There is enough room for all of us.

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  Martel's Hammer
September 6, 2019 2:41 pm

No, you seek out routes to view land that you were too fucking stupid to purchase and till when it was a good investment. Tough shit! No go back to biking in your Yankee HOA and leave us producers alone.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
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September 6, 2019 4:59 pm

Wow, you are an angry little “producer”…..maybe you missed the part where I own a ranch in MT…..with lots of hay produced and wildlife etc……no cattle (now you can call me all hat!) since I like to travel. Yankee HOA? Again wrong…..I was born in the South and had relatives that owned slaves and some that didn’t and they all fought for the Stars and Bars….So have a nice steaming mug of STFU and look in the mirror…..that’s your problem not me or the other folks enjoying a nice ride.

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  Martel's Hammer
September 6, 2019 5:08 pm

WTF does owning slaves or not have ANYTHING to do with this conversation??? What, were you planning to march a black rainbow troop down your street while you led them from your bicycle-equivalent of a Red Rider???

My problem is douchebags like you who are human versions of seagulls. You fly in, shit all over the place, and fly off before we can give you a big Alka Selzer.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
September 6, 2019 12:40 pm

Why would any of you care about bicycles? You never ever run into them on the road and if by some chance you do they are almost always lone riders staying to the right, out of traffic. It isn’t the bicyclists who are clogging up your roads. It is the 80 year old wyman driving to the optometrist for a new set of coke bottles that is your real problem. she is the one wandering from lane to lane at 15 miles an hour. She is the one who has forgotten where she was driving to and then slams on the brakes in the middle of the road when she realizes that her turn was 50 meters back.

You have to admit that you almost never find yourself held up by a cyclist, but you sit behind that old woman just about every day. And if you live in bum fuck PA or NJ or upstate NY, then you get to sit behind some 80 year old farmer driving his tractor down the two lane road at 5 mph with a load of shit dripping onto the road surface.

Forest for the trees folks, forest for the trees.

PAULA
PAULA
  Hollywood Rob
September 6, 2019 12:54 pm

How is that, Hoss?

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  PAULA
September 6, 2019 6:23 pm

You were exactly the 80 year old wyman that I was referring to.

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  Hollywood Rob
September 6, 2019 1:01 pm

You haven’t stepped foot out of CA to see what they’re doing to the South if you say this. If you saw my country road you would understand. No shoulder, up and down a hollow that is nothing but farmland and a couple of estates, some with sheer dropoffs.

So what do these granola eating turdburglars do? They fuck up their states (#1 and #2 inflow to my state is from IL and CA), buy up 850k homes in HOA neighborhoods on former dairy farms (that should NEVER have been approved), and think that because they’re land-poor they can inconvenience everyone else.

Every waking day these miscreants are slogging up and down this pastoral road, in the middle of the day. Do they work? Guess not! Then how are they affording the million dollar homes on .00001 acres? Beats me!

I am firmly of the opinion that CA needs to be walled off from the rest of the country. They are locusts destroying everything in their paths.

Those 80 year farmers happen to feed you, BTW. CA would starve to death without the Midwest and the South and those farmers on their tractors, likely half of whom live on my road. If you want to cycle and protect Delta Smelts, go for it! But you start migrating your weird views looking like Coneheads in the South, then don’t be surprised when we boycott you all in the near future.

Miles Long
Miles Long
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September 6, 2019 1:55 pm

Heh… makes me think of the last 2 minutes of Easy Rider except with bicyclers.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
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September 6, 2019 2:20 pm

Sounds like your jealous of the folks successful enough to go cycling in the middle of the day…..most are probably retired and the rest may work remotely? I guess that raises the question…why are you such a loser that you are around during the day to observe the cyclists? Consider yourself covered in digital shit from a shit throwing digital monkey!

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
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September 6, 2019 2:22 pm

Sounds like your jealous of the folks successful enough to go cycling in the middle of the day…..most are probably retired and the rest may work remotely? I guess that raises the question…why are you such a loser that you are around during the day to observe the cyclists? Consider yourself covered in digital shit from a shit throwing digital monkey!

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  Martel's Hammer
September 6, 2019 2:37 pm

Calling you retarded would be an insult to good handicapped people everywhere, tough guy! I was smart enough to major in engineering and through hard work and ingenuity WFH. I EARNED it. ADDITIONALLY, numbnuts, I am building a farm.

But I’m sure 16 hour workdays are an anathema to you 100lb. tree huggers. Drive by anytime though, please!!! It’d be a treat for one of us!

P.S.: It’s “you’re”, not “your”, you publicly educated stain in your banana suit.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
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September 6, 2019 5:05 pm

LOL….you are still wiping off the monkey shit and spitting it out,….building a farm…well good for you. Really hard work and the return is certainly not measured in money. 100lb Tree Hugger? If you want to LARP as Triumph the Insult Dog your act needs some work…..keep trying!

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  Martel's Hammer
September 6, 2019 5:15 pm

I’m well aware you’re not even close to 100lbs…I apologize if that was too much /sarc for you.

Thanks for playing, this was a good way to end the very long week! Felt good.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
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September 6, 2019 6:29 pm
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  Hollywood Rob
September 6, 2019 6:36 pm

Man, it sure would be a shame if there was ever a water battle between the states…don’t you guys need to, like, ration everything? Well, except the rats and typhus. I mean it’d be a REAL pity if we ever had a crisis and Colorado or Nevada told CA to piss up a rope! Egads.

Maybe you can move in with your TBP friends?

https://weather.com/news/news/2018-08-16-lake-mead-reservoir-concerns

It’s all good there, Hogan. Hold down the fort while everyone else flees! We’ll be there for you in spirit while you battle EC and Maggie to the bitter end! 🙂

https://www.redfin.com/blog/movement-out-of-california-driver-of-u-s-migration

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September 6, 2019 5:09 pm

Team Reacharound on the right, Real Man on the left.
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Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
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September 6, 2019 5:43 pm

Yep, it takes all types! BTW Old Putty-Put is 5’7″ shrimp toast and Barry the Not So Fearless but certainly feckless is Somalia level “skinny”….as you would expect of a Kenyan! Hey while I was out cycling by your place I did have a chance to talk a pic for your relatives and they gave me a copy! Have a good weekend and be kind!

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  Martel's Hammer
September 6, 2019 5:56 pm

Putin may be 5′ nothing, but he’s a black belt. Royce Gracie was 165 and dominated. That’s the beauty of discipline and training. Gracie would destroy guys 80 solid lbs. (Kimo) bigger than him because he knew how to fight. He wasn’t a dude sitting on 100 firearms and 100k rounds of ammo with absolutely nothing to defend and nothing anyone wanted in the middle of a sphincter.

I love the family photo, I’ll let them know you got a good one. That’s me in the jean shorts, you rotund Redoubter (but I repeat myself). As you can see, though, what with the coming GSM and all: At least we cin hunt, fish, and grow fud. Pity the Billings folks!!! You may be settling for grass-fed…humans? Jeebus, Oregon Trail redux?

May God bless you prodigiously!
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Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
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September 6, 2019 9:00 pm

Bonus: the horse is renewable… the bike not so much.

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
September 6, 2019 8:12 pm

Hmmm,
I drive a car. I don’t like cyclists who hog the road. I accept those who are off to the side and ride their bike respectfully and not as a virtue signal. Most of them wear Lycra (yuck). Most of them ride the bikes OK but the notable few that don’t tend to cause lots of drivers to despise the lot.
I also ride a bike, for exercise, outdoors in the clean fresh country mountain air. Once or twice a week (twice if I am lucky). I never wear Lycra. I stay far to the side and even pull off the road sometimes to allow cars to more easily pass. I wave most of the time to the cars coming towards me (about half or a little more wave back).