If I move to Florida

Wages are terrible in down there and the cost of living has gone up a lot. I lived there for 5 years. Housing is through the roof not only to buy but to rent as well. We bought a house in 2012 for $225k sold it 5 years later for $290k and now the people are selling it for 400k (without any renovations). Insane.
You could do well on your own if you have a niche business but it will take time.
My 2 cents

Fl is terrific, and DeSantis has made an incredible difference when compared to the Northeast. However, there are concerns. One concern, the bozos from NY, NJ, PA, etc. moving to FL will bring their political stupidity with them. A second concern is he may run for president. A third concern (if he does not run for president) is if they can steal a presidential election, they can steal the governor’s
office

A month ago we were in Amelia Island for an annual trade assn. meeting. Drove the 10 minutes or so to Fernandina Beach one day for lunch. The billboard on the sign for Sliders Restaurant said “$1000 bonus for any kitchen help”.

Depends on what you’re looking for. In Charleston & Beaufort SC every biz window or street signage says “We’re Hiring”. No vax mandate here… our AG is suing Columbia & Charleston for requiring masking in skools. Beaufort is still affordable, Charleston mostly isn’t.

Florida is a big place, defined by regions. There is the Panhandle, much like south Alabama. The Northeast, somewhat colder winters but with great places like St. Augustine and Fernandina Beach. Tallahassee, the capital, a beautiful small city. The Lost Coast, in the Big Bend of the peninsula, old timey Florida, very rural, with a Gulf Coast vibe. Tampa/St. Pete, big cities. Southwest Florida, very midwestern in outlook. Naples, big money. North central Florida, Gainesville (U of F) and Ocala. Central Florida, Orlando, Disney, and the Space Coast. Interior south Florida, lots of cows, swamps, Indians and migrant workers. South Florida, the state’s contribution to the madness engulfing America. A weird mix of people. Broward (Ft. Lauderdale) is gay and liberal, Palm beach is sort of liberal, but not totally insane. Miami (Miami-Dade County) is simply the craziest place in America. Fun, in a way, but……

If you want a job in Florida, you can get one. What industry are you in and what skills? Pay? Not that much different from anywhere else in the sane part of the country. If you expect get a public job and get paid like you would in a corrupt Democrat shit hole, forget it. You want to work for a living? You will do just fine. Housing has gone nuts down here, largely due to Covid. Yes, you will pay much more than you would have 2 years ago. That said, if don’t mind sleepy parts of north Florida, you can get alone with a normal rent or mortgage payment. Orlando, South Florida, and Tampa/St. Pete are pricey right now.

A word to the wise. Do not bring your liberal, northeastern politics or cold rudeness with you. If somebody smiles and says hello to you, you damn better sure at least acknowledge it. I can’t remember how many times I have had to restrain myself from punching some cold, bitter, nasty, constipated New Englander or New Yorker who ignored my greeting.

Oh, a note for Ms. Greenfield and other Woke types. Mind your own damn business. Nobody wants to hear your views on masks or vaccines and they may well react badly. If you are an especially obnoxious man, you can get your butt kicked or worse. And don’t assume you can run to the police. Florida law on Stand Your Ground is a bit hazy and if you provoked a fight with a stranger it is your ass that may go to jail, not matter who ends up shot or with a broken nose.

The mask thing is pretty much over here. it is too hot for them in any case. The real reason is that Floridians have figured out on their own that:
–Masks are useless
–Lockdowns are dangerous folly
–The vaccines are only partially effective, if at all
–This thing is going to run its course with or without human intervention
–We are by the pool drinking beer

By the way, I work overseas and travel constantly. I got the J&J just to have a Covid card. I was sleepy for three hours the next day. I do not think that I have had any ill effects (yet) nor have I been in the least protected. I take Vitamin D3,zinc and a multivitamin every day, work out, and wash my hands. I have ignored masking to the extent possible for one and half years. I have been constantly exposed to people who developed Covid. I have had more than 35 Covid tests – nada. In my company, our company doctor has prescribed ivermectina, some antibiotics, aspirin, an anti-inflammatory, and only limited rest in bed (keep moving). Out of more than 200 cases, zero dead and 5 in the hospital. All have recovered, most in 4-5 days. This whole thing is bullshit, except for the very old, the unfit, the obese, diabetics, people with lung issues, and a handful of outliers.

North Central Florida is growing quickly.
Lots of property with low taxes is one of the draws. The other appears to be a place to ” bug out”.
Start small and grow with the area.
Lastly, Our current Guv is likely to be beat by his Ag commissioner. She’s saying all the right things to win the governorship so I’d be wary of things going along as they presently are.
Lastly, don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
I seriously doubt a vax mandate will stick down here.
Oh…employment will be easy.

Auntie must sign off from TBP and am discarding the nom de plume forever as of this final dispatch.

(AUntie K. only borrowed the moniker from the Antichrist to make things known clearly defined as evil. Devil’s advocate as it were. The B3RG* have indicated they do not like it one little bit. Really )

The world is totally corrupt and salvation comes only by the grace of God the Father through his Son, by his sacrifice on the cross of Calvary, the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

GOd forgive me my sins and the wickedness that I have uttered. Apologies to any and all offended except the Evil Bastards who murder babies in the womb and wish to mass murder people.

God protect all the good people of the Burning Platform and their families. Thank you Mr Quinn for providing this true free speech forum as God knows we need it.

May the Lord guard you from the Great Evil that is manifesting in the World. Revelation is here.

Bon chance my friends and God bless and protect you all in the mighty name of Jesus Christ.

RESIST.

Just moved from Florida, after living there for over 25 years. I’ve moved behind enemy lines in NY state in a rural and strong Trump country area.

Though my family, friends, and career was in Florida, I saw the writing on the wall. 10 million are expected to move to Florida in less than ten years, expanding the population of the state to 30 million plus. This not only causes huge rises in property prices and fewer housing choices, it cause many basic problems too.

The infrastructure can’t handle it. Governor Desantis is working hard building roads to handle the traffic, and private companies are building gas stations and apartment buildings like mad, but it isn’t enough. We already had rolling brownouts in the Tampa Bay area for years. In time, that will become rolling blackouts. The electrical infrastructure can’t keep up. As for water, our aquifer is drooping precipitously low, causing sinkholes you read about on the web. What folks don’t realize, once the aquifer drops low enough, the saltwater from the ocean and gulf will seep in, ruining our fresh water supply, requiring expensive de-salination plants.

Traffic is already unreal in the Tampa Bay area. Some roads take you over an hour during the day to travel just six miles! The heat is tough during the summer months, which seem to exist 8 months out of the year. If you are older, you cannot go outside long in the heat and must stay indoors in air conditioning. That might be ok, if it wasn’t for the brownouts that shut you down briefly and shorten the life of your electronic devices including the A/C.

Growing a traditional garden in Florida is tough due to the soil being primarily sand and the brutal sun. If you do get to harvest, you find the birds have eaten all your crop, even your muscadine grapes! You can try netting, but we have some sizable birds that are not deterred. Don’t even think about trying to have a goldfish pond! Haha.

I loved Florida, I miss it each day, but my Florida is long gone. The Florida today is very crowded and the infrastructure is near the breaking point. Though I am in rural NY, I have found many more opportunities here, and a good place to hide and ride out the crazy times so far. Good people here and life is much simpler. Nearest major city is about 80-100 miles away, and the interstate is over ten miles away.

As for vaccine mandates, that won’t happen while Desantis is in office, but Charlie Crist is going to run, and he will try to force mandates. Our election system is still wrought with fraud, and Crist won his last election due to that fraud. Until the fraud can be fixed, there is always a chance Florida will go illegitimately blue.

We always complain about liberals infiltrating our red states. Maybe it’s time to infiltrate the blue states for once and take their rural areas from them. What ever you choose, just follow The late Remus of the Woodpile Report, “Stay away from crowds.” I would add, stay far away from any city greater than 12,000 people if you can

I wish you and your wife the best of luck. I will say a prayer for you asking God to grant you the wisdom to make the right choice of where to go.