How Many More Red Lines Can Be Crossed Before Armageddon Arrives?

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe published on April 15, 2016, more than six years ago, a report on the torture of Donbass Russians by the Ukrainian military and police forces.  The report documents horrendous torture and it was done out of racial hatred of Russians. You can read the report here:  https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf

Few Westerners, being so poorly educated, are aware that Western Ukraine fought for Nazi Germany during World War II.  When Washington overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014, Washington installed a Nazi government. The Nazi government in Ukraine shelled the Russian residents of the two break-away Donbass republics for 8 years while Washington and NATO trained and equipped a Ukrainian army to retake the breakaway republics.

The Donbass region, always a part of Russia, was put into the Ukrainian province of the Soviet Union by the Soviet government for administrative or other reasons, as was Crimea by Khrushchev in the 1950s.  When the US overthrew the Ukrainian government and installed an anti-Russian government, the residents of Crimea and Donbass, being Russians, broke away and voted overwhelmingly to be reunited with Russia.  The Kremlin accepted Crimea but made the strategic blunder of rejecting Donbass, thus resulting in the extreme murder and torture of Donbass Russians for 8 years before the Kremlin was forced to intervene by Russian public opinion and by the appearance of a 150,000 American-trained Ukrainian army and Nazi militias on the Donbass border.  It is this army and Nazi militias that the Russian army has been exterminating in Donbass during the last several months.  The Western media reports of Ukrainian victories show the total absence of integrity and respect for truth that damns Western journalism.

The extreme torture of the Russian residents of Donbass has been supported by three US presidents, all European states, and the entirety of the whore Western media, a collection of despicable scum.

Instead of reporting the truth, the scum Western media reported fake news of rapes and looting by Russian soldiers, the most disciplined army in the world.  The Ukrainians, or perhaps the CIA, have been exposed filming fake battle scenes in which allegedly Russian troops are shown fleeing from combat.  The filming is so sloppy that the director’s instructions for the staged act are included and the film crew is itself filmed, indicating that it is a film production and that there is no danger in the situation.

As horrendous as it is that the “free West” underwrites and diplomatically supports torture of Russians by Ukrainians while the despicable Western media covers it up, this horror pales in significance compared to the extraordinary decision of the White House Idiot to place in Ukraine’s hands missiles capable of hitting targets in Crimea, the traditional home of Russia’s Black Sea naval base.

Washington has said that Washington won’t be operating the missiles and is relying on Ukraine’s assurance that they won’t be used to attack Russian territory.  But Ukraine doesn’t regard Crimea as Russian territory. Neither does Washington’s “world community.” The “world community” doesn’t acknowledge the Crimean vote for reunification with Russia.  Officially for the West, Crimea is part of Ukraine.  So Ukraine can use Biden’s missiles to attack the Russian naval base in Crimea.

As Eric Zuesse, an unusual leftwinger who generally respects the truth as far as he can see it, something the left seldom does, notes, the Biden Idiot and his neoconservative controllers have turned over to Zelensky, a Jew allied with Nazis, the decision whether there will be Armageddon.

Here is Zuesse, speaking for himself:

Ukraine Says It Might Use U.S. Weapons to Invade Russia

Eric Zuesse

In order to understand this matter, some fundamental background must first be briefly presented; and it is this (the remainder of this paragraph): Ukraine’s Government has consistently promised that it will retake Crimea, which had been part of Russia during 1783-1954 when the Soviet leader Khrushchev then transferred it to Ukraine, and which subsequently broke away from Ukraine in 2014 to rejoin Russia. Russia has re-established its sovereignty there, after a 2014 referendum in Crimea showed over 90% support by voters for Russia to do so. That’s the background.

On June 1st, when the White House announced that it would be sending to Ukraine weapons that might be used for invading Russia, Jonathan Finer, deputy White House national security adviser, said Washington had asked Ukraine for assurances the missiles would not strike inside Russia. On June 3rd, Ukraine’s Government rejected that request.

At the time when Biden made that announcement on June 1st, Reuters noted that, “Biden announced the plan to give Ukraine precision HIMARS rocket systems after receiving assurances from Kyiv that it would not use them to hit targets inside Russian territory.”

Either the U.S. Government is lying, or else the Ukrainian Government is lying, about this matter. If Ukraine did give Biden “assurances” that those weapons will not be used so as to invade Russia, then Ukraine’s announcement on June 3rd proves that Ukraine was lying when it provided those “assurances.”

If Ukraine did not give give Biden such “assurances,” then Biden was lying.

If Ukraine was lying on June 3rd to say that it won’t comply with Biden’s request, then that was a lie from Ukraine.

Here is the way Russia’s RT News reported, on June 3rd, Ukraine’s rejection of Biden’s request (assuming that Biden did make such a request; wasn’t lying about that):

“Ukraine dismisses its promise to US”

Kiev may strike Crimea, a Ukrainian presidential aide says, despite assurances US weapons won’t be used to hit Russian territory.

Ukraine will use US-supplied rocket systems to strike into Russian territory should it deem such attacks necessary, Ukrainian Presidential Adviser Alexey Arestovich said on Thursday. …

“Crimea is ours. It belongs to Ukraine. And they [Russia] know it.” …

Arestovich’s comment comes despite US Secretary of State Antony Blinken saying on Wednesday that Kiev has given Washington “assurances” that it won’t use American rockets to attack targets in Russia. …

Arestovich’s statement echoes the claim made by another Ukrainian politician. Egor Chernev, a Ukrainian MP, said on Wednesday that Russian aircraft and military stationed on Russia’s territory are “legitimate targets.”

If Ukraine uses U.S. weapons to invade Russia, then under existing international law, the U.S. will be a participant in that invasion. Russia would have a good case that (given the facts which have just been documented here), that participation would be either intentional, or else negligent. It would not have been unintentional on America’s part. Russia would, at the very least, then ask America whether that participation was intentional, or instead negligent. If America says “negligent,” then Russia would ask what America will do to rectify that matter. If America instead says “intentional,” then there will exist, from that moment on, a hot war between Russia and America. The loser in any hot war between Russia and America will escalate the conflict to a nuclear war in order to avoid becoming conquered by the other side. That would be not only WW III but a nuclear WW III, and would destroy all of the allies of each side, and would severely contaminate even neutral countries, and end globally in a nuclear winter, which would possibly end all life as it has existed on this planet.

PCR’s  comment:

I have said from the beginning that the Kremlin is reactive, not proactive, and only slowly reactive.  The consequence is that the Kremlin’s red lines mean nothing to the West.  Even when under extreme duress, the Kremlin only allowed itself a limited military intervention in eastern Ukraine where residents are ethnic Russian.  To the neoconservatives controlling Western foreign policy,  this appears as irresolution, so the West presses on.  Red line after Red line is crossed, and the Kremlin does nothing.  It took EIGHT YEARS for the Kremlin to react to the slaughter of Donbass Russians, and only did so after the West laughed at the Kremlin’s security concerns and dismissed them out of hand.   Russia’s conduct of its foreign policy shows irresolution, and this invites more provocations. The Kremlin shows inability to comprehend the dilemma it creates for itself.

Do we assume that years of Kremlin subservience to the West under Yeltsin and years of Kremlin hesitation under Putin have convinced the West that there is no strength in Russia and that Washington can press on with the Wolfowitz Doctrine of Washington’s hegemony?  Perhaps this is a safe assumption.  After all Washington had three decades of Kremlin toleration of Washington-financed NGOs, media and subversive organizations operating inside Russia corrupting the youth and the disaffected.  Elements of this ilk are even present in the Russian government.

In the West the Russian military is a laughing stock.  The media reports that Russian forces are about to be rolled up by democratic Ukrainians using American weapons. The unreality of this fantasy means more red lines will be crossed.

Are the Atlanticist Integrationists going to depose Putin?  Is Russia going to have a new leader installed who will apologize to Ukraine and pay reparations?

If not, what’s going to happen when those US missiles given to Ukraine hit targets in Crimea?

Putin’s humanity, his toleration of provocations, his reluctance to use force has encouraged the West to press harder. Sooner or later a red line is going to be crossed from which there is no recovery.

 

These statements from Russian leaders indicate that the Idiot West has pushed beyond the fatal Red Line:

The West Does Not Understand the Extreme Danger from Its Arming of Ukraine
The Idiot Biden Regime and Insane Neoconservatives Have the World on the Path to Armegeddon

In a TV interview with Al Jazeera Television, Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia, said “This is not a forecast, but what’s already in play.  The Horsemen of the Apocalypse are galloping ahead, and we can only look towards God.”

On Russian television, there is constant discussion about how the conflict in Ukraine is really a proxy war between the United States and Russia.
On the state TV show 60 Minutes, host Olga Skabeeva announced: “I have some unpleasant news… Even though we are methodically destroying the weapons that are being delivered [to Ukraine], but the quantities in which the United States are sending them force us to come up with some global conclusions. Perhaps it’s time to acknowledge that maybe Russia’s special operation in Ukraine has come to an end, in a sense that a real war has started: WWIII. We’re forced to conduct the demilitarization not only of Ukraine, but of the entire NATO alliance.”

Vladimir Avatkov, from the Diplomatic Academy of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said: “You mentioned WWIII and the way Americans and Poles are acting on the territory of Ukraine—indeed, we need to remember the words of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, who said that anyone who tries to interfere in the special military operation will pay a heavy price.” Skabeeva interrupted: “We never forget about these words of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, but a great number of people are already standing in line, trying to interfere in Russia’s special operation on the territory of Ukraine. Turns out, we have to act—but we’re yet to figure out how we can act without conducting a nuclear strike.”

Just the other day, one prominent Russian politician openly talked about destroying both coasts of the United States with Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missiles…
The politician, Alexie Zhuravlev, was joined on the talk show by fellow MP and Russian-state mouthpiece Yevgeny Popov, the host of the Rossiya 1 channel show.
The lawmaker claimed that two of Russia’s Sarmat  missiles would destroy the entirety of America’s east coast – before adding it would take just “two missiles for the west coast” as well.
“Four missiles and there’ll be nothing left.”

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/uh-oh-medvedev-the-horsemen-of-the-apocalypse-are-galloping-ahead

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28 Comments
Coalclinker
Coalclinker
June 6, 2022 7:32 am

I think The Elites would love it if Russia nuked a few American cities. That would give Biden the excuse to declare a national emergency, suspend the writ of habeas corpus and the rest of our “rights”, and then they would deal with us anyway they want. Plus eliminate tens of millions of their useless eaters that they want rid of anyhow.

m
m
  Coalclinker
June 6, 2022 8:06 am

That’s funny. To think/imply that habeas corpus is still active and enforced today…

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  m
June 6, 2022 9:16 am

Oh there’s maybe a tidbit left but THEY WILL SMEAR IT IN YOUR FACE when they say it’s all gone

jose__lopez
jose__lopez
  Coalclinker
June 6, 2022 10:17 am

Why spend all this taxpayer money for corrupt Ukraine ?
Risk nuclear war with Russia ?
not worth it.

flash
flash
June 6, 2022 7:41 am

Prepare for mass migration of Bolshevik indoctrinated liberal loons and White Christian haters into the heartland. Blockades need to go up now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
June 6, 2022 10:01 am

Some of the most virulent Christian haters believe themselves to be Christian.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 6, 2022 11:45 am

Some of the most virulent Christians believe themselves to be Christian.

flash
flash
June 6, 2022 8:21 am

All red lines have been crossed . We await the consequences.

Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
June 6, 2022 8:24 am

‘What an evil web we weave, when we practice to deceive!’

Jay Kethley
Jay Kethley
June 6, 2022 9:56 am

nobody realizes this but me, but the revolt in the Ukraine in 2014 was just one more goal in the Nazi agenda. The west doesn’t realize it, but it has been co-opted to do everything that Hitler & the Nazis wanted in 1933. The west has taken over the states to the west of Russia like Poland and the Baltic states. Now they want to bring Ukraine into the fold of EU and Nato… This was exactly what the Nazis wanted back in WW2, just under their government in Berlin. I can understand why the Russians consider this a big red line for them. Belarus will be next if they do nothing. Then eventually they will force a coup in Moscow itself. This is the conquest of Russia & allied states by the West. If Biden & the EU don’t stop, Putin will take us into nuclear war to prevent this from happening. Why is everyone so blind to this? Perhaps because it is such a gradual process? I personally do not want to die in a nuclear detonation over my city, a major industrial target site.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jay Kethley
June 6, 2022 10:02 am

Hitler did nothing wrong, Moshe.

World War Zeke
World War Zeke
  Anonymous
June 6, 2022 11:55 am

Franco would disagree.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jay Kethley
June 6, 2022 5:25 pm

That is easily the worst Hasbara propaganda I’ve ever read.

Stucky
Stucky
June 6, 2022 10:58 am

This is what people who know Putin best (here and abroad) say about him —-> Putin. Does. NOT. Bluff.

Putin has already declared what his ”red lines” are.

Only fools will cross them.

Sadly, the greatest nation in the world (so called) is led by a Demented Fool. Hence, we are fucked.

i forget
i forget
June 6, 2022 11:47 am

Graphical presentation of red lines rubicon-crossed ~ fear/cowardice devil’s due ~ but “seen” prism-bent thru emotional solipsism (narrated/rationalized/cogdis•nuffed) as “self-preservation” (if ya believe the belief peddler that sez a pin thru a doll’s “heart” will voodoo ya’, it just might):

And on the flip-side that is the same coin, “con•trol”:

You know the sound of thunder – or are ya too dazed, your wood dead (or wishing it were dead)?

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
June 6, 2022 12:08 pm

A bunch of coke heads in D.C. give the coke head Zelinsky missiles and tell him not to shoot them into Russia…what could go wrong?

m
m
  WilliamtheResolute
June 6, 2022 2:59 pm

Nothing [in their view], as it’s the perfect ‘plausible deniability’ way to directly attack Russia militarily!

Lachesis Atropos
Lachesis Atropos
June 6, 2022 12:59 pm

No matter what you say, the sheep will only see a self proclaimed “Jew” who is president. Jewish like Schumer and Catholic like Pelosi. Doesn’t matter if the POS Soros puppet is a fake Jew, the yellow stream media and politicians will continue to force the narrative.

Anon
Anon
June 6, 2022 1:09 pm

I wish more people would point out that Putin and Russia are essentially fighting the same enemy that Hitler and Nazi Germany were fighting in WW2.

These modern Ukrainian “neo-nazis” have basically had their patriotic nationalist sentiments manipulated into fighting FOR the same enemy their forebears opposed when they allied with WW2 Germany.

The endless use of ‘Nazi’ as a slur and all-encompassing symbol of some kind of metaphysical evil is tiresome and dumb. Shake off the brainwash. Somebody in the comments implying that the Jewish comedian fake president of Ukraine is somehow carrying out Hitler’s masterplan is hitting levels of retarded boomer that I can’t even

eckbach
eckbach
  Anon
June 6, 2022 7:17 pm

Men from 30+ countries volunteered in the Waffen SS to fight with Germany against the Bolsheviks.
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AY
AY
June 6, 2022 2:56 pm

Anyone ever ask, WHY were there Nazis in Ukraine during WWII? Ever? Maybe the Russians murdering millions of innocent people in the Holmodor might have something to do with it? Nah, can’t be, they just “hate Russians” for no reason…Yea, that’s it….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AY
June 6, 2022 9:01 pm

Maybe because the bolshevik jews were systematically exterminating the ethnic Germans there? Couldn’t be that.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 6, 2022 3:10 pm
Doc MartinAnonymous
Doc MartinAnonymous
June 6, 2022 5:10 pm

Just received my four Russian Federation flags from Amazon yesterday to display to the invading Russian troops when Putin drops a space-based 100 megaton EMP over the US and walks across our east, south and north borders. Look forward to seeing Obiden’s faggots and clowns limping up the gallows while sipping Russian vodka.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 6, 2022 5:23 pm

If Putin has the means to eliminate the ‘western’ leadership, we should be trying to provoke him into doing it,

Leethal
Leethal
June 6, 2022 5:27 pm

I believe the Russians are getting reckless in talking like that but the West is also getting reckless in ignoring it. Both sides are getting reckless and guess who will pay for it in this reckless dare?

Marky
Marky
June 6, 2022 11:05 pm

Before Armageddon Arrives?
Another example of People who don’t believe in or read the bible misrepresenting what the bible says. Armageddon IS NOT a war between nations or world war 3. Its Satan gathering the nations together for battle in alliance in an attempt to defeat and prevent Christ return to earth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 7, 2022 5:45 am

Red lines are a wast of time, talk is a wast of time.