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Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 9:03 am

What’s the matter, don’t have room for the tens of thousands of US war criminals currently ‘serving’ in the Middle East? You know, the ones wearing a US military costume and killing people over there for no reason.

The disgusting human filth isn’t just isolated to those others that look foreign. They’re right in the US heartland and proud of ‘serving their country’ by butchering people that have never harmed anyone in the US.

Steve
Steve
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 10:06 am

SAO,
We all know the BS reasons we’re all over the ME and most parts of the world. Yes, our soldiers kill others. To make equivocal our Soldiers and some 7th century loons is jumping the shark. I hope you to pay a heavy price for such a bizarre comment.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Steve
December 28, 2019 1:02 pm

Every US soldier from at least Vietnam onward is a war criminal. There has been no declaration of war by Congress for all these murderous adventures and therefore the participants are murderers.

I make no equivalence to the local swine in the ME that can stomach such atrocities except to say that they are way over there and none of my, your, or our business. The FACT that the US invaded nation after nation in the ME means the US is the bad guy and US soldiers are complicit in the murders of hundreds of thousands of people, mostly innocent civilians, and should be brought before an international war crimes tribunal along with at least every living president since Eisenhower and the entire chain of command all the way up through Congress.

If your morality can condone what the US soldiers have done, then you’re no better than they are.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 1:37 pm

By your standards, you really should include Korea as well. Also no declaration, and little more than collective UN war crimes.

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 4:36 pm

“Every US soldier from at least Vietnam onward is a war criminal”.

May I advise cleaning the fog out of your brain cavity and perhaps locking your doors at night?

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Twisted Logic
December 28, 2019 5:04 pm

Are you contesting the truth of my statement?

Bottom line, have US soldiers operated under a declaration of war that would offer them some protection, or have they been the equivalent of mercenaries operating illegally under international law?

State your answer clearly and succinctly.

BTW – I left the US 15 years ago. I couldn’t stand the toxic political and social environment. Too many stupid people voting for the next crew of amoral sociopaths.

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 5:27 pm

Politely stating that, by your comments here, you must be a pompous ass.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Twisted Logic
December 28, 2019 5:29 pm

So, you can’t refute my statement. All you can do is shoot the messenger.

You are the caricature of the real American; dumb as a stump.

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 8:24 pm

Having read your comments with amusement for the last few weeks I would not waste any time to refute your statement.

“Every US soldier”….

……..now let’s think about that claim; “every” suggests 100.000000000%, as in all of ’em, right? Now I understand you enjoy hyperbole, but come on and talk intelligently, will you?

I still think you are a pompous ass.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Twisted Logic
December 29, 2019 5:43 am

The Department of Defense has been a criminal organization for well over 50 years.

The day prior to the 911 incident, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld went on national TV to announce that the DOD couldn’t account for $2.3 Trillion in funds. Recently, Dr Mark Skidmore and Catherine Austin Fitts have identified $21 Trillion that DOD has absconded with. Also recently, laws were passed to make gov’t accounting even more opaque than they already were to try to hide all the theft.

RECO statutes could be used to prosecute an on going criminal enterprise, which DOD – The US military – is. Those in the employ of said criminal enterprise are subject to prosecution. The only question is to what degree soldiers are culpable for all manner of criminality.

In the law, the concept of ‘should have known’ applies to individuals that claim innocence due to ignorance. The Nuremberg trials held that following illegal orders is criminal and since the entire DOD is a criminal racket, following any of their orders anywhere makes an individual culpable.

You can name call all you want, but it doesn’t change the situation. When you grow up you might realize how childish you sound.

You won’t attempt a refutation of my statements because you can’t do it. You have neither the intelligence, writing skills or the truth on your side.

niebo
niebo
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 29, 2019 7:44 am

Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations

RICO

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/content/rico-act.html

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 30, 2019 1:14 am

SAO, as niebo mentions, it is correctly referred to as RICO, but surely you know that already?

I feel it would a better use of time to employ RICO provisions to the criminal acts of-for starters-the Clintons and their foundation rather than to the DOD. Using a military term, that is called “choosing your battles”.

Your attempt to broad brush every soldier a “war criminal” on the basis of your fuzzy perceptions and your extreme knowledge is ludicrous. You mention elsewhere that you were drafted during the Vietnam era but refused to serve, so I can understand your inability to see things from the perspective of one who actually did serve.

My take on the photographs posted here is different than yours. Someone holding what appears to be the severed head of a man is identified as a war criminal and then, six years later a man with like features is identified as an EU refugee. The implied message-in my opinion-is nations that allow barbarians to take refuge in their country are at risk. A secondary implied message is that leaders of nations who seek out, accept, or tolerate barbarian refugees are doing a disservice to their citizens.

Care to debate that?

And yes, my opinion of you is unchanged.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Twisted Logic
December 30, 2019 6:11 am

What some low life local does in some foreign land is of no consequence to me. If their culture (or lack of it) allows for such acts, it’s none of my business.

If the US had not invaded the ME, none of this would matter. The US started all this and consequently is responsible for it, including the acts of reprisal by barbarians holding severed heads.

How exactly is the pictured individual different than the US pilot that sends a missile into a wedding party and blows the shit out of dozens of people? Heads over there, arms somewhere else, etc. The fact that he does so from a safe altitude changes nothing. He’s an even larger swine than the individual pictured and is allowed back into the US as some sort of hero. He’s a murderer. Why does wearing a costume make a difference in your mind?

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 31, 2019 2:00 am

When Clinton approved the bombing of the factory in Sudan that may have produced aspirin-or nerve gas-did that make him a War Criminal like all the others you want to malign?

Or only if he wears a costume?

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Twisted Logic
December 31, 2019 6:41 am

All living presidents are war criminals.

You said you wanted a debate. Why not answer the question I posed:
How exactly is the pictured individual different than the US pilot that sends a missile into a wedding party and blows the shit out of dozens of people?

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 31, 2019 11:42 pm

Collateral damage; QED.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 8:08 pm

Not every soldier “from at least Vietnam onward” has served in a war zone, so how would they be war criminals. Generalized statements tend to be bogus BS.

Exring
Exring
December 28, 2019 9:23 am

Solutions are Obvious-Our military would not be there save for the fact that such “invaders” stayed at home. All the members of the US Military I know have NO desire to do what the pictured individual was involved. I understand it is “Their Legal System” (Sharia) but that is NOT ours and, since you are, apparently inamored with such a system, GO THERE! As a matter of fact, go there and do not come back. Live the wonderful life you desire. Should you return you might best be determined “persona non grata” and punished by our Legal System accordingly.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Exring
December 28, 2019 1:07 pm

Build up a straw man and knock him down. You’re not too bright.

I detest anyone that carries a weapon for any government, mafia, warlord, etc. That includes the US military as they are amoral swine for doing what they’ve been doing since Vietnam.

I don’t condone atrocities committed by lunatics of any stripe. The US military is absolutely full of amoral swine to follow orders that kill hundreds of thousands in foreign countries that have never posed a threat to the US.

StackingStock
StackingStock
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 3:08 pm

All one has to do is look at Lybia at what we do, but that would requiring you first pulling your head out of your ass.

Fucking mercenaries, killing for money not the US.

Carry on. ..

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  StackingStock
December 28, 2019 4:23 pm
StackingStock
StackingStock
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 7:53 pm

SOS, nice comment.

Carry on DICK.

Steve
Steve
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 5:31 pm

SAO,
I seriously doubt you ever served. Your comments, and from what I see your understanding of the military indicates uninformed statements.
Half the military is composed of guys with families they can’t support. The lure of their family needs being met ( housing, food,medical, dental, etc) is the bait. Between, see the world, family security and get training for civilian employment, encompasses 90 plus % of those who join. An extremely small few sign up to “kill some fuckers”. Those types are screened out early. By and large they are your middle and lower income neighbors kids.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Steve
December 28, 2019 5:37 pm

I refused induction during Vietnam after I was drafted. I’m no one’s slave and I don’t murder people in foreign lands.

Your description is probably accurate but that doesn’t change the FACT that these low life individuals murder people for a living. They feed their families by killing other people who have done absolutely nothing to them.

I stand by my statements. If you can show that what I stated is untrue. please do so. If you can’t, then search your conscience.

Steve
Steve
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 5:46 pm

SAO,
They seriously believe they are fighting for “democracy and our freedoms” back home. We know they are but MIC Zionist puppets. They don’t know that. The propaganda runs deep. Those are unfortunately the facts.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Steve
December 28, 2019 5:51 pm

No, they don’t. No one believes that bullshit.
The people that volunteer are low life trash that have no other option but to join the military because they wasted their years of education on nonsense. They go in knowing what they are going to do is illegal under international and US law, but they do it anyway because they have no other option. That does not excuse them from becoming murderers with life long benefits.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 10:58 pm

Your social skills suck.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Hardscrabble Farmer
December 29, 2019 5:29 am

Yes, I know my social skills suck.

I have the bad manners to always tell the unvarnished truth and I don’t care about anyone’s feelings.

Paula
Paula
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 30, 2019 7:32 am

Ignored…

M G
M G
  Hardscrabble Farmer
December 30, 2019 7:31 am

I think he knows what he is up to.

Eve
Eve
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 30, 2019 7:29 am

That generalization of military volunteers shows you are here to create dissent and not contribute.

You will be ignored until you grow angrier at being ignored. You will decide to target one or more monkeys here with insults, causing weaker minds to hurl hurtful things.

We have seen you before.

Get your lying ass out of here, Demon.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Eve
December 30, 2019 7:53 am

I’ve taken on the best this site has to offer in terms of bad language and shallow thinking. So far, none has bested my logical and thoroughly rational approach to topics.

Where have I lied? Please point it out to me and I’ll correct it.

You don’t like the fact that I see through the platitudes and bromides I’m supposed to uphold. I piss on them regularly.

Why not try to counter my argument? Haven’t the brains or skill?

splurge
splurge
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 30, 2019 1:20 pm

They go in knowing what they are going to do is illegal under international and US law

This statement is mostly wrong because of the nonsense the public schools impose on them instead of education,they are often at best ignorant dupes believing they are fighting for freedom as Steve suggested above. Its very difficult to build anything solid on a rats nest of a foundation such as public schools in this country increasingly provide.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  splurge
December 30, 2019 3:24 pm

You realize that you are condoning the murder of innocent people in foreign lands simply because the perpetrators are wearing a gov’t issued costume.

When those same murderers are ordered to kill your neighbors or your family member, how will you feel about that? Will you also excuse those murders?

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 28, 2019 8:39 pm

Now it is Obvious: unlike you (and WJ Clinton) I-and thousands of other young men-dealt with the military draft honorably during those years and signed up to serve prior to possibly being drafted. I would say that is owning the hand you were dealt-whether you liked it or not. I do know a lot of veterans who quickly got hired into decent jobs after they mustered out, and personally know of none who were dodgers or COs who enjoyed that form of payback.

Paula to SAO
Paula to SAO
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 30, 2019 7:22 am

Refused induction? How’s that work?

M G
M G
  Paula to SAO
December 30, 2019 7:22 am

Good question…

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Paula to SAO
December 30, 2019 7:42 am

I said I wasn’t going to be their slave under any circumstances.

When some standing uniformed idiot blurted out something to the effect : ‘we’ll ship your ass off right now’, I countered with something to the effect : ‘ and if I get access to a weapon, I know who my enemies are’.

The seated uniformed idiot understood that I was going to be more trouble than I was worth and stopped the process.

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Paula to SAO
December 31, 2019 2:18 am

The more common way to refuse and avoid induction was to declare and be granted conscientious objector status and then usually have to perform community service work-often doing sub-CNA type of work in a hospital. Know one guy who did just that, then became a social studies teacher for 30 years, and still shows his anger from his days as an unwilling volunteer.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  Twisted Logic
December 31, 2019 6:52 am

I owe the gov’t absolutely nothing.
I don’t do slave duty of any sort.

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Solutions Are Obvious
December 31, 2019 11:44 pm

Does that make you virtuous?

e.d. ott
e.d. ott
December 28, 2019 9:54 am

“Everybody’s had to fight to be free … no, you don’t have to live like a refugee.”

Especially in your own country.
My wife’s family ran from the Cultural Revolution. Her best friend was a former Red Guard who defected and converted. Now I can understand why they ran, but they seem sort of confused why I’m no mood to feel that way. I was in the ME from 2004-2007 and again 2008-2010. I fully understood the mindset of insurrectionist Iraqi militias fighting the US troops up to a point, but it didn’t fail to make an impression on my way of thinking about the greater issues beyond the war when I went home.

BB
BB
  e.d. ott
December 28, 2019 11:55 am

What’s scary is in the next 15 to 20 years our military will be sent to kill other Americans right here at home. Young white men probably wouldn’t turn on the white population but the “people’s of color” ones in our military will.Thid is another reason liberals just love them being put in our military . Also look at the police and national guard units. They are all forever trying to recruit minorities.

Fisi Mweusi
Fisi Mweusi
  BB
December 28, 2019 12:58 pm

Steve & BB, before you start having “Whitey is Righty” feelings of indignation, check this out:

http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/World_genocide/World_genocide.htm

http://www.realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/IQ/IQ.htm

Steve
Steve
  Fisi Mweusi
December 28, 2019 5:53 pm

Fisi,
Please take your afro studies indoctrination elsewhere. There are too many people with brains at this site to even think of entertaining the garbage you spew for a minute. That dog won’t run here at all. Now skedaddle, asshat.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Steve
December 28, 2019 6:36 pm

I think you’re right Steve, but you’d have to admit that is was a lot funnier than SNL is now.

Fisi Mweusi
Fisi Mweusi
  Steve
December 29, 2019 12:45 am

Yea Steve, atrophied, genetically inferior albino brains that cannot accept the truth (labelling it ‘indoctrination’) when confronted with it. Always creating artificial, false constructs then enclosing itself in a cocoon and thinking it has created the best, better and superior to God’s created Nature. Well, look at how your system if forking you up right now, and you blaming others like the b*#?ch that you are. My oh my, what a superior brain. If the albino’s system is so good, why hasn’t it created paradise on earth for the albinos first, then others? Take responsibility for your mess and do something. Stop blaming others.

Anyway, I wasn’t expecting an erudite response from your apparently deluded, addled and apathetic, apparently pitiful existence.

Adios, sucker, till next time!

Fatman from Oz
Fatman from Oz
  Fisi Mweusi
December 29, 2019 3:51 am

Go invent something useful like the other non albinos. In the meanwhile generations of your brethren will slaughter each other and expect albino to come to your aid. Rwanda 1994 . You non albino dumb fucks made sure that every non albino never came home the same. Your brethren battalions from Zambia left you to kill each other while watching from buildings and bunkers built by albino, while expecting the albino rifle companies to do the heavy lifting for you useless kunts. No disservice or disrespect to the few Zambians that actually did their mandate (very few and far between). Go fuck yourself you low IQ piece of shit that was born after being washed out of your mother’s arse.

Fisi Mweusi
Fisi Mweusi
  Steve
December 29, 2019 12:48 am

That was specifically for you Steve, and the others who think like you. Otherwise I have no problem with White people as long as they are willing to correct where things go wrong (tough love also appreciated) and support where other races are doing the right thing.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fisi Mweusi
December 28, 2019 8:48 pm

Following your masters’ ideology by attempting to lead others “away from the confusing universe of experience and toward the security of the clear-cut domain of words and ideas” will define your cold-heart.

Steve
Steve
  BB
December 28, 2019 5:17 pm

BB
Nope, most of the blacks in the military are good people. Many had fathers who are retired military and/or are patriotic in their own right. The military does a reasonable job of removing thugs before they sign up and gets rid one the ones who slip through quickly. I served with and knwe personally hundreds and not a one I knew wanted to kill whitey.

Mayor Sadiq Khan
Mayor Sadiq Khan
December 28, 2019 6:18 pm

He’s just trying to get a head in this world. What’s the problem?

Twisted Logic
Twisted Logic
  Mayor Sadiq Khan
December 31, 2019 11:50 pm

Score one for hishonor.

Earlier in the year there was a gripping account of severed heads in Saudi:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/07/the_morning_they_beheaded_the_drug_smugglers_it_wasnt_pretty_believe_me.html