Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,
Why does this keep happening to California year after year? As you read this article, enormous wildfires are ravaging large portions of northern California, and Governor Gavin Newsom has already declared a statewide emergency. An extreme wind event that began on Saturday evening is pushing the fires along at a staggering rate, and when the winds are howling this ferociously it is exceedingly difficult for firefighters to keep the fires from spreading. It was being reported that on Sunday morning there were sustained winds exceeding 90 mph in northern California with “gusts that topped 100 mph”. It was the strongest wind event in several years, and it came at an extremely unfortunate time.
These “hurricane-force Diablo winds” will continue into Monday morning, but that doesn’t mean that things will start to get better. As you will see below, another extreme wind event is in the forecast for Tuesday and Wednesday.
The Kincade Fire is the largest of the wildfires, and according to ABC News it has now “grown to 85 square miles”…
California Fire officials say a rapidly moving fire in Northern California wine country has grown to 85 square miles (220 square kilometers) and destroyed 94 buildings.
Cal Fire spokesman Jonathan Cox called the conditions throughout California “a tinderbox” Sunday and asked people to continue being vigilant in helping to prevent fires from breaking out.
That is an absolutely massive wildfire, and the extremely strong winds are picking up embers from the Kincade Fire and starting blazes in new areas.
The following is what Cal Fire Captain Robert Foxworthy told reporters on Sunday morning…
“The wind speeds are extreme…The strongest winds I have felt in my career,” Cal Fire Capt. Robert Foxworthy told KPIX 5 Sunday morning. “They (the winds) are throwing embers a considerable distance in front of the main fire, causing spot fires, creating a real challenge for the crews fighting the fire.”
The Kincade Fire was only about 10 percent contained early on Sunday, but thanks to this extreme wind event the level of containment has now fallen to 5 percent.
In other words, this fire is completely and utterly out of control.
Pacific Gas & Electric is telling us that “nearly 2.7 million people lost electricity” on Sunday, and they are expecting more blackouts in northern California during the week.
Could you imagine being in the dark with no electricity and massive wildfires are raging all around you?
This is a terrifying time for those living in northern California, and approximately 200,000 are currently under mandatory evacuation orders.
According to the Sonoma County Sheriff, nobody can remember another time when there was an evacuation order this large…
Approx 180,000 people under evacuation order due to #KincadeFire. This is the largest evacuation that any of us at the Sheriff’s Office can remember. Take care of each other.
“I’ve heard some people express concerns that we’re evacuating too many people,” Sonoma County Sheriff Mark Essick said Sunday.
“I think those concerns are not valid at this point.”
As Bloomberg reports, power was knocked out in heavily populated areas including Oakland and Berkeley, and almost all of the affluent Marin County north of San Francisco. While the city of San Francisco itself was spared, many of the workers in commuter towns were hit.
In the suburbs of Marin County, street lights were out, gas stations were closed and stores were shuttered. People who charged their phones and computers before the outage hit awoke to slow internet connections as they searched for updates.
In Oakland, long stretches of banks, pharmacies, restaurants, shops and markets were dark. Police patrol cars parked at intersections to help navigate vehicles through darkened traffic lights.
PG&E said it would begin inspections in the rest of its blacked-out territory early Monday morning, returning electricity as quickly as possible.
But while executives said they would try to restore power to everyone who lost it before the next blackout began, they warned that they might not have time. Some customers, they said, might stay in the dark for days.
And it’s not just NorCal, Southern California is suffering also with mass evacuations across some of the wealthiest regions in LA…
Sadly, most homeowners in California do not have fire insurance, and so when they lose their homes they may find it exceedingly difficult to rebuild.
And after last year’s horrific fires, some insurance companies decided not to renew coverage for many of those that did actually have fire insurance…
After last year’s devastating wildfires, insurance companies are balking at fire coverage policy renewals for more than 350,000 residents in high-risk areas.
“We are seeing an increasing trend across California where people at risk of wildfires are being non-renewed by their insurer,” state Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara said in a statement.
The California Department of Insurance “has seen cases where homeowners were paying an annual premium of $800-$1,000 but, upon renewal, saw increases to as high as $2,500-$5,000,” a staggering rise of more than 300 percent in most cases.
Insurance companies keep making it really hard for us to have a positive view of them. The entire purpose for insuring our homes is so that if disaster strikes we will be able to rebuild.
Of course it probably doesn’t make much business sense to keep insuring multi-million dollar homes that are built in the middle of a tinderbox if these sorts of wildfires are just going to keep happening year after year after year.
But the truth is that we never used to see fires of such ferocity and intensity year after year. Yes, there have always been wildfires in California, but something has changed.
So why is this happening?
Why is California being absolutely pummeled by unprecedented fires in recent years?
Ultimately, I think that these latest fires will encourage even more people to leave the state, and you certainly can’t blame anyone that wants to leave.
The winds that are fueling the rapid growth of these wildfires are expected to die down late on Monday, but then another extreme wind event is coming on Tuesday…
On Sunday afternoon, PG&E announced it’s monitoring another extreme-wind event that could trigger yet another power outage Tuesday and Wednesday, the third such blackout in a week and fourth in October. Up to 32 counties in Northern and Central California could be affected.
Any way that you want to look at it, this is going to be a very tough week for northern California. This is what Governor Gavin Newsom said about “the next 72 hours” on Saturday…
“The next 72 hours will be challenging,” Gov. Gavin Newsom said on Saturday. “I could sugarcoat it, but I will not.”
At this moment, there are some portions of northern California that literally look like “hell on Earth”.
The devastation caused by these fires is going to be immense, but so far there haven’t been any reported deaths.
So that is the good news.
But the bad news is that these fires are going to keep happening, and the extreme social decay that is pushing so many people to leave the state is only going to intensify.
Yes, the weather is very nice in California in the winter and there are still lots of good jobs, but if I was living in California right now I would be looking to leave as soon as possible.
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The state is being intentionally destroyed on many levels. Why??
Why does this keep happening to California year after year?
Indeed, why do hate on California articles pop up every fall and climax in winter? What did California ever do to the other states? Jealousy and envy is no way to live. Californians have enough to worry about with wildfires, mudslides, quakes, high rents and Yankee invaders.
There is a great article Jim posted a couple of days ago called, “The last 10 years have been an unparalleled transfer of wealth to the managerial class.” The article uses Texas Instruments as an example. Read that, and then just substitute PG& for Texas Instruments, and realize that Wall Street has been asset stripping PG&E since the Enron days. And they’re just now hitting the failure point. They no longer have enough money to do routine maintenance and upgrades. California is just like any other third world country. Us white folks who have taken electricity for granted our whole life might be shocked by this, but to the third world population that California has welcomed for the last 30 years, it ain’t no big deal.
How many billions were wasted on the lead-up to the high-speed rail line cancellation that could have been used on infrastructure as well?
Funny as hell. Muh capitalism which, by now, should be clear….ain’t capitalism.
“California is just like any other third world country”
According to this article, the PGE spokesman said, in a week old interview with NBC, that rolling blackouts may be here to stay for Calif.
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Why do hate on CA articles pop up? Because CA provides more interesting fodder. CA is the only state that is routinely totally on fire. Where else is there such a concentration of street-shitters? If a movie star’s house slides into the ocean, I’m sorry, but that’s funny. All those people in Silicon Valley who micro dose acid and take ice baths to stop the aging process? That’s not a story you’ll read out of Lincoln NE. Seattle has some big homeless encampments and it gets covered in the news. Florida had a spate of bath-salts face-eating a couple years ago. So there’s that. There’s just not much weird shit in Connecticut or Wisconsin or most other places.
Florida is right up there in the running though
It was too bad Charles Manson died, now that was the gift that keeps giving, a potential new story about every six months for the last fifty years. Who wouldn’t enjoy hearing a cell phone was found in his cell and that he had ordered pizza.
Well there is Bobby Beausoleil to carry on with the torch, with his facebook page and fifteen year old admirers along with the cd sales.
And that island of radioactive trash headed its way… I hear ya, buddy! Empathy all around.
They’re called ‘Santa Ana’ winds.
They are called Diablo winds in SF area.
I was atop Mt Diablo in CA a few years ago. Everywhere around me was tinder-dry grass. A single match would have set the entire East Bay ablaze. To me the question isn’t why does CA have so many fires, it’s how do they get by with so few?
I suppose it rains more up there. Down here it hardly ever rains. When it does, the vegetation makes the hills and mountains look like Hawaii for a couple of weeks. Then it dries up and you know the October fire season (when the Santa Ana winds kick up) is going to be a doozy. Then, after the fires, you know there are going to be mud slides in February when the rains come. After that, you know the tards in flyover country will play the ‘blame the victim’ game. They will wonder out loud why doesn’t California just slide into the ocean. Damn tards are as predictable as the wildfires and mudslides.
EC, you know weed all be better off if Cali would simply deep six itself.
I was listening to the dude on KFI (640 AM). He’s a jerk but he commented on how out of state folks think of California as a punchline; crumbling infrastructure, wildfires, earthquakes, homeless, mud slides, population, public poop…Then he went on to bitch about gas prices.
I’m actually happier not listening to talk radio. The only reason I tuned in was to get updates on the wildfire in West LA.
Who you calling tards? And, Donkey? you said weed when you mean’t we’d. Unless you are buzzed. Which I doubt.
No, I meant weed. Isn’t Cali the weed capitol of America?
Tards in flyover country? I resemble that remark!
Because the leftist climate changers refuse to allow coordinated burning to stop this from happening. This is what happens. Thats why they started doing coordinated burns.
The envirofascists would rather save the the lesser CA dung beetle than do away with the tinder that makes the fires burn out of control.
Freedom for the Dung Beetle!
This is only going to push the hapless/helpless liberals out of LaLa land and into the real world, where they will immediately demand change they can believe in…..
They need to stay out there.
Can we build a wall to keep them out of semi-free America?
Snyder is as mentally deficient as the enviro-whackos. Newsflash, Snyder: It is GUARANTEED these types of fires have happened before. If not during the last 100+ years of good record keeping (although it probably has and you didn’t check your homework), then during the past 4.5 billion years on this rock.
NOTHING is new under the sun. Especially not a single article this fuckstick writes. He should just title every article of his as String.Concat(“We’re all going to die, ” state.name, “, “, state.doom.version);
I also really don’t comprehend why people think insurers should continue to cover very high risk areas. If I were them I would have pulled out of California and Florida eons ago. If people are stupid enough to live in disaster areas, they deserve to lose their shit.
The comment that most Californians don’t have fire insurance is so ignorant that it made me blush. Not everyone has earthquake coverage. Anyone with a mortgage has fire insurance.
Yes…after a multi BILLION dollar loss, where insurance companies didn’t realize they were exposed to catastrophic fire loss, they are going to have to up their premiums. If they don’t they will go out of business.
Even $2500 in premium won’t go far when paying for a $450,000 home.
2500 sounds cheap My homeowners policy went from 2k to 4K on my small cape in Sag Harbor I sold the place
Everyone with a mortgage has fire insurance, it’s required…Snyder is a retard.
I agree They aren’t in business to lose money even though I have little love for insurance companies in general
The cause? One word-“environmentalism”.
Environmentalists are bent on destroying private property rights and are using California as a “test case”, using PG&E to make present day private property uninhabitable.
The prohibition on clear-cutting and reducing the “fuel load” for large-scale fires is intentional and is being used to make suburban and country living uninhabitable ON PURPOSE.
Environmentalists would love nothing better than to “cull the human population” by 90% and force the rest to live in cities, in soviet-style high-rise apartments and using bicycles and mass-transit for transportation.
Automobiles would be reserved for those environmentalists who need transportation to their country “dachas”, but would be “off-limits” to the rest of us..
OPERATION TORCH CALIFORNIA: Hard Evidence Proving Wildfires Started by Arsonists (Videos)
New World Order Globalist Cabal Throws More Fuel On The California Wildfires
STATE OF THE NATION: Alternative News, Analysis & Commentary
PG&Egate
California State Government and PG&E Outright Lied to the Residents About the Power Shutdown
I thought is was due to D.E.W.
Donkey,
I have never said that No. 5 is the only tactic being used in ‘their’ overall strategy…read the Georgia Guide Stones for their end game.
Just to be clear – until I find more evidence, at the top are the Luciferian Bankster Globalists…some who are Zionists and some who are members of competing Game of throne Crime Families and various Mafias, fighting for dominance and rank in the emerging and demonic New World Order.
Their tactics in relation to this thread:
1. Atmospheric Aluminum via Chemtrails HAARP Frequencies
2. Weaponized SMART Meters
3. Specific EMFs Disseminated from Cellphone and Microwave Towers,
4. Localized 5G EMP
5. Directed Energy Weapons Fired from Drones
6. Satellites, Air Force Aircraft and Naval Ships
7. Arsonists Disguised as Firefighters
8. Fire-starting Incendiary Devices
9. Gross Mismanagement of California Forests
Overloaded PG&E power lines and other Geoengineering and weather modification techniques are all used in a highly coordinated fashion to fabricate a very conducive environment for isolated firestorms to be triggered and then spread like wildfire in targeted communities throughout California.
Did you read the links above? Draw your own conclusions. I was convinced years ago DEW weapons were being used against Americans sleeping in their homes.
I sent this e-mail to a friend of mine a couple of hours ago: “Brian, I bought 7 blackberry bushes today and was putting them in my orchard late this afternoon. Digging, wheelbarrow work…lots of sweat…satisfied I finished, looked up at the setting sun and I counted six rows of Chemtrails spreading out in the sky. Pissed me off.”
He just sent me this response”
“MARK: I told Hannah and Karen the SAME THING this evening! (His daughter and wife) Pointed out the ChemTrails. Grrrrr!!”
This is from 2017 – there are dozens more with the same and even stronger evidence…I have posted them. To me the evidence is indisputable. When I mention DEW to most, they look at me like they did many years ago when I told them 911 was done by components of the government…and then they change the subject.
Show me a person with true situational awareness, and then I’ll show 100,000 people with their heads up their asses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A58rYo_36JA
Yep…
…and the vultures circle far overhead.
“Yes, the weather is very nice in California in the winter and there are still lots of good jobs, but if I was living in California right now I would be looking to leave as soon as possible.”
Finest real estate on earth. Bring some honest chaos and the vultures will be able to buy it up on the cheap.
No that was 911
What a shame. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.
Let’s see: overpopulated, people decided it was a good idea to live in heavily timbered areas, people decided hell, let’s put electric wires in the air instead of underground in heavily timbered areas, gee let’s plant a whole bunch of Australian eucalypts that burn like bags of oil, and while we are at it, how about we never maintain those electrical lines.
What a load of shit. Stupid is as stupid does. And when Abdul and friends realize that a box of matches, a map, and a forecast of wind and temp, can cause more havoc than hijacked jumbo jets at a fraction of the risk, what happens then?
Darwinism at its finest coming into play.
I was just wondering why they didn’t put the lines underground? I used to cut firebreaks in central CA. Those dead weeds were four feet tall and embers from a fire would travel a long way and start new fires. Lots of rattlesnakes also.
“…gee let’s plant a whole bunch of Australian eucalypts that burn like bags of oil…”
Bwahahahbaba
Yeah, it’s a real mystery.
Let’s go over the basics. The Los Angeles Basin maintained a population of between 13 and 15 million people in 2010. Add to that the growth in the last decade plus a substantial illegal population that could easily be 5 million and you are looking at 20 million human beings at minimum. What do you think the average human water usage is per year? close to 40,000 gallons. We’re talking about close to a trillion gallons of water annually excluding demands of businesses and agriculture. Now get out a map and look for the naturally occurring sources of fresh water. There are none. L.A is entirely dependent upon the kindness of strangers in this regard.
Trillions and trillions of gallons of water removed from the aquifers and soils that trees and brush rely on drained off with no way to replace it.
And now we can talk about the soil, you know, that living layer of the Earth that is home to the vast majority of living organisms. How much of that has been removed to make way for roads and highways, parking lots and buildings? And what do you think replaces the soil in the few remaining areas that haven’t been paved over or built upon? Space dust? It sure isn’t composting manures and as we know Los Angeles is a semi-arid coastal area whose most precious soils were all found in the delta areas that are completely developed and have been since the middle of the last century. Any rain water that happens to fall runs off at a rate close to 90% without ever having an opportunity to re-enter the aquifer.
Now how about the forestry laws put into effect by well meaning if not mentally retarded public officials who prohibited the removal of mature forests further out from the city in order to “save the trees” never thinking for even a moment that responsible forestry programs help to remove dead wood and create firebreaks that would make accidental forest fires less likely to occur and much easier to control should they happen to break out? How has that worked out?
You now have, in effect, a gigantic pile of tinder heaped up around the edges of one of the most densely populated pieces of American real estate with few if any natural water breaks, a thoroughly depleted aquifer, dry, dead soils, settled in a natural depression and all of it perched on the edge of a the Pacific Ocean which at certain times of the year acts as the world’s largest set of bellows. Viewed from above it resembles a gigantic campfire waiting for the match.
What was the expectation, exactly? That this wouldn’t happen?
Anyone who even pretends not to understand how this situation was deliberately engineered by hubris and arrogance, cupidity and deliberate ignorance isn’t going to get it now either.
HF joins the blame the victim game. Your not adding anything. I said before that: those folks to the north were idiots for moving into the forest and that the people impacted in LA were those who live in the hills (which are mostly luxury homes). This is not about water or saving trees. There are no trees to save in the hills, there are mostly scrub oak and juniper with lots of grass and wildflowers in between. You can’t go doing preventive burns over the thousands of acres in the hills – they got royally fucked in Arizona doing that shit – and the morons that bewail the fact that power lines weren’t and aren’t buried have no clue what they are talking about. The power lines are strung over the mountain range on huge towers. We can have buried lines and pay a fortune for electricity or we can have power lines on towers and have affordable electricity. Besides, it isn’t all just power lines to blame. There is the wind and arsonists as well.
Who are the victims, exactly? I don’t recall blaming anyone, but rather making a short list of deliberate and egregious acts that could only lead to the current set of circumstances. No one involved in any of those decisions including moving to a pathologically congested tinderbox could even remotely be considered a victim.
EC, my dear friend- they can bury the lines. But the cost of burying the lines is extreme – around $250 BILLION dollars. So not an option at this stage.
CA is a fucking desert with no water, yet 40 million people live there. It is ridiculous, and should never have been allowed to happen. And as HSF says, what is happening is entirely predictable. Here is an idea – why don’t say 25 million of those move somewhere more conducive to supporting human life? If they can find places that will take them, of course. 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjO7QMP4h-Y
Sam Kinison on World Hunger “Move where the fckin food is!” Sorta like that.
Thanks for an excellent discussion by you, Farmer and others.
I cannot recommend too highly Marc Reisner’s fine 1986 book ‘Cadillac Desert’.
“CA is a f…ing desert with no water” Indeed!
It’s all there; the hijacking of Rocky Mountain states with their one-way Water Compacts
as well as the rape of the Owens River, the Bureau of Reclamation and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
My husband is one of those around here who gripes when a storm knocks out power, claiming that burying the lines would have been a lot smarter from the beginning. Burying things in rocky soil required a lot of dynamite, I hear, when they strung all these lines.
As for me? We lose power? Sometimes I don’t notice.
Once the lines are buried it seems maintenance would be cheaper in the future and no fires and/ or clearing required I’m not sure of your hypnosis
How many years of court cases and at what cost will it be for PG&E before they could bury the first very expensive cable?
Trillions and trillions of gallons of water removed from the aquifers and soils that trees and brush rely on drained off with no way to replace it.
One of the reasons I watched the rising levels on these rivers here so closely this year … a phenomena my father showed me via his archive of historical photos of the region is the sinking of the ground in the farmlands relative to surrounding stationary features, like small hills and some roadways built at ground level when my father was a boy… they are now several feet above ground. Weird changes going on with all the sinkholes and trembling.
Texas is not far behind. A few years back there were many fires, especially in the Central part of the state. Too many people, too much development, not enough water. Water is going to be a VERY major issue in the not-too- distant future for most of the SW. It has always been that way and it will get much worse soon, only a matter of time.
The bright side could be that Hollywood Rob sees this preview of hell and repents before it’s too late?
Well, you just lived up to your name.
You are certainly a better person than I, but then again, you weren’t the (rotten) apple of that cherubim’s eye like I, were ya?
Nice little state you got there, shame if burns to the ground.
Ha!
One of my all-time favorites.
Everybody’s favorite. I still don’t know how a killing frost triggered the wildfire.
Musta been the 4 am DEW…
And who owns PG& E? The Rothschilds- no shit !!!!
Yep! I posted that on another similar thread.
I knew I recently heard that. Sorry I didn’t give proper acknowledgement.
Oh, buddy…I’m not the only that said that…I was just saying I second your insight.
You can’t throw a rock at a corporate crime without hitting a Rothschild or a Rockefeller.
Vultures.
California has had mean wildfires ever since I can remember and I am 72 years old. What has changed is the administrative laws that have been put in place that have created this problem. Turn off power? why? Do you know it takes power to keep the pumps running that supply water to the communities that are on fire!
Stupidity is running rampant among the people responsible for governing the superstructures supporting our way of life.
I imagine the forests in CA have always burned. When the population was nomadic Indians that moved from place to place, outrunning the fires was a problem occasionally, I’m sure. But they burned anyway – in an eternal cycle of burnoff, reseeding / growth, maturity, decay, and back to burnoff. As long as no one settled down, you could move from a burnt / burning area to a growing one, and carry on.
But humans learned agriculture, and settling down in one place. This brought growing populations, and exhaustion of resources in a limited biosphere. Once the permanent settled population exceeded the water supply, it should have died off / stopped / reverted to sustainability. It didn’t.
Instead, the politicians made deals – to take water from Nevada, Utah, Colorado and Arizona to keep supplying the CA overpopulation. The overpopulation consumed local resources even faster than imported ones, and no one was able to stop.
This is the result. You got what you wanted, mega-cities full of people who have no connection to the land and no appreciation of how limited the local biosphere really is. You will have to move, or die.
And when you land elsewhere in the Western US, you will retain the stupid policies and approaches that ruined CA, and ruin your new locations. A pox on anyone who cannot learn from their own stupidity, and take it with them to inflict on others.
“Liberals with Lighters”
Then they take pics of the fire and devastation and blame it on global warming…..
Obviously these fires are a divine chastisement for all the sodomy going on in LA and SF.
I read the article, all the comments….haha and this site dang sure has a fine collection of brainiacs in square hats.
The comment by HSF just upthread, (and the Wiley C.’s response)……I picture scrabble like a john-wayne-lookin character standin in a pair of denim bibs, wearing a square hat with a tassel, standing in front of a framed diploma from Critical Thinking University…..
IMHO, Mark is runnin point…..without a constant reference to/understanding of the Luciferians’ agenda, it is not possible to arrive at the true motive of it all.
Not even EC mentioned the corporate rights of Nestle….
https://www.nestle-watersna.com/en/nestle-water-news/statements/nestle-waters-statement-california-water-rights-strawberry-canyon
https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2016/05/20/california-investigates-nestle-water-rights/84638050/
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/28/624156334/nestl-offered-permit-to-continue-taking-water-from-california-stream
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They’re stealing the water but that’s a horse of a different color, we are talking wildfires here. (Besides, LA steals it’s water from Mono Lake so it is kind of hard to criticize.) I can understand a little envy when California enjoys 70 degree temps and the folks back east are freezing their asses. I just don’t relish anybody’s home getting burned down to satisfy the inner pyro of people in waterlogged states. You don’t kid about fire over here. HR was kind of cavalier about the Ojai fires but you have to realize he is a Yankee transplant.
Car chases are cool, though.
Yea, it might be a horse of a different color, but it’s runnin in the same herd. A little irrigation might help.
We have an aseptic bottling company here in this little town. Nestles is one of their major contracts (they lost Hershey’s and are tied up in lawsuits, maybe the same with Nestle by now), and the amount of water consumed is enormous. With miss-batched product occurring daily, to the tune of easily 10,000 gallons of waste a day, after multiple fines from the state environmental dept., the company has had to construct their own waste plant to predigest the waste before it is sent to the municipal treatment plant. The company is ALWAYS on the ‘shutoff’ list for being late on water bill, but they know the city will never…..NEVER…..shut them off because of the ‘jobs’ that provide the rent to pay the masonic overlandlords…and off course the tote-a-note car lots.
A couple years back the ‘bigshots’ of the company/city/lodge started talking about purchasing water rights to draw directly from our aquafer. It was around the last time I went to city hall commission meetings-they started having two AGWs-one to sit behind me when I went to the speakers podium, and the other remaining at the door……..
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I don’t see Nestle’ as a benevolent industry providing jobs…..I see them as the devils they are. Have you seen any vids of the CEO stating if people can’t pay to get water, they have no right to it?
I drove all the way to California in the early 80s to go see a big tree name General Sherman.