What Will You Do When Inflation Forces US Households To Spend 40% Of Their Incomes On Food?

Authored by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

Did you know that the price of corn has risen 142 percent in the last 12 months?  Of course corn is used in hundreds of different products we buy at the grocery store, and so everyone is going to feel the pain of this price increase.  But it isn’t just the price of corn that is going crazy.  We are seeing food prices shoot up dramatically all across the industry, and experts are warning that this is just the very beginning.  So if you think that food prices are bad now, just wait, because they are going to get a whole lot worse.

Typically, Americans spend approximately 10 percent of their disposable personal incomes on food.  The following comes directly from the USDA website

In 2019, Americans spent an average of 9.5 percent of their disposable personal incomes on food—divided between food at home (4.9 percent) and food away from home (4.6 percent). Between 1960 and 1998, the average share of disposable personal income spent on total food by Americans, on average, fell from 17.0 to 10.1 percent, driven by a declining share of income spent on food at home.

Needless to say, the poorest Americans spend more of their incomes on food than the richest Americans.

According to the USDA, the poorest households spent an average of 36 percent of their disposable personal incomes on food in 2019…

As their incomes rise, households spend more money on food, but it represents a smaller overall budget share. In 2019, households in the lowest income quintile spent an average of $4,400 on food (representing 36.0 percent of income), while households in the highest income quintile spent an average of $13,987 on food (representing 8.0 percent of income).

Needless to say, the final numbers for 2020 will be quite a bit higher, and many believe that eventually the percentage of disposable personal income that the average U.S. household spends on food will reach 40 percent.

That would mean that many poor households would end up spending well over 50 percent of their personal disposable incomes just on food.

At one time that would have been unimaginable, but now everything is changing.  As I noted above, the price of corn his increased 142 percent since this time last year…

Corn prices have jumped roughly 142% over the past year to $7.56 per bushel, the highest price seen in eight years for the crop.

A drought in Brazil and increased demand in China have put pressure on global suppliers.

In other areas we are seeing more moderate inflation, but overall we just witnessed the largest increase in food inflation “in almost nine years”

The average prices in March of 2021 for pork chops and chicken breasts are both up more than 10% compared to March of 2020. Eggs and cheddar cheese are both up 6%.

Looking at all consumer goods as a whole, the latest inflation data in the Consumer Price Index from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the largest month-to-month increase in almost nine years.

Meanwhile, the price of lumber just continues to shoot even higher.

In New Jersey, one man says that the total cost of lumber used in building his new home will reach $70,000

Tom McCarthy can’t finish building a home in Bergen County, New Jersey because of the lumber shortage.

“There are pieces of wood that we can’t find,” said McCarthy, a real estate broker with the Chen Agency who also builds homes with his father on the side.

McCarthy estimates the cost of lumber for the home will hit $70,000, nearly double the cost of building the exact same home in a nearby town just eight months ago.

Isn’t that nuts?

Instead of building a new home, you could try buying an existing one instead, but real estate prices in many areas have gotten completely insane.

In northern California, one house recently sold for more than a million dollars over listing price

When a house in Berkeley sold for more than $1 million over its list price in late March 2021, it was covered in media outlets across the Bay Area, including this one.

While the Berkeley sale was particularly sensational — it sold for double its list price and received 29 offers — these individual stories are becoming more common in today’s real estate market, according to recent data and anecdotes from real estate professionals.

I never imagined that I would see such a thing happen.

But one real estate agent says that such wild bidding wars are becoming increasingly common

And that’s especially true in the East Bay. “People are not surprised when a home goes $1 million over,” said Josh Dickinson, the founder of real estate agency Zip Code East Bay. “When my clients see a house for $1.9 million they’re almost conditioned to think it’ll go over $3 million in Piedmont or North Berkeley.”

This is what the beginning stages of hyperinflation look like, but Federal Reserve officials insist that we have nothing to be concerned about.

In fact, Eric Rosengren just told the press that the crazy inflation we are seeing now “is likely to prove temporary”

Boston Federal Reserve President Eric Rosengren in an interview with MarketWatch on Wednesday dismissed talk of scaling back asset purchases as premature, and said temporary factors pushing up inflation this spring won’t last.

“My view is that this acceleration in the rate of price increases is likely to prove temporary,” Rosengren said Wednesday.

Do you believe him?

I don’t.

As Simon Black has pointed out, the federal government is just going to continue to borrow and spend trillions upon trillions of dollars…

This is the big one. The US federal government is hoping to spend a whopping $11 TRILLION this year, between the regular budget, COVID stimulus already passed, and all the new legislation they’re proposing.

And it’s only May.

Obviously Uncle Sam doesn’t have the money. So they have to borrow it.

Almost everybody loved it when the federal government started sending out big, fat stimulus checks.

But you aren’t going to love it when a cart of food costs you $400 at the grocery store.

Whenever the government hands out “free money”, someone has got to pay for it, and one way we are paying for it is through higher prices.

If you do not believe that this is a major national crisis yet, you will soon, because it won’t be too long before most of the country is loudly complaining about how nightmarish inflation has become.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
May 10, 2021 9:08 am

We will have to eat 40% less………..I guess.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 10:04 am

There is a story about a man that kept cutting the rations to his dog because he was eating to much. At one point the ungrateful dog died. At some point you have to face reality before it is to late to do anything about it.

brian
brian
  oldtimer505
May 10, 2021 10:11 am

Would have been a happier ending if the dog turned on the problem and ate the man.

oldtimer505
oldtimer505
  brian
May 10, 2021 4:21 pm

Like most dogs all they want to do is get along. However, I agree, it would be nice to have the dog eat the ass-hat.

Rooftop
Rooftop
  oldtimer505
May 10, 2021 4:16 pm

I’ll be using the last of my energy to take a few overlords to their destiny.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Rooftop
May 10, 2021 6:27 pm

Yeah, good luck with that.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 10:09 am

Or grow twice as much of our food.

Ken31
Ken31
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 10:41 am

That would be on the lesser end of American achievements, if we did it, so I think it would be quite possible. Fallow fields are part of strategic planning. There are millions upon millions of unused or underutilized agricultural or potential agricultural lands.

See, all we gotta do is pull everyone out of the cities and drop them in the middle of the country and it will all work out.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 11:03 am

Leave them in the cities and put walls around them. I have trippled my garden space this year and am still tilling more.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 11:57 am

This.

They already dump ‘refugees’ and ‘immigrants’ on us, but the day they start shipping city people to the countryside…

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 12:00 pm

Most of the refugees/illegal aliens are being placed in cities and towns, not the countryside.

Ken31
Ken31
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 12:31 pm

It was supposed to be a weak allusion to Pol Pot.

flash
flash
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 1:14 pm

This is no profit in sending city rats to the sticks. They don’t have the skills the deep state demons need to feed their hunger for profit and gain. Walls will go up to prevent the unproductive from escaping their carefully created sap trap. See the Agenda 21 map posted up above for reference.

I’m, holdin on, with all I got
I see the world keep turnin, fires keep burnin down
We’re all, holdin on with all we got
Tryin to poison all the water, make porno stars of your daughters in town
Better wake up, you oughta stop messin around
Quit pretendin like the motherfuckin walls ain’t crumblin down

Rooftop
Rooftop
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 4:18 pm

Them immigrants make terrific fertilizer. According to a friend.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Rooftop
May 13, 2021 11:35 pm

But you run them through your gut first…

flash
flash
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 1:02 pm

Apparently that was always the plan. #HenryLambWarnedUS RIP
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Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
May 10, 2021 1:39 pm

It started over 7,000 years ago. This is the final act.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 3:38 pm

Curtain call for the villain in 1,000 years.

mark
mark
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 3:36 pm

Wise move.

Dobbsfan
Dobbsfan
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 10:51 pm

Me too. And plan to increase garden 2 this fall.

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 2:53 pm

Ken, Seems to me that a man known as Pol Pot (Also Lon Nol?) tried that in Cambodia/Kampuchea a few decades ago. As I recall, it did not work out well for anyone, so be careful what you wish for or joke about. It CAN happen here.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Brian Reilly
May 13, 2021 11:40 pm

I think the first killing fields will be in the urban jungles for the USA instead of the countryside; but most of the rats won’t get far from the burning urban dumps though.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 3:15 pm

So, I have a friend that goes to the local food bank. Today she showed up with four gallons of milk, 200lbs. of frozen scrambled egg mix, 20 lbs of potatoes, two bags of onions, chicken patties, canned goods, cheese and a ten pound tub of pasta salad. Four dozen eggs. That’s what I remember off the top of my head.

There is no food shortage, prices will go up because your cash ain’t nothing but trash thanks to printing presses making money from thin air. Then you have the lumber price increases, not due to shortages but rather, due to lumber companies price gouging. Artificial shortages to create inflated prices and demand.

I am signing up for the food bank. What I don’t eat I’ll share and the rest becomes food for the animals. She gave me a ten pound bag of carrots which I will ferment…

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 3:28 pm

Good on you MyGirl – we have similar situations here in UK. So much can be done to economise on our outlandish wasteful ways.

I remember the war and rationing – Oh and BTW – not too many obese people then either. I still have the recipes – you can make cakes out of carrots!

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Austrian Peter
May 10, 2021 4:00 pm

Carrots are wonderful. You can shred them and make a carrot ferment and flavor it with ginger, garlic, dill or whatever you have on hand. Carrot cake is a staple, here in the south we make it with raisins and nuts and pineapple and I use honey as the sweetener. Carrot bread, carrot muffins and a carrot salad made with raisins, nuts and apples and a touch of cinnamon.
Damn, now I’m hungry:)
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Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 4:17 pm

Me too! Brilliant – you know much more than my long lost mother – bless her heart – she worked very hard during the war to keep us all well fed.

Rooftop
Rooftop
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 4:19 pm

Okay, Forrest 😁

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Rooftop
May 10, 2021 5:48 pm

Carrot jambalya, carrots jubilee, fried carrots, boiled carrots, carrots flambe, raw carrots, carrots au gratin, scalloped carrots, carrots in aspic….
Now, ask me about potatoes…:)
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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
May 11, 2021 1:04 am

Ok, Bubba…

flash
flash
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 5:47 pm

I uses carrot along with caraway seed and red onion in my cabbage ferment…also known as sauerkraut.

flash
flash
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 5:44 pm

Take what you can use and leave the rest. Sound advise.

Ken31
Ken31
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 10:38 am

If it is 40% less corn and soy then we will all be better off. Although from a food production standpoint those are good crops for converting disgusting vegetable matter into tasty meat. As much as I admire HF, I am not sure we can feed an advanced country on slop fed meat.

I don’t think grains were ever an ideal food for humans.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 3:23 pm

Grains have been feeding humans and animals just fine for centuries. Beer and bread were staffs of life and what the Bible called meat (food) was often the seeds of grasses. What we have now are frankenstein grains covered in glyphosate, grown in chemical fertilizers and sprayed with pesticides. Those aren’t good for much of anything…

flash
flash
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 5:50 pm

Not to mention Atrazine which may be one reason males are so faggoty today.

Atrazine, one of the world’s most widely used pesticides, wreaks havoc with the sex lives of adult male frogs, emasculating three-quarters of them and turning one in 10 into females, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, biologists.

The 75 percent that are chemically castrated are essentially “dead” because of their inability to reproduce in the wild, reports UC Berkeley’s Tyrone B. Hayes, professor of integrative biology.
https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  flash
May 10, 2021 10:26 pm

That is just purely transphobic.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  ILuvCO2
May 14, 2021 1:48 am

The frogs are non-binary. xe/xir/xirs

Rooftop
Rooftop
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 4:21 pm

I’m in corn land. Gave up soy decades ago, when mysteriously I began to get in touch with my previously unknown ‘feminine side’.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Rooftop
May 10, 2021 5:59 pm

Gave up soy decades ago, when mysteriously I began to get in touch with my previously unknown ‘feminine side’.

Yup, excessive soy consumption has created a group of men (and women) who seem incapable of keeping their mouths closed, they are usually photographed with their mouths wide open. It is a disturbing trend and I hope they die out due to inability to procreate.
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oldtimer505
oldtimer505
May 10, 2021 9:17 am

Someone has to pay for all that funny money that is being printed. That money was never FREE. Why is the human race so damn “stupid”? If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you always got. It is that simple. This is not rocket science, why are we the people allowing this to happen? There is no turning back when you commit this form of suicide. Someone is always left holding the bag in one form or another.

anonymous
anonymous
  oldtimer505
May 10, 2021 10:20 am

You’re right OT. We’ve sold our progeny into slavery.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  anonymous
May 10, 2021 12:08 pm

Sure, ‘we’ did. Now explain to me what ‘we’ should have done, since ‘we’ actively ‘sold our progeny into slavery’. I don’t have progeny. I did the right thing and never had a chance. Pray tell what is it that was not done. This is a serious question you folks never answer. Always should outcomes but never the ugly should inputs. Do tell of the inputs that ye and we left undone. The human race is not ‘so damn stupid’, or you would have done something smart. There is an intelligence to decline and being a pest and a virtuous cuck. We call it IYI. Can anyone here finish these silly blue pill sentiments with the substance of action that should have been acted? Or is this just political chick porn?

anono
anono
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 12:50 pm

@Doug. What a self righteous, self pittying pukefest. Deliberately not having kids to save the planet is the right thing? A virtue? Why didn’t you really do the planet a favor and hang your puss filled ass.
The human race is that stupid and while you were lancing that boil you call a heart some of us were doing quite a bit. That we were not heard and often shut down by TPTB does not mean we didn’t take big risks trying to change our course. You apparently were out to lunch and didn’t notice what some of us were doing. I’m not going to tell you a damn thing. You can direct your syphilis ridden fingers to google most of it.
I will at least give you a hint at what we should have done. Google major events of 1910 to 1920.

flash
flash
  anono
May 10, 2021 1:30 pm

Why is Doug the dumbass ? Currently a little over 70% of America is white, with entire northern states, which are overwhelming white, being the most stupid Bolshevik controlled shitheads in the country and southern whites, not far behind. How will adding more white kids to suffer the inevitable engineered collapse of western civilization change a damn thing ? Sounds to me like you’re the idiot.

BTW, Donald Trump is Zionist controlled POS too, but go ahead and trust the plan… warp speed, bruh…watch out for the red flags. though.

anono
anono
  flash
May 10, 2021 1:51 pm

Who said he was a dumbass? I said humanity is that stupid. Who said squat about Trump or trusting the plan. Who said anything about the fatalist BS you posted. Learn to read. I called him and am calling you a barren hearted jerk. You claim to be a Christian. Christians were told by God to marry and procreate and to let him decide when to quit repopulating the earth.

flash
flash
  anono
May 10, 2021 3:14 pm

Dumbass was my polite version of your vitriol filled rant hating on a guy’s decision not to father kids into an inhospitable world gone totally genocidally insane.

There were no Christians in the Torah and there was ample room for the chosen people of God to expand….not so today. . Only an sophist or an biblically ignorant idiot would think it a sin not to have kids.

Put your lights on, bruh…

anonymous
anonymous
  flash
May 10, 2021 3:35 pm

You haven’t a clue about the bible. Stop while you’re behind. There is no reason for Christian marriage if bearing and raising children is not the goal. Anyone telling God it’s too hopeless to have kids is not a Christian which is your right if you don’t want to be one. The Torah was not cancelled by Christ. The only thing that He changed was to write His laws on the hearts of Believers instead of tablets.
Are you God that you know the world is too hopeless for childbearing and rearing?
Are you his consigliere and he asked your advice?
As a bystander it appears he was responding to a vitriolic attack by Doug for something as simple as agreeing with Old Timer.

anonymous
anonymous
  anonymous
May 10, 2021 4:11 pm

11:45​ The Catholic Family is normally, if god allows it, permits it, the large family. A family with many children. Christian England, Christian France, Christian America, must not die for want of children. Must not die Islamized, oh yes. This is a great danger in France especially, and also in your country (America) to die Islamized. Because the only families with many children are Traditionalist families, and Islamic families. It is so in France. And so the Conciliar race is an endangered species. Deo Gratias, I would say. But it is dangerous, the Islamic people are very many, naturally. So only Tradition, only strong convictions are fruitful.

It is a fact that demonstrate it. Liberalism, Conciliarism, lead to sterility. They are sterile. The fruits of Vatican II, it is childless families, dead families. And especially the root of the problem is the new conception of marriage given by Vatican II. It is in Vatican II!
An excerpt from a talk. Not untypical of all christian dogma prior to 1900.

flash
flash
  anonymous
May 10, 2021 6:08 pm

God does not need you or children to be God. He shared his dominion of humans with lesser Gods while taking Israelite as his own. Along with the gods he appointed as rulers, the Israelites, who he commanded, among other things, to go forth and multiply , for his glory, failed him too.
Jesus came to fix all that. I’m glad I had the chance to tell you this. Your purpose now is absolute faith in Jesus , the Christ. God’s people are no longer in competition with those of lesser gods. It is done. Christ came and was resurrected. The laws were filled. Now we await the fullness of the Gentiles. More children are not required.

Psalm 82 (ESV) — A Psalm of Asaph. 1 God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: 2 “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Selah 3 Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” 5 They have neither knowledge nor understanding, they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; 7 nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince.” 8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations!

אֱלֹהִים (ʾĕlōhîm): God, gods, divine beings. Used for gods or divine beings in general as well as for Yahweh.

anonymous
anonymous
  flash
May 10, 2021 7:30 pm

Quit while you’re even further behind. If God didn’t want humans to continue having babies he would have neutered everyone instead of just You, Doug, and Gays.
I’m glad I’m getting a chance to tell you this, God told all humans to be fruitful and multiply. I guess you didn’t get the memo. If Christ cancelled that command where is the proof. This does not include anyone who cannot have kids due to no fault of their own lest you and Doug take even more out of context.
You seem to have too much time on your hands.

Stucky
Stucky
  anonymous
May 10, 2021 7:47 pm

“God told all humans to be fruitful and multiply.”

God said that when there were only TWO humans on the planet, dumbass.

anonymous
anonymous
  Stucky
May 10, 2021 8:05 pm

And???? He hasn’t said to stop has he?

Stucky
Stucky
  anonymous
May 10, 2021 8:21 pm

He hasn’t said jack shit in thousands of years.

Come to think of it, neither have you.

flash
flash
  anonymous
May 10, 2021 8:01 pm

None so blind as those who refuse to see….smh.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
May 11, 2021 1:22 am

flash didn’t say God doesn’t want more babies, he said God is God.

anono
anono
  flash
May 10, 2021 8:12 pm

You dolts are a waste of time.

flash
flash
  anono
May 10, 2021 8:28 pm

Still waiting on an example of what you did to save our Republic, Mr Alligator Mouth.

Rooftop
Rooftop
  flash
May 10, 2021 4:26 pm

I don’t know what ‘official statistics’ indicate, but I’ll never buy that whites are so prolific. They are where I live, but we’re pretty much a welcome exception. In either case, a lot of white people, females of a particular age need to be naked and the production line in full operation.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  flash
May 10, 2021 6:05 pm

Pretty sure US is not over 70% white. Those days have gone. Unless you consider Mexicans white. By memory, black 13%, Asian 5%, Mexican 20%, NA 1%, so white around low 60% and dropping like a rock.

flash
flash
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 7:13 pm

OK… You are right on this one, but seeing how these are government figures ( and they always lie) it may even be lower than 60% … 50% maybe ? IMH, even more reason to not bring kids into this future bloodbath. Good call getting yours out, but the specter of death Chinese invasion is not appealing either,

United States
Population estimates, July 1, 2019, (V2019) 328,239,523
PEOPLE

Race and Hispanic Origin
White alone, percent 76.3%
Black or African American alone, percent(a) 13.4%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a) 1.3%
Asian alone, percent(a) 5.9%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent(a) 0.2%
Two or More Races, percent 2.8%
Hispanic or Latino, percent(b) 18.5%
White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent 60.1%

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US

Llpoh
Llpoh
  flash
May 10, 2021 8:42 pm

Man, I have a good memory! I have been paying attention to demographics for a long time.

With white percentage dropping, and given that a large percent of whites are woke, the odds are that woke whites plus browns plus blacks will overwhelm the “democratic” system.

The demographic march toward minority white is now a dead certainty. Whites should have tended their own crops.

The good news – Oz does not have such demographic issues. So long as we do not get overrun by the Chinese, I prefer our long term outlook. But wokeness is here, too.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 8:51 pm

The good news – Oz does not have such demographic issues.

No but you have the most deadly, most venomous creatures on the planet. Which would you rather have? Brown snakes or brown invaders?

This….
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vs.

This…
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Nevermind…

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 10:33 pm

I will take the snakes, thank you. At least they feed themselves. And only kill a couple of us a year.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
May 11, 2021 1:28 am

Draco lives there in Oz, too..maybe more so than in the US.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 1:20 pm

Regardless what the philosophy groupies think and history will attest, man is not a learning animal, but…but…but…this time is different.

Ecclesiastes 1:9
What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 6:18 pm

I asked a profound question and the strawman family was used. I asked WHAT IS IT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE TO PREVENT THE CURRENT FIASCO?

Is this your best answer?: “Some of us were doing quite a bit.”

If that doing was effective, you were selfish or too stupid to know what (Christian?) winning is. If that doing was ineffective, you were too inadequate to win.

I did not mention Christianity in my comment. I did not know that moral perspective (whatever you make of it) was applicable to my simple question. Does the truth set you free? What is it that was left undone by ‘us’?

The statement of lamentable inaction was made twice with pinache. What inaction? Is in not true that there is no health in thee for not doing what you ought to have done? And what ought you have done?

It’s real easy to say I did not do what I should have done for my personal life to find fault with me and my ‘syphilis ridden fingers’ and my ‘self pittying pukefest’.

Maybe you folks can’t answer my question, yet you FEELZZZ so strongly about it. Why? No introspection? Glad you’re not cultists or vitriolic leftists. Jesus approves of your ignorance of thought and impotence of spirit, I’m sure ’cause faith.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 6:27 pm

What should we have done? We have answered that a million times around here.

No welfare. Zero. Zilch. To anyone or anything. Stampede the politicians by the tens of millions if they try, peacefully of course.
No deficit spending. Stampede.
No foreign wars. Stampede.
No militarised police. Stampede.
Etc.

Everyone knows what we should not have allowed to happen, but as a whole we sat back in full sheep mode and allowed it to happen. We should have gone apeshit at every instance where the govt did just about any damn thing. Just about everything they do is wrong, so it is not hard to understand what should have been protested.

anono
anono
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 6:43 pm

As a whole you and Doug sat back in full sheep mode so you assume I did.

flash
flash
  anono
May 10, 2021 7:20 pm

Is full idiot mode better than full sheep mode ? …asking for a friend.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  flash
May 10, 2021 7:51 pm

You might as well ignore his bratty comments. The libtard-stye projection is obvious. We must allow for trolls professional and amateur.

flash
flash
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 7:19 pm

Hindsight is always 20/20 . None of that was done and the scourge is now upon US. Would more white kids have made a difference? Lest we forget, it was a white Congress that laid US low. Democracy and tolerance are our sins . What must be our final judgment is the great unanswered question.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
May 10, 2021 8:26 pm

You and Doug are a piece of work. Now you have Stucky chiming in on how many kids GOD thinks are enough.
I told Doug and I’ll tell you. I’m not telling you what I’ve lost or what Iv’e done so you can shit all over it. Don’t cast your pearls before the swine. If you were as important as you claim you would have your own show like Jones or Savage instead of pretending to be an intellectual on here.

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 8:35 pm

Go fuck yourself you maggot. Or, go fuck a maggot … I’m sure your dick is small enough.

I never have, and never will, claim that I know what God wants. I’ve never heard his voice, either in a storm or the still of the night. NOT my thing to say what God wants. I leave that to righteous faggots like yourself.

All I did was make an observation.

You are ignorant and should never post here again.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
May 10, 2021 10:34 pm

Damn, Stuck, if all the ignorant bastards quit posting, we won’t have anyone left to bitch slap.

falconflight
falconflight
  flash
May 10, 2021 10:09 pm

A Nefarious Plot and a Nefarious Carrol

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 7:49 pm

Llpoh steps up to the plate (like a man not an anono): “Stampede the politicians by the tens of millions if they try, peacefully of course.”

Now how much coordination does a human stampede require? When in history has there been a human stampede that worked? If you must rely on a sheeple stampede, only sheeple will get stomped.

“We should not have allowed.” Yes, but how?

“We should have gone apeshit” but “peacefully of course.” I don’t understand what going peaceful apeshit means.

I’m not asking a logically difficult question. I am asking an emotionally difficult question. You might call it a spiritually difficult question, though I would suppose Christian theology is clear and not difficult to understand on the Christian answer.

A for effort, but not really an action. Can you imagine General Washington or MLK saying to his followers: We are going to go apeshit. You might say MLK successfully stampeded the politicians, but that is not correct. Everyone antithetical to white-man norms has been coddled and cultivated. MLK was a puppet.

So what could we have done? Yelling at sheeple to stampede would have been fruitless me thinks. Would that work now? Too late for stampedes and apeshit?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 8:34 pm

I told you how. Stampedes have worked throughout history. When people protest in large numbers, they eventually get what they want. Usually it happens fast.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 8:54 pm

Llpoh, I don’t think so. What examples from history? There is a natural law here that is unpleasant. The whole idea of peaceful protest is absurd. No one who lusts for power over others is dissuaded by guaranteed safety. I presume you mean a peaceful stampede. Now if you mean a non-peaceful stampede, that sir, would be a horse of a different color. I am simply trying to move commenters here into reality. The first two comments of this subthread are inane. That is my point. We could have done nothing to stop this. There is not enough WE to do what it would take. WE don’t want to do what it would take. This is not hard to understand, so why is it so hard to understand?

Christians are against mob rule, and so are meticulous at not being a mob, which means no stampede. Christians are against taking the law into their own hands. Then Christians have no say in earthy affairs. If that’s appropriate, so be it, but it does not fix the proposition that we sold our children into posterity. Most Americans wanted this left way or the other.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 10:14 pm

Well, there was this thing in France. And Ghandi. And MLK, may he rot in hell. And the students against Viet Nam.

The list is quite extensive.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 10:41 pm

Llpoh, will you not admit that the Extensive List belongs to a tried and true earthly method?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  'Reality' Doug
May 11, 2021 1:42 am

I would venture to guess “peacefully of course” was written tongue-in-cheek, alluding to MSMs “mostly peaceful protests”…but I don’t want to put words in any posters mouth..

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 7:52 pm

Allowed it to happen? Really? The politicians and law and policy makers didn’t get my permission, they just went ahead and did what they did, I stomped my feet and hollered but to no avail. They went ahead and did what they did and I just sat there and let them do it. I should have used my godlike powers, waved my magic wand and made them obey me. Alas, I failed, it was my fault, mea culpa.

Next time I will climb on my magic unicorn before I use my godlike powers, perhaps that will do the trick? I know I should have protested while doing so but, generally speaking, one short little woman hollering on the sidewalk doesn’t change policy.

flash
flash
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 8:06 pm

You shoulda’ had more children…yeah that’s the ticket…. the’re these two Bolsheviks… Mamma Bolshevik and Papa Bolshevik …

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 8:11 pm

Look woman, I am not questing your status as a human goddess and saint.

You’re answer–if you want to stop and think about it–might be that THERE WAS NOTHING YOU (and ‘we’?) COULD HAVE DONE.

That just might be true, as it seems to be even more true now. What can we do now to stop this fiasco?

How about this question: What would it take to stop this fiasco, then or now?

Let’s play Match Game. I guess ‘prayer warrioring’.

2 Prayer Warrioring 45

I think that’s what General Washington did, or was that MLK?

Then if you get too logical, anyone reading this, then you might reckon the size of the gap between what ‘we’ could have done and what ‘we’ would have needed to do to stop this fiasco.

Or I could take a bong hit of that sheeple smoke up my ass if you’all are so keen on that $#!t.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 8:30 pm

MLK was a proxy warrior for the Bolshevik revolution that brought down our nation. He is no hero to any true American.

falconflight
falconflight
  flash
May 10, 2021 10:12 pm

You mean ‘he’ had no cause? Ironically, Blacks, Inc. now all but call him Uncle Tom.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 8:58 pm
'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 9:19 pm

Which one was anono when he was young?

anono
anono
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 7:00 pm

“Is this your best answer?: “Some of us were doing quite a bit.”
That we were not heard and often shut down by TPTB does not mean we didn’t take big risks trying to change our course. You apparently were out to lunch and didn’t notice what some of us were doing.
You call that a profound question? You call saving the planet by not having kids heroic. Your name says it all.Why didn’t you hang yourself and save us?

flash
flash
  anono
May 10, 2021 7:37 pm

I took risks that ended my career, shithead. I has insider info and was wildly active in local politics and called out powerbroker names that I knew would seek retribution, but I gambled on all my local peers turning against the criminal/political class in favor of truth. That did not happen. I was never totally convinced hard truth would sway what I knew to be the dullard right , but I took the chance anyway and threw all I knew at the public wall and got zilch….deer in the headlights.
The same corrupt people calling the shots then , call the shots now, Nothing has changed. The majority of people are cowards in search of largess and leisure. Expect no truth or justice from them . As we used to say in the military , CYA because no one else will.

WTF have you done IRL besides make a bunch of noise on the internet?

falconflight
falconflight
  flash
May 10, 2021 10:14 pm

Bottom line post. Well said.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  anono
May 10, 2021 7:57 pm

Oh, Mr. Big Risks in the house. Maybe you’re too much of a winner to have taken big risks. Maybe standing on principles you would have lost big like I did. Your brain is out to lunch, and you are proud of it.

Did you take the risk of writing a book for years? Did you take the risk of politically soliciting people door to door? Did you express your sublime political views to your co-workers? Did you get on TV or try to get on TV? Did you confront members of Congress with your concerns?

YOU DID DIDLY!

You can’t give one example.

Why?

Because you are full of shit!

You have zero idea of what ‘we’ could have done, and you have zero idea of what ‘we’ can do now!

But it feelz good to think feel otherwise.

Enjoy your popularity with the TBP sheeple. You are my heroes.

And entertainment.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 10:39 pm

Doug – you have no idea about TBP. Sometimes flash is a hero around here, sometimes he gets filleted. That is how we roll.

That said, I have always found him genuine, and honest, and believe me we have had some real disagreements. You don’t like what he says – fine. But I have no reason to doubt his sincerity.

And wrapping in TBP community as a bunch of sheep will get your ass kicked. Best you not drag us into your little firefight.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 10:57 pm

Llpoh, anono inferred he took ‘big risks’; hence, I called him Mr. Big Risks. Was not referring to my tag team partner.

And I do have an idea about TBP. I see how easily I was forgotten. For some reason I can comment here again, so hello.

mark
mark
  'Reality' Doug
May 10, 2021 11:52 pm

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http://kenpulsmusic.com/pilgrimsprogress63.html

The trials that those men do meet withal,
That are obedient to the heavenly call,
Are manifold, and suited to the flesh,
And come, and come, and come again afresh;
That now, or sometime else, we by them may
Be taken, overcome, and cast away.
Oh, let the pilgrims, let the pilgrims, then
Be vigilant, and quit themselves like men.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  'Reality' Doug
May 11, 2021 12:15 am

Hello. No, you were not forgotten. But you were roping in TBP at large as sheep. That will draw fire, and that was all I was pointing out.

Re conversing with anonymous types, it is hard to talk to people that do not ID themselves in a consistent way. I did not read the anono posts, so I thought you were referring to flash.

I would personally advise giving those types a miss.

You can always have a cheerful, nice debate with me. I am always kind and love alternative views, and welcome any such. Trust me.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
May 11, 2021 12:51 am

anono is his handle, how did you miss it?

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Llpoh
May 11, 2021 1:28 am

Nice to know. Thanks. I am guilty of believing most Westerners are sheeple, even here, and I think that is basically problem #1. I was encouraging introspection. 1+1 must be 2, but somehow not.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  'Reality' Doug
May 11, 2021 1:36 am

Most people are sheep. But far fewer of them are around here. We have a lot of wolves. And damned if wolves don’t fight each other if there are no sheep around. It is in our nature.

We do love a good pack mauling of sheep, too.

anono
anono
  'Reality' Doug
May 11, 2021 12:43 am

Wow. I go out for a few hours for dinner and come back to find Narcissus still staring into his reflection in absorbed adoration.
I’ve told you and your tag team lover Echoflash I won’t give you the satisfaction of trashing my efforts twice now.
I will concede that you are certainly a legend in your own mind.
It must be difficult for you to sleep for fear you’ll miss one of your own compliments and I’m sure it’s hard to sleep in the blinding glorious light of your vanity.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  anono
May 11, 2021 12:54 am

And here we were all so hopeful you had left for good. Guess that you have nothing better to do in mamma’s basement but to eat donuts and type stupid.

And please, don’t lie to us. We are certain you are too fat to drag your bloated ass up the stairs to go out. Most likely you were taking a shit and it took hours to figure out how to wipe your fat ass. Here is a recent pic of anono:

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Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Llpoh
May 11, 2021 12:57 am

Ooooh! Dibs!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
May 11, 2021 3:00 am

All yours.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Llpoh
May 11, 2021 1:30 am

Wow. What a meme!

realestatepup
realestatepup
May 10, 2021 9:33 am

What should be cut out is obvious, and will be:
Soda
Chips
Junk breakfast cereal
packaged snack food
candy
Frozen “convenience” foods
Fast food
These are the food sectors that will go bye-bye pretty quick if you have more than 2 brain cells to rub together.
A regular size bag of chips costs $4.00-$5.00
24 pack of name brand soda cans: $5.99
Family size oreos: $2.99
A family of 4 will buy let’s say 2 bags of chips, 2 24-count sodas, and 2 bags of oreos=
$26 bucks
All crap, all wasted calories, all zero nutrition
Now for the same $26 bucks they can buy:
5 lbs of pork chops ($1.79 per pound on sale)
5 lbs of split chickens ($1.79 per pound on sale)
5lbs of apples ($1.69 per pound on sale)
All with a good nutritional profile, and can most likely be used to make 4 meals (from the meat). IF they meat is portioned out correctly, as Americans eat way, way to much meat per serving.
The apples are good snacks for the kids and adults
Side dishes should be sweet potatoes, $4.39 per 3 lb bag
Broccoli, fresh, $3.29 per lb.
You see where I’m going with this.
I consistently see food stamp beneficiaries buying absolute crap and almost without exception the entire family is overweight and quite frankly looks like shit, with dark circles under their eyes, dry, lank hair, pale skin.
Stop cooking with vegetable oil, which is way too high in Omega 6 fats. The average person eats SEVENTY POUNDS A YEAR. Omega 6’s oxidize easily, and are not good for you.

The Ugly Truth About Vegetable Oils (and why they should be avoided)

Use butter, use coconut oil, use olive oil. Save the bacon drippings and meat drippings.
So. Yes, food prices will rise. Yes, it’s going to get pretty bad. I guess we will have to forgo the chips, soda, cookies, and canola oil.
We will have to learn how to portion, stretch, and eat better.
When it gets really bad, when the meat is gone, the veggies gone, and people are shooting deer in their back yard, then we need to worry.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  realestatepup
May 10, 2021 9:41 am
Ken31
Ken31
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 10:45 am

I have never been to Africa, but if I ever go I am going to point to my belly and say “I did this for you.”

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 9:23 pm

Food is a weapon. Civil wars? So the great white fathers send food to the starving Africans. The food is stolen by the war lords and sold on the black market, none of it makes it’s way to the little children. Que reus est?

Then you have Lenin who fomented revolution on empty stomachs, stating:
With the help of all those starving people who are starting to eat each other, who are dying by the millions, and whose bodies litter the roadside all over the country, it is now and only now that we can—and therefore must—confiscate all church property with all the ruthless energy we can still muster…

When you overpopulate you get famine. When you seek to overthrow regimes you use food as a weapon.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  realestatepup
May 10, 2021 9:46 am

This past week we picked enough dandelions to make five gallons of wine. We also made about five pounds of dandelion root coffee. Been eating the greens for almost a month now. We have been picking fiddlehead ferns, and eating as much as we can and pickling the rest for later in the year. I understand they are getting about $12 a pound in the grocery store- where available. We also started picking and drying wild mushrooms, got about fifteen pounds vacuum sealed and half a dozen jars of garam made. We also got our bag limit on turkey and they’re brining before we smoke them. Fishing season just opened and we have been taking about a dozen trout a week, ate most of them already but will start smoking them from here on out for later in the year. Violets are just about to pop, we candy those as well.

Total cost, nothing.

Allowing ourselves to become dependent on others for something we require daily is so far beyond foolish it’s hard to comprehend. All it takes is for something or someone to shut off the pipeline and you’re screwed.

brian
brian
  hardscrabble farmer
May 10, 2021 10:01 am

All it takes is for something or someone to shut off the pipeline and you’re screwed.

Pipeline!?!?!? In their mind they’ll just take the bus. BUT, if someone shut off the telecom system, no smart phones or internet there’d be riots in hours… zombies wandering aimlessly about.

Ken31
Ken31
  hardscrabble farmer
May 10, 2021 10:50 am

I used to pick them for the old neighbor lady for salad. My dad was telling me about someone we might know that poached a Tom. I asked if they are any good to eat compared to the hens. He said “they made turkey nuggets out of it.”

I did not know you can eat fiddleheads. I am having a hard time believing dandelion wine would be palatable. That seems like a stretch. Those are the things I am happy to be wrong about.

Why do I get the sense that it has been much nicer up there than it has been down here in the Midwest. I like hearing about how much simplicity you are finding in your life. It is both inspiring and affirming of my suspicions.

flash
flash
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 1:46 pm

Another heads up. You can get all the Vitamin C you need from pine needles and fat from inner tree bark. It’s called cambium, but take heed, if you take the bark off completely around the tree , you will kill it. This is called girdling. Take only small slices , and even this can damage the tree’s health due to sap seepage, which attracts a host of harmful insects.

BTW, you can starve to death eating fat free protein , e.g. rabbits. It’s happened. Fat is necessary to digest the protein, hence the cambium tip.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 7:30 pm

Dandelion wine made properly is excellent, like ice wines. And fiddleheads are like an early version of green beans. We love ’em.

I’m sure that part of our enjoyment is the fact that we’re doing this ourselves on our own land, in season. When you eat or drink something you produce or forage yourself you enjoy that part of it too, the fact that you had a hand in it.

And the zero cost part, that makes it taste better too.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
May 10, 2021 11:59 am

How much do the licenses cost for turkey and fishing?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 12:08 pm

Google is your friend. New Hampshire game licenses.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 12:27 pm

Fishing is $45, hunting a little less. If you do it on your own property, no license required.

Yahsure
Yahsure
  hardscrabble farmer
May 10, 2021 1:09 pm

If it gets this bad people won’t be buying a license.

flash
flash
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 1:47 pm

It depends . Do you want it in lead or steel ? I prefer lead.

psbindy
psbindy
  hardscrabble farmer
May 10, 2021 4:42 pm

Good on ya HSF. You put yourself in an enviable position. Most of what you do is closely related to what life needs.

I’m like most Americans, far removed from my own life’s requirements.

If we have the time before the one world govt starts herding us into the soyent-green factories I hope to make a July Fourth gathering at your place. Maybe 2021. That seems a long way off to hope we’ll still be allowed to travel relatively freely.

Good luck to all of us.

Ken31
Ken31
  realestatepup
May 10, 2021 10:44 am

It is so strange how I lose weight every time we stop eating out and stop buying frozen/convenience foods.

It is hard to get fat on home cooking. Probably because when your body gets what it needs it doesn’t tell you that you are hungry. Because you aren’t.

gmpatriot
gmpatriot
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 1:10 pm

Not my wifes home cooking, LOL

RayK
RayK
  realestatepup
May 10, 2021 11:16 am

No, what you cut is .gov. We only need about 10% of what they are doing to us.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  realestatepup
May 10, 2021 3:37 pm

Wonderful – fabulous advice. Although in Britain we are a little less glutinous, we do have similar problems and junk food. Lots of people have no idea how to cook good fresh food – it’s too convenient to eat-out-in or just buy prepackaged. It will end though and they will learn as the depression deepens – necessity is the mother of invention – nothing truer.

flash
flash
  realestatepup
May 10, 2021 9:19 pm

Eat more meat because carbs make you fat, not that any of the fat people, duly noted, eat poisoned meat too.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 10, 2021 9:46 am

The dollar went from .01 to sub penny in the last year with 1913 as a benchmark. That’s what’s been happening while we focused on Covid, elections, and riots.
We are somewhere in the .010-. Where is anyone’s guess.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 9:59 am

In 1975, a full size candy bar at Piggly Wiggly was 8 cents. A smaller bar is now $1.89.

DFJ150
DFJ150
May 10, 2021 9:54 am

“A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not harm the oil and the wine” Revelation 6:6. Scarcity and high cost of the staples of life, and an abundance of luxury items available that most cannot afford. Whistling past the graveyard as we roll into the end times.

anonymous
anonymous
May 10, 2021 9:56 am
mark
mark
  anonymous
May 10, 2021 3:47 pm

The guys Fed/market prediction rate is 99.9% correct the last five years.

He get a little loony…now and then but as a trader (I’m not one) he is amazing.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 10:09 am

It will be interesting to see how much of an increase is given to those on SS. I am guessing, it will be in the 2 1/2% range, even though inflation is ripping along in double digits.

Rusty Pipes
Rusty Pipes
May 10, 2021 10:10 am

Soylent green is a renewable resource.

Quiet Mike
Quiet Mike
May 10, 2021 10:16 am

Eat more possum.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Quiet Mike
May 10, 2021 10:19 am

Opossum’s are very beneficial in the amount of insects, including ticks, that they eat every day. Coons are much fatter and provide a lot more protein.

anonymous
anonymous
  Quiet Mike
May 10, 2021 10:21 am

Possum’s get smarterer as they get scarcerer.

Rusty Pipes
Rusty Pipes
  Quiet Mike
May 10, 2021 10:59 am

Oh, “possum.” Glad I re read that, although my wife is disappointed.

Ghost
Ghost
  Quiet Mike
May 10, 2021 11:26 am

Nick killed one the other day and I burned it on the trash pile with some dried brush we’d cleared. I can assure you there seemed to be lots of meat on that critter and it didn’t smell half-bad.

If I was hungry, it would not be burned in the trash heap.

(And, then, thrown into the gulley for the carrion eaters to do their part in the cycle.)

flash
flash
  Ghost
May 10, 2021 2:29 pm

Why’d Nick kill it? Possums can provide a lot of fun.

For example, when my young wife and I had first married, she was soaking in the tub one dull summer afternoon and I , idling away on the front porch, happened to spy a fat possum making his way amongst the mature pines. Overcome with inspiration, I quickly caught the hissing possum by the tail. took him in the house and flung him in the bathroom, closing the door behind me . I’m telling you, extreme hilarity ensued.

BTW, snakes are even more entertained. You city folks need to learn to live with nature , instead of unnecessarily killing it…frogs included.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  flash
May 10, 2021 6:07 pm

then you loaded up the truck, and you moved to Beverly… Hills, that is.

flash
flash
  Iska Waran
May 10, 2021 7:42 pm

Naw, I’m still on the same property , different buit- by-my-hands-house; the old farmhouse is gone…got AC now , but still no dishwasher though …can’t have everything , I guess, but what I do have was paid for 30 years ago.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  flash
May 10, 2021 7:57 pm

flash,
how many wives ago was that?

flash
flash
  TampaRed
May 10, 2021 9:33 pm

Same and only one…nearly 40 years now. Her daddy was a chicken farmer so she’d been knee deep in chicken shit so nothing I could throw at her would faze her even the slightest. Her Zen is so strong she’d make Buddha look like a raving neurotic.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  flash
May 10, 2021 10:40 pm

Best leave Oz snakes the fuck alone. They ain’t funny, no sir.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Ghost
May 10, 2021 3:45 pm

Sigh, possums eat their weight in ticks and other vermin. They eat slugs and mice. They kill and eat rats. They eat snakes. Killing a possum makes no sense. Too many people kill too many critters and then complain about mosquitoes, ticks, frogs and snakes. What is with this blood lust and need to kill harmless animals?
If you have horses then you can have concerns about possums because they can carry EPM. Best to trap and release possums and, if you’re killing frogs because of snakes? Possums are…

…the only animals that cannot carry rabies virus in them because their body temperature is too low for the rabies virus to survive in them.

Apart from having a capable immune system, possums are naturally resistant to snake venom. They have a peptide in their blood that’s capable of countering the snake venom if bitten.

Having possum in your backyard will keep snakes away which is going to be beneficial especially if you have kids at home.

Machinist
Machinist
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 9:44 pm

Lots of ‘road-kill’ across the Southland.

But, then, why did the chicken cross the road?
To show the possum how it’s done.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
May 11, 2021 2:09 am

Well put, Mygirl.

flash
flash
  Quiet Mike
May 10, 2021 2:18 pm

Possum was once a staple in the Southern diet.

Riding to the job with an old timer I once worked with , I commented on the extraordinary number of squashed possum I was seeing on the road. He said it was a sign of the good times we were living in and went on to explain that when he was a boy, during the great depression, they kept possum dogs and sometimes spent up to 3 weeks hunting for a possum without finding one. This was a sign of bad times.

And this is a major problem with Americans. They can no longer even recognize the signs of good times from the bad. We are all too well fed to starve….reeeee.

What’s mo’ temptin’ to de palate,
When you’s wuked so hard all day,
En cum in home at ebentime
Widout a wud to say,—
En see a stewin’ in de stove
A possum crisp en brown,
Wid great big sweet potaters,
A layin’ all aroun’.

Maggie Pogue Johnson

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Georges S
Georges S
May 10, 2021 10:29 am

Go rob all the anti-guns libturd… They have the money!

Ken31
Ken31
May 10, 2021 10:34 am

The cost of fucking corn stays in this country. Maybe start worrying about why you don’t have any money. That would be the cost of everything not made in this country.

It is not a mystery why corn growing states like the incredibly wasteful practice of turning it into ethanol.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 11:08 am

With all of our natural gas and coal, there is no reason for us to be putting corn based ethanol in our engines, other than a particular corn growing state has the first in the nation primary. CNG powered vehicles are relatively clean and do not consume as much water and energy to produce as ethanol.

flash
flash
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 2:38 pm

Ethanol is a thing because the criminals that control out Congress make it so.

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/01/ethanol-lobby-finds-friends-foes/

“Sen. Grassley’s campaign committee takes contributions that are legal and have no strings attached,” Beth Levine, Grassley’s press secretary, told OpenSecrets Blog. “Sen. Grassley fights for ethanol because it’s good for our national security, it’s good for our environment, and it’s good for good-paying jobs.”
Sens. Kit Bond (R-Mo.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), who all signed onto Grassley’s letter, have each received at least $20,000 to their campaign committees and leadership PACs from these same ethanol-supporting political action committees since January 2005, according to the Center’s research.
And Sens. John Thune (R-S.D.) and Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), who likewise signed the pro-ethanol letter, each received between $10,000 and $15,000 from these interests as well.
Among all pro-ethanol letter-signers, only Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) collected no money from any of these six companies and trade groups. (Brownback is retiring from the Senate in January, having been elected governor of Kansas.)
Like Grassley, Nelson stressed the economic benefits of ethanol in his home state as the reason for his support for the tax provisions.
“Sen. Nelson supports the extension of the ethanol tax credit because it will promote renewable energy, jobs and economic development in Nebraska, the number two corn-producing and number two ethanol-producing state in the country,” Jake Thompson, Nelson’s communications director, told OpenSecrets Blog. “That’s why he wants the ethanol tax credit extended, not because of campaign contributions from either supporters or opponents of ethanol.”

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  flash
May 10, 2021 7:38 pm

The production of Ethanol consumes large amounts of water and also requires more energy to produce than it provides. It will destroy small engines.
The only reason we use it is due to politicians. Buy a group of politicians and you can write your own ticket.

Machinist
Machinist
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 9:46 pm

Besides, ethanol production is racist against our southern border nations.
Less maize based food for them. /s/

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 12:06 pm

Even before that, stop exporting agricultural products (it’s hard to call most of it food though).

Everyone will cry about the starving africans or chinese, but that’s what you get when you feed the wildlife.

flash
flash
  Ken31
May 10, 2021 2:33 pm

My daddy and his folks turned it into moonshine. It brought way more money into the family that corn on the cob ever could. Nevertheless, the corncrib was always full, because the hogs had to eat something besides revenooers sometimes.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  flash
May 10, 2021 7:39 pm

I need to stock up on bourbon. There is no telling how high it will go with the corn price escalating.

flash
flash
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 8:10 pm

Or better yet, build a steel. It’s a family tradition around these here parts.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  flash
May 10, 2021 9:25 pm

I would if I knew how to age it and had enough time to enjoy it after it had been sitting in the barrel for 7 years. Shine is pretty rough on the palette.

Machinist
Machinist
  flash
May 10, 2021 9:51 pm

Steel yourself, yet be still in your heart whilst the still distills.

Pablo
Pablo
May 10, 2021 10:39 am

Grow, gather, hunt, trap, fish.
Can, dry, ferment, freeze (if you trust the grid or have electrical backup).
Adapt, improvise and overcome.

There is a reason people did not have a lot of leisure time back in the day: they had to WORK to EAT.

It is about choices.

RiNS
RiNS
May 10, 2021 10:45 am

When 40% of income is for food, local farmers will have upper once again on producing the food we consume.

Ghost
Ghost
  RiNS
May 10, 2021 11:50 am

If only they owned some seed.

subwo
subwo
  RiNS
May 10, 2021 12:22 pm

I think the farmer will still be on the short end of the stick. The middle men will make out. We read recently and are following Dr. Steven R. Gundry, MD The Plant Paradox. Processed food causes havoc to the immune system and one needs to get them out of their bodies. Lectins cause the damage. Our food cost has gone up 50% this past month as the only protein allowed is pasture raised from start to finished. Not range free, grass fed grain finished, nor A1 milk, only A2. etc. Remember, when you eat something you are really eating everything that they ate. It may prove too expensive to keep onboard. I found his yes and no food lists online.

Dr. Gundry’s Print-Friendly “Yes” & “No” Lists

flash
flash
  subwo
May 10, 2021 8:14 pm

By design of the middle men class, same as it always was.
https://mises.org/library/satans-bushel

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
May 10, 2021 10:54 am

Sell some of my ammo that went up 300 %

Ghost
Ghost
  JIMSKI
May 10, 2021 11:27 am

Dear Lord, I just checked to see what 9mm is going for. Sorry I asked.

flash
flash
  JIMSKI
May 10, 2021 6:13 pm

ammo is the new gold…ha ha ha

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  flash
May 10, 2021 7:43 pm

The former VP must be an alchemist who has figured out how to turn lead into gold. 😂

BL
BL
May 10, 2021 11:46 am

A decade and a half ago I started to prepare for the eventual flame out of the dollar. One must have a Plan A, Plan B and Plan C, then if all else fails there is always beans and rice. Anyone can lay in a supply of dried beans and rice, dehydrated onion and garlic along with other spices and chili peppers for vitamin C. DON’T say you can’t afford a food stash when you just paid that $180 cable bill, this is survival.

If all goes well, I will be eating steak from Amish down the road, it won’t be cheap but it will be affordable. This is when you need your tailhedge of gold and silver, so you can eat and pay your tax bill on your property . Save yourself because no government agency will do it, food banks will be emptied, there will be no help.

mark
mark
  BL
May 10, 2021 3:50 pm

1,000+

Remo
Remo
May 10, 2021 12:32 pm

I’m quite certain that those without jobs whose food I am paying for with my taxes are spending FAR more than I am on food. I have seen them in the grocery store.

flash
flash
  Remo
May 10, 2021 2:59 pm

You’re not paying for anyone’s food, dumbass. The people that create money that make’s it possible for the poor to buy the herbicide, pesticide and preservative poisoned shitfood in the grocery stores makes yours available too. They don’t need you to pay a damn penny. They make it all.

DRUD
DRUD
May 10, 2021 12:40 pm

Crickets….

I don’t mean silence, I mean crickets are a good source of protein. 🙂

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  DRUD
May 10, 2021 6:22 pm

Crickets are bait. You use them to catch fish, the real source of protein.

flash
flash
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 8:15 pm

Good cheap producers of fertilizer too.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  DRUD
May 10, 2021 7:44 pm

You can catch fish with them, too

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  TN Patriot
May 10, 2021 9:06 pm

You can catch fish with them, too

I already wrote that…

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 9:28 pm

Sorry, I replied before getting to your comment. I will give you permission to punish me, Mistress.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  TN Patriot
May 11, 2021 1:04 am

I will give you permission to punish me, Mistress.

Well, alrighty then….what’s your punishment preference.

flash
flash
May 10, 2021 12:53 pm

No change. That’s pretty much what I’m doing now.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
May 10, 2021 3:24 pm

One solution would be to waste less food:
“Each day in the United States approximately one pound of food per person is wasted. This equates to 103 million tons (81.4 billion pounds) of food waste generated in America in 2017, or between 30-40 percent of the food supply, according to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA).25 Aug 2020”

Ain’t gonna happen – but then may be it will if enough people feel the pinch. We reuse everything we can and find we can manage very well on our modest pension in UK: “In the UK, 6.7 million tonnes of food is wasted per year which totals to costs of £10.2 billion each year. This represents costs of £250-£400 per household per year.20 Jan 2021” https://www.cheaperwaste.co.uk/blog/food-waste-the-complete-2020-guide/

KaD
KaD
May 10, 2021 3:28 pm

Well I put in as much garden as I can and I’m growing for maximum produce. I’ll also be looking to the locals, paying cash. http://www.localharvest.org

Rooftop
Rooftop
May 10, 2021 4:15 pm

Finally, the long overdue diet is on the horizon. We’ll be in pretty good shape. What happened to most of history’s dictators who tried to starve their citizens? “Let them eat cake”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 10, 2021 5:01 pm

will local grocery stores allow conceal or open carry in stores. One walks out w/ $200.00 of groceries, your about to become a target. Will grocery stores provide armed security? If a grocery cart rolls across a parking lot and hits your car, its the stores responsibility (they won’t admit that) if your groceries get hi jacked in the lot, will they cover the costs, the damages, the law suites? Obama led tens of thousands to welfare and off the work force, this continuous unemployment project is keeping tens of thousands off the work force. Our grocery carts are going to become very important to those who take what they want.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
May 10, 2021 7:46 pm

There is no need to worry. The grocery stores will have empty shelves.

Llpoh
Llpoh
May 10, 2021 5:38 pm

Americans have lived tens of trillions of dollars beyond their means. At some point, this stupidity will come home to roost. Looks like that point has arrived.

People applaud and cheer the huge deficit spending. It is a cargo cult – money drops down as though from God, with no thought of repayment or consequences.

Well, consequences are arriving.

flash
flash
  Llpoh
May 10, 2021 7:00 pm

During the 60’s and 70’s when I was coming up in a rural small southern town , even people that were amazingly rich, by anyone’s’ standards, did not display their wealth by buying anything that was unnecessary or flashy and blue collar people were even more careful about spending money, mainly because credit was almost nonexistent for them- unless it was local- and mostly paid for everything in cash.

Case in example. An old client of mine, now deceased; owner of a local bank, and as executor of his business partner’s estate paid 50 million in estate tax, would not even buy a new vehicle and drove old fixxer-uppers because he didn’t want to appear rich, because he thought that’s what showboating assholes did. My father-in-law, who was this bankers best friend, after buying a used albeit barely driven Crown Victoria that was really nice soon received anon note in his mailbox saying that he saw my father-in-law driving around town in his flashy new car, which upset the hell out of my paw-in-law. It was a prank or course and my FIL always suspected his best buddy, but the truth never come out until my FIL was buried . Then the truth was admitted to me. I have never seen a man grieve so hard over a friend. He visited his grave and put flags and flowers on it regularly.

But I digress. A scant 20 years later ,teenage boys with no afterschool jobs are driving $60,000 trucks to school, daughter whose main skills is texting and sexting are off on European trips, whilst mom and dad are boozily lounging in their hot tubs, swapping body fluids with their party-hardy neighbors on the decks of the largest McMasions their credit line will afford. We’re all living the American dream. Even public school teachers have 2 homes now. We are the credit nation . And yes, credit is money too.

Frugality , for whatever reason, is not the case today. Every shithead with credit, blue collar or professional, are now making vulgar displays of the wealth via houses, clothes, electronics, cars or vacations .They’re living pre-Soviet invasion of Berlin large. I believe that subconsciously they know that the good times are over and they want to lick the ice-cream cup until there is absolutely no chance any residue flavor is left. Better to burn out than the rust, Johnny Rotten said.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
May 11, 2021 2:21 am

*WE* lived beyond our means? Who actually benefited from that deficit spending? It wasn’t us.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
May 11, 2021 2:59 am

Sure it was. That debt was enjoyed by the entire society – by some more than others. If some $50 trillion or $100 trillion or whatever was not spent, you think it would not have had an impact on the entire society? Living standards across the board were artificially inflated.

We have been living at Y standard of living, when we should have been living at X. We will drop below X at some time, as the bill for Y will come due.

Jim in Va.
Jim in Va.
May 10, 2021 5:49 pm

I’ll have an opportunity to lose 100 pounds and be in good shape when everyone else has starved.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
May 10, 2021 7:31 pm

Keep hunting and fishing like I have been. Panic porn at its best. Plenty of hogs, gators, pythons, deer, bears and whatnot in my area.

flash
flash
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
May 10, 2021 8:17 pm

+100 …gulf states would be paradises sans all the diversity and therein lies the danger.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  flash
May 10, 2021 9:08 pm

There may come a time when the diversity is a food source.

falconflight
falconflight
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 10:22 pm

To be honest, I don’t like dark meat.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  falconflight
May 10, 2021 10:45 pm

Not a problem. There is plenty of degenerate white meat to feed an army.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
May 10, 2021 9:08 pm

Pythons? You eat pythons? Do they taste like gator? What about all the little bones?

flash
flash
  Mygirl....maybe
May 10, 2021 9:37 pm

Gator tail is good eatin’, but as for snake… never been hungry enough to find out, although it could be argued that gator is just a snake with legs.

anono
anono
May 10, 2021 9:35 pm

Doug, Flash and Stucky.
I am genuinely sorry for you. Stucky said he hasn’t heard from God in thousands of years and neither have I
We hear from him every day when he sends another human to say something as beautiful and generous as this regarding children and our purpose here. I am truly truly sorry for you and my sinful wretch of a self will pray for our Lord to soften your hearts. My prayers may not help you but it will help me by making an effort to help someone other than poor old me.

“Pope Paul VI, who lay’s down the Catholic vision of human sexuality in Humanae Vitae:

[A]n act of mutual love which impairs the capacity to transmit life which God the Creator, through specific laws, has built into it, frustrates His design which constitutes the norm of marriage, and contradicts the will of the Author of life. Hence to use this divine gift while depriving it, even if only partially, of its meaning and purpose, is equally repugnant to the nature of man and of woman, and is consequently in opposition to the plan of God and His holy will. But to experience the gift of married love while respecting the laws of conception is to acknowledge that one is not the master of the sources of life but rather the minister of the design established by the Creator. Just as man does not have unlimited dominion over his body in general, so also, and with more particular reason, he has no such dominion over his specifically sexual faculties, for these are concerned by their very nature with the generation of life, of which God is the source. “Human life is sacred—all men must recognize that fact,” Our predecessor Pope John XXIII recalled. “From its very inception it reveals the creating hand of God.”

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  anono
May 11, 2021 1:10 am

Anono ol’ fren: You are the definitive example of sanctimonious self-righteousness. Spare us the unctuous moralizing, it is unbecoming.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 10, 2021 10:19 pm

Eat the people responsible for it?

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TS
TS
May 10, 2021 10:37 pm

Well, most of thee seem to have had some vague clue that things were going to get rocky, and most (many?) of you – by coincidence no doubt, maybe some kind of weird hoarding instinct akin to pack rats – have compiled a pretty solid stash for inclement weather. Many years of battening the hatches is starting to pay off.
The rest… well, playing catch-up can be a pretty bloody game.

And amidst all the typical bullshit are some really good ideas and reminders.

I just got done getting the last bed/containers ready for a big start transfer, probably tomorrow. The frost covers are ready, for 5 round 5′ water tanks that make perfect raised beds, with a 6×3 and a 4×2. My windows are full of starts, and a have several 5 gal. buckets with bigger starts.
All the compost I made last year is bringing a new level to this garden.
Wow, what a co-incidence, hey?

mark
mark
  TS
May 11, 2021 2:17 pm

TS,

Got a bunch of the above in full bloom…they can be moved to south facing sun hit tree lines…hard to see and blend in on my farm…nowhere near the gardens.

Also plant plenty of Sweet Potatoes in the same places (almost time)…their vines are invisible.

Just in case TSHTF this summer will have food hidden in plain sight if any raiders wander in.

Gas from the closed pipeline is almost gone here in my part of the SE. The few gas stations open have long lines. Have three vehicles filled to the brim…and 150 gallons stored…hidden in the woods under tarps in four spots.

Just ordered more Brown Bread in the can…shoot its shelf life is longer than mine…

RedStateWarrior
RedStateWarrior
May 11, 2021 7:26 am

Here is one key to working with food inflation. Corn is the central product that drives the cost of processed food. Most food in boxes, cans and from fast food restaurants are processed. As the price of corn goes up the price of food that relies on corn as part of its production process is bound to go up too. It should also be noted that the energy used to produce food will effect the price of food. If prices go up for the energy needed to grow food and transport it around the world then the end product is going to cost more. Two things to do are to eat food that is produced as close to home as possible. If one can grow some of one’s own produce that would help or buy from local farmers markets. Avoid all processed and junk foods as these are empty calories and are designed to make your more hungry and eat more of them. Eating whole real foods that are unprocessed will give you the biggest bang for your buck and will keep you healthy which will reduce your health care costs. Learn to cook your own food. It is not that hard to follow a recipe. It is something to learn to do while you are locked down at home.