Guest Post by Martin Armstrong
The far left is eager to repeal 2A. We are not as free as we think. The International Organization for Standardization (ISO), an organization headquartered all the way in Geneva, will be tracking all gun purchases made on credit. The ISO develops standard documentation that is globally recognized. Gun sales were previously listed as “general merchandise,” but the ISO is changing the code.
If you purchase a gun through a credit card, an international agency will document the purchase. Cash is still an option for now, but I expect it will become increasingly difficult to gain access to firearms – at least for those who plan to purchase them legally.
Visa is eager to participate. “Following ISO’s decision to establish a new merchant category code, Visa will proceed with next steps, while ensuring we protect all legal commerce on the Visa network in accordance with our long-standing rules,” they said in a statement. American Express said that they would work with a third-party processor (more people with access to your data) and will implement the code once the details are finalized. Mastercard said they will “turn our focus to how it will be implemented by merchants and their banks as we continue to support lawful purchases on our network while protecting the privacy and decisions of individual cardholders.”
Every credit company will comply. The National Rifle Association is pushing back, but the change is already underway. “The [industry’s] decision to create a firearm-specific code is nothing more than a capitulation to anti-gun politicians and activists bent on eroding the rights of law-abiding Americans one transaction at a time,” National Rifle Association spokesman Lars Dalseide stated to Fox Business.
As a reminder, criminals have access to guns. Joe Biden continually calls on Congress to ban assault weapons, but that is the beginning. Not so coincidentally, Joe Biden’s own family members illegally discarded a gun in a trash can outside a school, but that’s (D)ifferent. The Second Amendment is under fire, and the people must vote accordingly.
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If you’re afraid the Government is going to know you’ve got guns, then you definitely aren’t of the moral character to own one.
Besides, you’re a fool if you think for one second that the Government doesn’t already know about your guns.
Do you not understand that the background check IS gun registration?
Again…if you’re that stupid you shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a firearm…or scissors.
Change my mind.
I won’t try to change YOUR mind. I’ll jump to another subject.
I have a tremendous disdain for those that steal another man’s firearms and for scum bags that damn well know when someone offers a $1000 firearm for a couple hundred bucks something is not right yet they buy the firearm anyway then brag to their buddies what a deal they got.
Someone asked if I knew where he could buy a .38 “cheap”. DICKHEAD. I asked if he had considered an inexpensive Armscor M200 .38 SPL. Several years prior I purchased the M200 from a gun dealer for $189 turnkey. These are not S&W’s. However they are durable handguns for the money and I’ve shot S&Ws and honestly I cannot say one is more accurate than the other.
The reason the individual was not interested in the M200 is he did not want to deal with FFL and as I learned later he has a criminal record that disqualifies him from a FFL purchase.
Another individual showed me a Ruger Mini Ranch in .223 and said he gave his dad $100 for it and was pretty sure it was stolen. So he buys the Mini Ranch anyway. I wonder maybe the one that was stolen from might like t have it returned?
Nothing wrong with legitimate trades and purchases of firearms and of course some accuse gun shows of enabling sales of stolen firearms. Probably so. I had an old friend that had his entire collection of firearms handed down through family, some 30 firearms total, stolen from hos home. Scumbags. Anyone that thinks it’s cool to buy a stolen firearm can eat shit and die as far as I’m concerned. I do not believe an FFL is not a form of gun registration and I’ve read all the opinions about whether law enforcement can or cannot “trace” the original purchase. So for the scum bags that think its funny cool just remember should that firearm ever been involved in criminal activity and you just happen to be questioned with it in your possession…get yourself an attorney. You will most definitely be a suspect. Fucking scum bags that associate with gun stealing fucks!
There’s not much good I can say about gun surrendering idiots.
Yup, the ATF has been taking illegally photos of 4473 forms for years and compiling a registry. The FBI is supposed to destroy all background checks, instead they’re storing them all overseas as well.
I am surprised it took this long. I understand the outrage, but they have been tracking gun sales way before the implementation of this. The NICS check does the tracking already. The form 4473 is still used and is kept at the FFL for a period of time and out of the hands of the FBI, blah blah. Yet most background checks are done through the NICS website where each check has a record of your name, address, etc. They may not know what specific gun you bought, but does it matter? If you bought 10 guns last year, they know! The push for so called universal background checks is their next move as it would include much more information for each NICS check, basically registration at that point.
Exactly. It all goes into a computer and computers keep data forever.
There are legal ways to buy a gun without anybody but you and the guy you bought it from knowing about it. Some people act like using money is an archaic way of doing business.
That doesn’t negate the fact that every gun manufactured is recorded, numbered and accounted for within the general population.
The Government doesn’t NEED to know if you’ve got a gun or guns. They will proceed with their plans and just assume you’ve got guns whether you do or not. The plan proceeds regardless and the end result is the same…you dead and your shit stolen by the Government you elected to protect you.
If anyone thinks they’re going to get a do-over when the gun grabbers come a knockin’, well they might as well shoot themselves now and get it over with.
“I’ll hide it for later”
Yeah. Right. News flash…there will BE NO “later”.
When they come, someone is going to die. Who that is will be up to you.
80% lowers did not have S/N and are not recorded when machined and used to build a firearm. That is why the government has been so intent on bringing them into the FFL process. Uncle Stasi wants to know where every gun in America is located, especially high powered rifles.
If you think it might be time to hide your firearms, it might really be time to use them.
Not in Virginia anymore.
So glad I moved out of that shit hole! I was born and raised there and loved it dearly for a long time. Democrats befouled it beyond redemption. They can keep it.
Underground gun manufacturing? No FFL? Not heard anything like that.
Or Washington…..
I sold one of those ASSAULT RIFLES to a friend but I’m not selling anything else to anybody. I prepared two bills of sale and presented one to the friend with both our names , addresses, signatures, description and SN on them in the event (mostly for my “protection” if that is remotely possible) some asshole steals the firearm from him and goes out shooting people.
Of all things a brother with head up ass had come into a sawed off 20GA Stevens pump shotgun with the SN filed off and wanted to “give” it to me. FUCK THAT. A very good chance stolen, duh!
I sold a shotgun when I was 16 and had seller’s remorse very soon thereafter. No reason to sell a gun. I have given several to my son and grandson, but they have been in the family for 100 years.
I decided AKs aren’t for me. Don’t “need” two. (Oops)
I’d never sell anything hat belonged to the family jewels. I’ve had three firearms “disappear” but would never sell the jewels.
Planning on going though with that background check?
Filling out that 4473 form?
ATF and FBI now know about your gun.
Fooling yourself thinking just you and the gun store know about that gun.
So it matters not paying cash or credit card if buying from a licensed dealer. Your purchase is a known anyway.
1. A form of registration.
2. Why do so many hate freedom?
3. Centralization is the kill shot.
Why the fuck would I buy a gun using a credit card in the first place?
It’s just so 1960’s.
Cash makes no difference if it is from a legitimate dealer…still gonna FFL. Dealers at gun shows run background checks on the spot and have you fill out FFL whether you buy with credit card, cash or your extraordinarily good looks.
And those legitimate dealers are also going to inform all credit card companies and the ISO in Geneva?
Otherwise thanks for answering a question that wasn’t asked.
You’re welcome. The dealers are out to get you no doubt.
Just find a stolen gun. Credit cards not accepted.
Sorry , it came across as you asking yourself.
On September 14, 2022 7:12 am, Winchester commented:
Pardon my delay. You would be the only one that could definitively answer your question. Does it matter?
Buck – Where can I get a firearm just using my extraordinary good looks? I have been shopping in the wrong stores.
I understand many women on FB are into guns, at least around here. Just ask around, the art of A deal.
Online transfer
People don’t have your personal finances
Hum, but Online would mean those bits and bytes of data are somewhere so some snoop could determine that transfer. All I’m saying, anything or very much to do with Internet Protocol ( TCP/IP ) risks security and as it was developed brainy people warned of the security ramifications.
In a nutshell very little people do anymore is private. I’m stepping out to the outhouse for some privacy , but is it really private, what with the hyper development of satellite imagery?
If these guys really want to track all gun sales, I suggest they open a branch on the South side of Chiraq and track the street corner deals. I’m sure the locals would be happy to cooperate.
I’m not concerned. I just don’t care to confront the swat team , militarized control freaks that have emerged since 911. Firearms enthusiasts that think Trump is their savior ain’t thinking what the moron said , “I like taking the guns first”. I’ll refrain from any “rallies” anywhere near locally. Trump is not “your” gun guy.
Trump is a NYC kind of guy and not someone I put much trust in. He goes with what is good for him and good for him is hired guns to protect him and his family. I don’t have the money to buy hired guns or politicians.