Guest Post by Eric Peters
Do signs have rights?
More precisely, are we bound by respect for the property rights of store owners as supposedly expressed by signs that state it is “store policy” for patrons to wear a Facial Burqua as a condition of entry?
A number of prominent conservatives – and libertarians – have made the mistake of saying we are bound.
They miss the supposedly part.
It is the part that makes the assertion – supposedly – of property rights a red herring. A false argument.
For two reasons. They are: government and duress – essentially the same thing.
Face Burqa signs didn’t just spring up organically, the fruit of individual business owners freely deciding to require them. They sprang up almost all at once when business owners were forced to put them up as a condition of being allowed to remain open by the government, with additional coercion applied by corporations, which are creatures of the government. These corporations got together to decree the same “policy” at all their stores – thereby serving as adjuncts of the government.
Remember?
It’s very much of a piece with stores in Germany in the ’30s being expected – or else – to display the swastika banner and ban Jews – the “bacillus” – from entry. Certainly some did so willingly. But the point is it was almost impossible for others to not do so – else face the destruction of their businesses. The loss of their ability to feed and care for themselves – and their families.
It is a hard choice – but not a freely made one.
The government also applied force in other, more subtle ways – as by social pressure via the calculated, deliberate fomenting of mass hysteria; i.e., by using the threat of a population driven out of its mind by fear to get those Burqas on. Business owners understood that not going along with it meant the possibility of civilian reprisals – as in Germany, in the ’30s.
And indeed, the same basic thing happened. All it took was one anonymous call to the local Gesundheitsfuhrer’s office to have government sicced on a business that didn’t “mask” up.
Of course, by bowing to the threats, these businesses became complicit in the evil.
Perhaps understandably, in Sophie’s Choice kind of way – but that doesn’t change the fact of it. Their complicity further erodes any claim to the moral high ground – and our supposed obligation to obey – because no one is obligated to respect the “rights” of force.
Especially when it furthers an evil lie.
This is very important.
Face Burqa’ing is not a simple matter of etiquette, as in “no shirt, no shoes – no service” – the argument offered up by many conservatives and even some libertarians in defense of Face Burqa signage.
The signage propagates evil, seeks to coerce general complicity with it – as by placing a person who needs food – or his job – to show his affirmation with something he disagrees with by the forced wearing of it. And by forcing everyone to wear it, to make everyone complicit; to create a monstrous lie that it appears everyone agrees with it.
This of course strengthens the lie – and makes it harder for that reason to deny it, to reduce the harm it causes.
Another evil.
Being asked to respect a sign asking that you respect store policy to wear a shirt and shoes is not an assault upon anyone’s rights.
A sign demanding that you wear Satan Shoes – or a shirt that says you regard Satan as Number One – is a violation of everyone’s rights, particularly when it is . . . everywhere. Because of government – not the bizarre policy of a single (or even several) store owners, freely taken – without any threats of force emanating from the government for not posting such signage.
Another interesting aspect worth discussing is that government force – whether in the form of direct threats or in the form of indirect but no less threatening fomenting of mass hysteria – makes it essentially impossible to even know what the store owner’s freely taken decision would have been, in the absence of all these threats.
We know that before such threats manifested, many businesses did not post such signs.
It is perfectly reasonable to assume that many business owners despise the signs as much as we do, but post them for the same reason that a prisoner will “talk” when presented with the rubber hose.
Which, incidentally, is why testimony obtained via torture is considered unreliable (as well as illegitimate). A person facing the rubber hose – or the water board – will say anything to avoid the rubber hose or the water board. It is probable he would have said a very different thing – or nothing at all – had he been free to do so.
It is also why we usually feel some pity – some understanding – for the prisoner who was forced to shoot other prisoners or be shot himself.
It is even more important that this error about “property rights” be understood now that the signage is being changed. The new lettering will say than it is the policy of this business to only do business with – to only employ – those who have received “their” shot.
Once again, the perversion of a right into its opposite. “Their” shot implies property rights – in reverse.
Their true right to not have their actual property – themselves – violated by “their” (in actuality, the government’s) shot. Enforced by the threats, applied to privately owned businesses by the government – and by corporations that are the creatures of the government.
No one is obliged to have any respect for such signage.
Because of the government force behind it.
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More and more, I see “face coverings recommended” instead of “required” on the doors around here, if there is any signage at all. Even when the signs are there, they don’t really seem to care. I didn’t bother with one at all in three stores and one restaurant while out yesterday.
Governor Parsons (Missouri) let state employees know they are going back to work in all agencies in two weeks.
Those of us in Southern Missouri are a stubborn lot. At a quick stop a few months back waiting in line, an out of state individual asked why we weren’t masked. I said we just tell the mask Karen’s to kiss our ass. He took his off immediately!
Stubborn Missouri Bootheel Mules…
We were overrun by Bootheelers in Starksville during the early 70s, hope we still are. Great people. My bud Bob Pierce from Caruthersville got nabbed for streaking.
Caruthersville has some of the prettiest cotton blossoms in the world! Lot of fine people live there.
Was in Lowes Home Improvement today…saw four others maskless beside me…a new record!
That is still a lot of bleating….
In my other (married) life was the GM of the Esso, er Exxon, Distributor in North Wilkesboro. Knew Jim Lowe. He would be dead assed against masketeers.
Jim also got into the supermarket biz, did well there too. Wilkes County is interesting as hell. Its north part ain’t a bad place to summer from FL. Lotsa developments, albeit very very isolated.
Same here in SW Virginia. Still rather depressing. It was worse at BJs, I was the only one maskless. I don’t see a change in attitude by the public.
The “Private/Public” issue has been badly handled by the ‘right.’ Break through the programming.
https://odysee.com/@EJOK:c/WIN_20210505_08_34_58_Pro:1
There hasn’t been a legitimate right in the USA since before WW2. Just controlled oppo pundits and phony politicians.
We flew to see the kids this past week and were subjected to diaper Nazis in every area of the airport and plane. I found it quite humorous that the flight attendants threatened to have you arrested upon arrival if they had to tell you more than 2 times to wear your diaper properly but then said it was OK as long as you were eating or drinking
The Covid 1984 was no longer a threat as soon as they passed out snacks and drinks. For 20 minutes or so, almost everyone was exposing their mouth and nose as they ate/drank. It is amazing how long 3/4 oz of snack mix and a 6 oz drink can last when you have an incentive to breathe free. Spend $4 on a 1/2 l bottle of water and you can get another 20-30 min of clean air
It is all a game. Learn the rules and push them to the very limit. It drives the Karen’s & Ken’s crazy.
I flew recently on an airline that used to be a decent carrier. Not so now. The flying waitresses behaved like the Nazi prison camp guards portrayed in the movies. Utterly despicable. Hitler would have been proud. Worse experience I’ve had on a flight, ever (and that includes the crying baby for three hours flights).
Stores are private property, and in such can, or at least should be able, to set whatever rules they want. If that butt hurts you, then you are not a real American, and do not really believe in individual sovereignty.
There is no right to be admitted to a private business, it is a mutual agreement, and is thus subject to the rules set by the owner of the establishment.
What biz are you in jdog? Government lapdog biz, get your stim check. You are a POS!
Ouirphuqd what are you? A communist piece of shit? Have you ever read the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence? No you are an ignorant phuck who does not know the first thing about liberty or the rights of a sovereign individual . You are probably a dork sucking democrat
I know a lot more about liberty than you think, sovereign individual, you think you are? You get in line in front of the sheep, watch your rear because you are getting it good and hard. A business that would turn away clients on a bogus medical issue is losing a lot of business. Masks are worthless for sovereign individuals also. I’m a real fine commie democrat, my time in the military proves that. You just refuse to see the forest through the trees, too much shit in your eyes.
Try saying Blacks need masks. Whites don’t.
And then try saying Whites need masks and Blacks don’t.
In a truly free state you could do either.
The mask mandate is fear response, as the article points out.
Corpotacracy wins out.Just orders from above mam.
Your time in the military proves just that. And you have the Gaul to accuse others of being government lapdogs. Which illegal, murderous war did you support?
“gall” as in gallbladder, not “Gaul” as in France
Nope. This is the problem currently with those who lean right. Read the article again. They were all initially mandated by the government to require masks, shots next. I refuse to fall back on “property rights” in order to comply. Weak argument.
For those store owners who otherwise would NOT have required masks but for govt mandate , fines, or social pressure:
They’ve given up their property rights. They didn’t exercise those rights. They didn’t fight for those rights. They are branches of the government now. As such they are PUBLIC.
So, according to your position, the owner of the Masterpiece Bakery in Colorado doesn’t have to bake a wedding cake for a couple of homosexuals. Great. Tell that to the vermin who took him to court, cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars, and tried to ruin his life.
You Libs want it both ways: Heads you win, Tails we lose.
No business should be forced to do business with anyone or in any manor they do not want to. If you stand on a principal, you need to do 100% of the time, not just when it suits you.
If someone wants to mandate masks in their establishment, and I don’t like it, I am free to spend my money elsewhere. But to act like an ass and cause a ruckus because you don’t want to follow the rules makes you no better than a an uncivilized African.
Hilarious. Thanks for the insult, Jdog. In the last year, I’ve been in well over 50 confrontations. Of those, only twice have the cops been called. So…48ish times I was successful. Also, in all those times I’ve only had ONE man come to my defense! ONE! He was a doctor!!!! Most people either stared or went about their own business. I had some approach me after the fact and quietly said they agreed with me….why the hell they didn’t join me in the moment is probably because they think like you…weak.
How the hell do you think we’re ever going to get past this?! It’s people like you who are perpetuating this madness. Oh, let me guess, we’re going to vote our way out of it, right? I’m willing to put myself into all kinds of legal trouble for your dumbass freedoms and you don’t even deserve it. Effing pansy sheep.
So long as you are on your own property, or on the streets, you can do whateverthephuck you want. But when you go into a private business, you do not have the right to impose your values on the people who actually own the business any more than you have a right to tell your neighbor what they have to do in their own house. If you don’t like that, then I guess you just have to get your panties in a bunch.
You phucking dipshits think you are standing up for rights when you are really just a different form of communist democrat trying to impose your values on others. So you made an asshole of yourself 50 times. Good for you. You proved the point.
Baaah
Uncivilized African, that sounds racist! Money talks, that’s the whole purpose of business!
There is no such thing as racist. It is a liberal fabrication. There is however such a thing as culturalism, and if your chosen culture is offensive and uncivilized, then I am going to call you out on it. Also, if you believe business must grovel for money at the cost of all ethics and morality then “your culture” needs some examination…..
I seldom wear the face diaper and have had very few confrontations. I don’t wear it in Kroger, Lowe’s, Home Depot or Wally World. When I enter a restaurant and they ask me to mask, I put it on with nose exposed but it comes off the minute I sit down and does not go back on. The airplane is the only place I have been forced to keep it on for most of the trip.
If a restaurant doesn’t have the balls to say I don’t have to wear a mask to enter, somehow, I will enter. If not, no patronage for them! Nose exposed, fucking please, I am disappointed in you TN.
when someone else forces the business owner to impose those conditions, it’s not the owner imposing them. it’s the owner being coerced into enforcing someone else’s policy. i own a shop. i dont want face rags in my shop. i dont want to wear one, and i dont want masked customers coming in either. maybe i wanna see the face of who i’m doing business with, whatever. Now if it were truly just private property rights, well then, it would be a competition between me the mask free shop, and the all-masks-all-the-time shop down the road. the face rag crowd would shop there and the free people would shop at my place. that’d be fine because it would indeed be voluntary. now when some goons with a government badge come around and force me to impose mask requirements? that’s not me, and my freedom as owner has just been trampled by the goons. customers? what obligation do they have to respect the goons’ imposition?
I am no more supportive of the government imposing their rules on private business, than I am the dipshits who ignore the rights of a business to impose their own rules. In order for liberty to exist, it must be respected by all parties.
We have had no mandatory mask rules in my state for months, and yet some business owners still require masks. That is fine with me. If I do not like it, I am free to go somewhere else. In the case where employees must face hundreds of customers a day, or thousands a week, I can see why they would want to reduce their exposure as much as possible.
The mask box even states it does not stop any virus. So why would you state it reduces exposure? Hypocrite.
Liar.
Masks are pointless other than bending someone to your will.
Next you’ll tell me that the unproven and harmful vaccine is necessary to prevent the flu.
“that’s not me, and my freedom as owner has just been trampled by the goons”
That’s true. This isn’t about property rights unless the owner decides for themselves that they want to require masks (and before the mandates NOT ONE did)
Jdog,
You missed the fucking point Eric made. The owners are being FORCED to do this. Let the property OWNERS decide what to do with their OWN property and you would not see these fucking signs. Read.
Agree.
In NJ where I live if a business owner flagrantly resists mask mandates the Governor himself gets the bureaucracy to smother you.
Wildwood? Atilis Gym?
Take the Jab and get a free beer from participating craft breweries. It’s on the a-hole Governor’s TwatterFeed along with a list of the participating lickspittle brewers who need the State sanctioned advertising.
To hell with them. It’s not truly a free market anymore, it’s a form of government controlled “kickback” capitalism where the Vampire state sustains itself at the cost of small business owners.
Maybe where you live, but not everywhere. Like I said, were I live we have not had mandatory masks for months, but we still have individual businesses that require them. That is their right.
If you live somewhere where the liberals are in charge, and you are facing tyranny, then I would question your commitment to liberty to begin with. You do have options.
It is their right to say you have to fuck someone up the ass to enter? NO!
Did your parents have any non brain damaged children?
Pretzel logic dude.
What if the business owner said you had to wear Nikes to enter? Or had to keep your left hand in your pocket?
You don’t find it ridiculous that a bank or a jewelry store might require a mask to enter?
You missed the point of the article here. You are correct in a free market the business owner could require whatever mask he wanted and nobody should be able or what to say shit about it. But in a free market there would be another store that would choose not to require masks or even better not to allow them. These competing ideas would both rise or fall according to the whim and choices of their customers.
The problem Eric is pointing out is that since everyone has been coerced into this requirement there is no choice and there is no knowing what the actual choice of any business would have been. Not only are you forced into compliance by the compliance of the merchants, you can’t even be sure if they are willing participants whom you would like to forgo doing business with or if they are going along to get along and keep their business open.
That isn’t America, that isn’t even Nazi Germany, at least there the Jews that were still living in the cities had their ghetto where they could continue being themselves until the time came to move them out of the cities of Germany.
Before anyone decides to jump on my verbiage about the circumstances of moving them out of the cities lets remember that Jews have been expelled from 109 different countries throughout their history and before there was any final solution in a camp there were countless offers made to expatriate them to many places. All of these efforts were sabotaged by the people who had the formation of Israel as a nation as their only priority, and they knew well the propaganda value of suffering. Germany and Britain both had plans and offers to get European Jews out long before they were dying in concentration camps. Israel’s response says all you need to know about them:
Chaim Weizmann, the first “Jewish statesman” stated:
“The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important.”
Weizmann’s cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation,
“One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe”.
and the whole point is that it’s not respecting private property when some third party (liek the govt) steps in and forces the ‘private’ owner to impose conditions.
if the owner himself says ‘nobody comes in my store unless hes wearing a sombrero’ then thats perfectly legit , either i wear a sompbrero or i just dont go there. but if someone comes in and forces the owner to demand it, that’s a violation of the owner’s rights to decide what goes and does not go on his premises.
This is a large part of why I support Georgism.
Let’s take two nations. Nation A has food, nation B has iron, no other source is available for either good. If we respect national sovereignty, A is almighty and B will quickly be owned by A. Of course, this is ridiculous, B should obviously just use their iron and win a war if A threatens to cut off their food supply. It’s to the point where any system that recommends B to roll over and die is ridiculous and must be corrected.
Realizing that A did not create their rich farmland, but merely happened to be on top of it, and that the iron meteor that fell from space was not at all B creation, but that some men merely gathered where the iron fell, goes a long way to resolving these issues. Many libertarians want everything to be owned, I complain that-
A- It doesn’t make sense. 99.99999999% of all resources are completely natural.
And
B- It gives an incredible first mover advantage. To a degree, moving quickly is good, so we do want to incentive this, but when the second party didn’t even exist when the land was “homesteaded” this becomes blatantly ridiculous, and I completely reject any logic that demands we should be slaves for life because someone thousands of years ago happened to plant a flag or put up a fence somewhere.
Furthermore, in the worst case, homesteading can encourage insane inefficiency. Destroying natural resources harms everyone else. It’s basically a form of pollution. When someone uses three barrels of oil to drill up four barrels of oil, this is not a good thing. Sure, we’re getting oil, sure as long as the natural supply holds out, it’s free money, but you’re destroying 75% of the wealth of the land. If you just slowed down and drilled efficiently, we’d all be better off.
With that said, I state this same logic applies to business in general. It’s fairly easy for a few bourgeoisie to collude and create random insane laws and provisions, and then use control of channels to enforce them.
My complaint, is that the bourgeois are in the way. People are not naturally dependent on supermarkets, roads, etc., we were all just fine before they came along.
The opposition might now argue that subsistence living is still possible. I’ll immediately reply that life is competitive. Specifically, and beyond else, if the enemy gains sufficient advantage, they’ll kill you. Literally. They’ll pass a law, or whatever, gather men with guns, and shoot you, and there will be nothing you can do to stop them, because while they were running factories and oil refineries and bio laboratories, you were subsistence farming.
Adding to that, hunter gatherer, was Easy. Anyone could do it, and they were typically rich and well off. The fact that, if you’re good at it, you can scrape by, not that your group at large could do so at scale, does not prove the same tactics that worked before the bourgeois came, still work.
The justification that the bourgeois can give for their existence, is only that they compensate for getting in the way, by providing a product. The non-aggression principle really doesn’t work on its own, because anything and everything IS aggression. It is only starts to become viable once compensation is accounted for. Yes, Bob caught a fish. Yes, you could have caught it had Bob not done so. But, now you can buy fish. As long as both sides are willing to trade, have minimum access to capital, and respect the other’s rights, both sides benefit from the other’s existence. On the other hand, if any of three conditions are violated, the sides are harmed be the other, and have every right to, and SHOULD, kill the other side.
Yep and the people have the right not to shop there.
Normally I’d agree with your statement but surely you can see that private business mask mandates have been established due to government coercion not just a choice of the business. If a business is benefiting financially by covertly doing the bidding of a tyrannical, out of control government should they still have the total protection of being considered private? Airlines were “permitted” to continue operating with approved government restrictions, the major store chains were “allowed” to remain open while small businesses were tyrannically shut down. There are exceptions to most rules and common sense needs to come back into play.
Mask mandates are idiotic, no true science behind them. I’ve ignored them and their demanders since the beginning. Way past time to push back against the enemies of individual freedom AND their enablers.
+100
Well said. I refuse to comply. Bring on the cops if necessary. In fact, it’s already happened to me twice. I will make a big deal if anyone requires me to cover my face (like we’re in the Middle East!) in order to buy necessities! I will go nuts on anyone who refuses to serve me because I’m unvaxxed.
Abigail has cajones, well maybe not literally, but I love that. I too am willing to be arrested.
I do save money for bail that I’m expecting to need at some point in the future. LOL.
-Abigail (not sure why it post as anonymous)
The masks change interactions on a visceral level. Everyone knows this to be true. It is quite obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together that the mask mandates have made everyone not only anonymous, but enemies.
The body language of the mask wearer changes. It may not be readily perceptible, but is is there for anyone to see.
And my experience has been that if I refuse the mask, or laugh it off, then the others around me will sag in relief and take theirs off and agree this is all nonsense.
But there are those that actually stand straighter, and take the pose of a soldier, and state emphatically “You NEED to wear a mask!!!!!”
These are the ones we need to be afraid of, for they lack any sense of self, any individuality. They are happy, nay content even, to go along with the herd.
These poor folks have gone their entire lives with no purpose. Zero direction. They have been empirically unhappy with themselves, their accomplishments or lack thereof.
They cannot form a cogent argument in favor of anything they believe, because they believe NOTHING.
They are the types of people who would fondly wish to become permanently disabled, so as to collect SSDI, and food stamps, and fuel assistance, dithering away their days watching soap operas and the view, eagerly ingesting the nightly news for whatever they are supposed to believe.
Yet they also smoke cigarettes, and take multiple pharmaceutical concoctions for pain or some mental dysphoria.
They value their lives only as much as they can have a flat screen TV, heat, and some junk food. They whisper words against their neighbor yet practice the same “malfeasance” just on the down-low.
Their marriage is either over or loveless. They have no loyalty to neighbor or friend beyond convenience.
If they are upper middle class, they are typically women. Women who are in sexless marriages with teenage or very young twenty-something daughters. Who they try to live vicariously through.
These young women are twisted and corrupted by the very people who are supposed to guide them in life.
Anyone who doesn’t question the narrative should be suspect. EVERYONE.
Last week, my step daughter kept telling me “it’s the law”, but she could not tell me if it was really a law or if it was a dictatorial edict from a politician/bureaucrat.
BTW- your description nailed her, except she is divorced after getting out of the loveless marriage.
But there are those that actually stand straighter, and take the pose of a soldier, and state emphatically “You NEED to wear a mask!!!!!” I stand straighter and taller when I don’t where a mask. Maybe that’s why no one bothers me when I have my don’t fuck with me face on.
You won’t believe what Mayor DeBlowmeo is pushing now. Well maybe you will. Vaccination stations, the J&J Shit Shot, all throughout NYC for …………………… TOURISTS!!!
“It makes sense to put mobile vaccination sites where the tourists are. That is good for all of us that they get vaccinated. It’s good for them, it’s another reason to be here and know you’re going to be taken care of.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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https://nypost.com/2021/05/06/de-blasio-wants-nyc-to-start-vaccinating-tourists/
Fk that Shit
Sickness, as he gets his saline shot on TeeVee.
I will never forget the horror I felt at being the only one without a mask in Costco. It was a busy day and, in line, I looked out over a sea of masked faces. I felt physically sick.
It changed my views forever.
I always just ignored the signs and only was kicked out of Costco later (last fall) as they kept changing their policy.
I think it’s important to never wear a mask unless you really have to for serious reasons, then under protest. If you are flying and complying, knowing how stupid it is (taking it off to eat and being totally ineffective) know you are submitting to their humiliation ritual and it does have consequences.
I know many who wore them to be nice (because others were afraid) and could not be convinced of this faulty reasoning. Many of them will probably get the kill shot for the same reason, and ‘to keep their job’. What wouldn’t you do to ‘keep your job’? Those poor drs and nurses who would starve if they protested. At what point can it be defended, even if understood and sympathized with?
I know it’s judgmental but it also the truth and that sea of faces convinced me of the truth of reading history, literature, and mostly the Bible.
Yesterday a friend was saying how there’s no way people wouldn’t rise up with gun control, and I thought of that sea of masked faces, and people riding on airplanes, submitting, just to go to the beach.
This is interesting. I saw the headline and thought, yeah right, however it seems to have the same properties (except more) of hydroxy and ivermectin.
Pine needles
SURAMIN, THE FRUIT OF EARLY MEDICINAL CHEMISTRY
When suramin was introduced for the treatment of African sleeping sickness in 1922, it was one of the first anti-infective agents that had been developed in a medicinal chemistry program. Starting from the antitrypanosomal activity of the dye trypan blue, synthesized in 1904 by Paul Ehrlich, Bayer made a series of colorless and more potent derivatives. Molecule 205 was suramin (Fig. 1), synthesized by Oskar Dressel, Richard Kothe, and Bernhard Heymann in 1916. Sleeping sickness (also known as human African trypanosomiasis [HAT]) was at the forefront of research at that time, not a neglected disease as it is today, and the development of suramin was a breakthrough for the emerging field of chemotherapy.
Now read the following paragraph within the subtitle (Too) Many Targets in the 100 Years of Suramin PDF to understand its antidote properties to the spike protein contagion (derived from the mRNA that gives instructions to replicate a spike protein in other cells):
Suramin further decreases the activities of a large number of enzymes involved in DNA and RNA synthesis and modification: DNA polymerases (103, 104), RNA polymerases (103, 105, 106), reverse transcriptase (18, 103), telomerase (67), and enzymes involved in winding/ unwinding of DNA (107, 108) are inhibited by suramin, as well as histone- and chromatin-modifying enzymes like chromobox proteins (109), methyltransferases (110), and sirtuin histone deacetylases (111)
This is medical-speak for inhibiting the inappropriate replication and modification of RNA and DNA.
This comment in the PDF also reveals Suramin’s ability to inhibit micro-clots:
Suramin also showed inhibitory effects against components of the coagulation cascade (71, 130)…