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Earlier today, I read that the Russian ambassador to Poland was hit by a paint bomb while laying a wreath for WWII fallen soldiers, with the culprits chanting: “fascist, fascist”! And I thought that is rich, on the day that Russia commemorates the 25-40 million Russian lives lost in WWII fighting fascism.
I don’t know how many of you ever saw Claude Lanzmann’s 1980’s 8-hour documentary “Shoah”, but I did at some point. It shook all of me, every molecule, and I will never watch it again. I come from the land of Anne Frank. What it told me was that nazism wasn’t just a German thing, it was the region, not the nation, it was where most Jewish people lived before Hitler and Goebbels came along.
Lanzmann interviewed scores of Polish people who were loudly proud of having pushed back Jews, trying to flee, onto the cattle trains bound for Auschwitz et al. That same mentality has prevailed in large parts of Ukraine as well over the by now 80 years or so. Just look at the map: that’s where this was happening. And the Russians defeated it in that part of the world, not western troops.
And when it was done, the role of the 25-40 million Russian deaths in it was denied in the west, because: communism vs capitalism. But of course Russia cannot just ignore or deny all those deaths, just because Hollywood wants to sell tickets to Saving Private Ryan. For Russia, WWII meant: never again. And for them that means something slightly different than for us. It’s not just never again fascism or nazism, it’s also that these two things are symbolic for having your motherland invaded from the west, and by the west. Never again. That is why Russia moved into Ukraine.
And they are convinced that NATO was getting ready, with the remaining nazis in Ukraine, to attack the Donbass and Crimea. Note: Russia has an excellent secret service. They’re not just guessing. 100s of 1000s of troops were amassing on their eastern border(s).
And now Zelensky is calling the Russians the nazis. That’s quite the about face. They lost all those lives fighting the nazis, only to become the nazis themselves. Labeled so by an actor who relies heavily on admitted, and tattooed, 2022 nazis to stay in power.
Western media, and governments, had a zillion predictions about what Putin would say today, but still there was no mobilization of Russians, and no total war declaration. They were all wrong, again. But it helped get the clickbait up! Still, he would have said it if we did not announce his intentions!, us who have a direct line into his brain…
I’ll leave you with three full reports from today, so you can make up your own mind- something I always try to do. First, RT, for which I cannot provide a link (banned because it’s propaganda!), then Guardian and then BBC.
Russia’s military operation in Ukraine was a preemptive move against future aggression, President Vladimir Putin has outlined during his address at the Victory Day parade in Red Square in Moscow on Monday. Putin not only praised the achievement of the Soviet people during World War II, but also addressed the Kremlin’s reasons for the ongoing conflict between Moscow and Kiev. Russia had to act because a large-scale offensive against the breakaway republics in the eastern Donbass region was being planned, he claimed.
“We saw the military infrastructure unfolding [in Ukraine]; hundreds of foreign advisers starting their work; there were regular deliveries of the most modern weapons from NATO countries. The danger grew every day,” the president explained. “Russia gave a preemptive rebuff to aggression – this was a forced, timely and the only right decision by a sovereign, strong and independent country,” he added, referring to the launch of the military operation. “Despite all the disagreements in international relations, Russia has always advocated the creation of a system of equal and indivisible security,” Putin continued. He cited Moscow’s attempts to engage in dialogue on security guarantees with Washington late last year, which failed to yield results.
“NATO countries didn’t want to hear us, which means that, in fact, they harbored completely different plans, and we saw it,” he elaborated. There were open preparations for a punitive operation in the Donbass and “an invasion of our historical lands, including Crimea,” Putin insisted, adding that Kiev also announced plans to restore its nuclear capabilities. Since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the US has increasingly spoken of ‘American exceptionalism,’ Putin pointed out. By spreading those ideas, Washington is “humiliating not only the whole world, but also its satellites, which have to pretend that they don’t notice anything and humbly accept it all. But we are a different country,” he insisted.
Russia has a different character, we’ll never give up on our love for our Motherland, on our faith and traditional values and customs of our ancestors; on respect for all peoples and cultures. But the West has apparently decided to “cancel” those values, with such “moral degradation becoming the basis for cynical falsifications of the history of World War II, and the incitement of Russophobia,” he said. “We know that American veterans, who wanted to come to the parade in Moscow, were basically banned from doing so,” Putin added. But he pointed out that Russia remembered the feats of the US servicemen and their contribution to victory in World War II.
Returning to the military operation in Ukraine, the president illustrated that “the self-defense forces of the Donbass Republics together with the Russian military are fighting on their land… for the Motherland, for its future, to make sure that no one forgets the lessons of World War II, so that there would be no place in the world for butchers, punishers, and Nazis.” Announcing the “special military operation” on February 24, Putin said that Moscow should not repeat the mistakes of the Soviet leadership of 1940-1941.
Back then, he explained, the USSR tried not to provoke Nazi Germany by “refraining or postponing the most urgent and obvious preparations it had to make to defend itself from an imminent attack.” As a result, the president continued, the moment was lost and the country was not prepared to counter the invasion. “The attempt to appease the aggressor ahead of the Great Patriotic War proved to be a mistake which came at a high cost for our people…We will not make this mistake the second time. We have no right to do so,” Putin said.
The essence: “We will not make this mistake the second time. We have no right to do so,”
Putin Ties Ukraine Invasion To Second World War In Victory Day Speech (Guardian)
Vladimir Putin has told Russian soldiers they are “fighting for the same thing their fathers and grandfathers did” as he used his Victory Day speech to justify his invasion of Ukraine. As Putin sought to rally his country through the memory of the second world war, the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, pushed back in his own address from Kyiv. “We will not allow anyone to annex this victory, we will not allow it to be appropriated,” he said. The dual speeches marked a closely watched anniversary in eastern Europe, where Russia has used claims that it is fighting fascism to justify its bombardment of cities such as Mariupol and Kyiv and to launch the largest military campaign in Ukraine since the 1940s.
Prior to the speech, foreign officials had said Putin could use it to launch a full mobilisation of Russian troops or formally declare war in Ukraine, but there were no large policy announcements. Instead he suggested Russia was “forced” into the war by Nato and pledged to provide aid for the families of soldiers who had died in what the Kremlin is calling a “special operation”. Speaking at the 77th annual celebration of the defeat of Nazi Germany, the Russian president launched a defence of his war in Ukraine, pivoting from a recognition of Russia’s “greatest generation” to a description of how it was believed Ukraine was being armed by the west for an imminent attack on Crimea, the peninsula annexed by Russia in 2014.
“Nato countries did not want to listen to us,” Putin said. “They had different plans, and we saw it. They were planning an invasion into our historic lands, including Crimea … Russia gave a preemptive rebuff to aggression, it was a forced, timely and only right decision.” He also described the war as “sacred”. “The defence of the motherland, when its fate was being decided, has always been sacred,” Putin said, speaking of the second world war. “And now, you are fighting for our people in the Donbas. For the security of our homeland – Russia.” Russia provided fewer armoured vehicles than in past years during the Red Square parade on Monday and a planned flyover was cancelled, ostensibly due to weather conditions.
Putin did not bring up specific Russian victories in his speech, despite speculation his forces were engaged in a last-ditch effort to secure Mariupol and its Azovstal plant from the remaining Ukrainian defenders by 9 May. Instead, the Russian president addressed troop losses in the war, saying he had signed a new order that would give educational aid to the children of those killed. The Kremlin has been accused of seeking to cover up losses. After the sinking of the Moskva cruiser in the Black Sea, a number of families went public with claims the Russian military was trying to avoid confirming deaths onboard the ship.
“The death of each of our soldiers and officers is a grief for all of us and an irreparable loss for relatives and friends,” Putin said. “The state, regions, enterprises, public organisations will do everything to take care of such families and help them. We will provide special support to the children of the dead and wounded comrades. The presidential decree on this was signed today.”
The muted speech came in stark contrast to that delivered by Zelenskiy, who delivered a recorded address to a piano accompaniment as he walked through central Kyiv past anti-tank barricades. “This is not a war of two armies,” he said. “This is a war of two world views. A war waged by barbarians … who believe that their missiles can destroy our philosophy.” In the speech, Zelenskiy took aim at Russian claims Ukraine had sought to block 9 May celebrations, a focus of Russian state media in advance of the holiday.
“Our enemy dreamed that we would refuse to celebrate 9 May and the victory over Nazism,” said Zelenskiy. “So that the word ‘denazification’ will have a chance [to succeed] … On the day of victory over Nazism we are fighting for a new victory. The road to it is difficult but we have no doubt that we will win. “And very soon there will be two Victory Days in Ukraine. And some will not even have one left.”
“The defence of the motherland, when its fate was being decided, has always been sacred.”
Putin Says Russia Fighting For Motherland In Ukraine In Victory Day Speech (BBC)
Russian President Vladimir Putin said Russian forces in Ukraine were fighting for the future of their motherland, in his annual address marking victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two. Despite rumours he would make a major announcement his speech stuck largely to defending Russia’s invasion. He tied the war in Ukraine to victory in 1945, blaming the West and Nato for rejecting security demands. Almost 10 weeks into the invasion, civilian casualties continue to mount. Some 60 civilians are feared dead in the eastern town of Bilohorivka, after a Russian attack on a school where people were trying to escape bombardment.
Flanked by military top brass, Russia’s leader spoke of Ukrainians as fascists, repeating his false claim that the democratic government in Kyiv was run by neo-Nazis. Defending the motherland had always been sacred, he said, referring to the eastern region which is now the main focus of Russia’s assault: “Today you are fighting for our people in Donbas, for the security of Russia, our homeland.” He also made unfounded allegations against Nato and Ukraine and described the invasion as a pre-emptive rebuff: “They were preparing a punishing operation in Donbas to intrude on our historic lands. In Kyiv they were saying they might get nuclear weapons and Nato started exploring the lands close to us, and that became an obvious threat to us and our borders.”
Ukrainian presidential official Mykhailo Podoliak later responded, tweeting that there were no rational grounds for the war: “Nato countries were not going to attack Russia. Ukraine did not plan to attack Crimea.” There had been speculation that Russia’s president may be considering a change of military strategy, either a full declaration of war, rather than the current so-called special military operation, or a mobilisation of Russian men to boost the armed forces. Instead he said he was signing a decree for families of the dead and wounded in Ukraine to receive special support.
There was a minute of silence, including for the fallen in Ukraine, and he ended his 11-minute address with the words: “Glory to our armed forces – for Russia, for victory, hurrah”, at which the assembled forces responded with a big cheer. The parade was more modest than in recent years. Russian news agencies said 11,000 troops and 131 armoured vehicles took part in the event, including Russia’s widely feted Armata tanks, which have not been considered combat-ready for the war in Ukraine.
Not everything went according to plan. A flypast by the air force had to be cancelled shortly before the parade because of “weather conditions”, according to the Kremlin. Ahead of Victory Day, warplanes had rehearsed over Red Square in a Z-formation, the motif used by the Russian state during its war in Ukraine. Smaller parades took part in cities across Russia and the weather was also blamed for similar cancellations of flypasts in Yekaterinburg, Rostov and Novosibirsk. There was no mention in Vladimir Putin’s speech of Mariupol, the southern Ukrainian port city where a small group of Ukrainian forces continue to hold out in a maze of tunnels under the Azovstal steelworks.
But Russia was able to claim limited success on Monday in Kherson, the one Ukrainian city it can claim to have fully occupied. State-run news agency Ria Novosti showed footage of a Victory Day march in memory of those who died in the war. It was led by Volodymyr Saldo, a pro-Russian local official who has been named Kherson governor and is now being investigated for treason by Ukraine. What was then the Soviet Union lost 27 million lives during World War Two, with Ukraine accounting for eight million of them. In a separate message marking 9 May, President Volodymyr Zelensky said Nazis had been expelled in 1945 and Ukraine would not allow anyone to “annex this victory”. Very soon, he said, Ukraine would have two victory days to celebrate.
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I come from the land of Anne Frank.
The Anne Frank diary was a fraud written by her father. Written with a ball point pen which was not commercially available until 1946 and then only in Argentina. The Anne Frank Foundation went to court in Switzerland and proved it was a fraud so the foundation could retain copyright for 70 years from the death of the true author – her father. The court agreed based upon the evidence presented. The money keeps flowing in from the dumb and guilt ridden goyim.
Every article that begins with a fraud I just stop reading right there. Time to put an end to all the bullshit.
I held my nose and read further and you didn’t miss anything. Another Company propagandist posing as a journalist
There are no more journalists so they can’t even pose anymore.
“Every article that begins with a fraud I just stop reading right there”
keep reading. “know your enemy” and all that.
I know my enemy and he is a liar. What more do I need to know?
“What more do I need to know?”
!
weaknesses in your knowledge and arguments, how he manipulates other people and thus how you can counter and reverse that manipulation, how he thinks and thus how to answer new arguments he presents, how he thinks and thus how to anticipate and foil him, and so on.
ran t7. Yes. Same reason I read Kurzweil’s “The Singularity Is Near”. The early bible of the transhumanists. Same reason some read the Koran (I haven’t done that yet). Same reason some read the apocryphal books of early Christianity. Same reason some people read Marx, Darwin, Sagan, Sun Tzu, or ancient Stoics.
If these books seem threatening, then by all means stay away, but there is a need for strong, well-grounded, conversant, watchmen and warriors. Yes it is sufficient to only know the voice of the Shepherd, but many of his flock are not able or willing to recognize all the lying voices that constitute the present “great conversation”. I want to be able to articulate truth and to be able to refute that which is not truth.
I read the Koran about three months ago and my advice is forget it. It is entirely vacuous and I am amazed that such an empty work is the basis for an entire civilization. It literally says nothing and it says nothing over ad over and over for 700 pages.
they would say that you can understand it only if allah so decreed from the foundation of the world. think of it as honest calvinism.
“honest calvinism”
That is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. I think Calvinism is one of the larger crimes perpetrated against humanity.
? why a crime? paul invokes calvinist thought whenever he wants to make a point that requires it. ‘course he’ll then switch over to arminian thought at the drop of a hat if THAT makes his point instead … and then back again as needed ….
It says a lot. And a lot of it is violent.
How far the children of Ishmael have fallen. Too.
That’s a good answer.
Ball point pen. Had no clue. Fairly constant constant personally. Must be true, i read it on the internet. This one featured the standardized ‘American’ intrigue
Thank You!
Not the case. Don’t believe everything someone with an agenda tosses out.
“The Anne Frank Foundation went to court in Switzerland and proved it was a fraud so the foundation could retain copyright for 70 years from the death of the true author – her father. The court agreed based upon the evidence presented.”
is there any cite for that? love to see it. knew about the ballpoint pen thing already.
There was an interesting lawsuit in German court involving Ernst Römer and Edgar Geiss, in 1980. The Bundes Kriminal Amt determined the entire thing was fraudulent.
Though, I think the actual author was Meyer Levin, disclosed in another lawsuit – he hadn’t been paid, apparently.
The Meyer Levin lawsuit was regarding a stage play he had been contracted to write, based on the diary, by her father – this was around 1950. 6 years after the war. He wasn’t asking for pay for ghost-writing the diary.
The Romer lawsuit was interesting because the BKA determined that the diary was all ‘written in the same hand.’ This is an issue because it had margin notations supposedly made after the war. If they included the notations in this determination, it would mean she wasn’t the author – I don’t know if this is the case. Levin, as part of writing his stage adaptation would have had cause to put in the margin notations, so this leads to speculation about him being the possible author. You’d need to see the original documents.
I heard about this when I was in Switzerland about 10 years ago. On an English language TV news show they explained how the foundation used the ball point pen argument and hand writing experts to prove the father wrote about 95%+ of the original “diary”. Google won’t take you to stories that explain the whole thing, including the ghost writer who sued the father and won in NY court because he had not been paid for writing the version (different from the diary) they force our kids to read in school. Whole thing is a sham except for the kid getting shipped off to labor camp and dying there.
https://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/anne_frank_diary_copyright
You will be unable to provide any link to any legitimate source where it is shown that the thing was written in ball pen, or that handwriting experts say the father wrote it. Because they do not exist. You link to an article where it shows he is made a a co-author. It also says he inherited the diaries, which is evidence he didn’t write them. It makes no mention of ball pen, handwriting analysis, etc.
Amazing the lies spread.
The Anne Frank Foundation went to court so as to preserve copyright. The father was not found to be the author. The anointed him co-author, based on his compiling, editing, etc. In other words, he was instrumental in getting the book together, and so was granted co-author status, so that the Foundation could continue receiving royalties. The current foundation is looking to extend the copyright further, by adding more to the diary from notes. The Foundation receives the royalties, and gives millions to charities. I have seen nothing suggesting Otto Frank benefitted financially, but it may be.
No finding that he was the author has ever been made. That does not fit the certain narrative that Ice-9 is pushing.
I cannot say who wrote the diaries. However, they were not written in ball point pen. That has been refuted at length. They were written in fountain pen and pencil. Some ball pen page numbers were put onto sheets during compilations, and two sheets of notes were done in ball point pen by compilers that some have jumped on to say means the work, by whoever wrote it, was done after the war. But whoever wrote the thing wrote it in fountain pen and pencil, and the handwriting was by a single individual.
There is a lot of info out there on the process, including the use of copy papers, amendments, transcriptions and editing, etc.
This article sums up the evidence and basics. None of which of course match Ice-9’s narrative and version.
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/08/books/an-authenticated-edition-of-anne-frank-s-diary.html
With respect to the notions of validity 0f documents, ballpoint pens, etc.
I am all for mail-in-ballots, so long as a ballpoint pen is used and that the paper is waxed.
Ever hear of the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact? Believe me, The Poles have. (Hint: take your nose out from Putins crack and actually read some history instead of spouting the usual maskirovka. We all know Stalin and Hitler were aligned for the first two years of the war, agreed to divide Poland up between them and were in a race to decide which would stab the other in the back first. And we all know the only difference between Communist and Nazi, the National ‘Socialists’, was the color of the uniform. And we know which country invaded the other.
And Yes, as Putin says, the Russian troops are fighting for ‘exactly’ the same thing their grandfathers did (Communist imperialism masquerading as self-defense), which is why anyone not a bought and paid for Russian sycophant will ignore your little misrepresentation of … well everything as just more of the usual suspects ‘literary’ fellatio of Putin. I do hope selling yourself was worth it (roubles? or did you get a dacha too?).
I know it’s a difficult concept (probably beyond your abilities to manage) but most of us can believe that both sides are bad. We know Zelensky is probably nearly as corrupt as our own Western ‘leaders’ but that doesn’t mean we’re going to fall for the hilarious proposition that the corrupt KGB Putin (and his desperate last-ditch attempt to save Russia from its inevitable, and well-deserved, collapse) is somehow a white-hat.
Attack his concepts, if you wish; do not attack the author. Ad hominems are about as meaningful as a dog pile.
They all have the same marker — depraved quips about degrading acts performed on Putin. Probably all the same low rent, low paid agitator working in a sour-smelling boiler room.
Boron
I understand your position, but after (literal) decades of polite, concise and precise counter-arguments, supported by documentary evidence all of which is ignored for some feelz, flippant sound-bites, irrelevant memes or just outright propaganda, I (and many like me have had enough) so when I see blatant, extreme lies by someone not only patently compromised but using fabrications and manipulations that would have even your average propagandist uttering “aren’t you going too far” I call them on it. (see: the oh so gentle, purely peaceful “mutual non-aggression pact” but failing to mention it was only a small part of the agreement to invade an innocent country and carve it up, whilst not getting in each others way whilst raping, pillaging and murdering. We’ll gloss over the whole ‘let’s call anyone who disagrees with us, or resists our attacks, a nazi’ they all regularly use).
My apologies if your (small c) conservative sensibilities are offended, but please indicate a single instance where a polite refutal has done one bit of good, ever.
I am grateful for the (more than expected) up-votes (gratified there are some, at least normal people here), the down-votes indicate (to me) just how infested this site is with bots and trolls. Just as an aside, I haven’t seen you questioning, or chiding the many and various blatant anti-semites and their constant insults and extreme sapient-free comments (and before someone predictably accuses me, no, I was brought up in Welsh Chapel) that infest the place, you must have just not noticed, right?
Maybe he is providing the anti-Semites the same latitude that the Nazis or Zio-Nazis of Ukraine are given by virtually everyone in the media and in the fever swamp of DC.
“do not attack the author”
in attacking “fascism” while ignoring communism, the author knows exactly precisely what he is doing – defending his own side and his own people. it’s as ad hominem as you can get.
Funny how all the -isms end up in the same place..Totalitarianism
you’re missing the big difference – who runs it.
I didn’t get any Rubles, asshammer.
Putin paid me in GOLD when he gave me my DACHA!!!
Wrong star You got going on there. Star of Remphan is what you needed.
Yeah, Russia’s real problem was Nazis, not the American jew bankers who financed and provoked the Bolshevik revolution that murdered tens of millions and sucked Russia dry for decades.
Anti-Semitism rearing its ugly head again after nearly 80 years. Don’t tell me! you’re pro-Zelenskyy and his Azov Battalion.
Piss off bore. It’s not an either or deal except for idiots like you who don’t even know who the semites are.
Another ad hominem from another high-IQ individual. Argue the concept; show me where I’m wrong, but please, please don’t shove me in the cattle car with my Jewish friends.
Argue what concept? The concept that you have been nefariously malinformed by the spawn of the devil himself. The Kenites and Canaanites who misinformed billions are no more Semitic(of Shem) than the man in the moon. All you are doing is carrying their water.
Edomites are Semites, Fleabaggs.
[The descendants of Esau are known as Edom. They lived in Mount Seir. They are made up of Hittites, Hivites, Korahites, Canaanites, Kenites & Kenizzites{Kenaz}(2.), Amalakites, Horites.]
These were all Hamites who Esau married into and was cast out and cursed for marrying non Israelite women and also for making war against Israel. Accordingly they lost all rights and claims of being of God’s chosen. In addition, Esau’s children and grand children etc. continued marrying into these Hybrid Angel/Kenite peoples and polluting their blood with fallen angel dna.
So yes on the smallest fraction of DNA they can claim to be of Shem by way of Essau but the Hybrid dna disqualifies them as fullblood human.
Something Esau already knew when he sold his birthright. He knew he had lost it so he was glad to get a mess of pottage for something that was no longer his. So he was certainly behaving true to his new family of liars.
birthright for a bowl of Red porridge. guess it’s alright that the republicans switched colors, ALL the same.
And like Esau they knew full well what they were doing. You can’t rape the willing.
Okay. So then who are the modern day Edomites?
They are the very same people now masquerading as Khazarians and Ashkenazi which is another deception in itself. It’s late for me so I may not have the links tonight but will deposit them here tomorrow morning or after my morning routine. The Ashkenaz were of Japeth and in Germany near Barvaria I believe.
RRD here are some links in no particular order.
Who could say that 1,800 years earlier that Abraham was one of his ancestors, Esau? Remember Esau and Jacob were twin brothers, born with (presumably) the same bloodline. However, Esau married two Canaanite women in violation of Yahweh’s law. Esau couldn’t leave anything but mongrelized satanic descendants, because among these Hittite Canaanites there was the satanic bloodline.
When the Bible records Esau selling his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of lentil stew, this isn’t when he lost his birthright. This was only a formal ceremony by which he gave up any claim to it. Esau lost the birthright when he did the thing that rendered it impossible for him to continue as the head of the clan.
Esau’s descendants from then on would be mongrelized. Recognizing he was already out of the line for leadership, Esau sold his inheritance for a bowl of stew. The Bible records that Esau and his two Canaanite wives moved down to Mount Seir, a very rugged mountain range southeast of the Dead Sea. Mount Seir is exactly where some of these people lived who were descendants of the fallen angels. Read Genesis chapter 6, among the people who had the blood line of the fallen angels were these Horites. They were the cave dwellers who were known as Horim.
Suppose a white man married two Negresses here and then moved to the interior of the Congo. For the next 18 centuries his descendants lived there with nobody they could marry except the Negroes around them. Of course the last trace of white blood would have vanished. Nevertheless, after 18 centuries they could still say they had a white ancestor.
These weren’t Negroes, they were satanic Canaanites, but the principle is the same. These Jews talking with Yahshua had identified themselves as Edomite Jews. Genesis 36:20-30 lists Esau’s descendants. Listed are all the various chieftains among the family of Seir, the Horite satanic line, including his daughter Timna. Genesis 36:12 records that Timna was a concubine to Esau’s son Eliphaz and bore him a son Amalek. What a pestilential lot the whole tribe of Amalek was, they all behaved according to their satanic bloodline. You will find a good deal about this in Exodus 17:8-16 and Numbers 20:14-21.
This same satanic conduct, on the part of the Edomites, was repeated as the opportunity arose. Remember when the people of Israel came out of Egypt in the exodus, they wanted to march up to Palestine, they were then attacked by the Edomites. The Israelites were driven back so they had to detour around, down through the wilderness, in the Sinai Peninsula.
When the Babylonians, under Nebuchadnezzar captured Jerusalem, they looted and burned the city and massacred a lot of the inhabitants. Then the Edomites came rushing in to help in the massacre and plunder. The whole book of Obadiah is just one continuous condemnation of the Edomites for the way they acted. This book also predicted their eventual slaughter and punishment for what they did. Obadiah verse 10 records, “For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off forever”.
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Lust coming in from the field, late on Thursday.
I’ll spend some time with these links and get back to you…
…probably on some other board now that this one is stale.
Not Thursday.
WEDNESDAY.
What Mr. Moral High Ground Never Ending Circular Argument here doesn’t get – and he and his self-proclaimed intellectually superior ilk will never get – is that what he perceives as “antisemitism” is actually the disgust that the gentiles express for their own kind as they fall time and again for the simple bag of tricks that the jews play on them. When the spell is broken their power over us will evaporate.
Ukraine is yet another one of those bag of tricks – it is the true Ashkenazi homeland – but it is crucial to breaking that spell. That is why I believe so many support Russia at a guttural level – they know this is some sort of modern Rubicon with the hated Liberal Democracy at stake. The deep state knows this too and that is why they will throw everything and the kitchen sink at Ukraine, graft and kick backs aside. Once crossed – i.e., a clear Russian victory – there is no return and many are willing to bet on whatever comes after Liberal Democracy so long as it is not WEF / UN sponsored, even if that means a lower “standard of living” but with a more meaningful life.
“it is the true Ashkenazi homeland”
actually no, my understanding is that genetic testing has demonstrated that they are in fact italians. specifically from the po valley.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_mtdna_haplogroups.shtml
The most puzzling thing on this map is that the people of Chad share the same mitochondrial haplogroup as western Europeans.
… the map looks hinky. southern spain has a very large, even dominant, component of berber/arab ancestry, but the map shows it as all european.
Reaches back to the days of Charles Martel and the Battle of Tours (Search- Charles ‘The Hammer’ Martel)
“anti-semitism”
(nod) it is. because it’s true.
Anti “Those who say they are but are Not”, to be practical.
“Antisemitism”
Fuck off, Shlomo, everyone here knows the accusation is a Khazarian trick.
“sucked russia dry for decades”
psalm 105:44 – “He also gave them the lands of the nations, So that they might take possession of the fruit of the peoples’ labor”
This is the absolute biblical truth. The only thing I would say about this is that it was in a time when the Hebrew blood line was traceable back to Abraham. In context of the full passage it had to do with the Canaanites many thousands of years ago and in fact the jews failed to do as commanded as usual, and payed a price as usual. In that day being Gods chosen people was no luxury if you consider what they went through. 4o years of walking in a circle in the desert. I think maybe God would ask them “Are you getting it yet? – Wrong answer!-, take another lap!”. The true jews of that age had their asses kicked more times than not for disobedience than any other nation of the time. Wither one believes or not, that’s the way the story gets told..
All nations that war against another, will always realize the fruits of the defeated.
you miss the main point – this isn’t a historical point, rather isaiah jeremiah amos et al explicate this as being the end state of judaism. it’s their ultimate religious goal. they mean to live the dream NOW. “be your own messiah”.
I get what your saying. I think it’s possible that psalm 105:44 is speaking of a lost race of people. There may be no context in psalm 105:44 to whom you speak of in the present text. I remember something about 144,000. 12000 from the 12 tribes, segments of lost generations preserved through time. If true, I am doubtful they even know who they are.
In proper context, they are no more biblical Jews than I am a Saxon warrior.
It was both… Chip
for the russians, it was the germans and the boolsheviks. for the germans, it was the boolsheviks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiI_x8wRaSk
They are very good at this, aren’t they?
They are very good at it.
I keep an eye out on people behind Alex sometimes. I think some thugs were tailing him the other day.
I never got to visit Greece, so am glad he’s providing tours.
Did you know there was a Victory Day Parade in …… MARIUPAL? Ha!!
“Mariupol citizen explains her feeling about Russia, Ukraine, Victory in Great Patriotic War and her new life.”
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http://thesaker.is/victory-parade-in-mariupol-ukraine-09-may-2022-mariupol-citizen/
Can’t believe JooTube hasn’t taken this down since it doesn’t fit the narrative. What narrative? The Ukies are winning!! Ukie soldiers are brave and tough!! Ukie soldiers would rather die than surrender! Russia has lost 398,390 soldiers, 6,502 tanks, and almost its entire Air Force!!
Okie Dokie Artychokie! Ukie POWs … just captured, but look at their eyes. That’s the look of utter defeat, despair, hopelessness. Men with no fight whatsoever left in them.
Second and third article not worth reading.. Indicator: Kiev spelled Kyiv.. tells alot about the thinking of the writer.
I’m 62, studied Europe and Eastern Europe my whole life. Always have known it as Kiev… Chip
Well you could create similar documentaries showing horrific things done by every country [and political theory] on Earth, no problem.
Including the USA.
yeah, read the book of joshua.
Does that make it right??? Chip
in their minds, if they do it, then yes, by definition.
Does that make it uncomparably evil, as the author is suggesting??
FIFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueOSFQ4m164
Say, wasn’t Russia – as part of the jewish Soviet Union – systematically exterminating ethnic Germans?
not directly. the plan was to have “german” boolsheviks take over germany directly and do to it what they were doing to russia. but they were stopped, and then counterattacked.
No, Anon is right. The Soviets were shipping Black Sea and Volga Germans off to Siberia, or simply killing them outright. This started in the 1920s.