Apparently, The Saker website gets a lot of Trolls. So, Andrei decided to post a short “vademecum” (a handbook or guide that is kept constantly at hand for consultation). It’s quite funny. I will be adding this to the TBP Handbook. Please feel free to add your own thoughts … if included in the TBP Handbook, you will receive proper accreditation.
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A short vademecum for aspiring trolls
- Rule number one: always make sure your comment is either the very first one (best!) or, at least, one of the top ones. This way you can best derail the discussion away from the actual article and make it all about your talking points. This was almost always the case when I was still writing for the Unz Review, and it is still very often the case on the Saker blog today. I would call this rule “the golden rule of trolling”.
- Do not, ever, refer to the actual contents of article you comment upon. Doing so might lead the readers to familiarize themselves with the author’s arguments or, worse, the factual and logical substantiation of these arguments. You want emotion, not analysis.
- Make sure to psychoanalyze both the author and the blog itself. Use sentences such as “you only write this because” or “in spite of the horrific censorship on this blog…” etc. This is basically the good old ad hominem disguised as some kind of insight into things the troll cannot – by definition – have any information about.
- In your comment, make sure to align as many Neocon talking points as possible, you can join them together into (apparent) sentences and (apparent) paragraphs. This way you give the external appearance of making an cogent argument while doing no such thing.
- Ignore the author’s arguments. If the author write “A”, do not directly dispute it, don’t even refer to it. Instead, write “non-A”. In fact, the ideal troll comment is one which never gives the reader a reason to look up the author’s actual arguments.
- Make sure that your comment is formally polite. Thus not only do you sound respectful and sincere (“all I want is an honest discussion!“), but it reduces the chances that the moderators will send it to trash. You can be snarky, of course, but that opens up your comment to being sent to trash on formal reasons.
- Claim the coveted “victim of censorship” status. Yes, even when you ignore (deliberately or not) the commenting rules! This technique is especially useful if your comment is illogical, off-topic or plain stupid. After all, in our times of “positivity” and “acceptance” it would be most politically incorrect to call any comment “nonsensical” or “stupid”!
- Misuse terms, especially those which are often misunderstood by non-specialists. The perfect example would be the difference between “air superiority” and “air supremacy”, or use “contested airspace”. The goal here is not to make a fact based and logical argument, the goal is to repeat Neocon talking points as often as possible. With some luck, other commentators will pick up this misuse of terms and you will achieve a synergistic effect.
- Go fishing. By that I mean this: post a number of statements and see if anybody else will “bite”, possibly a fellow troll (paid or not). Example, “it appears that a single Ukrainian MiG-29A shot 3 Su-35S in one mission“. With any luck, somebody will bite and, there we go, the synergistic effect will be achieved.
- Ignore points made in the original article. This is a crucial one. If an author writes “A” and then goes into some details explaining the factual and logical basis for this argument, don’t engage, but ignore it! Pretend as if it did not exist. With some luck, those who just skimmed over and article won’t realize what you are doing.
- “Bounce” external arguments. By this I mean simply write “I read fill in the blank” and ask for a rebuttal. The function and purpose of this technique is double: derail the conversation and (try to) force the author to waste his/her time debunking as many idiotic arguments as possible.
- When all else fails, use emphasis, hyperbole and gravitas. For example, “the shelling of Donetsk is a disgrace for Russia, the Russian military and Putin himself!“. If something is a “disgrace for Russia, the Russian military and Putin himself” then it must be pretty awful indeed! And the fact that this entire line of (pretend) “thought” is based on exactly *nothing* becomes obfuscated by the emotional content of the troll’s statement. That is not very effective, but when all else fails, it still can sometimes work. This is simply a recycling of an old lawyer’s trick: “When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on your side, pound the table“.
- Piss people off by copying and pasting long articles. It doesn’t matter if the article is relevant or not. Your intent is to baffle them with bullshit and wear down their defenses. It is a subtle way to hijack a thread, also known as “to <i>flash</i> someone”.
SOURCE: THE SAKER
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BONUS ARTICLE:
There was a rather long editorial in today’s NJ Shit Ledger (which they lifted from the Washington comPost) whereby they were absolutely giddy with joy over the Ukienazi soon-to-happen-any-day-now offensive plan to recapture the very strategic city of Kherson. The “Biden” administration also has a massive woody about the possibilities and so, last week gave the Ukienazis yet another billion dollars in weapons. Only one problem ===> there’s no fucking way in hell Country 404 can pull it off. Just more Unicorn Farts blowin’ in the wind according to the Moon Of Alabama.
The Kherson Offensive Is Pure Ukie Bullshit
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BONUS VIDEO:
Country 404 getting the fuck pounded out of them. I love the smell of Russian Artillery in the morning!!!
https://youtu.be/QlcnXrN8V_M
THE END
Thanks Stuck.
That’s a keeper for reference.
Isn’t Stucky a giant faggot?
See point #2
I don’t know. Compared to Llpoh, Stucky is only an average sized faggot.
First. Funniest thing. You ever wrote.
“Rule number one: always make sure your comment is either the very first one (best!) or, at least, one of the top ones.”
Well DoneYour style. For awhile.I am studiously and relentlessly ignoring everything published by anyone about the military aspects of the Ukraine war. The propaganda is the best representation we have seen of a “total propaganga” implementation. And yes, effective propaganda always includes some facts.
I never read anything published by ‘saker’, or watch any of the videos by gonzalo whats his name, or read anything put out by nato or the biden communists.
Total propaganda, full bore, no expenses spared, the best professional propaganda the world has ever seen.
Flame away, and then kiss my ass. I don’t waste a single minute of my day with it.
I was the first person formally banned by Saker back when he only had 5 readers.
He invited his Spliv girlfriend to write a guest editorial on the Trayvon Martin case.
First word out of her mouth was “First for some background” and it was all Black victim history month
slant from there on.
I promptly challenged him for it and he promptly practiced many or all of his trolling points on me and I’m still blocked 7 years later.
Here is Saker’s M.O. by a master of disinfo himself.
“The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum….”
― Noam Chomsky, The Common Good
The Saker has always taken insane libtard delusion for granted, when talking about US politics. That’s why I hate most of his stuff.
“the military aspects of the Ukraine war.”
All the seemingly unfathomable military blunders that led to complete carnage on one or both sides by otherwise ‘brilliant’ leaders? Not beyond the realm of possibilities. Semi-planned in advance.
General reduction of the population. Targeted reduction of the male population.
“Fuck Christmas! put those footballs down. Quit laughing and exchanging pleasantries, Back to the trenches, let the killing and maiming begin anew.”
Fragging. a valid concept. Too Late.
Perfectly describes many of the newbie regulars here. HHhhmm, I wonder who ~m~ works for.
Uncle- You can tell who hurts their cause the most, they send in the paid trolls (who aren’t very talented) and slam you with a high downer count. I always know when Trumptard events are on the burner, we get new trolls ahead of time.
I don’t get the affection for the Saker. His girlfriend tells you all you need to know.
He built his following as a good Russian weapons analyst and was one of the first to really expose the weakness of our new toys including our toy soldiers when held up against the revamped Russian weapons after Putin”s revamping.
As often happens these days he parlayed that trust into becoming a mediocre political analyst. With today’s dumbed down populace he has been able to milk it long enough to be propped up by the new improved Ukie war. He was begging hard and heavy prior to the build up by Russia on the Ukie border.
The Cont. Opp. Shibboleth is evil Nazi/Fascist.
” His girlfriend tells you all you need to know.”
oh, do tell
Yes, do tell. I guess you support BLM and love you some dark meat too? Bad judgement and habits hardly fitting a ruskie, no name.
Oh come on, Anon up there just being curious. No need to be so defensive.
The saker I’m sure knows a lot about both psychoanalysis and lawyers’ tricks.
“There’s a Saker born every minute. This way to the egress”
In your comment, make sure to align with the most popular and upvoted commenter.
Make sure to criticize both the author and the blog itself. This whole article is just click bait so he can earn revenue.
Claim the coveted most popular comment by agreeing with yourself using numerous other screen names
Go fishing fuc this internet bullshit, I’m going fishing
Make sure that your comment is – as provocative and vulgar with as much profanity as possible.
When all else fails – make accusations your guilty of.
HMMMM (fill in the blank) SEE “Bounce” external arguments.
Piss people off by posting a bible verse.
Trolljitsu works both ways.
I’ve been known to quote trolls words back & question their intelligence… (Sometimes parentage too)
Nothing infuriates trolls more than telling them to re-read your post, to take their time & sound-out the hard words & try to google words they don’t understand. I also add “Take your time, we know it is hard, we’ll wait.”
Perhaps I enjoy those reactions too much. Yet, it works EVERY time.
Have fun. Walk away if you start to get mad. If you can laugh at them, you can counter-troll them.
There is an old Trolljitsu page on wordpress that lists the Trolljitsu rankings… (Trolljitsu.wordpress)
DeploraDent… It must be an art form you’ve mastered because when I do that, they either disappear or double down on the idiocy.
If Bible verses piss you off then you’re exactly the person who needs to read them.