“Herd Immunity Is Not A Possibility”: Dr. Malone Vindicated After Oxford Prof Warns Over New Variants

Via ZeroHedge

In one of the most appalling examples of Big Tech silencing scientists who refuse to withhold their criticisms of the mRNA technology behind the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccines, Dr. Robert Malone, a pioneer who helped develop mRNA vaccine technology, saw the credit for his contribution to medicine effectively erased from the Internet by Wikipedia after he raised concerns about potential long-term autoimmune issues and other complications potentially arising from mRNA jabs.

He has also shared other medical heresies, including the possibility that ‘imperfect’ vaccines might actually help foster more virulent COVID variants due to a phenomenon called ‘ADE’ – antibody-dependent enhancement. Essentially, what doesn’t kill the virus makes it stronger. In retaliation for sharing these views, Dr. Malone was ridiculed by colleagues  as a conspiracist and an “anti-vaxxer”.

Dr. Malone

But earlier this week, Dr. Malone saw his views subtly vindicated by an unexpected source: a British scientist and academic named Professor Sir Andrew Pollard, who is the director of the Oxford Vaccine Group. During a briefing, Sir Pollard warned Parliament that the UK likely won’t ever achieve herd immunity, thanks to the delta variant.

In remarks that risked undermining the government’s vaccination campaign, Sir Pollard, a professor of pediatric infection and immunity, warned Parliament on Tuesday that achieving herd immunity is likely “not a possibility” thanks to variants like delta. Recently, a group of scientists estimated that the threshold for herd immunity might now be as high as 90% due to the delta variant. According to Pollard, we’re learning for the first time that herd immunity is magical thinking – and has always been magical thinking.

Since those who are vaccinated can still be infected by variants, “there is virtually nothing the UK can do” to eradicate COVID completely.

“We know very clearly with coronavirus that this current variant, the Delta variant, will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus,” Pollard said.

He said it was unlikely that herd immunity will ever be reached, saying the next variant of the novel coronavirus will be “perhaps even better at transmitting in vaccinated populations.”

Pollard also shared what sounded like a subtle criticism of masks by saying that “We don’t have anything which will stop that transmission to other people.” As an example, he pointed to Israel, which saw new cases and hospitalizations nearly disappear before the new variant took hold, causing cases and hospitalizations to surge once again. Now, there have even been a handful of patients who have tested positive even after receiving their third dose of the Pfizer jab (which the US has only just approved for a third dose as well).

Dr. Malone, meanwhile, celebrated Sir Pollard’s comments as vindication.

For context, Dr. Malone tweeted back in June that herd immunity targets were effectively useless.

Even the White House is finally acknowledging that vaccines aren’t nearly as effective as they once believed, which is why the FDA has decided to approve the third dose. “I think everybody believes this wanes over time, the question is to what extent,” a senior Biden official told Axios. “Nobody wants to be behind the eight-ball here. We want to catch it before there’s an issue, and that’s why there is very intense scrutiny.”

Remember, not only can the vaccinated be sickened by “breakthrough” infections, but they can also pass the virus on to others (including others who are vaccinated). And the more the virus spreads, the more likely a vaccine-resistant variant is to emerge.

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
August 12, 2021 1:38 pm

The goal isn’t health or even vaccines (although a couple hundred billion dollars per year for perpetual booster shots is nothing to sneeze at). The goal is the passports…digital ID… cashless world. Looks like the rollout is about 3 weeks away, according to (((Andy Slavitt))):

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Iska Waran
August 12, 2021 1:39 pm

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/ex-obama-health-official-gives-a-rosh-hashanah-pep-talk-on-coronavirus-637801
“Andy Slavitt, a former Obama administration official who ran Medicare and Medicaid from 2015 to 2017, wants to encourage his fellow Jews to look on the bright side.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
August 13, 2021 10:07 am

When all activity can be controlled by a single access point (passports), can they ever be defeated?

Archeaopteryx Phoenix
Archeaopteryx Phoenix
August 12, 2021 1:49 pm

Good news, fam, now pregnant woman are approved for injecting the mystery vaxx into them.

https://dailystormer.su/cdc-officially-recommends-deadly-vaxx-for-pregnant-women/

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Archeaopteryx Phoenix
August 12, 2021 4:13 pm

Actually it’s “pregnant people”. That way, they can make everyone twice as insane.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0811-vaccine-safe-pregnant.html

TheAssegai
TheAssegai
August 12, 2021 2:09 pm

I think I have got this: an injection that neither prevents one from acquiring a disease or passing the disease along will not create herd immunity. And on top of that, the injection screws up the body such that it begins creating its own crap. Who would have thought.

g64
g64
  TheAssegai
August 12, 2021 5:06 pm

Suddenly it really does look like a plan to cull the herd.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  g64
August 13, 2021 10:10 am

Not by quick death, for most people. They want a weak and sick population so that the remaining moral people are disarmed caring for their families. They want a full authoritarian police state. People have no idea what is going on with global testosterone trends and how that affects mental health.

Support the blue.

Madam DeFarge
Madam DeFarge
August 12, 2021 2:09 pm

fauci flu – the gift that keeps on giving.

GNL
GNL
August 12, 2021 2:11 pm

If your goal was to get the most number of people “vaxed “, they did it all wrong.

Warren
Warren
August 12, 2021 2:13 pm

There’s no Delta variant, it’s the beginning of the ADE nightmares to come this fall. The herd isn’t getting immunized, it’s going over the cliff. The immunity is going away but the spike proteins will continue on.
The booster shots are nothing more than an opportunity to inject more graphine oxides and lipo nanoparticles into the jabbed.
I doubt that they even designed the sterilizing antibodies to last more than 6 months.
Everything is working to plan.

motley
motley
  Warren
August 12, 2021 2:29 pm

I wonder how soft my mattress will be at the FEMA camp ….

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  motley
August 12, 2021 4:15 pm

We don’t get mattresses, fren.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Warren
August 12, 2021 4:47 pm

They didn’t design any sterilizing antibodies. They designed a drug to induce antibodies to the spike protein. The spike protein is in part why this coronavirus (if it exists) is better able to infect cells, and in part why this coronavirus (if it exists) causes more harm to bodily systems. And they did this by introducing mRNA directly into cells to induce the cells own ribosomes to create ….. spike protein!

Also, Antibody Dependent Enhancement is a perverse reaction where the antibodies themselves make it easier for the virus to infect cells. This makes it harder to ward off or shut down infection … for the vaccinated.

It does not create superviruses. And it does not cause the target virus to be more dangerous to the unvaccinated. It causes those who have the wrong antibodies (e.g. non-sterilizing) to be even more susceptible to the target virus.

Because some (but not all) of the vaccinated are even more susceptible, any pandemic will be prolonged and more different strains will evolve. Generally, these will not be more deadly strains; but they will usually be more virulent (contagious) strains. They will also be strains against which a poorly conceived “vaccine” will have less (if any) effect.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  Anonymous
August 12, 2021 5:13 pm

MOrale will definitely improve if certain persons get real beatings.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 13, 2021 10:13 am

That protein is too big for neutralizing antibodies. That is not a problem with an existing solution except for what the immune system already does (kill the virus from within the cell). This is why there can not be a vaccine for it. This is why they had to try the RNA approach.

The RNA vaccines are human experiments on that general technology, they never thought they were making a working vaccine.

I wonder if Jews will examine their monolithic unity after the Israel medical experiment. Their bankers and Rabbis don’t care about them either. If we want to know the true agenda, then maybe figuring out the Israeli vaccination plan is a good place to dig.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Warren
August 13, 2021 10:11 am

Claims of being able to differentiate the “variants” on any large scale are just quackery. Automated sequencing has come a long way, but isolating virus from a patient has not.

Horseless Headsman
Horseless Headsman
August 12, 2021 3:48 pm

If you can spend 7 hours to become well informed on the wider picture, I recommend the first 3 symposia. The fourth is probably good as well, but I haven’t watched it yet.

Gold Standard Covid Science in Practice: An Interdisciplinary Symposium, held on 29 and 30 July, 2021

Really, if you can find the time, watch them.

Joe Blow have hemp rope, will travel...
Joe Blow have hemp rope, will travel...
  Horseless Headsman
August 12, 2021 4:54 pm

Crap. This is a really deep rabbit hole you are sending me down…

Seriously. This looks good. Thanks!

nkit
nkit
August 12, 2021 4:37 pm

The jab for thee, but not for me.

Don’ jab me, bro.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
August 12, 2021 4:40 pm

I had my semi-annual checkup this morning with my personal physician. As expected, before one is allowed to enter the office one must abide by the huge sign posted upon its entry door, which says, basically, KABUKI OBSERVED HERE, so I had to wear the hated, useless mask.

When I went to the receptionist’s desk to check in, I noticed she wasn’t wearing a mask. Naturally, I had to ask why.

“Are you vaccinated?” she asked, answering my question with one of her own, which I find rather rude, but she Blek so I let it slide.

“NO.” I stated firmly.

“Then you have to wear a mask,” she told me.

“Oh great, so we’re at this part of the game again, huh?” I rolled my eyes.

“It’s not a game, sir, this is for everybody’s health,” she said.

I threw my head back and took a deep breath. Sometimes I have to do that when my blood starts to boil.

She signed me in, then told me to go have a seat, which was a good thing, because I wasn’t currently carrying one. So I go sit and, it being a doctor’s office, I had a nearby selection of magazines from which to choose, many of which were from 2018 or thereabouts. I sighted a Forbes from November 2018 and opened it. The overarching theme of the entire issue is about A.I., and how it was poised to enter most industries, and you know what, just look at how smart all these people are, and how important their work is, and we’re so goshdarned happy about this. Astounding. As I read another article, there are charts showing how few unemployed there were from people of working age, and how the number of college-educated workers was rising; isn’t it fun to see how these threads have tied themselves now?

The side door opens. “Mr. (REDACTED)?” the nurse asks me, as she holds the door open; I consider saying, “No no no — it’s spelt ‘RAYMOND LUXURY YACHT,’ but it’s pronounced ‘THROAT WARBLER MANGROVE,'” but I already know I’d be the only one to get the joke. I walk through, and she directs me to the weight scale: 162 pounds. I’m actually happy about this; it’s the most I’ve ever weighed, and I’m 5’9. Some of us haven’t just been sitting around getting fat whilst locked down, and that reminds me to send a thank-you letter to NordicTrack.

The nurse records my weight, then directs me into a room; inside, there is the obligatory bench seat covered by what looks like wax paper (but feels suspiciously like notebook paper), a couple of chairs, and a PC in the corner on a small table; she sits in front of it, and I take a seat at the side. She asks me am I still taking Lisinopril, which I am not and never have, and I have to sigh. My late father and I shared this physician, and they’ve somehow merged our charts and medicines since we both also had the same first names. Six months ago, same problem, and they still haven’t fixed it. I’m thinking to myself, and these are people tasked with dispensing medication and treating patients. I consider walking out, but I wanted to see my doctor, so I endured.

Finally we get it all ironed out, and the nurse leaves, with the caveat, “The doctor will see you shortly,” as she closes the door behind her. I was kinda hoping it would hit her in the ass, but nothing ever happens like that when you want it.

I got on my phone internet while I waited, and went to the CDC website. I was going to be prepared. My doctor and I were going to have an informed discussion about this “vaccine.” This is really why I was looking forward to seeing him, I had plenty of questions.

After a few minutes’ wait, the door opened, and my doctor came in, greeting me warmly. This is a good man. He is Jewish, from New York, but he’s not an asshole; I know, it’s surprising, right? He’s got more plaques on his wall than rednecks have teeth. He studied in Belgium and Luxembourg back in the early ’80’s. I trust him with my health because he’s more than qualified (not that that matters nowadays).

He asks how I’ve been, and I tell him no problems, and inquire as to his health. He too is feeling healthy.

“Did you take the (air-quotes) vaccine?” I asked.

“Yes, I did. Have you?”

“Absolutely not.”

“No? Well you’re putting yourself at risk…” he starts, and I cut him off there.

“I didn’t want to take anything that I haven’t yet spoken to my doctor about, as there are many questions I have, and this is what you are supposed to do before taking an unknown drug, right?”

He nodded in agreement. “Well let me be honest with you,” he then said, “if you’re looking for answers, I don’t know them. You probably know more than I do about this. The problem is, it changes daily — ”

“They keep moving the goalposts, huh?” I interjected.

He smiled and nodded and said, “That’s exactly it, that’s an excellent way to put it. Yes, they keep moving the goalposts.”

He then went on to tell me the story of how when he was studying in Belgium all those years ago, they kept receiving guys in hospital who had swollen glands, and rare diseases.

“We didn’t know what the hell we were doing, but we were getting all these guys who had diseases which just nobody else had. We treated them as best we could; later, we found out these guys all had HIV, but we didn’t know that until Anthony Fauci got on TV and started scaring the shit out of everybody. And that wasn’t until he was able to put his name on someone else’s work.”

“And then he started that murderous AZT crap,” I stated.

“Yes, that was part of it. This isn’t his first time…” my doctor trailed off.

“I know, he’s an evil man,” I said. “So you haven’t taken a look at the CDC website lately then, I take it?”

“Nah,” he replied.

“Well it says right here on their own website that they didn’t even have a synthesized sample of the virus before they made a ‘vaccine’ for it, they only had a computer model. Is that normal for vaccines?”

“No, in order for vaccines to work, they must contain either a dead or inert copy of its intended virus. So now they’re saying they didn’t have that?” he asked, leaning forward.

“Nope. Says it right here,” I told him, pointing at my phone.

“I believe you,” he said, waving his hand. “I told you you probably knew more about COVID than me.”

“Doc,” I said slowly, “nobody knows anything about it because it’s not real.”

“Well anyway,” he said as he sat back, “as I said, I can’t give you any answers if you have any questions. So I can’t tell you that, yes or no, you need the vaccine, and you are responsible for your own health.”

“Is there any way I could get you to say that on TV?” I jokingly asked. He just laughed and shook his head. Soon thereafter we ended our visit, with my doctor saying how good I looked.

This implies that I must have looked poorly before. I wonder why he didn’t say so then. Hmm.

I wanted to leave, but before I could go it was phlebotomy time, I had to have blood drawn. This is not my favorite thing in the world, and not because I hate needles: I don’t like anyone having my DNA. It’s MINE. Everybody should keep theirs to themselves, as far as I’m concerned. Anyhow, the phlebotomist is a very sweet, rather plump Mexican woman whom I’ve known for a while. She’s a doting grandmother who loves to talk about how big her niños are getting. Looking at her I wonder just how big they’re going to get.

We chatted for a moment, then I asked if she’d been vaccinated.

She dropped her mask, then said in a whisper, “No.” She looked conspiratorially towards the other nurses.

I kept my voice low. “Good. Don’t. Don’t let your babies get it either.”

“Oh I know,” she started. “I won’t take anything I don’t know what it is, and I would never let my kids either.”

I smiled and nodded. It’s really nice when you find people in the health profession now who aren’t brainwashed or compromised. And uncommon as well.

“What side-effects have you been seeing from this ‘vaccine’ from patients?” I asked her, as she started exsanguinating me. There were like 4 of those long tubes into which they take your blood on her little tray there; whatever blood I had in my face had to be what she was taking, thought I, as I looked at them.

“Mainly heart problems,” she told me quietly. “That shot does something that affects most peoples’ hearts.”

Again I nodded. Good to know there is truth out there, you just have to find it.

It wasn’t long before she was done, and we exchanged goodbyes. “Take care,” I told her. “And don’t take the jab.”

“I won’t!” she laughed. And I sincerely hope she doesn’t.

This whole process took almost an hour. I get to the reception desk and tell her I’m done. Aunt Jemima says OK and looks at my bill. It’s $165. I consider whether it’s worth it, but I write out a check. She takes that, and in return hands me my next appointment card for February of next year.

“Hope to see you then!” I say as I head for the exit.

“God willing!” she cheerfully responds.

As I slide into my car outside, I think about that phrase: GOD WILLING. I wonder if any of this is God’s Will, or if it’s the Other Guy’s, and if it is, what is God willing to do about it?

Driving home, I still can’t answer that question truthfully, and I realize after rumination that it’s the wrong question. The question is, what is the Other Guy willing to do?

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  Captain_Obviuos
August 12, 2021 5:21 pm

Check your Revelations and Daniel plus a host of other Bible books and passages on the topic.

(Sneak preview: Satan is ready and willing to do it ALL. And his B3RG* minions will do it all too.)

Archeaopteryx Phoenix
Archeaopteryx Phoenix
  Captain_Obviuos
August 12, 2021 6:50 pm

You’re a good writer. You should write more comments like that.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 12, 2021 5:24 pm

It’s like the ADE is causing all of the new varients and the more jabs they get the more varients we get… seems to me that the jab is the problem and maybe they should have let the chi na flu run it’s course. This would have been all over by now…but that’s not what the plan is. They knew before anyone got a jab.

Dan
Dan
August 12, 2021 8:39 pm

Bullshit…..we had herd immunity on day one of this insanity. More than half of EVERYONE on the planet had natural immunity to this from day one. Most of the rest developed immunity quickly. About 10% to maybe 15% of the populace is vulnerable to becoming noticeably ill from this, the rest are IMMUNE. This entire farce is nothing but a plot to destroy America and our freedom.

CrossingTheRubicon
CrossingTheRubicon
August 12, 2021 9:20 pm

I call BS on the covid variants. I haven’t found one picture on the internet showing the electron microscope difference in variants. The variant narrative is a cover for the leaky not-vax.

Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
Muscledawg (not to be known as Delusionaldawg)😉
August 13, 2021 9:47 am

Somebody please explain to me how do you(society) get herd immunity to something that doesn’t exist!!!!