Size Matters – On A U.S. Ground Intervention In Ukraine

Guest Post by Moon of Alabama

A European financial research company has sent me one of their quarterly research letters. It is a ‘contrarian review of political and military ramifications’ of the war in Ukraine. It analyzes ‘winners and losers’ of the war.

It is contrarian only in the sense that it counters the false views of ‘western’ mainstream media with reality. The losers of the war are all on the ‘western’ side with the only two winners being the owners of the U.S. defense industry and Russia.

I was sent the courtesy copy because, as the company writes, the discussions at Moon of Alabama were “immensely helpful” in forming their view.

Note to the authors: You are welcome.

I will not quote from the paper as it seems to be a somewhat confidential business product. But I will steal two graphics from it that will help to understand the size of the war in Ukraine and how it will NOT end.

There have been theories that Poland or some U.S. led coalition force would intervene with their troops on the ground in Ukraine to ‘kick the Russians out’.

The two graphics though dispel any hope for such an operation.

The following is an operational map of Desert Storm. The U.S. led operation in spring 1991 to kick Iraq out of Kuwait.


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It took the U.S. some nine month to assemble a forces of some 700,000 U.S. and 250,000 allied troops with all their equipment. Iraq had an estimated 650,000 troops in the theater. The U.S. first created total air superiority by destroying Iraq’s fighter aircraft and air defense forces. With that done it took only 100 hours of ground operation to destroy a third of the Iraqi forces. The rest of the Iraqi army retreated under fire towards Baghdad.

There are some 550,000 Russian troops in and around Ukraine. A hypothetical operation to ‘kick Russia out’ would thereby have about the same size as Desert Storm. But the geographic dimensions differ drastically.

The following is an operational map of Desert Storm from above overlaid in scale on the map of Ukraine.


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The map was turned to the left by 90 degree. North is to the left, east at the top and Crimea in the south to the right.

Russia occupies some 87,000 square kilometer of Ukraine. The Desert Storm theater around Kuwait was five times smaller.

A hypothetical U.S. coalition of the size of Desert Storm could probably cross the Dnieper and cut of Crimea. But it could do little more than that. The Donetz and Luhansk oblasts and Crimea itself would still be in Russian hands.

But there are many reasons why no such operation will ever be planned and executed.

  • The U.S. no longer has a force of the size it committed to Desert Storm. Nor do its allies.
  • The U.S. was able to create air superiority in Iraq because it could fly from nearby Saudi airfields and from aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Air superiority in eastern Ukraine could only be achieved with the destruction of long range air-defenses within Russia. The next safe air fields the U.S. could use are in Poland and Romania. No U.S. aircraft carrier will dare to enter the Black Sea. U.S. fighter planes to not have the necessary reach for combat missions in eastern Ukraine.
  • The Ukrainian rail system is by now a mess. It is incapable of moving a large force from the west into east Ukraine.
  • Any attempt to move a large force through Ukraine would be subject to deep battle interdiction by Russian and Belorussian forces.
  • Iraqi equipment was badly maintained and Iraqi forces were barely trained. Russia has a well trained high tech army.

I could go on but you can certainly see the point.

No U.S. ground troops will move into Ukraine. It is ludicrous to think otherwise.

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15 Comments
Walter
Walter
January 31, 2023 9:13 am

‘Ludicrous to think otherwise’. Large numbers of political prisoners in the US. 80 plus ‘genders’ and legal penalties for referring to them with an incorrect pronoun. Legalizing all drugs. Normalizing pedophilia. Eliminating fossil fuels with no alternative. Open unrestricted borders and illegal immigration. CRT, DEI, ESG. Eliminating nitrogen fertilizer. Eating bugs. Eliminating the vote through official fraud. Trannies as heroic. CHOP, née CHAZ (too gay for the thugs). Legalizing all criminal activity short of murder, if you’re the right color.

Ludicrous. So, yeah, there’s that.

Mountainrat
Mountainrat
January 31, 2023 9:17 am

“No U.S. ground troops will move into Ukraine. It is ludicrous to think otherwise.”

Don’t be too sure, ludicrous is what TPTB do best.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Mountainrat
January 31, 2023 1:42 pm

The 101st Airborne is sitting in Romania. I think the people who stole our country are crazy enough to try anything. They probably can’t wait to try out their new SIG .277×51 rifles and squad weapons with the super expensive widely unavailable ammo. Heavier weapons with heavier ammo resulting in lower round load outs per troop. It’s real whiz bang stuff but the 7.62×54 round in use since 1891 in Russia will kill you just as dead, costs them pennies per round and they have more of it than the grains of sand on a beach.

Stucky
Stucky
  Harrington Richardson
January 31, 2023 4:28 pm

“The 101st Airborne is sitting in Romania. “

The correct name for that outfit is “The 101st Airborne Canon Fodder”.

Chuck
Chuck
  Administrator
January 31, 2023 9:41 am

I think I’ve seen that movie before, except it was the western front

JoeBob
JoeBob
January 31, 2023 9:54 am

Talk about ludicrous –

The DOD is directly involved in murdering American citizens (and others) including children with their bioweapon clot kill shot.

& the people continue to comply.

Jdog
Jdog
January 31, 2023 10:10 am

What people should be concerned with is what if anything is in the mind of simple minded dolt in the White House. What we have is a senile President who does not know where he is. or what is happening, playing a game of nuclear chicken with the most dangerous nuclear arsenal in the world over who is going to run Crimea, when most US citizens could not find Crimea on a map if their life depended on it. A report from the Pentagon think tank the Rand corporation, has stated that continuing the war is detrimental to US interests and puts the US at greater risk of being unprepared for a conflict over Taiwan. This war is causing NATO members to fight among themselves and will probably cause some to leave NATO all together. It will materially weaken Europe in the decades to come, and is damaging the living standards of the people of Europe. By some estimates, the financial hardship placed on the countries of Europe by this war are going to cause the deaths of 150K European citizens. It has become very clear that the costs and the risks of this war are far greater than anything it could ever accomplish.

Ghost
Ghost
January 31, 2023 10:40 am

There are NATO AWACS in Romania and in Poland with fighter CAP, I’ve heard.

This is bad portent for not only the people flying on those sitting ducklings but for the US taxpayer on the hook for the battle of Armageddon.

The US military is always trying to fight its last successful war. For the USA, that was Desert Storm.

Something bad about to happen.

m
m
  Ghost
January 31, 2023 11:02 am

There are NATO AWACS over Romania and Poland probably since 2/25/2022

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  m
February 1, 2023 9:08 am

You got to know what’s going on before you can lie convincingly about it.

Ghost
Ghost
January 31, 2023 10:42 am

Scott Ritter is LIVE with the Alexes on The Duran right now.

Winston from Germany
Winston from Germany
January 31, 2023 12:28 pm

Fuck MoA. This guy is an accomplished vaccine nazi who purged each and every opinion as being from “trolls” on his comment page when it went against his personally cultivated C-19 hysteria. I will never forgive vaccine nazis and MoA was and is one of them. TBP should not give this POS a platform.

Freddy Uranus
Freddy Uranus
  Winston from Germany
January 31, 2023 1:22 pm

Did not know this. I’ve seen his blog mentioned elsewhere too. Will keep your comment in mind when reading anything from him.

m
m
  Winston from Germany
January 31, 2023 1:28 pm

Confirmed.
I actually one day saw a ton of mostly well-formulated, polite critical comments (definitely not bots) under one of his posts, and in the evening he [MoA] had deleted all those, declaring them to be all trolls.

MoA’s geopolitical posts are still quite OK, though.