“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” ― George Orwell, 1984
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.” ― George Orwell, 1984
I never thought I would experience the dystopian “fictional” nightmare Orwell laid out in his 1949 novel. Seventy-two years later and his warning about a totalitarian society, where mass surveillance, repressive measures against dissenters, mind control through government indoctrination and propaganda designed to convince the masses lies are truth, fake is real and the narrative can be manipulated to achieve the desired outcome of those in power, have come to fruition.
Everything is fake. I don’t believe anything I’m told by the government, the media, medical “experts”, politicians, military leadership, bankers, corporate executives, religious leaders, financial professionals, and anyone selling themselves as an authority on any subject matter. We are truly living in times of mass deception, mass delusion, and mass willful ignorance.
The term Potemkin Village comes from stories of a phony movable village built by Grigory Potemkin in the late 1700’s to impress his former lover, Catherine II, during her journey to Crimea in 1787. He supposedly erected fake villages along the banks of the Dnieper River, as her vessel sailed by, to impress her with the progress he was making on her behalf. After she passed, he would have the village disassembled and then reassembled further along downstream.
I guess this was an early version of fake news, though I am sure there were also plenty of falsities and propaganda in the newspapers of the time. But, in our current day, oppressors have taken lies, falsities, miss-truths, and propaganda to heights never conceived by Edward Bernays, George Orwell or Joseph Stalin.
Any semblance of a Constitutional Republic given to us by Franklin and his courageous fellow revolutionaries has dissipated, as decades of delusion, debt, decadence, and degeneracy have sapped any trace of revolutionary spirit, desire for freedom, love of liberty, or aspirations of self-reliance and self-responsibility among the masses. When you step back and observe how we got to this point in history, you realize it wasn’t a mistake, but a plan by those who control the levers of power, with a goal of accumulating immense riches and total dominion over those they consider nothing more than disposable chess pieces in their game of building a new world order.
We are nothing more than parasites to these tyrannical power-hungry satanical fiends. They have proven they will use any means necessary to achieve their evil ends. The last two years have pulled back the curtain to reveal the oligarch globalist bloodsuckers who have been draining the lifeblood from our nation. The enemies have been exposed by their lies and misdeeds.
For most of the past century the ruling class has been able to implement their methodical pillaging operation utilizing Huxley’s “soft” dystopian methods versus Orwell’s “hard” dystopian techniques. Huxley, who at one time was Orwell’s French teacher in high school, wrote a letter to Orwell shortly after the publication of 1984 where he put forth his vision of the future:
“Within the next generation I believe that the world’s rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience.”
As contemporaries, Huxley (Brave New World – 1931), Bernays (Propaganda – 1928), and Orwell (1984 – 1949) all agreed those wielding the power of government, whether seen or unseen, use propaganda techniques to mold the minds of the masses in ways conducive to keeping them in power. Huxley and Bernays believed people could be controlled through mind manipulation, materialism, entertainment, and pharmaceuticals. Orwell, in the wake of 65 million deaths in the space of seven years, and the Soviet totalitarianism in Russia, foresaw a future with a boot stomping on a human face forever.
From 1950 until 2000, Huxley and Bernays’ view held sway, as Americans were enthralled by consumption, sports, movies, technology, and the miracle of living far above their means through plentiful debt provided by Wall Street bankers and their Federal Reserve lackeys. We were so distracted by amusing ourselves, we allowed oligarchs and their highly compensated apparatchiks in government, the media, the military, and the corporate world to hijack and ransack our country for their enrichment.
Neil Postman in his 1985 book Amusing Ourselves to Death compares and contrasts Orwell and Huxley’s views of dystopian tyranny:
“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny “failed to take into account man’s almost infinite appetite for distractions.” In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us.”
Since 9/11 the tables have turned. The implementation of the pre-written Patriot Act and initiation of the surveillance state, as revealed by Snowden and Greenwald, has ushered in a new Orwellian era where a truncheon to the skull and boot on the face supplements the endless technological distractions and incessant propaganda spewed by the legacy media networks and rising social media censorship cabal.
There has clearly been a coalescing of the government, Surveillance state, media, military, Big Tech, Big Pharma, and Big Business to seize the power, control and wealth of the planet and put it in the hands of the few. The Build Back Better marketing campaign, with the goal of a new world order, controlled by oligarchs like Gates, Soros, Bezos, Schwab, Zuckerberg, and Bloomberg, is not a wild-eyed conspiracy theory. It is a work in progress.
The level of brazen dishonesty and blatant criminality among those who portray themselves as leaders and experts in our debauched society has reached astronomical levels over the last two years. There are no trustworthy politicians. No trustworthy corporate executives. No trustworthy military leaders. No trustworthy scientists or academics. They have all been captured and are financially beholden to those controlling the purse strings.
It’s always about the money and power that comes from having money. If you are paid handsomely to lie, you will lie. The truth is meaningless to those who seek power and control. Suppression of the truth is more financially rewarding to those seeking world domination. This entire engineered pandemic scheme has exposed this fact.
A virus, released accidentally or purposely from a Chinese bio-weapon lab, funded by Anthony Fauci, was weaponized and marketed as the greatest threat to mankind in world history, as a means to cover-up a financial system ready to implode, unseat a president through fraudulent mail-in ballots, enrich the wealthiest men on the planet, test how far totalitarian measures could be pushed, and roll out of an experimental gene altering therapy that may or may not be part of a bigger population culling operation promoted by Gates, Schwab and the rest of the Davos crowd. What we do know is this virus only kills very old, very sick, and very obese people. It’s a virus with the largest marketing campaign in world history, paid for with your tax dollars.
With a 99.7% survival rate, there should have never been lockdowns, school closures, mandatory masking, vaccine mandates, or elevating criminal mass murderers like Fauci to sainthood status. The elderly in nursing homes and hospitals should have been protected. Instead, they were slaughtered by Democrat governors putting infected patients into their midst.
Safe and effective early treatment with ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives, but the corrupt medical “experts” were bribed by Big Pharma to push these untested, ineffective, dangerous vaccines on a fearful public with promises of a cure. More lies. The “vaccines” do not keep you from catching covid, spreading covid, being hospitalized with covid, or dying from covid. In other words, it is a complete and utter failure.
When you then see Fauci, Biden, Walensky and their Hollywood marketing machine demanding vaccine mandates and vaccine passports to entitle you to basic human rights, you realize this has never been about your health or the good of society. This dementia ridden joke, play acting as president, is doing the bidding of the invisible government, as documented by Bernays, in implementing a social credit system styled after the communist China totalitarians they admire.
The un-vaxxed will soon be treated like the Uyghurs in China, placed in internment camps until we see the light, unless we start to fight back NOW. The WEF cadre of captured politicians positioned in countries across the planet have been activated to implement the Build Back Better plot to achieve their goal of a new world order controlled by tyrannical oligarchs and their highly compensated bureaucrat servants.
They have been testing their totalitarian methods in countries with smaller populations (New Zealand, Australia) to see how far they can push their citizens before they push back. When the protests begin to get violent, they back off and pretend to reduce restrictions, then re-institute the lockdowns and restraints on freedom after hyping some new variant. As Bernays claimed, those in control of society know how to psychologically manipulate and mold the minds of the masses through the use of fear, greed, rewards, pain, threats and lies.
We have entered one of the most dangerous periods in world history, as this engineered crisis is being commandeered by sociopathic totalitarians to implement their warped demented plans to destroy the existing societal structures and economic systems in order to build back better under a centralized communistic authoritarian techno-gulag configuration designed to benefit the few at the top, while keeping a boot on the face of humanity forever. When you understand their end goal, much of the seemingly incomprehensible decisions being made by Biden and his handlers come into clearer focus.
It is difficult to step back and try to observe the current state of affairs in an impartial manner when those manipulating the narrative are intent on creating conflict, emotional reactions, anger, and outrage. Pitting us against each other and distracted by daily concocted outrage porn spewed by the completely captured corporate media outlets, allows the oligarchy (billionaires, bankers, politicians, mega-corps, Deep State) to continue their plunder and pillage crusade unhindered and undetected.
They are counting on their decades long social indoctrination program, known as the public school system, to keep the masses from thinking, questioning, or recognizing they are being screwed over the people they believe are looking out for their best interests.
Not only are the dark forces currently ruling the earth not telling the truth, but they have a far greater power in keeping silent about the truth and suppressing it when it rears its ugly head. The truth would set us free, so it is vital for the totalitarian propagandists to keep it from being heard or seen by the masses. Huxley realized during the last Fourth Turning that if you controlled the narrative and suppressed the truth, you could influence opinion much more effectively.
“Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth. By simply not mentioning certain subjects… totalitarian propagandists have influenced opinion much more effectively than they could have by the most eloquent denunciations.” – Aldous Huxley
The current batch of autocratic techno-propagandists have tools which make this truth suppression far easier than it was in the 1930’s and 1940’s. With six mega-corporations dominating the mainstream media outlets, they easily coordinate their messaging and can jointly ignore anything which undermines their predetermined narrative. The examples of ignoring, silencing, or censoring the truth over the last two years could fill hundreds of pages, but a few examples will suffice to make the point.
In September 2019, the financial system began to shudder and quake, with overnight repo rates of 10% indicating tremendous strain. The MSM kept silent as the Fed reversed their tightening and resumed QE to infinity. The press has never questioned the trillions created out of thin air by the Fed to prop up this debt bloated carcass, even as the economy surpassed the GDP before this engineered scamdemic. Why doesn’t 60 Minutes do an expose on why the Fed continues to keep interest rates at 0% when inflation is raging in excess of 10%? Complete silence on issues which hurt the average person the most.
The entire Russiagate Deep State coup against Trump was built on lies, misinformation and suppression of facts by the compliant co-conspirators in the media. Obama, Hillary, Comey, Biden, Brennan, Clapper and a myriad of other traitorous filth conspired against a sitting president and the media kept silent about the facts. The most blatant example of a complete cover-up of the truth by the MSM and the Silicon Valley social media censorship police was, and still is, crackhead Hunter Biden’s laptop during the final days of the presidential campaign.
There is unequivocal proof Hunter Biden and the Big Guy were shaking down foreign governments for cash, influence peddling, and threatening foreign leaders who dared to look into their slimy traitorous dealings. All of the left-wing media outlets either ignored the story or called it Russian disinformation, because they had to get Biden elected. Twitter and Facebook censored and banned anyone putting forth the facts of this story. Then issued fake apologies afterward.
But that was just the beginning. The halt to vote tabulations in the middle of the night in all the swing states, with Trump significantly ahead, was not reported by the press. Fake stories about burst pipes were promulgated. Vote counting irregularities and truckloads of missing ballots didn’t happen if the media didn’t say they happened. Video surveillance of fake ballots being added to the counts was not shown by the media outlets.
The Washington Post and NY Times just applied the same language about conspiracy theories and the most secure election ever to override the substantial factual evidence showing massive voter fraud in the key swing states. Whenever evidence was presented on social media platforms, the person was banned, and their evidence disappeared. Zuckerberg needed to make sure the $420 million he spent to swing the election to Biden was not wasted. By not reporting on the Arizona audit results, the huge irregularities found never happened. Right?
Since the installation of Trojan Horse Joe, the level of silence, suppression and censorship of the truth has reached new heights. Of course, the worst attack on democracy since Pearl Harbor, and far worse than 9/11, was the armed selfie insurrection of January 6, during which no one was armed except the black cop who murdered an unarmed white woman. The media, who gleefully exposes every detail of a cop’s life when they immobilize a drug addled black criminal resisting arrest who died of an overdose, seemed completely uninterested in even trying to identify the cop who murdered Ashli Babbitt.
Silence benefited Biden as they spun the false narrative about the Capitol being attacked and Capitol police being murdered. Pelosi and her sidekicks “Shit My Pants” Nadler, “Crying” Chuck Schumer, “Fartman” “Fang Fang Banging” Swallwell, and “Bug Eyes” Schiff tried their darndest to elevate this milling about by idiots dressed in buffalo regale, FBI plants, and ANTIFA CNN correspondents to an insurrection, but were laughed at and ridiculed by anyone with eyes. Only the couple thousand people in the country, who still watch MSNBC and CNN, believed them.
These boobs, along with their FBI “undercover” domestic terrorists, were further discredited and ridiculed when they attempted to lure normal Americans into another trap at the J6 rally but failed miserably. These are the same people trying to make you believe the border is secure, and hundreds of thousands of third world parasites are not being shipped into swing states across the country. Just pretend it isn’t happening, don’t report on the invasion, and in the minds of the ignorant masses, it isn’t happening.
In Part Two of this article, I will document the never-ending blizzard of lies used to create enough fear and panic in the world from this pandemic of ignorance to initiate the globalist Great Reset agenda and how we need to fight back now before it is too late.
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Screw “them.” “Their”brain stems will snap like anyone else’s. Outstanding job, JQ..Looking forward to part two.
Yes, nkit. I don’t understand why those powers that want to be seem to think they aren’t human. They slid from a birth canal, and if they didn’t, C sections were involved.
Welcome to the United States of Banana (((Republic)))….for now…
But be prepared for Welcome to Thunderdome, coming soon near you!!
Understanding who you’re fighting against, and what you’re fighting about is critical. A couple of tiny bits of information, but if you staple them together, might help you get a little better idea of the big picture. “General Milley etc assume they’ll act as China’s prefects. They’ll carve up the country and govern it under China’s control.” Mike Cernovitch. “Blackrock is the operations arm of the Fed.” Jack Posobiec.
Most important is to understand what you hope to achieve. Without that you may end up where you don’t want to be even if you win.
Treacherous times, brother. Not a great time to be ignorant. I agree completely, you had better be self-aware
How is that working out, buddy? Long time, no see.
Being a geezer who’s led a full life, I don’t care so much about me as for the kids & grandkids: I’d sacrifice a lot for them. I don’t want to even imagine what that might be.
“They’ll carve up the country and govern it under China’s control.”
For want of a nail, the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe, the horse was lost.
For want of a horse, the rider was lost.
For want of a rider, the battle was lost.
For want of a battle, the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <—-==== an American pharaoh……a masonic god-emperor
Very important summary article.
The foundation of all Leftist evil is dishonesty, deception, lies, strategic omissions. Sincerity dot net shows that such “virtuous omissions and lies” are institutionalizes in world wide written media ethics codes (to avoid prejudice and giving fodder to the Right).
TruthRevolution dot net explains that we need to be totally intolerant of any omissions and lies. Religious honesty in politics, social science, and journalism. Scientific honesty, zero lies, full disclosure. Sites like theburningplatform or ZeroHedge provide some of the information that the MSM want to hide and thus our favorite “misinformation” #HateFact sites add important information that contributes to the ideal of the “informed voter”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1p-E2xmpjA
Nothing has changed since the Pharaohs convinced the Egyptians they were gods.
The guys running the Incan/Mayan/Aztec show back in the day (before everyone there abandoned their pyramids, too) pulled the same stunt.
Hmmm….,first comment.
Vote .308 across the board.
Tis the answer for most issues today.
That is exactly what they want you to do. January sixth writ all over and worse.
Go play the role of the stupid abused housewife – fight back and get killed.
The only thing that is remotely possible is to work to secede. Preferably a good while after the economy has collapsed.
Admin,
I’m pretty sure there is a typo. Zuckerberg spent at least $420 million on getting Dopey Joe elected.
Hungry for part deux….
Fixed by net gnomes 🙂
Yes, indeed, and that is a wicked combination right there.
In the movie “Almost Famous” there’s a scene where an airplane is about to crash and the occupants on board begin to make confessions to each other. One of the occupants begins telling another on board exactly what everyone thinks of him.
In response, as they all believe they’re about to die, one guy yells out: “Finally! The TRUTH!”
That’s how I feel whenever I read one of Jim’s articles.
I can only feel gratitude as the truth is so passionately, and eloquently, shouted from the digital rooftops. And I can only hope it makes some sort of difference. But then I remember that it already has made a difference.
Balls to the wall and pedal to the metal. There can be no retreat now. It calls to mind the words of Tennyson: “Ours is not to wonder why. Ours is just to do or die.”
Authenticity scares the shit out of them.
Civilization is sustained by a small percentage of the population.
The rest of the population has one foot in the animal world and the other foot on a banana peel.
How many people did Hitler kill?
Personally or with hired help begs the question
Not as many as the Americans, Brits or Soviets.
Americans, Brits, nor Soviets/Russians stuffed their citizens into ovens. Yet. Why would you be an apologist for that sick twist, Anonymous Bootlicker? Adolf ain’t clawing his way back up with a dirt cookie in his busted skull teeth for your apt reward in this life. But he is waiting for you in the next.
You are one very malinformed dude.
The Edward Bernays book Propaganda is the one almost always cited in these articles, but the book is pedestrian and one-dimensional. Bernays had a mediocre mind.
Another book by the same name, written by Jacques Ellul (Propaganda: The Formation of Men’s Attitudes) and translated from French into English in 1973, gives the far clearer and more instructive image of the true nature of this beast. The phenomenon of propaganda is almost entirely misunderstood by the average man. Reading Ellul’s book will alleviate the misunderstanding and shine a light on the extent of the destruction this psychological and social pestilence has wreaked on Western civilization since the 1950s.
There’s no defending yourself against this monster unless and until you have studied it and can recognize it instantly, in all of its forms.
Bernays was an enemy of mankind and himself a technician of this poison. Ellul wanted only to inform and show man how to protect himself against the poison.
But in order to glean a total picture, Ellul’s work The Technological Society, in addition to Lewis Mumford’s The Myth of the Machine Parts I and II and Marshall McLuhan’s Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man will completely pull back the curtain of this technological nightmare we’ve been beset by, and give access to an understanding of this world not attained by even one man in a million living today.
I don’t mean to insult you, please believe that. You have made a number of recommendations regarding various books. … like the Ellul book above. Have you actually read the books you recommend?
If so, damn, boy … you’re pretty well read.
I would never recommend a book I haven’t read.
This is what I’ve done with my SOBER adult life. I broke the code and I have the psychological scars to serve as my bonifides. Don Quixote went mad from reading too many books about chivalry. I went mad a long time ago from reading too many books in general. The only thing holding my psyche together today is THE LORD…
…without Whom I would have self-destructed many moons ago, merely from collapsing beneath the weight of it all.
Mumford was, in his terms, an ‘organic communist.’
McLuhan was a Catholic.
Ellul was what I would describe as a real deal believer. His book ‘The Meaning of the City’ is outstanding and gives another high definition look behind the spiritual scenes of this world. These men were GIANTS of talent and intellect and their minds were VASTLY superior both in scope and in health to the minds of today’s technologically corrupted man. Our minds have been poisoned to a significant degree, just like our bodies have. The work these men left behind them serves as a powerful antidote to that damage we’ve all suffered.
I can’t recommend any of this material more highly than I do.
Keys to the Labyrinth. Quite literally.
R.E.S.P.E.C.T.
Grazi, Stucky.
Yay!! I got 5 fans following me today!!
Woke, Inc., Vivek Ramaswamy, is a pretty good read. Currently struggling with The Urantia Revelation, Malcolm Locke.
Thanks for the links. I just now added more titles to my mile long must read list.
Downloaded and going to read. What I really don’t need is more info that separates me further from the unread, but I really cannot stop.
Don Quixote went mad from reading too many books about chivalry. I went mad a long time ago from reading too many books in general.
I read a short book about Trotsky by Irvine Howe and think I shall re-read The Brothers Karamazov for context.
If he’d ever read Dostoevsky, it’s doubtful Adolf would’ve gone East.
He had to. Stalin was about to go west.
Is there evidence of that?
Plenty. It was posted here repeatedly by me, AP, and Flash complete with links galore. PCR also recently had an article about just that maybe two weeks ago. Fleabaggs was the first I remember to post it but that’s no surprise. He took point on plenty of taboo issues. He was the first to say here comes “Medical Martial Law” and lockdowns and one of the first to report on the graphine oxide and dna corrupting ingredients in the not-vaccines vaccines. Him and farmer were routinely bathered in slime for the heresy of saying it’s no worse than a flu and it’s not about the flu. Sorry you missed it.
I can not recall any instances where Farmer was ‘slathered in slime’ for saying Covid is just the flu.
Hopefully, Hardscrabble Farmer sees this and can give his input … and, hopefully, before you call me a dumb shit retard.
You not remembering is meaningless and you’re not interested except to stir shit and cry victim. Surprised it took you this long to start your sick bullshit today.
Plenty. See Joachim Hoffman’s 2001 work “Stalin’s War of Extermination 1941-1945: Planning, Realization, & Documentation”. Hoffman was the preeminent Military Historian for the German Bundeswehr & specialized in the war in the east. With the collapse of the Soviet Union a treasure trove of documents were released & he discovered that Stalin’s overall plan was to embroil Germany in an attritional war with Britain & France – a’la World War I – & then strike Germany when weakened. Hitler upset that by smashing France in 6wks & kicking the British off the continent, not only out of France but also Norway & Greece. Stalin had to have his generals reorganize the entire plan + there was much damage to repair after the humiliating Russian attack on Finland in what became known as the Winter War of 1939-40. Still reading it now but Stalin’s general plan seems to have been attack Germany in/around Spring 1942. Hitler beat him to the punch launching Operation Barbarossa on June 22, 1941. The Soviet losses were enormous; no western nation could have survived them. In the first 3 months the Soviets would lose about 3 million men, thousands of tanks & armored vehicles, & virtually all their Air Force. One reason for such staggering losses in men & materièl is that the Red Army was massed up against the western border.
Hoffman’s work was approved by German Public Sensors which says a lot right there; every German administration post-1945 is extremely leery of putting anything out that looks like/might absolve any act committed by The Third Reich.
Moreover, one cannot have a rational discussion about World War II without posing the question: if World War II began when Britain & France declared war on Germany September 3, 1939 for the invasion of Poland, why didn’t they declare war against the Soviet Union when they invaded Poland 14 days later?
The official “narrative” of World War II just isn’t accurate.
“The official “narrative” of World War II just isn’t accurate.”
Now there’s an understatement.
The Japanes truce with the Soviets also freed up more troops for Stalin to move west.
US backstapping in the form of aiding Britain in breaking the submarine blockade with lendlease and covert aid prior to our entry into WWII rarely gets mentioned in the struggle on the eastern front, much less all the assistance we gave Stalin directly.
Downloaded and on the read list… many thx for the heads up.
I hope some are squirreling away these types of books the way some are saving seeds in the mountain cave so called doomsday vault.
Thumbs up on the Ellul books. I read both The Technological Society and Propaganda.
What struck me most was how this guy laid out our current situation around the time I was born (A loooooong time ago). Not easy reads, but well worth it. I just dug them out of the storage unit to read them again.
I’ve never been on a comment board with more eager readers than this one. And almost everyone here writes in logical, coherent and grammatically-correct sentences!!
This is a unique and worthy website.
Ahhh well wait until winter when I can’t get out side any longer… I’ll blow that whole concept of coherency and grammatical, spelling structures, completely outa the water. Just forewarning so as to ease you into the reality of TBP.
LOL!
Bourbon? Single malt? Or do you just go full Nicholson when the snows mount?
What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Instead, play on a “fone”. There is enough time to read all the works you put forth. Thanks. I’m with you: “I went mad a long time ago from reading too many books in general.” starting in childhood
MOST men in the Western world have simply lost the capacity to read books of the caliber I listed. The idea of sitting before a 400 or 500 page book is overwhelming to the modern mind, as a general rule. Add to that the fact that language has been corrupted to such a degree (see Orwell and his ‘newspeak’) that the task of reading even one such book is not something most men would feel inclined or equipped to attempt.
Was about 16yrs old when I read David G. Chandler’s “The Campaigns of Napoleon”.
Pulp fiction just never did it for me I guess ;<)
Have you ever thought of releasing your idea of a comprehensive reading list? I keep a running list of recommendations of rare and good books that the elite doesn’t want u s to read and search them out in book stores and online. Building the library for the grandsons for the rebuild and renewal after the collapse. Included are many history books and biographies prior to 1960 when the truth was actually more likely to be told. Many of my books are over 100 years old. Currently looking for good medicinal herbal books that are written prior to Rockefeller medicine.
Well stocked libraries are as or more important as beans and bullets in my humble opinion.
Thank you Red River. Much respect. Looking forward to adding these books to my library. Going to a antique bookstore this weekend. Will add them to my want list.
It actually helps me sleep better knowing there are folks like you out there. I too have accumulated a library of mostly hundred year old books.
Take Ellul’s The Technological Society, as an example. Right now, there are two hardcover copies on Amazon. One is used and lists for $157.62. The other is new and lists for over $1000. There is a mass market paperback version of the book, and it is unabridged. However, the print quality is so poor, that it is difficult to read. That’s one way the censorship game is played.
I paid about 150 for my copy a few years ago and it was worth every penny. In fact, this comment board inspires me to give it and ‘Propaganda’ another read, which I had intended to do sometime soon anyway.
As for history — Toynbee’s ten volume A Study of History is of incalculable value. Steer clear of the two volume abridgement. I lucked out when I found a former library set of the books and paid around 600. Generally I find complete copies of this work for between 1000 and 1200.
Inquire from your bookseller about anything by Lewis Mumford (even his biography of Herman Melville is worthy). Oswald Spengler’s ‘The Decline of the West’ is remarkable. More remarkable is the way in which Marshall McLuhan (who despised Spengler) virtually undoes Spengler’s underlying thesis in a mere paragraph and a half (in ‘Understanding Media’). Spengler’s was a dark, German mind animated by a frightening and powerful intellect. And he had extraordinarily insight into this world’s civilizations. Mumford’s message is much more optimistic, save for the fact that he said once we get to the point where machines can self-replicate, we are over the edge and into the Abyss.
See Wikipedia’s entry on Lewis Mumford. Mumford was not a fan of McLuhan. They had something of a rivalry over the years, begun by McLuhan. It is amusing to follow.
Thank you.
I know it’s online as opposed to physical, but Ron Unz has been digitizing old books of the taboo kind, and archives them at his site unz.com — check it out if you aren’t already aware of it.
Thank you DS!
Newspapers were the principal ‘opinion shapers’ throughout our history until the advent of true mass communications. Should anyone be surprised that powerful people and/or political parties sought to leverage those venues for personal/political gain?
I delivered them as an 8 year old. I should be ashamed, but I’m not…
You gots a cheap laugh outta me. Stop it! :0
Newspapers, at least in the U.S., were instruments of mass communication.
Propaganda: The Formation of Men’s Attitudes
Just bought it.
Buckle your seatbelt. You won’t regret it.
You are correct sir! Great so far. What would he think about today???
He would weep. But he was a believer, so he would also hope in God’s promises.
pdf here:
http://www.inlimbo.ie/summaries/long/formation.pdf
FYI: That PDF seems to consist only of 57 pages. My hardcopy is a former library book, printed in 1965, and totals 313 pages plus an index. Don’t let anyone give you a watered-down version of this.
Then there’s always libgen.rs
…also, used copies of these books in their first or second printings become available all the time online. Book collectors worry about condition. I worry about readability, so I get great deals on former library books with the stamp on the back/library card, etc. I always look for books without pen/pencil notes and underlining or highlighting of any kind. Nice clean text for a very reasonable price.
and here:
https://archive.org/details/Propaganda_201512
Bernays is as ridiculous as his Uncle Sigmund Freud but are both pioneers in their field. Even though Freud was snorting coke and was obsessed with his anus, he created the field of psychology. Bernays is no different. He wrote the book on propaganda though others that followed used his techniques to write better books.
Freud created a manual for turning common sence into high level VooDoo called Psychobabble. They take basic forms of selfishness and turn them into disorders they then pretend to treat. One of the first orders of business after Rocefeller took over the Medical Proffession was to begin legitimizing Psychobabble as a medical science and eventually having it accepted by his now fully owned Medical Malpractice Corporation known as the AMA, and given the same status as Medical Doctors. This guarunteed billions of new government pork and spread throughout the country by way of their army of quasi therapists and addiction councillors.
The fine art of turning ordinary resentments into diseases and disorders that one never fully recovers from and therefore dependant on a life of therapy and Pharmica.
Psychotherapy is extremely important to “them.” It is anything but nonsense. It is literally the acid with which they denature, degrade and decompose an otherwise healthy psyche. (on both the individual and society-wide basis)
SOLVE ET COAGULA
Psychotherapy is, in the most literal sense, alchemy for the soul (soul is ψυχή / psuché in Greek). The arts of the east came to the west and changed their form, so no one would recognize them.
Psychotherapy is one of the most potent elixirs for remaking the man in the image of the anti-creator.
I have called it witchcraft and sorcery as well as alchemy many times on TBP and at least twice here. Where we disagree is If I understand correctly that you are saying understanding it is necessary
“Red River D
The Freudian concept of the subconscious is of paramount importance when understanding what man is and how man is made.
The subconscious (as a liminal zone) is directly accessible by us. And we must monitor our subconscious in order to understand what goes on in our unconscious.
ZEITGEIST. The spirit of the times. The very potent evil which has broken free across the land, WILL gain access to our own minds and WILL wield influence over our inner man (directly and indirectly) unless we prevent it.”
I disagree with understanding it as being necessary beyond a basic instruction from God’s Holy Spirit. I believe God even makes knowledge that is is alchemy to agnostics if they choose to know. However, you can’t rape the willing. If they won’t seek then it’s consensual sex with the devil.
We don’t need to understand Freud or Jung or read anything they wrote or consider them at all.
But we should not remain ignorant of the mechanism whereby spirits or forces or entities (conscious or unconscious) gain an influence over us. We are influenced through our appetites, our passions, our dreams, our desires…
…lusts of the flesh, lusts of the eyes and the pride of life.
Discursive thoughts, or the subconscious script we have running in the background of our thoughts, sometimes guiding us. Though we hear the sound of our own voice within our minds, is it really WE who do the speaking? What are the elements of the identity? In WHOM do we have our identity? What is our identity when we dream? Are we ourselves or someone else?
All of this is very important, and all of it is addressed by Freud and Jung, but we do not need to familiarize ourselves with their work, which is the work of the enemy. We can learn about these things through the natural course of study and observation of the natural things of this created world. And of course, through study of the written Word of God.
I definitely agree we need to be aware of the methods of deception, both by self and by outside influence. I also would encourage everyone to feed their minds by whatever topics get their juices flowing. The younger generations have been robbed of the chance to feed their minds the way I was able to feed mine by reading and trying to apply what I read to life. The younger people I meet have difficulty comprehending what they read. Even today’s libraries a full of junk written in english one grade above pigeon.
Here’s a quote from a Kiwi named Bolton.
The focus of this Neo-Freudianism is on the individual detached from society. It is therefore a means of deconstructing and fracturing the social organism, which is why the Marxian theorists who created the Frankfurt Institute in 1923 found Freudianism to be such a useful ingredient in creating a new revolutionary synthesis. The organic bonds of family, state, faith, and ethos, disparaged as ‘primary ties’ in need of cutting, were portrayed as injurious to the individual well-being and as repressing the individual’s path to self-actualisation.
It sure has been playing out that way. I recall reading and watching professional Psychobabblers of the late 60′ early 70’s telling us that’s it’s wrong for parents to stay married for the kids sake. It causes the parents to be unfulfilled, which they defined as a career and material gains.
What better way to wreck a culture?
Actually, it seems that (((Freud))) simply codified tribalistic inversions of truth as had been practiced for centuries, convincing many non-tribalists that he was some sort of genius, an approach suggested by Herzl to boost visibility & esteem of tribalists worldwide. (((Bernays))) then applied similar truth inversions to business and political realms.
That what I have put into “you need to learn how to think like a psychopath.”
The big unanswered question remains:
Should we try to teach everyone to be able to think like a psychopath?
That’s a very hard question.
I now tend towards yes, as even if 10% of your pupils fall for the dark side, you should be able to convert more than that to become relentless, life-long warriors for the good.
All you have to do is recognize the psychopath as such and then reject its rules. I will not ever try to think like a psychopath. It is unhealthy.
And you learn to recognize them… how exactly?
By their actions.
If you mean directly observable actions:
That would most of time be too late, for you.
Sometimes by their actions. Sometimes by a gut feeling. Sometimes by the obvious absence of the ability to feel empathy or the absence of a heart or a soul. It can be as little as a certain look on their faces or in their eyes. We all have that ability to recognize it, you just have to allow it.
Commendable.
I never meet face-to-face most of the psychopaths I have to deal with in some way.
And I have made astounding new progress on many questions I had been stuck on for years, after I learned to think like a psychopath.
(And I have always stated that I wanted to halfways think like a psychopath. [Can’t find a link to an earlier comment of mine, on the quick.] I am way too aware that you cannot ‘close a door’ in your head, to disable certain thoughts when you’d like to. So I stopped looking to learn when I felt about halfway through. —
But I have learned over the years that excruciating detail in comments is… frowned upon in this establishment.)
Amen, actions are much better indicators than words. Think LIES, WORDS MEANT TO DECEIVE. Listen to a man but watch him much more than you listen.
You can do like the fishermen do. If they want fish, they go to the water, because that is where the fish live. When they pull a scaly flopping thing out of the water they know it is probably a fish.
Psycopaths and sociopaths are attracted to power. If there is power to be had in any social structure, they will push others out of the way to get it. Many of them are narcissists and as such are easy to recognize. So if you meet someone who is the president of some company, drives a euro sports car, and tells you how wonderful/rich he is, that’s probably a psychopath or sociopath. The guy who cleans his office probably is not.
BTW, if you own your own company with employees, you will become bit of a sociopath. Your employees will ensure that it happens. You can’t avoid it.
I think a combination of thinking like they do, and recognizing the truth (kind of like bank clerks are taught to recognize a real bill, so the counterfeit will be obvious), might be beneficial.
Thank you for the book recommendations!
Some of us were reading the material in this article and warning of the dangers 40-50 years ago, fat lot of good it did us. We warned and warned…..and warned. Unless you reach the masses with MASS MEDIA you can read your eyes out and you (and only you) will become enlightened. I appreciate the well read, truly.
It will take something so simple, so mindless as to be almost crude to reach the sheep. Got any ideas? F*ck Joe Biden worked fairly well. Writing to tell the informed does not resolve anything. It’s akin to the controllers keeping the keys to power in their club.
We are all well read, now what?
Their empire of lies will collapse under its own weight. It’s painful waiting for nature to take its course, but eventually one of the main struts holding up this pile of bullshit will give and the whole house of cards comes crashing down. Problem is… it’ll wipe most everyone out with it.
Tsub- Well, it sure as shit won’t be a bunch of above average intels reading yet another stack of books that will change the landscape that we see today. I’ve read a great deal of it, some here just had the light bulb click on, and it is beneficial to know the beast you are fighting BUT that is not a game plan.
You can read cookbooks all day, but without a stove or cooking vessel what good is there in that knowledge? The body count continues to pile up, the UNvaxxed will be punished……period. The plan of no plan and reading is beyond useless.
Tsubion, I like your thought but according to the bible there is a phrase. …hurt not the oil and the wine. Oil and wine are pictures of the rich man’s food. If we are truly in the “last times” the rich folks are destroyed in Revelation 18, just before the return of Christ. If perhaps we are only in perilous times your thought may work out if we are strong. I’m sure the answer will be evident soon.
“…We are all well read, now what?…”
Apply the sciences to the man. You were never going to save this world. As painful as this truth is, here is another, even more important truth:
This world is doing exactly, precisely what it was intended to do. That’s because this world is doing the ONLY thing it could ever have done. These events (decay and corruption) come about naturally in the course of time. Wherever there is time, these events will naturally come about.
Time itself is the mechanism which makes all of this (the descent into darkness, madness, evil and chaos) inevitable. ONE THING ALONE will prevent the natural slide into decrepitude and decay.
So, again, what do we do now? We set our ‘time’ and effort and resources to the only principality over which we have any real influence: our own houses and the inward man.
NickelthroweR, a few comments above, brought up Freud. Has anyone here gotten to the bottom of what TRULY serves as the foundation for psychotherapy? The answer to the question comes to us more readily at hand through examination of Carl Jung (Freud’s disciple) and his work. But to know Jung is to know that he was one of the most profoundly evil men to have ever lived in this world. And he wrote obsessively, leaving behind him an immense body of record. But for we who seek, only one book, written in his hand, should be of primary concern. Carl Jung, quite literally, wrote the gospel of The Red. He wrote the most unholy scripture for the children of rebellion against the Living God. Jung was an avowed enemy of Christ in that Jung taught Christ was an insufficient Savior for mankind. Jung argued that because Christ was perfect and man was an imperfect amalgamation of good and evil, that man must also have an imperfect savior — one ALSO amalgamated of good and evil. This amalgamation is the mixing together of light and darkness, which the Living God separated as among His very first acts in Genesis chapter 1. Moreover, God teaches us in HIS Scripture what results from the amalgamation of good and evil. Mix the two together and pure evil is the result. And pure evil was the result of Carl Jung and his life’s work. Unfortunately, the evil bastard left a very deep and dark mark on the psyche of Western Man.
Freud and Jung made their life’s work expounding the subconscious and the unconscious, respectively. The subconscious has its natural analogue in the daily periods of light-mixing: the evening and the morning. The unconscious has its analogue in night and the abyss. Mankind was cut from the clay and made from the earth, but the earth also has seas, which represent the abyss. And it has light, which separates the day from the night. Day = consciousness. Night = sleep and dream. Dreams lend access to the subconscious. The unconscious is beyond our ability to access directly, although the unconscious is that inner darkness THROUGH WHICH we may be accessed by what Jung called the spirit of the depths. The unconscious is also that inner darkness through which Jung’s archetypes work and have their influence.
Also above, commentators ‘m’ and Svarga Loka and Tsubion brought the concept of the psychopath into this thread. Psychopathy is a syndrome of disorder. In the psychopath, the darkness has its primacy over the inner light of day/consciousness. The psychopath is disordered because he worships himself as god; either directly or via a dark image of himself. But when we apply the science to the man, we impose a RIGHT order, a Godly order, a proper order on our inner man.
This is what we can do right now. The outer world stands for us to read as an instruction book. The same things happening out in the world are happening within the inner man. We are powerless to impose order on much (if any) of the outer world, but again, it is an exercise in futility to try and we are not meant to spend our time on futility.
NickelthroweR, a few comments above, brought up Freud. Has anyone here gotten to the bottom of what TRULY serves as the foundation for psychotherapy?
Yes, just below his comment. It’s not that complicated.
anon1- Psychotherapy and the entire field including Freud are joo BS . Created by them and for their benefit. An excellent tool for the commies and control.
Red is very wordy and spins the tale so eloquent but sorry no cigar.
Yes indeed. I said as much in my reply to Niclethrower.
And yes he’s wordy and cigarless.
BL,
Freud created a manual for turning common sense into high level VooDoo called Psychobabble. They take basic forms of selfishness and turn them into disorders they then pretend to treat. One of the first orders of business after Rocefeller took over the Medical Proffession was to begin legitimizing Psychobabble as a medical science and eventually having it accepted by his now fully owned Medical Malpractice Corporation known as the AMA, and given the same status as Medical Doctors. This guarunteed billions of new government pork and spread throughout the country by way of their army of quasi therapists and addiction councillors.
The fine art of turning ordinary resentments into diseases and disorders that one never fully recovers from and therefore dependant on a life of therapy and Pharmica.
Anon1, not sure why you also address yourself but let me compliment you on that comment as it was exact and to the point. Truly, that is what needs to be completely understood about the fields of medicine and psychobabble.
Freud and the rest of the Jedi mindfukers are related and were contracted to run the mindfuk department for the dark side.
Bl that was an accident of my copy and paste. Didn’t notice til you pointed it out.
“…Freud and the rest of the Jedi mindfukers are related and were contracted to run the mindfuk department for the dark side…”
Nothing but true.
“…Red is very wordy and spins the tale so eloquent but sorry no cigar…”
You want to talk about the Jews? Or, rather, those who SAY they are Jews but are not?
RED. EDOM.
I have already referenced the gospel of The Red on this very board. You may extrapolate out from there the full meaning.
That’s what life in this world is reduced to: the story of the twins. The story of the birthright — of he to whom the birthright was granted, but he lightly esteemed it so it was taken from him. But it was taken from him via duplicitous means and awarded (uncleanly) to his brother.
The birthright is consciousness, that is BEING, itself. We may have tasted BEING in this world, but we have not yet become.
Those who say they are Jews would kill us because they think that by so doing, they might re-acquire the birthright they gave away because they were greedy and foolish and were ruled by their own passions.
Know your enemy. But much more important than that…
…know your GOD.
To know God is to know all of these things.
Red, now you have the lock on God also, wow…..you iz smart.
Are you instructed in Scripture, repeatedly, to know your God?
Or not.
I try to do as He tells me to do.
Being vs. Becoming — now that is the crux of the biscuit, not the apostrophe
Now that’s an enigma to me.
What is your way out of those two statements?
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I haven’t managed to read Jung yet, but his statement you purport to quote (at least in gist) I have no major objection to. It can be discussed what “imperfect savior” means and how a “perfect savior” would (need to) differ from that, ok. But I go the other way and say ‘Christ was an imperfect savior [while on earth].’
And if you’d have a perfect savior [on earth], doesn’t that imply man can reach, or at least should strive for perfection too, on earth? But then he would be -at a minimum- extremely close to turning into a psychopath.
“…Now that’s an enigma to me.
What is your way out of those two statements?…”
Christ on the cross was represented in the wilderness by a serpent on a pole. Why? Because MAN is amalgamated with the Serpent from the Garden of Eden. Mankind became mingled with beastkind when Adam consummated his rebellion against the instruction of God. And God made skins for Adam and his wife, whereas before they had none, and banished them to the East of Eden.
The serpent/man on the pole is the serpent/Son of Man on the cross. The red beast blood did not mingle in Christ’s veins: water and blood poured from Him unmixed when His side was pierced.
Therefore, to worship the self is to worship the imperfect god. To worship the self is to worship the Serpent himself, since worship of ANY but the Living God, is a perversion of right order and is idolatry. Thus, there is no essential difference between self worship and bending the knee at the altar of Ba’al/Bel/Satan. Jung, and all like him who have despised their birthright and have despised the order and hierarchy of the Living God, would worship an idol. ANY recipient of worship which is not THE LORD is an idol. The outcome of idolatry will be the same in all cases.
Man should be striving to become remade in the image of the perfect Savior. To do so is to follow the Way. But along the Way, we are always one step or one mouse-click away from deviation which leads to psychopathy, darkness, error, confusion, and the broad path which leads to destruction.
Constant course correction is a necessity of our daily lives. The wilderness lies on either side of the Way. Beyond the wilderness lies the Abyss.
Difficult to decipher your writings.
OK, but where does a perfect God exist?
To me, he/she/it doesn’t exist on earth, except as a concept.
And if we declare that Christ at some point did exist on earth, was he perfect during that time?
I agree.
However I feel that remaking will not happen on earth, i.e. man will not reach perfection on earth.
“…OK, but where does a perfect God exist?…”
I wouldn’t know how to answer that question except to point out the fact that it shouldn’t matter. God does exist. God IS. That is even His name — Hebrew YHWH means ‘He who IS’ and He identifies Himself as I AM. The question of ‘when’ God exists is equally unimportant, because the idea of time is irrelevant with God. God exists in eternity, but eternity is often confused as being a very long time, which it is not. Eternity is the opposite of time.
The Scriptures make clear that Christ did undergo a process of change from the time of His incarnation as an infant in this world. Isaiah tells that He learned:
Isaiah 7:16
For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
Therefore, while Christ was without sin when He walked in the land — sin is transmitted from the father to the child, hence Christ could be begotten by no earthly father –He did undergo a process of perfection. He came to be perfected in His perfect obedience to His Father. What is important is that Christ is perfect now. Moreover, the benefit of His perfection was even had by those who lived before He entered into His own creation. God is not bound by linear chronological time. Consider water — where God is, the water appears to those who behold it as a sea of glass. Flowing water is indicative of the passage of time. Where God is, there is timelessness.
Now the process of being remade in Christ’s image is exactly that, a process, as opposed to an event. The process is ongoing, but it will not be completed in this age. We are to be active and willing participants in this process. This is what it means to be obedient to God. Those who deny or reject this process and declare that God should not rule over them, will get to experience existence without God at the time of their death. These will be brought down to the Pit and experience chaos: destruction in aionian fire, dissolution, darkness and the psychosis which comes from a disintegrating mind and being.
Couldn’t agree more… well stated…
You are basically agreeing with what I said, although you don’t connect all the dots.
Just as God exists in eternity -and there is nothing eternal in the earthly world-, God exists in perfection and there is nothing in perfect existence in the earthly world.
All we have on earth is a concept how to move towards eternal perfection (i.e. being remade in Christ’s image), but that can -obviously- never be reached on earth, not even gotten close to.
That sentence, especially the latter half, to me is the key point of Christian thinking. And from it we can decisively conclude that Christ was not perfect, while on earth.
(And I still have no idea why you so derisively talk about Carl Jung.)
“And from it we can decisively conclude that Christ was not perfect, while on earth.”
What kind of perfection are you talking about?
I’m sure JC must have hit his thumb with a hammer at least once. There goes perfection! He might have even cried out “Shit!”. Who here, besides DS, wouldn’t?
Jesus was aging. Had he not been crucified he would have eventually died of old age. So, the body wasn’t perfection.
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But, what about morally? Was Jesus Morally Perfect?
If not … then how does Jesus save sinners? His death was acceptable to God ONLY because he was without sin, the perfect sacrifice.
>Was Jesus Morally Perfect?
I’d say no. Pretty close, closer then any (true) saint got, but not perfect [on earth.]*
Simply because that’s the central insight of Christianity:
Nothing on earth is perfect. NOTHING.
And the second, even more important, and nicely paradoxical insight from that is:
You can always make things a little better. But ANY attempt towards [larger scale] perfection on earth, even just the declaration of a possibility of perfection on earth, will inevitably make things WORSE.
*that’s why he cried on the cross, for example, goddammit!
Thanks for answering.
The good book pretty clearly states that Jesus was without sin.
What I’m saying is that you’re “no” answer is out of tune with probably 99% of Christian beliefs, regardless of denomination.
NTTAWWT
Being a trailblazer is hard and lonely work. Good luck convincing any Christian that Jesus was morally imperfect.
On earth. You can still make him perfect after he left earth.
And I’ve pointed out several times over the months here too:
The bible was written by… who exactly? Guaranteed-to-be-imperfect humans maybe?
So what the book says… isn’t perfect either.
And while I was developing these thoughts, for a long time I had a problem with the monotheistic aspect of Christianity. If everyone on earth is imperfect, why not a poly-theistic religion? (Maybe because they couldn’t sell that switch, when Judaism was superseded by Christianity?)
But then I realized I was getting stuck at a moot point. Because all humans are imperfect, they can always debate what God (or Christ) would do, and come to slightly different opinions (as it has to be, because of our unfixable imperfection.). Doesn’t need polytheism to keep that open [for the earthly world.] And in the godly world where perfection exists, it’s totally fine to have a single God.
The resurrected flesh and bone Christ was on Earth. Supernatural perfection has indeed set its feet on the soil of this world and will do so again.
Mankind can only be redeemed by a perfect Savior. No perfect Savior? No redemption for mankind.
Monotheism may be an inadequate term to apply to belief in the Living God. The Most High God is ONE. Do we know what that means? Christ is God. The Father is God. But many times in Scripture, the Angel of the Lord is referred to as God. How many is that? One. How many are we? We are not one. We have more than one voice echoing around the halls of our minds… even if all we hear is our own voice doing the speaking. Schizophrenics may be better off than most in that regard. At least THEY can hear the voices speaking and are able to distinguish those voices from their own. We of so-called healthy mind, are unable to hear the voices and thus unable to make the distinction. The self is not one. But God is One.
The Scriptures, as originally written in the original languages, are indeed perfect. The only imperfections to have worked their way into the written Word, are attributable to men. Modern translators and their like are answerable to the same charge Christ made repeatedly throughout the Gospels when He excoriated the lying scribes.
That said, we have at our fingertips, literally, the capacity for gleaning an unadulterated species of the written Word of God — even if it takes a man a lifetime of personal work to attain. God said He would protect His Scriptures, and indeed He has. Does this mean we’ve inherited a pristine and uncorrupted version of the word as bound between leather covers? No. Christ moved from place to place when He taught. Any man who wanted to learn from Him, had to follow Him. Literally. Such is the study of God’s Word today. We run to and fro and knowledge is thereby increased. Behold the internet and the smartphone. All men alive today are therefore without excuse. Any man who doesn’t know, has only himself to blame for own ignorance.
You’ll need to spend some more time thinking about the dangers of introducing perfection back into the earthly world, even just as a possibility.
If you read Del Noce’s “The Crisis of Modernity”, to me at least it becomes clear as air that the central [even though never explicitly stated] thesis, repeated over and over and over again, is (my words) “striving for true perfection [in the earthly world] leads to disaster, guaranteed. Even just declaring the theoretical possibility of such leads to the same.”
In case you haven’t looked it up: Augusto Del Noce (1910‒1989) was one of the most significant Italian Catholic intellectual figures after World War II.
So I will not let perfection be reintroduced into the earthly world, through the back door, in some way.
Meaning the scriptures as conceived may have been perfect. Every written form was imperfect, by definition.
Christ was raised, being perfected, and He was in this world when that happened. Here is the example you ask for. Moreover, concepts and conceptualization, which you mentioned, stand a good chance of being perfect. A perfect concept, even in man’s mind, is conceivable. Because a thing is immaterial does not mean it cannot be in this world. Even if perfection in the immaterial is conceivable, perfection in earthly matter seems to be impossible. However, perfection in non-material or, in the case of the resurrection, super-material is attainable in this world.
Jung was the bringer of a theology diametrically opposed to the biblical narrative of salvation. Jung brazenly and in plain language set himself against Jesus Christ. The book in which he did so most specifically is infamous and only became available to the public in 2012. I am loathe to mention it by name, because it is actually dangerous, in that it was written specifically to be an initiation. I do not say so. The Jungians say so themselves; namely Dr. Murray Stein (et al.) in his interview with Peter Kingsley, which you will find online if you look. Kingsley is a kook and his book on Jung, Catafalque, is a complete waste of time, unless you enjoy multi-volume productions of self-congratulatory flatulence.
In a nutshell, I run the risk of pointing folks to Jung’s infamous work when I speak small of him publicly (especially when they ask why I do so), but I don’t want to be directly responsible for leading anyone into the diabolical concoction he brought back with him from the depths.
Caveat emptor.
>Because a thing [concept] is immaterial does not mean it cannot be in this world.
Because I would never state such.
But the problem is all the imperfect humans wouldn’t recognize it’s perfection (except a few by pure dumb luck), or falsely attribute perfection to some concept that isn’t.
And Christ [on earth] wasn’t a concept, he was flesh and blood.
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Sure, that’s fine, I also have limits where I’m not sharing information that I consider extremely dangerous.
At the same time, I have found God (in my own way, read my answer to Stucky just above), nothing will be able to knock my mindset off that path anymore.
m wrote:
“…I also have limits where I’m not sharing information that I consider extremely dangerous…”
Excellent. There are things which are potentially very dangerous and should only be examined in sequence. Morbid curiosity is never a good enough reason to thwart the sequence. We seem to agree on much.
Two more points: who is the arbiter of morality? Man? Or God alone? If God, then where did Christ fall short? If man, then which man or which group of men? I find morality to be as inflexible as truth itself.
And: Christ was never perfect when He was flesh and blood. He was perfect when He was flesh and bone. Crucial distinction.
God. Because God is the ultimate morality.
Humans because of their imperfection will never ever be able to discern what the ultimate morality really is.
But now something you (and Stucky it seems) will not like:
I learned from Jordan B. Peterson about archetypes*, which he [JBP] said were… maybe not a Jungian invention, but Carl Jung at least made them a cornerstone in his concepts (if I understood JBP correctly.) And JBP gave this sentence, that it seems he had figured out himself: “Jesus is the archetype of the Individual. The worst possible thing happens to the man acting in the best possible way.” I carried that around with me for 2 or 3 months and could only marvel at it. That’s naked truth! Strip away all the irrelevant detail, and – I find it completely irrefutable. Me, a then still atheist for all my life**. And then my curiosity got the better of me, and I thought ‘well if that’s the explanation what Jesus is an archetype of, what are God and the Holy Ghost archetypes of?’ Took me two months to figure it out, but suddenly it all clicked together. And I found God, as described above. And I had been following him, unknowingly and just in a partial, confused way, for all my life.
(And the perfectism/imperfection paradox thingy I only deciphered a year later, with the help of Augusto Del Noce’s book “The Crisis of Modernity.”***)
So for me, it’s ‘Thank you Augusto, Jordan, Carl – without you I’d likely never figured it out.”
*) An archtype is a person, thing, or situation which you cannot make greater, bigger, badder by exaggeration anymore. Heaven or hell are archtypes, as is a dragon.
**) And I remember when -for sightseeing purposes only- I was wandering through a church at around age 10, and suddenly realized that person on the cross had nails driven through his wrists and ankles. And I thought, a bit shocked, what crazy stuff is that religion thingy, to put that as one of their -obviously- highest figures? But over the next few years and without ever consciously thinking about it again, I just accepted it… kind of ‘oh yeah, that’s part of life, not a very nice side of life and on the outer extremes, but nonetheless.’ You subconsciously form those archetypes yourself. But wouldn’t be able to put them in words, for dear life.
***) And a bunch of guys had that figured out 2000+ years ago! Mic drop.
Oh, and on your last paragraph. No idea about that distinction. If “flesh and bone” means in the grave resp. shortly after: yeah, why not. I am not one who believes in the necessity to commence religious war over the question if Christ was resurrected bodily, or in spirit, or “only” metaphorical.
I like Peterson. And I took the time to assess where he goes wrong, which can be distilled to two points:
1. He views the Bible through the lens of Jungian Psychology. That’s a deadly flaw, right there. It’s an inversion; the world and everything in it, most assuredly including Jungian Psychology, must be viewed through the lens of the Bible. If a man does not agree with that assessment, then he inadequately esteems the Bible and doesn’t recognize it for what it is. Also, Peterson (as far as I know and I have looked extensively) never addresses the Jung publication I keep obliquely referencing.
2. Peterson was once asked by an interviewer (I forger which) whether or not he believes that Christ was resurrected in the flesh. Peterson’s answer? “It’s complicated.” He dodged the question. And that highlights the deadly flaw in Peterson’s worldview. He wants to live in the grey. The grey is the amalgamation of the black and the white. The holiness of God demands the separation of the black and the white, that we adhere to the separation of things within ourselves, and that we do not seek to abide in any realm of the grey. The grey is the land of Jungian Psychology. It is the land of con-fusion. Jung was a prophet of the grey…
…perhaps the prophet of the grey.
So you are one of those who believe the question if Christ was resurrected in the flesh is crucial?
I just have nobody ever seen making a clean argument why that is important.
The grey is the color of humanity: imperfect in every way, neither fully black nor white. To insinuate JBP doesn’t want to help us move a little more towards the separation of black and white, both in concepts and earthly reality, would be slander, pure and simple.
But yes I would also like to see Peterson develop further. Especially as I found Del Noce through (forum mention of) a Peterson tweet (seriously!) of a review article of “The Crisis of Modernity”, but never saw a single thought of Del Noce being mentioned in any way by JBP since. How sad is that?
For scripture just as for rule of laws: in the best case you want to understand the original intent underneath it, not stay on the surface and haggle about words or phrases.
And for the institutionalized versions (churches) of Christianity, I have a few choice questions, starting with: what would it need for you to consider reunification with the catholic or orthodox or whatever branch? You have no answer, or only a petrified one from a few centuries ago? You’re a CINO! Go back and learn what Christianity actually stands for.
Following Jung to find God is definitely The Road Less Traveled.
Jung only used God as a tool to explain human behavior … which interested him so as to better manipulate mankind. If he was a disciple of Christ then my cat is a dog.
Then again, folks find God in all manner of ways. Who is to say one way is better than the other? Not me.
I’m guessing Big Red won’t take kindly to your assertion that he doesn’t understand the meaning of Christianity.
“…I’m guessing Big Red won’t take kindly to your assertion that he doesn’t understand the meaning of Christianity…”
I took those words as applied to ‘institutionalized Christianity’ and not to me in particular. I am the antithesis of institutionalized. The Body of which I am a member is not incorporated and is in no wise institutionalized. No incorporated institution, nothing for the Enemy of God to put his hand to.
The very instant we establish a brick-and-mortar group or institution and call it ‘church’…
…the Enemy gets to work twisting and corrupting in his various subtle ways.
The Body of Christ cannot be corrupted because the god of this world can neither see it nor touch it. The Light shines in the Darkness, but the Darkness cannot apprehend it.
Exactly. Thank you.
Red understood it just as I meant it.
My assessment of Peterson is that he is a kind and generous man, who sincerely wants to help people. However, he has taken it upon himself to become their help and has attempted to shoulder a burden which periodically threatens to end him. I understand his impulse to help. But the position is not his to take upon himself. That position belongs to Another, to whom Peterson, if he were wiser, would spend more time pointing. HOWEVER, I also admit that if Peterson were a by-the-book theologian, the audience he reaches would be but a mere fraction of what it is today. And Peterson, as we find him, winds up leading many to search the Scriptures — especially those who had shut the door to the Scriptures and considered the matter settled. In that respect, Peterson is most valuable.
Does it matter whether or not Christ rose from the dead? Here is what matters:
God entered into His own creation and took upon Him the flesh and blood of mankind. The Incarnation.
He lived His life in perfect obedience to the Law of God. He was born of a virgin and had no earthly father. This was crucial, as the sin debt of mankind is transmitted from the father to the child at birth. The sons of men are born unclean and born in sin. Christ was born clean and was not born in sin, as He had the Spirit of God as His Father. He came in the Water of the Spirit and was therefore called the Son of God. He had an earthly mother, herself undefiled by man. He came also in the Blood of mankind and was therefore called the Son of Man.
Only this clean Man could have served as the atoning sacrifice in payment for the sins of mankind. The wage of sin is death. All who die in their sins will see death — which is an experience. Death is not the cessation of consciousness, but is rather the consciousness undergoing dissolution in a realm of utter psychosis, disintegration and chaos. No man is able to extinguish his debt to God, because the crime of rebellion against God carries much too great a cost. Man’s life is not enough to pay; the lives of his children are not enough to pay; there is not money enough in this world to pay. The price is too steep. That price could only be paid by the perfect sacrifice. The Crucifixion. Only the Son of God could satisfy the debt.
The debt paid, death could no longer hold the Redeemer. Death results from the debt. No debt of sin? No death. Death entered into this world as the immediate and ultimate result of sin. Before sin, there was no death.
Therefore, if Christ did not rise from death, then death was able to hold Him because His sacrifice was insufficient to extinguish the debt of man’s sin to God. And if Christ was an imperfect sacrifice, then the debt was not sufficiently paid. EL SHADDAI means ALL SUFFICIENT.
All of these must be true, if not, man has no hope after death:
The Incarnation.
The Crucifixion.
The Resurrection.
So… I am indeed one of those who believes the question of Christ’s resurrection in the flesh is crucial. I believe Christ was who He said He was, that He did the things He came to do, and that His victory over death was final. I believe in the efficacy and and the truth of God’s Word and of His promises. And I believe that any man who does NOT believe these things, will die in his sin.
You… are at least getting close to stating Peterson is trying to become God. Not how I see it. The “burden which periodically threatens to end him” comes from him not reading/understanding Del Noce, so to say, because then JBP would accept his own imperfection and not almost collapse from… not the fact that he got addicted to barbiturates, but the guilt that such happened to him who tries to be a role model in some way. But that’s being human! The fact that he is working hard to overcome his addiction and not giving up, is what counts.
What you further wrote, I can mostly agree with (partially in my own interpretation, I guess) but some things are over the top to me, just as with many “scripture parsers” who -again, to me- lost the sight for the original intent underneath it.
Even if we ignore the question how Mary got pregnant, wasn’t Mary a human? Could she have been perfect? Do we really want to introduce the dichotomy which in german has this nice roll to it “Hure oder Heilige”, in english “whore or [female] saint”? And why do mothers not transmit some debt of mankind to their children?
Humans are twisting themselves in knots on those nuances, completely forgetting being ‘ejected from paradise’ means exactly “perfection is impossible for every human, on earth”!
JBP: “Existentialists say: Immoral things are precisely those things that you CANNOT get away with. That’s why people have identified them as immoral! The consequences of enacting will inevitably bear back on you, or the people you love.”
I am aware that is a bit of a circular argument (but it regularly comes to such on very deep philosophical questions), but it’s the best explanation of ‘moral’ I’ve ever heard.
And then Del Noce put the cherry on top of it with “Existentialism was said to be a new, nicely packaged version of traditional thought, prompted by the confused circumstances of the crisis, or at best (think of Kierkegaard) an expression of the agony of Christianity”, after I had found God.
Christ is who carries the concept of “your guilt [and the guilt of your forefathers and -mothers] can be forgiven.”
It’s the solution to not becoming gnostic, i.e. not saying ‘there’s no way out of this! Why even try. I give up…’
Again, bodily or spiritual or metaphorical death can be looked at separately. Especially if we accept our imperfection – we, the creatures who are looking at those concepts.
Peterson is trying to assume the role of savior because he thinks that’s the right thing to do. In fact, it may be the right thing. But here’s the problem — and this lesson is expounded at some length in Scripture:
Doing the right thing is not enough. The right things must be done for the right reasons. The Pharisees were doing the right thing; they were performing obedience to God’s Law according to a strict understanding and to the best of their abilities. But they did the right thing for the wrong reason — they sought to justify themselves. Same as Peterson. If he seeks to uphold the people he helps, he does so for himself as much as (if not more so) he does it for them. Right thing; wrong reason.
Take also the Apostle Paul, when he taught:
1 Corinthians 13:2
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
This too highlights the principle of doing the right things for the right reasons.
To your comment about Mary — I’m not a Catholic so I have no reason to assert that she was without sin. If Mary was without sin, as taught by the Roman Rite, then she had no need of a Savior. But the Scriptures make clear that she indeed had a Savior. Same as all of us.
Perfection is unattainable by mortal man. That’s the reason for needing a Savior, which you have now highlighted more than once.
There is some truth in what you say about Peterson. But as you also touched on, we have no abundance of people able to open a few other fellows’ eyes. And in a way it is his calling – and at the same time I can also shake my head about some things that drove him, longer ago.
(He basically explained he went into psychology because he wanted to learn how to help stop humanity from obliterating itself, after seeing some The Day After or such popcorn disaster movie. I’m not laughing about the possibility of nuclear war; but already as a not-even-teenager I deep inside understood the fear-mongering in the early 70s had no basis, simply as we hadn’t wiped ourselves out in the 20 years before, and nobody even tried to make an argument why the 70’s were geoplitical much more dangerous than the 60’s and 50’s. The other thing is he named his daughter Mikhaila after Gorbatschew. Nice name, but the reason… oh my oh my.)
Now let me give you another ‘big picture’ that has been going around in my head since I first read it 30+ years ago (can’t remember where.)
There is a psychological model that every human goes through 4 phases in his life, like a pendulum: 1. Right after birth it’s “me, me, me”, hunger, warmth, touch. 2. Within a few weeks it changes to “my position in the social interaction with my mom” and later family and childhood friends. 3. Around puberty it swings back to “me, me”, breaking away from the social circle and becoming a true Individual. 4. The final pendulum swing is you want to “become part of something bigger”, at early- to mid-20s of age. That’s the model, as I remember it.
In all seriousness, when I first read that in my own early- or mid-20s (as a strict atheist), I couldn’t really make sense out of the 4th step. What “bigger” thing exactly? Everything was basically moving in a pretty good direction around me, in my country, and on my continent; in my job I’m someone trying to get things working and/or done, good things, and marriage and kids at some later point… which isn’t really bigger, it’s a partnership with a hopefully very like-minded female. So overall that model’s last step sounded like half-gibberish to me.
Only after realizing around 2013, or shall I say admitting to myself, that the US is on a seriously downhill trajectory without brakes, and trying to start to find like-minded folks wanting to… not even oppose that, but just exchange thoughts, and finding nobody, I started considering getting into contact with truly religious folks. Because even as I couldn’t accept their ‘why’, they did have the right goals on most things. At least on paper. And it started to dawn on me what the 4th phase of the model meant.
After listening to Peterson, who put into words things I often had “known” already, it started to make even more sense. Between finding God and grasping [most of] the key concepts of Christianity, I at last fully understood the model.
And now I can only think: Doesn’t JBP get it?
His work, especially his “Personality and it’s Transformations” university course (fully on YT) and the later derived/expanded tour “lectures”, helped many of his pupils to -finally- make the step from today’s common adult infantilism, to fully developed Individual. Probably several tenthousand people.
But that’s only phase #3 accomplished.
Now he [JBP] should try to take as many as possible into phase #4.
He could do it, if he understood the task.
There’s a fifth stage. I’ve been there a couple years now; Old Man Stage.
“Get off my lawn ya fucken Asshole!!”
That was pretty funny.
I’ll keep it in mind 😀
Jung actually sucked Diseased Donkey Dick on several occasions. Fact!
Aleister Crowley has him beat — though they’re cut from the same infernal cloth.
True.
Red 100 up votes on this clear, concise and well written discourse. Man’s only hope lies in the salvation found in Jesus Christ. You are right that it is unlikely even if a large group of us would be able to alter the course of events that appear to be forming before us.
Hear Hear.
Let’s not complicate it with a bunch of Freudian concepts and other things interesting to the scientific mind but have little value to us.
The Freudian concept of the subconscious is of paramount importance when understanding what man is and how man is made.
The subconscious (as a liminal zone) is directly accessible by us. And we must monitor our subconscious in order to understand what goes on in our unconscious.
ZEITGEIST. The spirit of the times. The very potent evil which has broken free across the land, WILL gain access to our own minds and WILL wield influence over our inner man (directly and indirectly) unless we prevent it.
Lay mines in your yard. String concertina wire around your perimeter. Bar the doors and windows. Arm yourself with guns and ammo…
…do all of these, and you still have done NOTHING to prevent the very real enemy from entering your house. He will enter it through you.
If you let him.
There has been a breech in the city wall. We are to be REPAIRERS OF THE BREECH. This is the work we should be doing right now. The full frontal assault of the enemy hasn’t even begun yet.
Freud was a concieted nutjob who reduced God to the status of lowly Handmaid and elevated Self to godhood.
I only have to understand that Freud and his concepts are just another branch of Babylonian/Kabbalah witchcraft and VooDoo.
I’m not sure Freud’s work is even another branch. It’s just another perspective of the same wickedness.
It was just different enough to fool Western Man into failing to see the same old Babylonian dark arts which have been practiced from the beginning. But Jung perfected Freud’s evil work. Jung attained the process of Individuation, and then he set about attempting to impose that process on everyone else.
Anon1- I once asked a regular poster here (Plato Plubius) who is a sociologist, WHY would WE ever need sociologists?? Never got a answer, I miss ole’ Plato. He knows that I know that that crap is for the benefit of the owners.
I wonder what happened to Plato. A lot of old hands have moved on. Degrees in uselessness as Celente calls them. My late brotherinlaw had a PHD in sociology and worked as a prison guard at Rahway because the pay and status were better as a guard.
Rothschild/Rockefellers army of misinformation peddlers.
“It will take something so simple, so mindless as to be almost crude to reach the sheep. Got any ideas?”
Yes I have an idea. It will require a shock to the system so great that God himself will have to intervene to preserve humanity. Despite the great tribulation coming upon us they will not give up their sorceries.
40 years ago I was warning that one could rent all the 6 year old boys and girls your pocketbook could tolerate right in Manhattan. Only to be told “surely you exaggerate”. Ever wonder who invented and spread NAXALT?
anon1- THE ONLY WAY to kill the beast is to defund it, the French like to add the the extra touch of burning down the tax offices and tearing up the banks. Also refusing to work the corporate slave jobs is a start. Praying is the best route but people only start praying when it looks completely hopeless and we are not there yet for everyone.
Defunding the beast might have worked in 2008 but once we allowed the creation of unlimited fiat that is no longer a solution. Taking the French route would defund the beast but without a plan and some unity of purpose the effort would be hijacked. I doubt more than a small fraction will pray when TSHTF now.
I wouldn’t mind being wrong but so far I haven’t seen anything I would get my hopes up over.
The Bloodlines are about to introduce real down and dirty Feudalism but with Dickensonian Gin and Chinese Opium I doubt more than a few of us will even blink.
NO Anon1, I mean literally WE defund the BS. Stop paying for the cell phone control grid, the corporate drive thru BS, the Wallyworld BS. Granted we will not be able to get this done but after a great many more stupids have left the world, those with backbone and smarts will have more of an opportunity. I’m guessing they will come down hard on the higher intels who are not in favor of being the servant class.
There is lots of great infomation on sights like these. Unfortunately the low information people in this world don’t come to these sites. I have family, friends and neighbors I try to en0lighten and I am just a right wing nut job. The only people who will ever agree with us is people who already agree with us. Perhaps a few of the younger crowd who have become disillusioned by current events may join us. We are on our own and until we get down to .308 or larger there will be little change.
Balb- Your wallet is mightier than your .308.
I have dropped out of the economy except for absolute necessities. No Christmas, no cellphone, no TV, No vacations, concerts nor the like. I am comfortable and that is enough. Just waiting for my Savior to take me home as I try to do His will as best I can.
Balb- Good man….now if we can get millions of Merikans to STOP buying anything past food and complete necessities like you, we’re in bidness.
I don’t bother trying to warn the masses anymore. Gave that up a couple years ago or so. I just try to prepare to rebuild after the collapse, teach my grandsons (their parents are too far gone), and mingle with like minded Christian people who are aware. Vaccinated sheep are already dead to me as far as I’m concerned. They made their choice and will face the consequences of that choice.
Random- At least your children will still give you access to your grandchildren, some have little or no opportunity to see theirs.
3 chapters in, excellent so far…
Blasts from the past! Please add Hilaire Belloc’s The Free Press to the list.
Speaking of books, I picked up my latest from the PO: “The Five Stages of Collapse” by Domitry Orlov
He complains about us Westerners wasting water in our toilets!!! Says its a terrible waste of water. That’s about the only thing I disagreed with him on.
I think the flushing toilet and indoor plumbing is man’s greatest technological achievement!! It’s all downhill from there.
Maybe he’s subconsciously projecting since Russian toilets, even at the Sochi Olympic venue warned toilet users NOT to place tissue into the toilet, but into a waste basket…bad engineering.
falcon- It is valuable to read the account of someone who lived through a collapse. Orlov’s site had the five stages posted continuously, haven’t been there for years so don’t know if he still has that up on the homepage sidebar.
Got Jesus? If you don’t, I don’t see how you can deal. Just sayin’……………..it’s how I see it.
If you got something else goin’, power to ya.
Nothing else gets it done. There is but ONE way to do this thing right. And He is the Way.
Ditto again.
I wonder why “He” didn’t get it done while the millions of souls were murdered in the last year and a half. And then the deliberate injection in young people of something that either killed them or forever damaged their hearts, tens of thousands of young people. Potentially much of the planets population could die by next year, I’ll be watching for divine intervention.
You’re thinking too small when it comes to God, BL. I don’t particularly care either to see what is, and has, happened to all of us supposed innocents down thru time, but that’s the problem – our corrupted view of innocence, and God’s, are different…
Anon- I consider children innocent, unless you think they should be punishment for the sins of their parents.
Children are born corrupt, themselves at the center of everything, greedy, self-willed, and very beastlike.
Children need to be raised and taught out of these things. If not, then we get utter beasts like the classic urban example (whom God made beastlike even in appearance FOR A REASON) of the sons of Cush.
Children are by no means innocent.
Very selfish little creatures born of sinners into sin.
Many do believe though that they are given a free pass by God scripturally up to an age of accountability when He determines each of us are capable of making our own conscious decisions regarding faith or unbelief in Him.
What to do, what to do? I do believe we are in for a few hundred years of another Dark Ages. Either that or Jesus is coming soon. Or their is no God and depopulation is on the horizon.
Hosea 6:2
After Two Days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Right on schedule, Glock-N-Load. Precisely. The children of rebellion have made their move. This is for all the marbles. They come close. But they will be stopped.
Christ was raised on the third day.
The beginning of the Third Millennium will mark His return. There are many ways in Scripture to support that calculation.
Hosea, Peter and you nailed it Red River D.
Stucky,
Now that someone obviously much more educated and intellectual than myself said the exact same thing I’ve been saying about Hosea 6:2 for the last few years will you be more inclined to believe it or at least take it under more serious consideration?
Yes, there is no stopping what’s coming, UNLESS God wants it stopped… Chip
Agreed..I’m going for door #2.
You know I always thought about writing a dystopian novel that might one day be looked back on as almost prophetic–sort of like Orwell and/or Huxley. I was going to base it upon the unfolding of Bible prophecies about the latter days.
Now I think that I’ve waited too long to get started.
There was no dark age. WTF won’t this myth die?
I know, right?
It was one of the most stable eras in human history.
What age was stable, smart ass ?
A good read, A Guide To The Phantom Dark Age
I’d guess that you are a believer in one of the “missing centuries” hypotheses. I really only ran across this in the last few months, but the concept is intriguing.
Conventionally, the ‘Dark Ages’ were so named because there were next to no written European records from the period between the final Fall of Rome, and the emergence of the Frankish kingdom and Holy Roman Empire. The ‘missing centuries’ concept I’m familiar with simply states that the gap between European events in the late Fifth Century and those in the late Eighth Century were not ‘Dark’, but simply did not exist, because there was no such gap, only major confusion of the dating of what scant records remain to us ‘moderns’.
Still more bullshit.
Contrary to the Dark Ages myth, medieval European Christians cultivated the idea of “laws of nature,” a logic friendly to science, the science of motion, human dissection, vision-light theories, mathematical analysis of nature, and the superiority of reason and observational experience (sometimes even experiment) over authority in the task of explaining nature.
Medieval trailblazers also invented self-governing universities, eyeglasses, towering cathedrals with stained glass, and much, much more. Although labeling any age with a single descriptor is problematic, the so-called Dark Ages would be far better labeled an “Age of Illumination” or even an “Age of Reason.”
Michael N. Keas is Lecturer in the History and Philosophy of Science at Biola University and a Fellow of Discovery Institute’s Center for Science & Culture. His new book is “Unbelievable: 7 Myths About the History and Future of Science and Religion.”
https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/michael-keas/atheisms-myth-christian-dark-ages-unbelievable
High five from me.
The dark ages were not very dark just as the Enlightenment wasn’t too enlightened…
If Orwell were alive today, he might apologize for underestimating the degree of the clusterfuck.
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As always, folks, read the Key Words at the end of the article. There’s some really funny descriptions there! Like, “CNN are Rogan’s bitches” … Haha, truth!
The tags are gold, and hilarious.
If someone wants to tackle this …
HOW did Orwell know that things were going to be so terrible? Were things that bad in 1949, four years after WWII ended?
America was the world’s lone Superpower, the golden age of prosperity was dawning, and Boomers were toddlers. Oh, wait … Boomers, you say? Hmmm ….
Huxley, Orwell, Zamyatin… William Gibson (Neuromancer) all were students of history. Learn history as well as these fellas and you’ll be able to see a trajectory. From any point in a ‘present’ that trajectory can be projected into the future. That’s how these guys were able to call what was coming with practically prophetic clarity.
Neuromancer gives away the game, if you want to know what Satan is:
…I am that which knoweth not the Word…
And the Wachowski freaks ripped off Neuromancer to a shameful degree when they wrote their Matrix trilogy.
Check the above link for some interesting insight into the Wachowski freaks. It is not surprising they stole material as they are certainly not the caliber of intellectual who could birth something like the ‘Matrix’. Thanks Red R for all the good info. I’m looking fwd to reading some of your suggestions.
I had read somewhere that one of the Wachowskis had stated ‘The Matrix is essentially Gnostic.’ (I tend to agree.)
Now if that is true and was really stated (not just parroted) by one of the Wachowski brothers, then they are no dummies.
You might as well state that The Matrix concept was stolen from Plato’s Cave.
FWIW I have zero doubt that Hollywood movers and shakers will steal any idea they think they can get away with stealing.
I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts after you read some of these fellas. They’re three of my favorites — possibly my top three.
Stucky- You ask how did they know things would get this bad?? They worked for the entertainment department (CIA) or OSS which was prior. The scripts are written far,far in advance.
Orwell himself had been to war, and saw firsthand the evil that men do.
You only feeling is of the rifles recoil and your only regret is not taking more enemy with you on the road to death.
Once across that rubicon, there is no return…like the covid-Jew-jab that will continue murdering countless victims in the future.
It took the better part of last year but I finally finished The Collected Essays, Journalism and Letters of George Orwell (Harcourt, Brace & World).
Anyone who is interested in how he came to his revelations in regards to the direction of the future would do well to take the trip through time- it is arranged chronologically- and watch as his young mind and exceptional talent began to mature with his exposure to the real world. It is a stunning glimpse into the mind of a gifted writer committed to understanding the world as it was rather than as we are told it is by those who control The Narrative.
Down and out in Paris and London as well as the Road to Wiggam Pier are excellent reads as well.
Orwell didn’t just go to war, he went (as a true believer) to an ideological war, not only seeing first hand the usual industrial gore, but seeing allies betrayed and directly killed, and massive lies told, in order to keep the ‘ideologically correct’ in power.
Not sure about 1949, but in the early 40s things were really bad. And I’m not talking London bombing or such.
George Orwell had worked in one of the greatest of all world centers of Fake News. And he knew it.
What did Orwell and Huxley have in common? They each belonged to their ‘own’ secret society. And each … channeled.
Christ is the only answer. Everything else is vanity. The horses are out of the barn and the trumpets are sounding.
“suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience”
Loving their servitude.
MONEY SHOT! There is no better description of most Americans than that. The American Mind — under siege and taken captive.
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Last comment. I would like to comment on every paragraph … such a great article, Jim …. but, I won’t, praise the Lord.
I responded to you Stuck, in the other thread.
Here’s the idea of servitude, as manifested in complacency, by Huxley.
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“That humanity at large will ever be able to dispense with Artificial Paradises seems very unlikely…Art and religion, carnivals and saturnalia [ancient Roman pagan festival], dancing and listening to oratory – all these have served, in H.G. Wells’s phrase, as Doors in the Wall…Under a more realistic, a less exclusively verbal system of education than ours, every Angel (in Blake’s sense of that word) would be permitted as a sabbatical treat, would be urged and even, if necessary, compelled to take an occasional trip through some chemical Door in the Wall into the world of transcendental experience.
If it terrified him, it would be unfortunate but probably salutary. If it brought him a brief but timeless illumination, so much the better. In either case the Angel might lose a little of the confident insolence sprouting from systematic reasoning and the consciousness of having read all the books…But the man who comes back through the Door in the Wall will never be quite the same as the man who went out…
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“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.”
Gosh, you write about all this as though you’re offended or something. Just writing about means you accept it you know. Do something if you will, but words means acceptance, opposition of the weak, yes, but acceptance at bottom. Dolt! Show the way! Get off your high literary horse, cowboy, and DO something. Or are you just words, Brittany?
You lead, asshole. Maybe others will follow. But you writing about it and not doing it show acceptance. Dolt! Show the way.
Don’t you just love those internet warriors telling everyone they’re chickenshits who need to get out there and DO something. They flail away on the computer and do nothing themselves except for some vigorous typing and yet they have the gall to tell others to get out there and Do something,
Yo, Walter, Chickenshit, you first…lead the way, show us how it’s done….
As far as leading goes, it has been an observation that when I stand I always stand alone.
Stand and the devil flees.
Walter posts exactly what an FBI plant would write.
Paraphrasing: ” start a revolution, call your readers to armed violence or societal disruptions and quit spreading the info about our subversive plans”
How quickly everyone on this site would go on no-fly and watchlists. This site and all of the great insight that is reported would be shut down and lost for the potentially awakened.
If Admin we’re to act as Walter says he should, it would be exactly what any deep stater would love to see.
What the unstable and weaker-minded tend to do is take their firearms to a local bank branch, shoot two tellers, one customer, and themselves.
Unfortunately, this does not really constitute taking on the ‘Davos Crowd’…..
Seriously, that is so fucking stupid, I just have to point it out again. Some fuckwit comes on and says writing means you accept it. I guess irony is beyond the 10 IQ points this moron possesses.
LOL, so you’re telling us you find nothing to criticize in Admin’s article?
Like falling for the propaganda several times, the one he derides a paragraph earlier or after?
I’m not pointing fingers here, go find it yourself.
Another illiterate. I said no such thing. But of course, as a moron, you missed that and made shit up instead.
I didn’t state anywhere that you wrote such a thing.
But if OP says “Just writing about means you accept it you know” and goes way over the top, and you shred him; but at the same time Admin writes/repeats some obvious propaganda fallacies and you say nothing about that anywhere here in the thread…
Then I do LOL.
You said “ so you’re telling us you find nothing to criticize in Admin’s article?”
That is exactly what you said, so you are a lying piece of shit. I never said nor implied such a thing. If l have a quibble with what the Admin says, and I want to voice it, I will say so quite clearly, which he well knows.
And as you haven’t said so quite clearly, can I deduct you find no quibble/nothing to criticize [here]?
Once again, you piece of shit, you leave off “and I want to voice it, and will say so quite clearly.” . What the fuck is wrong with assholeS like you? If I want to say something, I will say it. I have zero obligation to make my opinion known one way or another, and your bullshit attempts to put words in my mouth are simply that. And if I want to say something I will not make up shit like cocksuckers like you do.
Can you deduce I think you are low life scum?
And If you don’t want to say something, you won’t say it, I assume.
So my LOL stands as called.
Sometimes things are not said because those listening already know….
Sometimes things are not said because the audience is already closed up in their mind and will not hear.
Sometimes not saying anything unless it has substantive value is the path of wisdom– clearly something you have not learned yet troll.
Exactly! We do not point out the flaws in each other’s thinking, because… that is wisdom.
As a famous clinical psychologist pointed out: your realfriendstell you what is wrong with you.
Dismissing all other aspects of this encounter here, while attacking me for telling Llpoh the truth… yeah well.
Sure Guys, toss you sophmoric snipes back and forth while the bad guys keep marching forward…
Yess! We need philosophy that acts, as Marx already stated.
Stop this useless throwing around of ideas!
“yess”.. pronounced like a snake hissing.
“We need philosophy” like psychology and sociology, a great amount of time and talk doing nothing.
“As Marx stated”.. quoting Marx to rally the troops…
We know who you are from your prior incarnation writings.. instead of changing monikers, maybe change your ill-placed arrogance.
Javelin- +100 nailed it.
“If I have failed to live by the dictates of my conscience (and we have all failed at that to some degree) then the temptation to externalize blame can become well-nigh overwhelming. Otherwise, there is too much to admit to, to abandon, to sacrifice. So the failure becomes the revolutionary so that he can stand looking at himself in the mirror. And then he capitalizes on that revolutionary romanticism, adopting the position of heroic and misunderstood outsider, playing the role of the creative transformer, with none of the talent, skill, discipline or wisdom to manage such a dangerous position without catastrophe. And then, maybe, he welcomes the catastrophe, too, as revenge against the world that made him lie so uncomfortably in the bed he so badly made.”
Guess who wrote that.
“… Admin writes/repeats some obvious propaganda fallacies …”
Be specific! What “propaganda fallacies” is Admin repeating??
Because if that’s what he’s doing I’m just gonna have to nail his ass to the wall.
But, if you’re just spreading bullshit, it will be your ass in need of a good reaming.
Propaganda? Prove it!!
If you insist (remember, I said I didn’t want to point fingers. You asked me.)
1. A virus, released accidentally or purposely from a Chinese bio-weapon lab
Bullshit.
‘A virus, released accidentally or purposely from a Chinese or any other bio-weapons lab’
would be a lot closer to the knowledge we now have.
2. implementing a social credit system styled after the communist China totalitarians they admire
That’s 3-in-1, but only two are clear propaganda fallacies.
“Communist China”: unless we want to go Orwellian with words ourselves, could we look at things as they are today with open, unbiased eyes? China is now about as “communist” as Singapore. And about the US, for comparison, look at the 10 Planks (here or find your own source) and make a scorecard where the US stands today.
“China totalitarians”: what exactly makes them totalitarians – if you look beyond the west-exhibited ‘Chinese “defectors”‘ which funnily never have a single positive word to say about China, but almost unlimited negative things?
(And on the “social credit system” I still have too little information to make a confident call, but as I distrust everything touted in the West these days, it’s probably also exaggerated bullshiff.)
3. The un-vaxxed will soon be treated like the Uyghurs in China, placed in internment camps until we see the light
Oh, because the Uyghur concentration camps (let’s not mince words here) are a proven fact – you know, just like Assad’s gas attacks on his own population?? (or shall I practice remembrance of Colin Powell here…)
There you go!
And -seriously-, in a way thanks-for-asking. Nobody else asked.
(Edit: I didn’t downvote you.)
You listed just three things … and they all have to do with China! And China was only an incidental part of the story.
You seem to be a China protector. Are you married to a Chinese woman?
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Why won’t I answer your objections? I was most just interested in what they were.
It’s Admin’s article … he can refute them if he wishes.
Or, someone else can refute them … maybe someone who lives in an island continent that is about to be taken over by the Chinese. Then again, they may not bother because, as you say — China is a wonderful country who hates Communism and never persecutes anybody, and the people are free as eagles.
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Warning: The above comment may contain sarcasm.
Nope. (And remember -I said it here several times-, I’m trying to emigrate to Russia.)
And I thought the US is a wonderful country who hates Communism and never persecutes anybody, and the people are free as eagles.
Silly me!
Russia will never fully trust China. They share a long border, and eventually 1.3 Billion (and counting) Chinese may decide they MUST have those juicy Siberian resources. I believe they are already several dozen Chinese cities on the Siberian border with greater than one million population.
However … Russia and China are signing multi billion dollar deals all over the place. The arrogant control-freak bullying of their common foe has them united, and that will probably stay that way for quite some time.
Nevertheless, if you do go to Russia … learn Chinese as well, just in case.
You sarcasm regarding the US was pretty funny.
That would be very wise, by Russia, yes. But -just as against the US- the Russian military now seems to have weapons no enemy can counter. For now.
Yes, I believe Putin at first also didn’t at all like the idea to get closer with China. But he was forced into going that route, and altogether I think he feels it turned out much better than expected. The really interesting point will come when China produces US/Taiwan-level (or better) chip technology (some serious people say in 2-3 years), will they export without limits to Russia?
Thanks, but thanks, I have a hard enough time learning Russian right now.
Thank you.
My dad spoke and wrote fluent Russian. He tried to teach me. Took me a month to count to 10 and say a few phrases. He told my mom I was a moron. Not kidding.
He spoke about 7 languages fluently. At one job there were several Spanish workers. He never spoke Spanish before. Within a couple months he could hold a regular conversation with them. He had a gift! I did not. This disappointed him. WTF? Well, he couldn’t code in Fortran. Dumbass.
I got a D in Fortran in my freshman year in college. And I cheated to get a D.
It’s OK, Stucky passed with battle hardened Fortran IV on a nice Philco 212 but you had an overly time-shared PDP 11/40 with the intern written Fortran 77 beta compiler.
Somewhere I saw a “learn whatever language in X months” video (such I usually skip already after reading the headline, but for whatever reason I watched it a bit), and the guy stated you need to have someone (or several) to talk to in the new language daily, and who are willing to put up with your kauderwelsch/gibberish, two weeks after you started leaning.
I think he has a very good point!
But I still don’t have such. Rumors have that it’s easy, over youtube amateur language learning videos, to find a Russian (in Russia) to do regular zoom/whatever with. With your credit card at hand, of course.
I learned the Cyrillic alphabet, in reading, writing, speaking, in 2 weeks. Numbers 1-10 are easy, 11-20 is harder. But the weekdays! Even with an ingenuous youtube video Monday=”Pony day, Nick!” = ponydjelnik = понедельник it took me 3 weeks to learn those…
I now watch the news or slow talking talk shows and try to identify words I do not know, type them -guessing their spelling- into Goolag translate and see if I can decipher it.
I’ve made major progress, I can understand about half the words spoken, but often not in the speed they’re talking, and still not enough words to really get their sentence meanings, most of the time.
I thought of myself as completely untalented in languages for most of my life, but maybe I’m quite Ok.
Walter Johnson- Are those of us telling our employers to piss off over the vax mandate doing something? Does that qualify, meet your criteria ? Seems to me that millions of us are walking it like we talk it.
If there are millions, you win. But there aren’t.
LLPOH- Your comment doesn’t make sense. I win regardless, and I win even if I’m the only man in America taking this approach. Which obviously, I’m not.
I’ve studied a lot of history and I can’t recall any maniac starting a war that he didn’t think he was going to win. No one starts a war knowing they are going to be destroyed.
Whoever is running this shitshow has declared war on the American people. For whatever reason, someone has decided that the American people need to be beaten down back into slavery. I can’t tell you who this is or what the motives are but the end results speak for themselves.
But, and this is important, history is but a chronological retelling of events that were NOT supposed to happen. Marathon was not supposed to happen. Cannae was not supposed to happen. Midway was not supposed to happen. The people that have created all of this chaos for us over these last two years are not omnipotent as they believe and, perhaps, are just now realizing that this event is not going as planned.
Our opponent in this conflict has taken some terrible losses. Afghanistan was an undeniable catastrophe. There is no way to put a positive spin on what happened. You could no more put a positive spin on it than the Nazis could their defeat at Stalingrad.
Vaccine hesitancy (refusal) was not how these klowns thought this would play out. Now they have to deal with irrefutable proof that the vaccines don’t do anything what-so-ever but increase the harm. It is as impossible to hide as the burning Hindenburg falling out of the sky.
It would appear that the vaccinated are getting sick just around the time that it is obvious that inflation isn’t transitory and that the store shelves are beginning to look empty. They can run the ports 24/7 and it isn’t going to help. They can print money to the moon and it isn’t going to help.
But some wars, projects, operations are set in motion with the preplanned knowledge that they will fail. Destruction can be used to clear a path allowing for radical change that would be impossible otherwise. War (especially false flags) can be used to undermine an enemy of your choosing while you sit back in your swiss castle sipping brandy. Nothing is what it seems in human affairs. Even the vaxx hesitancy will be twisted and morphed into the next psyop and so forth until people will be so mentally exhausted (like pavlovs dogs) that they will literally lie down wherever they are and wait to be carted off to the camps.
If we are to fight back, we have to walk through the corpses of legions upon legions of human-cattle that form the “elites” muscles and giving them near infinity power that they are having now. And before you ask wherever you can do it or not, are you really willing to do so?
“The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.”
Sun Tzu
It is always fun to read articles that compare and contrast Orwell with Huxley. I hope the author will remember that Officer Chauvin was convicted by a jury of his peers for murder. Floyd had an unseemly criminal background but he was not a murderer and had paid his debt to society something like 11 years prior. The drug war nanny state created the fertile ground of policies involved with cv 19. These policies are promoted and created by the ama and our everyday doctors. After more than 100 years of products vanishing from store shelves now you should be used to it. What did you expect? Our everyday doctors participate and promote these policies through the modern day guilds and everyday practice. They are guilty of violating Nuremberg Code, murder, mass murder and promoting child abuse just to name a few of their crimes. They have lied about cv 19 serums all the way through shamelessly promoting them. They have refused reasonable request for medications which are safe and effective compared to the murderous shots they recommend.
Jim says he paid his debt. I dislike the term. He was punished for what he was caught doing, and likely insufficiently. Imagine all he did and didn’t get caught. He was scum.
Jim. Convicted by a jury of his peers? That was a staged PPV event. As for being murdered on TV by a Cop. You’ve never seen a person being suffocated in real life.
the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny (Neil Postman)
Isn’t one of the greatest mysteries: where are those folks nowadays?
We are here. Just not many of us. Eagles don’t flock.
Fighting back means not participating. When someone asks you if you saw the latest game or movie, or anything else from potemkin world, simply respond politely, Sorry, I do not participate. Gather only with fellow cultural secessionists.
I agree.
Not participating is just a first step, without the ability to cause pain and dead to the enemies, you are a sitting duck for their endless assault.
Further down the line your statement will be correct. Now is time for caution . If we start shooting first it might not work as well. The cause of right should be perceived by the other side as right even as demented as they are. People may be doing something and in their hearts realize they are wrong and change sides. A thin hope, but still a hope.
Bingo…
Fighting back also means evaluating the person and making a determination on whether they are open to the truth or merely zombies. If zombies then not engaging them is best, but if they are merely ignorant of the truth then discussion is a better option. Planting seeds of hope.
>>>Fighting back means not participating.
One reason to either not possess a TeeVee at all, or at least be extraordinarily selective in what you or (God forbid) what your children watch.
Don’t blame a clown for acting like a clown…
Ask yourself why you keep going to the circus.
August-very well said!
Watching the video of Floyd being murdered was horrifyingly gruesome. Possibly the darkest moment of video ever released to the public on a wide scale. Even members of the crowd as they watched the murder pleaded for Chauvin to “ease up”. But there are expectations for cops to enforce the everyday common doctors policies handed down through their modern day guilds. This one just happened to be caught on video. And because of the dishonest methodology we may never know the true extent of the murder, child abuse, mutilation and suffering thrust upon humanity through the medical order.
If you really believe that second sentence, it’s over. (I.e. you probably cannot be saved anymore.)
Millions are killed around you by witholding Ivermectin et al., but hey – that’s not shown in explicit detail on camera! Well, Bret Weinstein’s “Crime of the Century” DarkHorse podcast
did show it, if you looked closely.
Enjoy your ‘worshipping the devil.’
Great podcast/video… had it playing while I worked today. Others in our small office listened along and couldn’t agree more
wowsers dude, what is up with you lately?!?!?
While I don’t agree with Jim’s assessment, floyd issue, entirely, and theres some hyperbole perhaps, its no reason to go full attack mode.
Seriously!?!?
I agree that the killing of millions with this scamdemic is the ultimate crime perpetrated upon the world by a few very evil people, it in no way means that those not seeing it as you do are worshipping the devil.
I get the frustration and intolerance. Just lost a long time friend to ‘covid’, killed by a hospital. I’m angered by the zombies that insist I comply to their mental illnesses but I have to keep reminding myself they are blinded by the god of this world. Some days its better to just walk away, or stand the line, look them in the eyes and not speak.
And some days it’s better to throw a truth bomb.
Believe it or not, I wrote that reply to Jim in an entirely composed, calm state.
Soooo you think he’s worshipping the devil and probably cannot be saved???
If thats your stance then I’d say you are far off the mark. Certainly not a biblical position…
I’m not a bible waver.
You probably have a wild understanding what “worshipping the devil” means – but it’s basically just a mindset. (Nonetheless, the existence of the term is entirely justified.)
“Probably cannot be saved” just states he [Jim] will likely never change his mind anymore. At least not from reading articles here or discussions. Maybe when the devil knocks on his own door, so to speak.
“The truth is almost always simple. Only the lies are complex.” -my own quote
You are making assumptions based on what??? By claiming to not be a bible waver are you also making a claim that I am, or others who may disagree with you??
Can’t waste any more time as the day is new and I have very few days left where I can work outside before winter chases me back indoors.
Just say’n, between team mates, that sometimes its wiser to hold the tongue.
You brought biblical position into the discussion, not me.
I made a guess what you were trying to say about me, with that.
The wild understanding is completely unrelated to that, and just is about the term ‘worshipping the devil.’
Anything else I need to clear up?
I was referencing that Floyd’S murder was caught on video. In my first post above I referenced products disappearing from the shelves, ie ivermectin among them, ie its unavailability, ie that is a bad thing. Sorry if you did not get that. I have heard a lot of interviews where family members could not get ivermectin while in the hospital. Very sad! I do not worship the devil and do not know where you get that idea but think it somewhat funny. Hope you have a good day.
Enjoy your funny worshipping the devil.
Did you see almost 80 people get burned alive by the ATF and FBI in Waco in 1983? And depending on what you choose to research and believe, see them get executed if they tried to escape out the back?
How about any footage of the second Iraq war? Psychopaths like Brian Williams comment on how “beautiful” the US missiles look as they’re launched from the sea hundreds of miles away. But the media never covers the other end, or the “collateral damage” of dead civilians and children. Close to 200,000 by some estimates.
On an individual level, did you watch policeman Philip Brailsford murder Daniel Shaver in a hotel hallway in 2016? That particular officer’s rifle had an inscription of “You’re fucked” on it. He walked.
There’s plenty more examples. Even if the Floyd situation made the list, Chauvin was convicted. What more do you want and what’s your point?
>>>did you watch policeman Philip Brailsford murder Daniel Shaver in a hotel hallway in 2016?
Anyone who hasn’t seen that video should watch it.
One thing I learned from it is, if you ever happen to find yourself interacting with armed, stressed-out cops shouting confused and confusing commands, just lie on the ground and stop ALL movement; go catatonic. Ideally you’d piss your pants, too… they may decide you really are harmless, and not going for a hidden weapon.
ife when they immobilize a drug addled black criminal resisting arrest who died of an overdose, seemed completely uninterested in even trying to identify the cop who murdered Ashli Babbitt”
First, I am not trying to be overly critical of the author. It was an excellent article! But the point I am trying to make is that it was murder and not some lame attempt to “immobilize” or an “overdose.”
Second, I am not trying to take away from other atrocities or say one is worse than the other. What happened at Waco was even worse considering kids were inside, more people…. But as a viewer I only saw a fire. I did not see anybody actually burning or charred remains,,,, hope that clarified a little.
My wider point of my posts is that. a nanny state was created that centered around controlled substances. It was for your own good so they tell you. This is a very slippery slope. But if you like tgat sort of reasoning you will love it when they inform you that for your own good you can no longer get so much as ,22lr not to mention ivermectin or anything else. In fact they may decide they love you so much that all shelves everywhere need to be empty at all times, as the incrementalization process has worked out so
well,
Maybe you like that not only are you told what you cannot have but you also want them to tell you what you absolutely will have. That is what they are doing. “the amount of tyranny you will get is what you will put up with.”-Jefferson. Personally I would prefer no tyranny at all.
Apologies if you do not like the message. I am just the messenger.
Also bare shelves may be coming sooner than a lot of people think. If we all do not get jabbed to death a probable stop along the way after the electric and utilities go off is probably the 1800s. This will likely be followed by ww3 which will take us to the dark ages. Tyranny often does not end well. I suppose the founders were to far ahead of their time.
Well you stated your message load and clear.
I think we can summarize it with
“Things are generally moving in the right direction in the US, just not fast enough. Small errors such as on Ivermectin will be corrected soon and/or will become a footnote in history, especially if enough other people won’t put up with it.”
Well yeah, the larger issue is that concepts of tyranny and self responsibility are not compatible.
Yes, and some people are realizing that. Others, not so much.
Excellent post as always Jim. My wife says I could have written this part…
Everything is fake. I don’t believe anything I’m told by the government, the media, medical “experts”, politicians, military leadership, bankers, corporate executives, religious leaders, financial professionals, and anyone selling themselves as an authority on any subject matter. We are truly living in times of mass deception, mass delusion, and mass willful ignorance.
Looking forward to Part 2… Chip
“The un-vaxxed will soon be treated like the Uyghurs in China, placed in internment camps until we see the light, unless we start to fight back NOW.”
OMG !!! What crazy conspiracy tin foil theory shit !!! Reminds me of this wack job from September 2019.
https://youtu.be/wV9Rl6d2Mys
Everythings fine. People chest feed. People have vaginas and people get pregnant too. Everything is normal. No worries .Sweet Uncle Joe’s got this. although he doesn’t drive . He leaves that to Kamala .
He is and has always been so creepy.
I don’t think it’s really a fair comparison to compare Huxley and Orwell. Actually they were both correct. Huxley is what happens in the beginning and Orwell is what happens in the end.
Or Huxley has it right for the jab-o-philes, and Orwell has it right for the rest of us.
I think he said that.
The best way to counter the decline is to be a part of something ascendant.
They lie, tell the truth.
They use, we produce.
They promote isolation, we create community.
The past week we’ve had sixteen different people, some from hundreds of miles away, come up to work with us for a few hours on the farm and talk about solutions rather than to complain about the problems. What was accomplished in those hours spent sharing information, knowledge, and working on things together was of mutual benefit. I learned about new tools, different strategies, made connections, shared information and completed numerous tasks in order to better prepare for the future whatever happens. I believe that they experienced the same benefits
None of this would have been possible without this blog and the solid writing of both Jim and his contributors, and the examples set by the people all around the country- and the world- who are dedicated to the preservation of tradition and values.
This is the opportunity of a lifetime, of the century, to create a far better world than the insane clown posse system that has gone so far off the rails that it can no longer be taken seriously by anyone with a soul and an IQ above room temperature.
“Every new beginning comes from some other beginning’s end.”
-Seneca
A Canticle for Liebowitz.
That quote is great, never heard of that one. Thanks for posting it.
Best quote:
“I don’t believe anything I’m told by the government, the media, medical “experts”, politicians, military leadership, bankers, corporate executives, religious leaders, financial professionals, and anyone selling themselves as an authority on any subject matter. “
That pretty well sums up my position.
It seems they’re sold out to China, but they also seem to WANT us to start a war with China. Just like all the other ones. Beware.
The enemy are the puppet masters and then all of Congress and the medical industrial complex, then the compliant.
We have always been at war with Eastasia
They want us to kill each other, all government bodies are the worst enemy to their own people.
I’m not so sure the 20% of lunatics will be able to kill of the 80%. Beware of a cold winter, electricty outages, food shortages, energy shortages and an internet outage to leave you in the dark.
A seemly infinity number of cows can do nothing against a pack of wolves. Given enough time, all the cows can be slaughtered.
They can surround them and smother them…some cows will die, all wolves will die.
That must be why there are no more cows.
I’m thinking about putting a sign on our front gate. Our road has everything from mansions to little junky trailers, and remember has road signs that say: Be Polite, Don’t Tailgate. It would be very noticed.
What would be effective?
Don’t comply with medical tyranny ?
They will kick down the door, and beat you all bloody, so they can jab you. What are you going to do about that?
Remove as many as I can from life.
Yes, I definitely wouldn’t be gray man anymore.
If in Montana we start getting close to that (for covid anyway) the like thinkers will know me. Also to make it more ‘socially acceptable’ to speak up. You know, gossip about the sign.
Here I think they would just shoot, after the first stop anyway.
You choose to live in perpetual fear.
You don’t have to.
Mentioned these guys in my other comments on shipping. We all know the cabal of evil sob’s… They all know each other and act on plans long formulated many decades ago, possibly centuries, time is not an issue for these parasites.
We need to make it unsafe for these slimes to be out and about… imo
I’m sure they are the front line people, so we have someone to rage against, but there are likely many more oligarchs, and others, behind the scenes. They need to be exposed.
Always the best in presenting the truths!
Will be supporting TBP again, as there is no better venue for understanding our current situation; and the situations to come.
My only frustration is the inability to do much, as well as the slow rollout that retards the spark that sets off the counter revolution; as long as they control the spark, the continued usurpation of the country slowly grinds on. It’s a really a brilliant strategy.
When you are really good, You can tell someone to go to hell in a way that makes them look forward to the trip. Such are the media and psychopaths in politics.
Yasure, Wish I had said that! Excellent! 10 upvotes!
I’m still waiting for the day that people realise “viruses” are NOT pathogenic. No “virus” has ever been properly isolated, purified or demonstrated to cause disease. You can blame Louis Pasteur and every other Big Pharma fraud that followed for being mislead, but it’s time to wake up and smell the coffee. All the great “virus” scares can be attributed to poisonous toxins and malnutrition.
Bringing down their empire of lies will be mankind’s greatest achievement. We may get a little singed in the process, but it’ll be worth it!
That’s because you kind of need a body to examine before wrongful death can be determined, and hers is gone, it’s ashes to Ashli. She was cremated. Because that’s what you do for your supposedly-murdered loved ones, right?
Also, you need to understand she was not killed in the first place. She is/was in on the whole operation: a 16-year Air Force high-ranking Intel officer, supposedly retired, who just happened to be there. Total cohencidence, I’m sure. Deaths can’t be faked! It was on TV!
Everything which occurred inside that staged event was planned and executed by government agents and their paid shills, EVERYTHING. That’s what TPB think we think a revolution looks like, what they hope it does, but just like the fantasy world in which they live they’ve never seen what pissed-off patriots can do… yet.
Do not trust narratives given by those creating said narratives.
While I still consider that highly unlikely, it’s certainly not outside the realm of possibility…
m — Cpt. O is correct, check this out:
This is some awesome shit!
https://rumble.com/embed/vl5d8l/?pub=2tggt
Totally unrelated, but what’s going on with John Wilder’s site?
“FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!”, Fauchi & Fags endlessly yap. Well, well, well — here’s a quote about SCIENCE in Brave New World that just may expain what is really meant by that;
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“ ‘Science?’….’Yes,’ Mustapha Mond was saying, ‘that’s another item in the cost of stability. It isn’t only art that’s incompatible with happiness; it’s also science. Science is dangerous; we have to keep it most carefully chained and muzzled…I’m interested in truth, I like science. But truth’s a menace, science is a public danger. As dangerous as it’s been beneficent. It has given us the stablest equilibrium in history…But we can’t allow science to undo its own good work.
That’s why we so carefully limit the scope of its researchers…We don’t allow it to deal with any but the most immediate problems of the moment. All other enquiries are most sedulously discouraged…Our Ford himself did a great deal to shift the emphasis from truth and beauty to comfort and happiness…[but] People still went on talking about truth and beauty as though they were the sovereign goods. Right up to the time of the Nine Years’ War. That made them change their tune all right. What’s the point of truth or beauty or knowledge when the anthrax bombs are popping all around you?
That was when science first began to be controlled – after the Nine Years’ War. People were ready to have even their appetites controlled then. Anything for a quiet life. We’ve gone on controlling ever since. It hasn’t been very good for truth, of course. But it’s been very good for happiness. One can’t have something for nothing. Happiness has got to be paid for. You’re paying for it, Mr. Watson – paying because you happen to be too much interested in beauty. I was too much interested in truth; I paid too.’ “
All of January 6th simply and easily explained in one article.
I’ve read a multitude of books on subjects from A to Z .
Most of it was crap…crafted by folks that wanted to tell people via the printed word that their view of man and his surroundings was correct.
The soundest advice I ever received was from Mad Magazine in the form of a political cartoon . It showed a Hippie holding a sign that read ” Question Authority ” . That’s the best advice I could have ever received . It brought out the non-conformist in me .
Shopping in a Potemkin grocery store….
Simply outstanding. If there is an alternate media Home Run Hall of Fame, Jim Quinn will be its Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron.
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/10/antifa-assassination-hit-list-targets-president-trump-doctors-media/
Superb article, Mr. Quinn. As usual. Most here already knew most–if not all–of the sordid tale of what the world has become, but it’s useful to add the (literary) history to lend context and to reinforce the inevitable. I don’t ever wish to be convicted of over-optimism, yet I get a gut feel that the United States will not fall prey to the Aussie/Kiwi malaise due, in small parts, to our simple dislike of being told what to do, plus all the weaponry across the land.
Worst comes to worst, maybe it’ll be a “Red Dawn” scenario where the few are able to prevail against the evil.
Satire can really only fold in the face of these…
I just watched “The 13th” at the insistence of some Leftist friends. The premise is that slavery of black men still exists because of a “loop hole” in the 13th amendment that says imprisoned criminals can be made to work. Therefore the white hegemonic criminal justice system creates criminal behavior in black men through drug laws so they can be enslaved in the corporate for-profit prison system. It was grade A propaganda…meant to agitate and infuriate.
There is an elephant in the kitchen that will not be addressed even by the Burning Platform and that is the disproportionate role that Jews have played and are playing in the destruction of the US and the entire western world. Ask yourself. Who controls the international system of central banks, the BIS? Who owns almost all of the Main Stream Media? Who owns and controls most of Big Tech? Big Parma? Hollywood? The Biden Regime? Who funded the massive theft of the 2020 US election? What do most of these guys have in common? “Pelosi and her sidekicks “Shit My Pants” Nadler, “Crying” Chuck Schumer, “Fartman” “Fang Fang Banging” Swallwell, and “Bug Eyes” Schiff…” Even Dr. Paul Craig Roberts has concluded “Israel Has So Much Power Over the US Government and US Military that Israel Can Attack a US Navy Ship and Kill and Injure Most of the Crew and then Enlist the President of the US in a Coverup so Complete that Survivors and the US Media are Muzzled”
wdg- TBP commenters have covered all of your points at least……ten thousand times. Come by more often 🙂
Everything Jones has been warning about for years…
You nailed it…
Does the enemy seem to be the Media and how it is sent and received. It is not all MSN
Google it, Facebook fact check it or if short on words and brain cells Twitter it. Without these all encompassing behemoths of social thought processes we might have an open discussion and agree we are being lied at and to
The real enemy is above you ^^^^^^
You forgot three zeroes, bud
420 MILLION is how much Zuck spent