Unraveling Impeachment

Guest Post by The Zman

In the days after the election, when the Left was howling about Russian collusion, it was clear they were hiding something. The theory they were pitching was so ridiculous, it had to be about something else. The mendacious mediocrities in mass media could be convinced it was real, but that’s their job. Normal people always knew the claims were absurd. We later learned that the Russian hoax was part of an effort to conceal the seditious plot by the intelligence community.

The Russian collusion hoax is a good place to start when trying to unravel the latest impeachment panic. That caper was about getting a special prosecutor named before Team Trump could figure out what was happening. Mueller, the horse-faced flunky, would provide cover, while greasy operatives on his staff would hoover up anything related to the FBI caper. The whole affair would be sequestered while they figured out how to get rid of Trump and anyone too curious about what happened.

Put another way, the point of the caper was never really about Trump. He was just a useful pivot point in order to address a different issue. They were much more concerned about people like Devon Nunes, who were doggedly pursuing the case. The special prosecutor was a way to end-run Congress and pests like Nunes, so the whole thing could be hidden from public view. If not for a few Congressional Republicans, there would never have been a need for the Russian collusion hoax.

It’s pretty clear that this new gambit is being run by many of the same people who were involved in the original caper. It has the same signature. There is a fake whistle blower, who was purpose built for the task. His claims were systematically leaked to the media, so the Democrats could pretend to be outraged and demand an investigation. The media was ready for a full onslaught of impeachment stories. Like the Russian collusion hoax, this one is highly coordinated with the press.

If the last impeachment hoax was about covering up the FBI spying and seditious plot to overturn the election, the question is what are they trying to cover for now? The original investigation of the FBI seems to be heading in some strange directions after Barr took over the case. Reportedly he is on official business in Italy. That has the Democrats going bonkers, as it suggests he is looking into the CIA role in the Russian collusion hoax. They seem very worried about Bill Barr all of a sudden.

The thing that has been ignored that probably is important is that Pelosi was trying to put an end to the impeachment stuff until recent. When she went to meet with her caucus over this whistle blower stuff, the pundits assumed she was going to squash the whole thing. Instead, she came out of those meetings fully on board with not only impeachment, but fast tracking it. Maybe her caucus was in revolt and she felt she had no choice or maybe she learned something and felt she had no choice.

Regardless of the internal dynamics of the party, this latest impeachment frenzy seems to be related to what Barr has been up to lately. This post at Conservative Tree-house goes into a lot of detail, but what stands out is the Mifsud item. It was his involvement with Papadopoulos that allegedly set off the FBI probe. If he is actually a CIA asset used as part of the larger plot, then that changes things considerably. It now brings the CIA into the mix as co-conspirators in the seditious plot to overturn the election.

That could be why the CIA had one of their people work with the Democrats to create the whistle blower story. They are worried that they are now in some jeopardy. Their concern may be that they have been secretly listening to Trump’s official calls with foreign leaders. Notice that the Democrats are now claiming the transcript the White House provided is a forgery. They could only think that if they were told there is stuff missing from the transcript, by someone who saw the original.

In other words, the first impeachment hoax was about covering up the FBI plot to overturn the 2016 election. This latest impeachment hoax is about muddying the waters in order to conceal CIA involvement. The hope is the Democrats and the media can someone gain jurisdiction over the whole thing and prevent public disclosures that will be very bad for the CIA. The FBI spying on politicians is bad, but the CIA working for foreign countries to spy on politicians would be devastating.

The thing that does not make a lot of sense is that the Congress cannot take over an investigation like a special prosecutor. Perhaps that’s what the game is here. They will dirty up Barr while claiming to investigate this latest hoax, then demand another special prosecutor. That would explain why they are in such a rush to get started. As we saw with the first hoax, this one may not be about Trump at all. It may be about taking out someone who is asking the wrong questions about the right people.

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JLW
JLW
September 29, 2019 3:28 pm

Somebody is up somebody’s a#s, that is for sure. Unfortunately, that is about all we know. The rest is a guess. I am really hoping for a ‘white’ swan on this one and a bunch of the usual scum that have plagued us for 30 years go to jail or worse.
No one with an IQ over 70 believes there is any rule of law in this country left. This is part of the Fourth Turning crisis. If people like the ones on this site don’t win, it will be very ugly and very bad.

EC
EC
  JLW
September 29, 2019 4:04 pm

What part of checks and balances don’t you understand?

M G
M G
  EC
September 29, 2019 4:47 pm

You have got to mean “checkbooks and bank balances” because that is the only interpretation which counts in DC.

credit
credit
  EC
September 29, 2019 6:56 pm

and the award for most naive motherfucker goes to ……. EC! (clap. clap)

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  EC
September 29, 2019 8:01 pm

Who checks and balances the official checkers and balancers? Whoever they were, they fuqued up or went to the Dark Side.

Uncola
Uncola
September 29, 2019 5:58 pm

On 9-24-19, I wrote in a comment here how “projection” is the modus operandi of Dems, which, really, is no surprise because it is a Saul Alinsky tactic after all. In the same comment, I linked an Apollo Robbins pick-pocketing video along with this:

One also wonders if these new Ukraine allegations against Trump are just another scene of the ongoing reality television series?

Because, what’s really going on behind the scenes, ya know?

….it is likely all about the art of misdirection:

Three days later, James Howard Kunstler wrote an article and mentioned how the Ukraine/Impeachment gambit was an attempt to discredit Attorney General William Barr. In the commentary of that article, I wrote the following:

As I read the PDF file of the whistleblower’s complaint the day it was released, JHK’s above observations are what jumped out to me as well. The complaint was very carefully crafted with, what seemed to me, very specific legal objectives in mind. Obviously, the complaint itself is evidence of collusion and, in fact, meets the threshold for the text-book definition of “conspiracy”.

The day after that, we saw the following on Zero Hedge:

In the months leading up to a CIA whistleblower’s hearsay complaint about President Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the US intelligence community quietly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers must provide first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings…

….Then, on September 24 – days before the anti-Trump complaint was declassified and released to the public – a new version of the whistleblower complaint form revised in August, 2019 – the Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form – was uploaded and used by the CIA employee to file the complaint.

And while the public just learned about this a week ago, the whistleblower letter to House and Senate Intelligence Committee chairs Adam Schiff (D-CA) and Richard Burr (R-NC) was dated August 12, the same month the form was updated.

All this, while knowing well in advance (thanks to Sundance at Conservative Treehouse), of Nancy Pelosi’s January 2019 strategic new rules for the 116th Congress whereby (according to Sundance) she created “her own mini DOJ inside the legislative branch“.

No wonder Peggy Noonan of the Wall Street Journal wrote that the “Democrats Set A Bear Trap”. Because it sure seems that way; just not in the way Dear Peggy cares to fully disclose.

Talk about conspiracies and election hacking! Because, obviously, all is NOT well in the world’s newest banana republic.

Z-man writes above:

… the first impeachment hoax was about covering up the FBI plot to overturn the 2016 election. This latest impeachment hoax is about muddying the waters in order to conceal CIA involvement. The hope is the Democrats and the media can someone gain jurisdiction over the whole thing and prevent public disclosures that will be very bad for the CIA. The FBI spying on politicians is bad, but the CIA working for foreign countries to spy on politicians would be devastating.

Yes, indeed. That may be the whole deal right there; especially, given the timing and momentum of events.

Is Team Trump about to go on offense? I mean, take the initiative for real this time? Or do you suppose the president will just tweet away while the nation burns?

No matter what: Don’t you dare touch that dial! Stay tuned. They’ll be right back after this commercial break and a word from their sponsors.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Uncola
September 29, 2019 8:43 pm

I still have this feeling this was an attempt to run a coup on the Executive regardless of who won. With everyone believing HC would win it appears they were prepping to blackmail her to figurehead status. When polling, that is real polling showed Trump threatening they dusted off this Fusion GPS/Crowdstrike collusion thing they had used at least once before simply replacing John McCain with Donald Trump. It is claimed the dossier is virtually word for word the same one used against McCain in ’07-’08. I heard someone saying this was the third use of this very document against Republican candidates. Only the names were changed at each election. Why not ? The Republican, no matter who it is always winds up depicted as a racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamaphobe, climate denier on and on, who is hoping to turn everything over to “Billionaires.” It’s not like they need a new document to make the same bullshit claims every two to four years.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Harrington Richardson
September 29, 2019 8:56 pm

where did you hear about it being the 3rd time?
mccain,saint romney?,jeb ?,trump–

John Galt
John Galt
  Uncola
September 30, 2019 7:36 am

They are goading trump to blow his wad now so he has nothing to release near the election because we fucking retarded sheep in citizenland forget everything a week later and believe what cnn tells us to…..

Dave Windsor
Dave Windsor
September 29, 2019 6:00 pm

Not nice are they.

Bob The Retard
Bob The Retard
September 29, 2019 6:42 pm

Read a great post earlier today re: Trump Impeachment and why it’s currently being ramped to the max. The author pointed out that RBG is now being given pancreatic stents. These are not for curative value but for palliative care. In short, she’s gone in 6 months which gives Trump another SCOTUS pick which gives the Court a rock solid 5 to 4 lock even when that cuck Roberts takes a dump on Constitutionalists. Look for the left to go ballistic.

May you live in interesting times.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Bob The Retard
September 29, 2019 8:08 pm

let’s hope you’re correct about rbg–

Festering Boil
Festering Boil
  TampaRed
September 30, 2019 3:12 am

I want her gone and gone now. I will smile, relax and maybe have a beer to celebrate her demise to hell. She is a total wench and scumbag who never had any business being on the supreme Court except for Clinton corruption. I hope she gets roasted like a pig in nuclear forever 😉

credit
credit
September 29, 2019 7:08 pm

Joseph Mifsud may have just had a severe drop in in life expectancy.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  credit
September 29, 2019 8:10 pm

i saw somewhere(tbp ?)that barr is in italy on official business,which is where mifsud is–
mifsud also allegedly left a complete recording of all that transpired & who the players are b4 he went into hiding–

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  credit
September 29, 2019 8:46 pm

Yep. Trumps’ two or three private emissaries have uncovered way more than official channels got.

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
  Harrington Richardson
September 30, 2019 7:59 am

It would seem that way because the FBI and CIA have been politically compromised. The fact MI5/MI6 was involved with the Russian collusion story from the start isn’t coincidence.

Festering Boil
Festering Boil
  credit
September 30, 2019 3:16 am

We can only hope….. Accordingly, he is a total scumbag and should reap his reward. Barr may be putting out a contract on him since I think he works for the deep state at this point until proven otherwise… How quickly we forget about Epstien’s murder and who was in charge at DOJ when that happened lol…..

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
September 29, 2019 8:10 pm

So I have a simple question: Does anyone honestly believe that Trump can take on the entire system itself, all from within the system? If so, how does he do it and why do you believe it’s feasible?

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Articles of Confederation
September 29, 2019 8:54 pm

We’re all out here picking away at the BS from the MSM and Dhimmicrats. The more we can reach the better. Spread the word. It’s what we can do for now. Let him know he isn’t alone. From the donations coming in and the size of the rally crowds I think he can take encouragement.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Harrington Richardson
September 29, 2019 10:26 pm

Understood, I’m not trying to dismantle people one way or the other. I just really want to know: If one believes Trump can drain the swamp from within the system that created the swamp, then how does he do it?

Admittedly, I don’t think it’s remotely possible, which I believe is why Thrasymachus reasoned that all forms of government devolve into despotism. I will continue to support Trump if for no other reason than the alternative is full-blown, immediate Marxism. But at what point do his supporters acknowledge that there’s only one real way out of this, no matter how dangerous a dice roll with a Caesar is?

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Articles of Confederation
September 29, 2019 11:17 pm

trump ought to invite citizens to send in suggestions on how best to balance the budget and how to trim welfare & it’s associated benes–
he should post them by topic on the white house website & ask people to rate the suggestions–
he could slowly build support 4 reforming spending & welfare–

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  TampaRed
September 29, 2019 11:57 pm

It’s not a matter of reform anymore — not in the the present-day sense of the word. It’s a matter of eliminating entire government agencies now, of immediately kicking out judges and legislators who have overstayed their welcome, of expeditiously trying and convicting looters, pedophiles, traitors, etc.

I’m so done with the talk about all of this because I know it will never happen without a crash and burn. The only option for the average citizen that’s peaceful and effective is to go Galt. With what I make today, it’s an extremely non-trivial amount of revenue I am eliminating from the system over the next 3 years. It won’t be easy, but I can’t look at my children in their faces and tell them later in life, “Well, I voted for the lesser of two evils! I did my part!”

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 12:02 am

trump has attempted to completely reorganize agencies but has been stymied by civil service work rules,embedded idealogues in the bureaucracy,and congress–
i’d love to go galt myself but it’ll never happen,my wife’s idea of prepping is a few jugs of water b4 the hurricane–

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  TampaRed
September 30, 2019 12:11 am

Because he is working within the system that created this mess. Which gets back to my rhetorical question. The answer to that question, however unpalatable, is where America is headed.

Going Galt is not easy. It’s a damn nightmare. I’m doing it gradually…it’s much less painful for me but it’s not easy for the family. Yet it’s also liberating to be growing some amazingly tasty food that could provide for an entire community.

Doing what is just and right is never easy.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 1:40 am

This entire Ukraine/Impeachment show reeks of psyops. Drudge has gone full metal jacket with hyperbole and red letters and be afraid and turmoil and freak out and run around screaming and….and….aren’t we afraid and confused? Aren’t we thrown off course? That’s part and parcel of the plan here..

How to Destroy a Society:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/19/how-destroy-society/

Festering Boil
Festering Boil
  Mygirl...maybe
September 30, 2019 3:22 am

Drudge is part of the Tribe and hence, part of the misdirection. You would do yourself a favor and all of us a favor by staying completely off his site like I have since he was in on tirning the election against Judge Moore….. Breitbart was derived from the same tribal ilk and is no better. Permanently off their site as well. The less hits the less potential advertising revenue and the less power.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 1:49 am

Going Galt is also a state of mind. Going Galt is withdrawing support. Not accepting the status quo, not supporting the corrupt system, not being fooled by the propaganda, not watching the propaganda media and not buying into the lies. The New York Times is now full-blown progressive psyops, ditto all the television and most other media. It becomes harder to find the truth amid all the lies but someone who has gone Galt knows that when there is a major push for some action or ideology, therein lie the lies.
Going Galt also means doing the least amount of work to get by, avoidance of anything that helps the corrupt system. Essentially Galt let the system collapse under it’s own weight and he hastened that process by not doing those things that bolster a corrupt system like making extra money that the state could take in taxes.

John Galt
John Galt
  TampaRed
September 30, 2019 7:44 am

Tampa, most of the wives of people on here prefer to live in denial, ignorance is bliss. Mine says i am crazy and even if this did all happen she says take me out to the lake and blow me up because she cannot live without amazon or toilet paper..at least she was truthful and blunt. Many people today play willfully ignorant because otherwise they may have to face reality. Worst case is if the acknowledge it and do no prepping today as the patriarchal figure they will be blamed when it does happen. Playing stupid gives them an out. And the added benefit of still being able to watch NFL Mondays. Being a willful sheep today provides them an out. These are the worst types and should also be considered enemies when the time comes….these are not men…..

Prusmc
Prusmc
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 4:35 pm

Who is our Ceasar or our Franco?

WayfaringStrang3r
WayfaringStrang3r
September 29, 2019 8:15 pm

Good points, all of them. But I wonder if “we” shouldn’t be widening our scope beyond the US right now. I agree fully that this house of cards has been built over a period of time and was waiting for the right moment. Nothing else could be true, first because of the complexity, the number of people who would have to be fully on board and playing their part. Then the housekeeping issues of changing the House rules to exclude the minority (Republicans) from the first steps of the impeachment process, leaving that power in the hands of the committees and Democrats. Previously a vote of the full House was needed – Pelosi changed those procedural rules in recent months. And of course, the change allowing whistleblowers to give hearsay evidence. There’s only one reason all of those people would work collectively to do those things, and that is to ease the impeachment of Trump. I was a teen during Watergate, absolutely NONE of this kind of fuckery was needed then. Sufficient laws were in place to impeach a president who met the legal standards. if the public were better informed they could see easily that w/o question the resent behaviors are only needed when evidence is not there, and you want to create it from the raw materials you do have. So yes, they have been readying for months, but the Why Now thing…lots of people do see even with a complicit media that the Dems are playing a risky game, there must be some really really high stake, maybe at the global level. Trump gave that anti-globalist speech at the UN, if you haven’t seen it all I recommend it. He fully threw himself behind anti-globalists and nation-state ideas. This is a huge unequivocal endorsement of the directions being taken by Poland, Italy (where Barr is now), Brexiteers. Under Trump now, the full might of the US on the global state is protecting the sovereignty and uniqueness of all existing nations-states. No open borders, not putting all the cultures in a blender and making everyone the same kind of generalized human drone. France would be France, Germany is Germany the Congo is the Congo. There would be a reason to visit Jamaica because it would not be like every place else. You get the idea. Trump came out on the UN stage for local national rule, not global corporate rule. Also that craps on the shift away from traditional national standing armies to mass surveillance of all citizens everywhere. Which seems to be a goal. The forced mixing of un-matched ethnicities creates conflict, no shit. That “conflict” then obviates the “need” for censorship, pre-crime enforcement and total surveillance. Because anyone anywhere could be a “terrorist” in the borderless soup of cultures run by technocrats. I suspect there are many wel–meaning people who see that kind of global structure as “peace”. The only way to stop wars, whether cultural or over resources. Technocrats distribute resources, and justice over all. Conflict stays at the level of individuals and small group skirmishes, from misfits who are guilty of not fitting in, and not appreciating the benevolent order. Maybe some people really feel this is the only way to deal with the enormously destructive technologies our various militaries and scientists have created. So those people who understand the destructiveness would be then motivated to go along, for that Better Tomorrow. Perhaps the Democrats are going out on this limb because of pressure from behind I DO NOT MEAN JEWS. Any kind of person can buy into globalist ideology. Pampered white confirmed Lutheran kids raised in cul-de-sac McMansions do. People you will see at your own Thanksgivings probably do.
No one who has ever really looked at a Human being would beleive this Utopian horseshit will would out to any kind of good end. Technology will not make a difference this time, it will make it worse. As stated previously, this is a lot of moving parts and a shit-ton of the parts in this machine are human. It’s understandable that none of those humans will rush to end up tossed into some mass grave with the rotting corpse of Jeffery Epstein, but at some point though, you’d think someone who has Seen Something, would Say Something. Epstein himself left a huge trail evidence of his activities, many people agreed to look the other way. This is probably way more than just pissy Democrats being pissy, but is global in scope, and therefore riddled with a global amount of vulnerabilities. But those vulnerabilities are really only the individuals in the CIA, NSA, FBI, military, corporations, big tech and media who may reach some kind of personal points where they refuse to go along anymore. They don’t have to do anything dramatic, no guns, bloodshed, just stop doing what they’re doing in service to the program.
And that I believe was the core of Trump’s UN speech. He looked out into the assembly and said “hey guys, let’s not do this”. And if the responding thoughts in the heads of the listeners is “yeah, I never really wanted to anyway”, then the globalists are fucked.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  WayfaringStrang3r
September 29, 2019 8:30 pm

wayfarer,
good post–
just so you know,italy has gotten rid of salvini(sp ?) and is sliding back into the abyss–

Uncola
Uncola
  WayfaringStrang3r
September 29, 2019 9:32 pm

Well, first of all Strang3r, let me say I enjoyed your comment.

Secondly, I have some additional input regarding your statement as follows:

Any kind of person can buy into globalist ideology

This is, indeed, true. To these people, unity is obtained through diversity. Assimilation. And that’s the rub. It is not ideological diversity they seek, but, rather, conformity of thought; even to the point to where melanin and genitalia supercede diverse ideas.

Like those seeking salvation through tiny houses and smart cars, the Unity via Diversity crowd are self-justified by their virtue signaling. It really is like a religion. A new religion that makes national borders parochial and out of fashion.

Over the weekend I had breakfast with some of these folks. When they said the deep state was a conspiracy theory, I destroyed them quite handily.

But here is the difference between propaganda and conspiracy: Most people don’t want to believe in conspiracy.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Uncola
September 29, 2019 10:56 pm

I respect your desire to try and reach some bands of your Inner Circle, but I gave up on that plan when 1) My life was OBE, and 2) The endothermic nature of the process was more than I could continue to bear.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Uncola
September 30, 2019 8:33 am

I was going to highlight the same, including the next sentence:

“Any kind of person can buy into globalist ideology. Pampered white confirmed Lutheran kids raised in cul-de-sac McMansions do”
.
I began an email exchange (tried a personal visit but he wasn’t there) with the local Lutheran Pastor this past wk to request that I be removed from the membership rolls….and my ‘family’ has been Lutheran (on maternal side) for at least 150 yrs….going back to when they lived in the “vaterland”.

There are basically two different sects; the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (which, the last I checked, was second only to the Catholic Church for rec’ing gov. money to house/relocate immigrants) and the Lutheran church-Missouri synod. The latter of which is the one I am dealing with.

I have learned, initially, that the new preacher (according to Missouri synod) is promoting/teaching ‘doctrine’ that places the immigrant question DIRECTLY IN LINE with the Jesuit Pope Jorge Bergoglio. In addition, one of the elders (a pallbearer for my dad twenty yrs. ago) is a twice elected commissioner on the city board, and the commission hired in a Hispanic city manager about three yrs ago.

For almost a year, my wife and I have ‘endured’ the intrusion into our home of music loudly played every weekend. Yesterday, we called the popo to have an officer come by and see if this was something we will have to deal with. Two units pulled up almost exactly half way in between the approx. 500 ft distance to the carnival music. They sat in their cars-parked directly across the st. from each other, one facing north. the other south. After about 5 min. (the music volume was turned lower, but still clearly heard from our porch), they exited their units and walked to our house. As they approached thru the yard, I said “hearing any music” , to which the skin-head/tatted senior officer (his accompanied back up was Hispanic)replied…”yeah, faintly”.

To end this comment, as I led the coppers down a conversational path, I learned they are clearly pro illegal. I told them if I didn’t have torn ligs/broke ankle, I would have simply walked down and asked them to reduce the volume myself….and insisted they better not write the people a ticket or warning….as I would find out and be sitting in the city managers office immediately there after…

Just a FWIW….

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——–==

The popo are WITHOUT QUESTION patterned to seeing themselves as heroes (we had gone down a path of conversation wherein I learned they both truly believe that "diversity is our strength)

EC
EC
  ordo ab chao
September 30, 2019 9:50 am

That’s an interesting story but I wonder how you got injured?

TampaRed
TampaRed
  EC
September 30, 2019 9:54 am

running from the cops–

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  TampaRed
September 30, 2019 10:31 am

Tampa-

haha…I might have been able to give the large skinhead a run for his money. The younger looked like he could set pace with Speedy G.

EC-

I trim back my mulberry trees every two yrs. They grow fast, and since an ice storm in ’98 that took down both neighbors electric lines, I have done so. I simply ‘hopped’ backwards out of the lowest fork (about 7′), and landed on a root. I access the tree with a little 6′ alum. stepladder, and it had fallen over. I’ve always been a climber, so that’s how I do the upper branches. Stupid, but I’ve done it countless times before….I think gravity is getting stronger

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——==

EC
EC
  ordo ab chao
September 30, 2019 11:10 am

I had a guy trim my tree after I heard about HF’s accident. It cost $300 but the guy earned it. I was not going to climb a ladder that is leaning against a tree. One guy fell and broke his arm. He had a blood clot from the fracture and it killed him the day after his accident.

EC
EC
  EC
September 30, 2019 12:17 pm

Uh, I meant a guy that I knew of, not a guy working on my tree. Sorry for the poor writing.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  EC
September 30, 2019 8:34 pm

guy around the corner has a tree service–
there’s a rope they use to tie off part of the chipper when it’s being towed-
one day a guy a guy forgot to tie it off while they were chipping & it got sucked into the chipper after it had wrapped around a guy’s head–
he was decapitated–
there’s a reason tree guys have trouble getting insurance–

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  WayfaringStrang3r
September 29, 2019 10:41 pm

Again, how can he make a difference from working within the system? We need unilateral shutdown of the CIA, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. Period, end of statement. Any ostensible benefits it may afford us are far outweighed by the evil on display. Return diplomacy and espionage to the State Department. He can’t do that.

We need term limits RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW on judges AND legislators.

We need enforcement of 100+ year old antitrust laws RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW on multinational pharmaceuticals, hospital corporations, and group practices.

We need reconciliation of outstanding student loans that doesn’t completely forgive the foolish borrowers, but also doesn’t completely forgive the foolish lenders. We can’t just carte blance dismiss them and create a black hole in capital, yet we can’t indenture humans in the 21st century with no means of BK. RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.

Absolutely none of the above can wait for anything short of an immediate invocation of Article V (never gonna happen), or full-blown suspension of what’s left of the Constitution in order to get shit done.

That may sound like blasphemy to both sides of the aisle, but they have done NOTHING but fuck this country in its ass, ears, nostrils, mouth, and every other bodily orifice. The budget has gone for shit under Trump, not a single perp has been lamp-posted, and all I hear is a lot of ra-ra.

Enough! Are voters going to continue to trust some fucking 8chan plan (alt-right) or Marxist rabble rousers (Regressives)? If so, kiss your children good night and keep lying to them that they can accomplish anything they set their minds to…because you are STEALING it from them.

John Galt
John Galt
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 8:03 am

One of the greatest spot on rants in all of tbp history…..well done aoc. Well done

M G
M G
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 8:13 am

Exactly. Just STOP the nonsense.

But, our ineffectual elected congresscritters have to meet and discuss and plot.

They should be dismissed as worthless.

flash
flash
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 9:00 am

You want these leaders of these states to preside over a Constitutional Convention…what could possibly go wrong ? ha ha ha good one.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mayrarodriguezvalladares/2019/09/24/forty-states-in-the-u-s-do-not-have-enough-money-to-pay-their-bills/#1b9e504d7bff

BL
BL
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 11:57 am

Articles- Now do you really think the pirate class/masonic/mafias would let the CIA be shut down?? Don’t hold your breath for that one, that is their life’s blood on SO MANY LEVELS.

Good post.

M G
M G
  WayfaringStrang3r
September 30, 2019 8:09 am

Awesome rant!

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
September 29, 2019 9:09 pm

When I look at how they ( Congress and the White House) are behaving all I see are people following orders being handed down. That includes both Trump and Pelosi. It does not appear that any of our elected officials are actually in control of the government.

Someone is, but it’s not them.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Hardscrabble Farmer
September 29, 2019 10:52 pm

Agree. It’s a poorly (to me) orchestrated shit sandwich that SHOULD be obvious.

EC
EC
  Hardscrabble Farmer
September 29, 2019 11:00 pm

If it wasn’t for the drama, I don’t know what they would do. They don’t legislate, they aggravate. All I know about Trump (as a regular observer) is that he fights a lot with a lot of people. His administration is WWE gone political. We now have European style politics playing out in the capital. We shall know how far we have fallen when the discourse comes down to who is a poopy head and who is not.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  EC
September 30, 2019 12:06 am

None of this is as entertaining as wrestling, which used to be quite enjoyable when I watched it.

I just want to know what, specifically, the average Trump voter expects to be accomplished between now and Election Day 2020, and what will be accomplished afterwards?

I want timelines and specifics. For instance, by Q1 2021, Trump will have indicted Epstein’s accomplices. By Q2 2021, Trump will have pulled us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, and Japan. Etc. etc. Anything less that big ticket items is just total bullshit, because his supporters are living in the same concrete box of constraints that he is.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 12:13 am

nothing major will happen–
here’s some wrestling,if i had time i’d dig up the crusher 4 you–
turning in–

James the Deplorable Wanderer
James the Deplorable Wanderer
  Articles of Confederation
September 30, 2019 9:02 pm

Timelines? Specifics? When we know so little?
HOW MANY traitors, deadwood bureaucrats and other trash infest our government NOW? If you cannot provide a number, how do we set the specific “reduce government payrolls by XXX by June 1”?
HOW LONG will it take to root out all traitors there now? When you have civil service rules to follow / ignore, real treason trials for the truly culpable, and foreign agents, registered or not?
WHO is an average Trump voter? A guy on welfare in WI because his automobile parts job washed out? A retired veteran in Texas pushing druggies off his lawn every morning? A lady realtor trying to make a life off smaller and fewer commissions?
Your request is too vague to begin to comply with. And I find your “big ticket items” low on my priority list: my #1 is executing as many traitors in D.C. as possible before July, and the rest shortly after.

M G
M G
  EC
September 30, 2019 8:14 am

You are obviously a poopy head.

I am not.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  M G
September 30, 2019 8:43 am

?

M G
M G
  TampaRed
September 30, 2019 8:59 am

There is a complete breakdown of rational thought in our politicos. There is no other explanation.

BL
BL
  M G
September 30, 2019 12:23 pm

Geez Mags, Tred tells it like it is and you call him a poopy head?? I see his
(?) and raised(??) to you.

M G
M G
  M G
September 30, 2019 8:59 am

A joke to EC’s comment about the arguing comes down to who is and who is NOT a poopy head. Sorry Tampa.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  M G
September 30, 2019 9:27 am

quite alright,thought you were offended by the rev or were just having an irrational moment–just 4 you,another rev billy song,female problems–

flash
flash
  Hardscrabble Farmer
September 30, 2019 9:04 am

Politics is merely entertainment for people that still like to pretend they have a voice in government. Congress harbors the worst and most overpaid actors evah.

BL
BL
  flash
September 30, 2019 12:16 pm

Flash- Could not agree more, that is all they have ever been as the scam has been in full gear since the beginning. Remember, politics is acting for the ugly people , (thinking Mitch McConnell).

flash
flash
  BL
September 30, 2019 12:32 pm

I wonder what HF would make of the physiognomics of these two meat eater’s faces ? The degenerate governor of Colorado and dual Israeli citizen with his wife or husband ? Still, there are those that pretend the Republic is not already lost.
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BL
BL
  flash
September 30, 2019 12:39 pm

Flash…..I’m eating over here, almost hurled chunks at the sight.

Deviant warning please!

EC
EC
  BL
September 30, 2019 12:49 pm

I thought Iska said Mitch was pretty? I’m a guy so I can’t tell pretty from ugly unless it’s a chick.

BL
BL
  Hardscrabble Farmer
September 30, 2019 12:08 pm

Trump and Pelosi, both acting for the same club HF, you should know this. What will happen when by some miracle from God the sheep look at each other (with the glowing light bulb cartouche over their head) and figure out how the game REALLY works? I would love to live long enough to see that happen. Not that anything would change but at least the stupid would tone down quite a bit.

TampaRed
TampaRed
September 29, 2019 11:22 pm

trump needs to go into hardcore campaign mode 4 the next couple of weeks while they are in recess in democratic districts that he either won or lost by 10% or less in 2016–
2-3 rallies/day would fire up the base & cause a bunch of dem house members to either risk a loss next year or defy pelosi,either would be great,though 4 the good of the nation no impeachment is best–

ursel doran
ursel doran
September 30, 2019 12:56 am

New book by well known respected author lays out the Biden’s Ukraine crimes, & China.