Have the Ancient Gods Returned?

Submitted by CCRider

I gave up on religion decades ago. Recent events have me inexorably returning to spirituality albeit through the back door. Satan, it seems has come to life. Satanic symbolism is everywhere and the lies and deceit now come unabated and shameless. This piece by Naomi Wolf examines this phenomenon in detail through a Christian and Jewish lens. I like that it brings both religious teachings together.

Guest Post by Naomi Wolf

These days, to my surprise, people want to talk to me about evil.

In a Substack essay last year, and in my book The Bodies of Others, I raised a question about existential, metaphysical darkness.

I concluded that I had looked at the events of the past two and a half years using all of my classical education, my critical thinking skills, my knowledge of Western and global history and politics; and that, using these tools, I could not explain the years 2020-present.

Indeed I could not explain them in ordinary material, political or historical terms at all.

This is not how human history ordinarily operates.

I could not explain the way the Western world simply switched, from being based at least overtly on values of human rights and decency, to values of death, exclusion and hatred, overnight, en masse — without resorting to reference to some metaphysical evil that goes above and beyond fallible, blundering human agency.

When ordinary would-be-tyrants try to take over societies, there is always some flaw, some human impulse undoing the headlong rush toward a negative goal. There are always factions, or rogue lieutenants, in ordinary human history; there is always a miscalculation, or a blunder, or a security breach; or differences of opinion at the top. Mussolini’s power was impaired in his entry to the Second World War by being forced to share the role of military commander with King Victor Immanuel [https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/fascist-king-victor-emmanuel-iii-italy]; Hitler miscalculated his ability to master the Russian weather — right down to overlooking how badly his soldiers’ stylish but flimsy uniforms would stand up to extreme cold. [https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/hitlers-winter-blunder/]. Before he could mount a counter-revolution against Stalinism, Leon Trotsky was assassinated in Mexico City in his bath. [https://www.historytoday.com/archive/months-past/leon-trotsky-assassinated-mexico]

But none of that fracturing or mismanagement of normal history took place in the global rush to “lockdowns”, the rollout of COVID hysteria, of “mandates”, masking, of global child abuse, of legacy media lying internationally at scale and all lying in one direction, of thousands of “trusted messengers” parroting a single script, and of forced or coerced mRNA injections into at least half of the humans on Planet Earth.

I reluctantly came to the conclusion that human agency alone could not coordinate a highly complicated set of lies about a virus, and propagate the lies in perfect uniformity around an entire globe, in hundreds of languages and dialects. Human beings, using their own resources alone, could not have turned hospitals overnight from having been places in which hundreds of staff members were united in and collectively devoted to the care of the infirm, the prolongation and salvation of human life, the cherishing of newborns, the helping of mothers to care for little ones, the support of the disabled, to killing factories in which the elderly were prescribed “run-death-is-near (Remdesevir)” at scale.

Also look at the speed of change. Institutions turned overnight into negative mirror images of themselves, with demonic policies replacing what had been at least on the surface, angelic ones. Human-history change is not that lightning-fast.

The perception of the rollout, the unanimity of a mass delusion, cannot in my view be explained fully by psychology; not even as a “mass formation.”

There have been other mass hysterias before in history, from “blood libel” – the widespread belief in medieval Europe in the that Jews were sacrificing Christian children to make matzah [https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/blood-libel], to the flareup of hysteria around witches in Salem, MA, in 1692, [https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1098/salem-witch-trials], to the “irrational exuberance” of Tulipmania, also in the 17th century, in the Netherlands [https://www.history.com/news/tulip-mania-financial-crash-holland], detailed by Scottish journalist Charles MacKay in his classic account of group madness, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (1841).

But all of these examples of mass frenzy had dissidents, critics, and skeptics at the time; none of these lasted for years as a dominant uninterrupted delusional paradigm.

What we have lived through since 2020 is so sophisticated, so massive, so evil, and executed in such inhumane unison, that it cannot be accounted for without venturing into metaphysics. Something else, something metaphysical, must have done that. And I speak as a devoted rationalist.

I concluded that I was starting to believe in God in more literal terms than I had before, because this evil was so impressive; so it must be directed at something at least as powerful that was all good.

At the time I wrote my initial essay, I knew that “Satan” was, at least for me, an insufficient explanation for the evil I saw. One reason that I felt that “Satan” was an insufficient name for what we were facing, is that I am Jewish, and we don’t have the same tradition of “Satan” that Christian Western culture inherits and takes for granted.

In Jewish tradition, this entity’s role is not that of the rather majestic adversary of God who appears fully- fledged in the Christian tradition — an elaborated character who was developed subsequent to, as some scholars point out, the influence of Zoroastrianism on Judaism, and then on Christianity, in the years leading up to and after Jesus’ life and death.

In the Old Testament, in contrast, “the Satan” or “ha-Satan” — “the accuser” makes a number of appearances; but “ha-satan” is an opponent, rather than being the majestic villain of the New Testament, and of course of Dante’s and Milton’s characterizations, that so influenced Western ideas of “the devil.”

The way in which the Hebrew “ha-satan” differs from the Christian Satan is important: “Likewise, in Old Testament Hebrew, the noun satan (which occurs 27x) and the verb satan (which occurs 6x) are often used in a general way. If I “satan” someone, I oppose them, accuse them, or slander them. David uses it this way in the psalms, “Those who render me evil for good accuse [שׂטן (satan)] me because I follow after good” (Ps. 38:21). If I act as a “satan” to someone, therefore, I am their adversary or accuser, as the messenger of the Lord stood in the way of Balaam “as his adversary [שׂטן (satan)]” (Numbers 22:22) or as Solomon told Hiram that he had no “adversary [שׂטן (satan)]” who opposed him (1 Kings 5:4).

Thus, in Hebrew, the noun and verb שׂטן (satan) can have the non-technical meaning of “stand opposed to someone as an adversary.” In the case of Balaam, even the Lord’s messenger was a “satan” to him, that is, a God-sent opponent. That is the first point to keep in mind: unlike in English, where “Satan” always refers to a malevolent being, in Hebrew satan can have a generic, non-technical meaning.” [https://www.1517.org/articles/the-devil-in-the-details-of-the-old-testament-is-satan-in-the-hebrew-bible].

Because our (Jewish) tradition of Satan is more impressionistic than the character who appeared later under Christian narratives, I felt that “Satan” was not sufficient to explain fully the inexplicable, immediate mirror-imaging of what had been our society, from ordered at least on the presumption of morality, to being ordered around death and cruelty. But I did not at that time have a better concept with which to work.

Then I heard of a Pastor named Jonathan Cahn, who had written a book titled “The Return of the Gods.” [https://www.christianbook.com/return-of-the-gods-jonathan-cahn/9781636411422/pd/411429]

The title resonated with me.

Though I don’t agree with everything in his book, Pastor Cahn’s central argument — that we have turned away from the Judeo-Christian God and thus we opened a door into our civilization for the negative spirits of “the Gods” to re-possess us — feels right.

Jonathan Cahn is a Messianic Jewish minister. He is the son of a Holocaust refugee. Formerly a secular-atheist, Cahn had a near-death experience as a young man that led him to accept Jesus — or, as he refers to this presence by the original Hebrew name, Yeshua — as his Lord and Savior. Pastor Cahn has a ministry based in Wayne, New Jersey, which brings together Jews and Gentiles. [http://bethisraelworshipcenter.org/about%20Us/AboutJC.php]

In The Return of the Gods, his improbable, and yet somehow hauntingly plausible thesis, is that ancient dark and metaphysically organized forces, “the Gods” of antiquity, have “returned’” to our presumably advanced, secular post-Christian civilization.

Pastor Cahn’s theme is that, because we have turned away from our covenant with YHWH — especially we in America, and we in the West, and especially since the 1960s — therefore, the ancient “Gods”, or rather, ancient pagan energies, that had been vanquished by monotheism and exiled to the margins of civilization and human activity — have seen an “open door”, and thus a ready home to re-occupy, in us.

He argues that they have indeed done so.

Pastor Cahn makes use of a parable in the New Testament to make this case. I cite the King James Version:

Matthew 12:43-45

“43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.

45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation”. [https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-12-43/]

Pastor Cahn makes the case that the ancient “gods” were initially, in essence, put on the defensive, as the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) recounts, first by Yahweh, and by the introduction of monotheism and the revelation of the Ten Commandments; and then that they were vanquished altogether and sent into outer darkness, by the arrival to humanity of the being whom he sees as the Messiah, Yeshua.

One might right away resist such a phrasing; what do you mean, “the Gods”? But Cahn is both careful and accurate in his translations and his tracing of four millennia of religious history through a set of phrases.

Cahn rightly points out that the Hebrew Bible refers to what in Hebrew is rendered “shedim” or negative spirits (in modern Hebrew, this word means “ghosts”). Cahn correctly points out that these spirits, powers or principalities were worshipped in the pagan world in many guises — from the fertility god Baal to the goddess of sexuality Ashera or Ashtaroth; to the destructive idol, Moloch. He rightly points out that the ancient world was everywhere consecrated to these dark or lower entities, and that worshippers went to the point of sacrificing their own children to propitiate these forces. He correctly reflects the central narrative of the Tribes of Israel as alternately embracing Yahweh and his Ten Commandments and ethical covenant, and finding it all too taxing, and thus falling away to whore after these pagan gods. He notes that the gods of the Old Testament world descended in updated guise into Greco-Roman life, taking on new names: Zeus, Diana, and so on.

He correctly notes that the Septuagint, the early Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, rendered “shedim” as Daimones. This word is rendered also as “spirit personifications”; we receive this word in English today, as “demons.”[https://www.theoi.com/greek-mythology/personifications.html]

Having accurately traced the lineage of pagan worship and pagan forces, Cahn makes the case that they were never overcome by the embrace in the West of Christianity; but rather that they were pushed to the margins of Western civilization; weakened by our covenant with YHWH, or with Jesus, depending on whom we are.

He argues that these negative but potentially powerful forces have been dormant for two millennia, by the Western Judeo-Christian covenant. [https://www.theoi.com/greek-mythology/personifications.html]. And that they have now taken this opportunity, of our turning away from God, and they have returned.

We, thus, are the house that has been cleaned — by the covenant with the Judeo-Christian commitment. But we subsequently abandoned the house, he maintains, and left it vulnerable; open, for negative energies to re-enter.

Though it is unfashionable now to talk about our Judeo-Christian founding and heritage in the West, it should not be. This legacy is simply an historical fact. I do not think one needs to be dismissive of or insulting to Buddhism or Islam (which is also part of the Judeo-Christian lineage, but that’s another essay) or Jainism or Shintoism, to acknowledge the fact that the West’s civilization for the past two millennia has been a Judeo-Christian one, and that our Founders in this nation, though rightly establishing religious freedom, believed that they were consecrating a nation in alignment with the will of God as they understood him.

Cahn cites Puritan Minister Jonathan Winthrop in warning that America’s state of being blessed by God, will last only as long as we hold up our end of the Covenant.

It is worth returning to Pastor Winthrop’s famous speech and to his invocation of the covenant that undergirded the foundation of America:

“Thus stands the cause between God and us. We are entered into covenant with Him for this work. We have taken out a commission. The Lord hath given us leave to draw our own articles. We have professed to enterprise these and those accounts, upon these and those ends. We have hereupon besought Him of favor and blessing. Now if the Lord shall please to hear us, and bring us in peace to the place we desire, then hath He ratified this covenant and sealed our commission, and will expect a strict performance of the articles contained in it; but if we shall neglect the observation of these articles which are the ends we have propounded, and, dissembling with our God, shall fall to embrace this present world and prosecute our carnal intentions, seeking great things for ourselves and our posterity, the Lord will surely break out in wrath against us, and be revenged of such a people, and make us know the price of the breach of such a covenant.

Now the only way to avoid this shipwreck, and to provide for our posterity, is to follow the counsel of Micah, to do justly, to love mercy, to walk humbly with our God.”

[https://www.americanyawp.com/reader/colliding-cultures/john-winthrop-dreams-of-a-city-on-a-hill-1630/]

Why do I share all of this? Because while it would be easy to dismiss Pastor Cahn’s theory as wacky and fanatical, I have reluctantly come to believe that his central premise may be right.

In the Old Testament, it is not “ha-Satan” who is the most fearsome, treacherous, dangerous of figures. It is rather, “the Gods” who are the seductive abominations — that is to say, the ancient, pre-YHWH, pre-Mosaic, pre-Christian gods: our old adversaries in the Hebrew Bible — YHWH’s adversaries: Baal, Moloch (or Malek), and Astarte or Ashera.

Those are “the Gods” that traduced, lured, hounded, bedeviled, and seduced my people — again and again. Those are “the Gods” about whom this extraordinary innovation in the human story — the monotheistic God of all – continually, specifically warns us; warns the Children of Israel.

Those are “the Gods” to whose sacrifice the Children of Israel constantly stray, disappointing and enraging our Creator. Those are “the Gods,” with their child sacrifice and their graven images, against whom our father Abraham rebelled and taught his descendants to rebel. Those are “the Gods” whose acceptance of child sacrifice – a real thing, a barbaric, culture-wide practice that continued for centuries in the tribes and civilizations surrounding the Children of Israel — was supplanted by animal sacrifice; this was an evolution in human civilization that is represented by the story of Abraham’s near-sacrifice of his son Isaac, when the child on the altar is replaced miraculously by a ram provided, at the last moment, by the Lord God.

The sheer amoral power of Baal, the destructive force of Moloch, the unrestrained seductiveness and sexual licentiousness of Astarte or Ashera — those are the primal forces that do indeed seem to me to have “returned.”

Or at least the energies that they represent — moral power-over; death-worship; antagonism to the sexual orderliness of the intact family and faithful relationships — seem to have ‘returned,’ without restraint, since 2020.

There may well indeed be negative forces re-appearing, or emerging into daylight from out of their less visible domains, who we, after two millennia of Judeo-Christianity, have literally forgotten, at least in Western civilization, how to identify. It may well be that these negative forces are highly complex, extraordinarily powerful, and stunningly well organized.

It may indeed be the case that they have swept themselves back into our “house” in the West, and emerged visibly in the past two years.

I do believe that they were able to do so because we dropped our own end of upholding a basic covenant with God.

After having gone back to the Old Testament, it is clear to me that YHWH warned us that this could happen — that we could easily lose his protection and break the Covenant.

He warned us, indeed, over and over, in the Hebrew Bible, of this risk.

I was taught in Hebrew School that we as Jews are forever God’s “chosen people.”

But God does not say that consistently in the Old Testament, at all.

There are many times a “Covenant” is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible. But when YHWH explains what He wants from this Children, in “Exodus”, He is clear that certain conduct is expected from us, in order for us to receive his blessing:

“God established the Mosaic covenant just after a significant development anticipated in Gen 15 had taken place: the emancipation of Abraham’s descendants from oppression in a foreign land (cf. Gen 15:13–14; Exod 19:4–6; 20:2). The focus at Sinai is less on what Abraham’s descendants must do in order to inherit the land and more on how they must conduct themselves within the land as the unique nation that God intended them to be (Exod 19:5–6). In order to be God’s “treasured possession,” “kingdom of priests,” and “holy nation” (Exod 19:5–6), Israel must keep God’s covenant by submitting to its requirements (i.e., the stipulations set forth in Exod 20–23). By adhering to these and the subsequent covenant obligations given at Sinai, Israel would be manifestly different from other nations and thus reflect God’s wisdom and greatness to surrounding peoples (cf. Deut 4:6–8).” [https://www.olivetree.com/blog/discover-5-covenants-bible/]

So He does not say that we are automatically set under His protection forever; rather He says, again and again, that if we, the Children of Israel, act justly, love mercy, visit the sick and protect the widow and orphan, then we will be “his people” and we will have His covenant – his blessing and protection.

He also warns, directly Himself and also through His many prophets — that we can lose His protection, by dropping our end of the Covenant; a Covenant that goes, as all contracts or agreements do, two ways.

And God is very clear, at least in the Old Testament; He says in certain places: you left the paths of righteousness, so now I withdraw my protection from you.

I always thought that many Jews, and indeed the education I had in Hebrew School, alarmingly misread what YHWH so clearly stated. I was taught that being “chosen” as God’s people was a static, lucky status. All you had to do was to be born Jewish —- better yet, to be born Jewish, marry a Jewish spouse, raise Jewish children, light Shabbat candles, go to synagogue on the High Holy Days, and visit the State of Israel. I was also taught that God bestowed the Land of Israel to the Jewish people unconditionally.

We were not taught in Hebrew school what the Hebrew Bible really says — that we could indeed lose God’s favor and be “un-Chosen” again.

What God tells us, again and again, throughout the Old Testament, is that He ask for a living, actual, organic relationship with us, the Children of Israel, in which we show our commitment to Him and our devotion to Him as “his people” — through how we treat Him every day; meaning, and through how we treat those around us, as He asked us to, in His name.

That is what he calls “His covenant”. That is what he means by “my people.”

Genesis 9:8, God promises Noah, after the Flood:

8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,

9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;

10 And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.

11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:

15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.

17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-9-17/

Though He promised an ‘everlasting Covenant’, that does not mean we get to do whatever we desire to do here on Earth. He never said He wouldn’t ever, under any circumstances, give up on humanity as we are, in our current context on this planet. He promised, rather, he would not ever again do away with wicked humanity by water.

He always, rightly, made clear to us that in a living partnership with Him, we are supposed to show our love and our recognition of the privilege of being wedded to His path — through our zealous, difficult, freely chosen, unending actions.

Feed the hungry. Every day. Visit those in prison. Care for the orphan. Protect the widow. Do justly.

So — the truth of God’s requests of us, Jews, in the Hebrew Bible, is absolutely not “once Chosen, always Chosen.”

The Covenant is not defined as carte blanche for us to abuse our relationship with our Creator.

Again and again, in the Hebrew Bible, we showed God that we were not up to that daily walk with Him that he requested of us. It’s hard; it’s taxing. The ancient gods around us in the days of the Prophets were so very seductive. They were so much easier — sacrifice a bullock; pour some oil; pay a priest. Visit a temple prostitute.

The ancient Gods did not demand daily acts of justice, mercy, charity, sexual self-restraint, as YHWH, so morally demanding by the standards of the ancient world, had done.

If God’s courtship of the Children of Israel in the Old Testament were a romance novel or a film — which it really is, if read properly — the well-meaning best friend would counsel the Lord of Israel: Give them up. Walk away.

They are just not that into you.

God never said, once I choose you as “my people” — then you can do whatever you want. He does not want a codependent or an abusive relationship.

He wants a real marriage.

Today, we are in grave danger if we, as Jews, think that by honoring our ethnic heritage or even our religious traditions, even if we keep kosher and light the Shabbat candles, that we are doing what YWHW really asked of us.

And the same could be said, and I say this with equal respect, of many Christian churches, books and media messages. I am in dialogue with devout Christians of many denominations, with whom I have shared these anxieties, who also feel that we are in a time of similar moral danger for their own coreligionists, and for similar reasons.

Too few in either community, we agree, seem to understand how dangerous to a nation, to a civilization, abandoning God can be.

There have been times that YHWH’s warnings to us, as the Tribes of Israel, were borne out. A generation that was disobedient to God’s instructions, that insisted on worshipping the Golden Calf, was allowed by God to die in exile from the Promised Land; a new, innocent generation had to be born before the Israelites could enter that land. Later, after due warnings from the Lord, and innumerable warnings from His prophets, ranging from Jeremiah to Isaiah, we did get deported; the First Temple was destroyed; and we were sent into exile in Babylon. We did weep by the rivers of Babylon, in our exile. [https://www.faithwriters.com/article-details.php?id=164682] After due warnings, including from a Rabbi Jesus, we all, Jews and Christians, did see the Second Temple demolished as foretold. [http://www.templemount.org/destruct2.html] We were warned about the destruction of Jerusalem:

“Lament over Jerusalem

(Luke 13:31-35)

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”

We Jews were scattered around the world; our house was left to us desolate; we were sent again into exile.

I feel that many Jews and many Christians are at risk right now of unduly positive thinking — of thinking that everything is ok; that we will all be automatically be redeemed — when it manifestly isn’t ok.

Because Jewish history is longer than Christian history (not a value judgement, just a statement of fact), we have more experience of God’s having indeed withdrawn His protection and left us to the fate about which he warned us.

But even Christian history does not have a promise that God can never withdraw. Though these darker or more wrathful warnings seem less often taught from many pulpits these days than they used to be taught in our Puritan past, Jesus Himself warned His followers about the dire consequnces of amoral behavior —- the serious dangers of being “whited sepulchers” — of neglecting or hurting the poor — or of bringing children to harm. Matthew 13: “But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.”

My point being that our forefathers for both faith traditions, Jewish and Christian, understood that a Covenant — involving God’s blessing and protection — took action from both the Lord and from His people, to be in effect.

It was not an eternal hall pass.

We in this generation have forgotten this.

But I think it is possible that for four thousand plus years — and then for two thousand — God’s covenant has in fact largely protected the West, and that we have had His blessing for so long that we have taken it for granted; and that in the last few years, we have released our hold of God’s covenant – and that God has simply, as He warned us in the Old Testament that he could — withdrawn; and left us to our own devices — so we can see for ourselves how we will do when we depend on human alone. In the absence of God’s covenant and protection in the West, great evil is flourishing.

Pastor Cahn’s premise resonated with me, because the energies that I have felt flooding into our world in the last two years, feel primally recognizable to me as a Jew, – ancestrally recognizable.

These dark forces now freed into the world around us, feel like the way the world must have felt before Moses ascended Mt Sinai; before a baby was born in a manger.

They feel again like the pre-monotheistic past; like the world the Hebrews confronted, when the Word of God was first revealed to them.

It feels again like the ancient world that continually tempted the Hebrews away from the hard, rigorous, daily, demanding practice of morality and of adherence to the Ten Commandments. It feels again like the ancient world felt, being as it was under Baal’s, Moloch’s and Asherah’s dark, inexorable, complex and antihuman rule.

That is to say: it was — and now it is — a world in which humans did not, do not matter. It was – and now is – a world in which children can be slaughtered by their parents, or by the Authorities. It was – it now is — a world in which slavery had and now has no moral valence. Lust and greed were — and now are again — everything. God was not then fully present — and now I argue, as Pastor Cahn argues, God has withdrawn.

The commitment to Judeo-Christian norms and values, which have been the hallmark of the West for two millennia — even when we fell far short of them — has fallen apart altogether.

The great genius of America was not that it was consecrated to a specific religion — the genius of our nation included freedom of religion — but our distinction was that we were founded as a City on a Hill; spiritually; we were consecrated, via our ultimate organizational manifestation of human freedom, with its basis in free will — to God.

If we withdraw our role in that covenant, perhaps Pastor Cahn is right and pagan entities, long held at bay in the West – are empowered, and rush back in.

And so decency, human rights, human values, all of which we thought were innate secular Western values – turn out to be values that cannot be protected enduringly without the blessing of what has been in the West, a Judeo-Christian God. They are all being cleared out of our society, and almost no one — certainly very few people who are not people of faith — are standing in the reach as this takes place.

Now look at our political leaders, our national structures in the West. They went overnight from ethically oriented, at least overtly, to purely nihilistic, organizations. Before 2020, Judeo-Christian norms had not entirely left the West, even though explicit religious language was no longer invoked in its public spaces.

What I mean is that until 2020, Biblical belief systems structured our institutions even though we no longer explicitly invoked God.

The Bible is all around us in the West — or it has been — even though we think we are living in a postmodern reality. We have been blind to its influence, for the most part.

The idea that you should seek peace with your neighbors with whom you disagree, rather than trying to harm them or their children; the notion that a court should deliver impartial justice rather than hand over goods to the more powerful litigant; the idea that the poor and orphaned in a community should be cared for, rather than enslaved or left to starve; these were not the norms of the pagan world.

These are, rather, Biblical beliefs, even though the explicit Judeo-Christian religiosity has been removed from public discourse.

Our institutions in the West, thus, have been like vessels made with the “lost wax” process; they have kept the shape of Biblical concepts and beliefs even though Biblical language in public is now against the law, or has fallen away from being a cultural norm.

But we don’t leave babies to starve — at least we didn’t kill living babies before 2020 — for a reason; our courts at least ostensibly don’t allow cheating or theft in our society, for a reason; we don’t abandon the elderly to the modern equivalent of wild animals — for a reason; and the reasons derive straight from the Ten Commandments; and from both the Old and New testaments. These of course shaped our institutions for millennia even though we think these institutions now are secular.

Though secular, in the West, until 2020, our institutions have retained a Biblical, not a pagan, shape.

Congresses, Parliaments, nonprofits, were organized along what were basically Judeo-Christian ethical frameworks, even though the explicit religious language is no longer part of public discourse. Respect for human rights, the equal value of all, the cherishing of life, the seeking of a peaceful society — while our institutions were far from perfect, these were our institutional values, in the West, at least overtly, until 2020.

All of that changed seemingly overnight.

Pastor Cahn notes that Jesus identified Satan alongside the “Daimones.” Pastor Can refers to these ancient gods, powers, as well as the more modern “Satan”, together, as the “anti-God” forces.

As such, I do feel that this is with what we are terrifyingly grappling. Since 2020 the world, I feel, has been bathed, infused, bombarded even, with intensely powerful energies that are totally unfamilar to us in this generation, but that may derive from a pre-Christian, pre-solidly-Jewish time, a time when early Judaism was struggling with the seductive and oppressive entities that always sought to seduce the Children of Israel away from the monotheistic truth, the One God.

The ancient “shedim” are the only “principalities and powers” I can imagine, that are capable of manifesting a national, and now a global, network of policy advocates, social workers, graphic designers, Members of Parliament, who are all on board with an escalating euthanasia death cult. The ancient “daimones” are the only entities I can imagine powerful enough in just two years and a bit, to destroy families, to ruin sexuality and fertility, to make a mockery of human rights, to celebrate the end of critical thinning, to march us all in lockstep to worship of technocrats and technocracy; medical cultism and an orgiastic cult of self- and other-annihilation.

And — I must notice — if these “shedim” or “daimones” are powerless — why are their symbols reappearing everywhere? I used to see fundamentalist Christians who warned of Satan lurking in rock n roll, as fanatics. But what I myself am seeing around me, I cannot un-see.

A Temple of Baal archway was in fact expensively reconstructed from its original in Syria, and moved to a appear at a major thoroughfare in London, and was now unveiled in Washington DC and in New York. [https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2018/october/arch-of-palmyra-in-dc-coincidence-or-pagan-invitation-nbsp].

Why?

A bizarre opening ceremony in a new train site in Switzerland, at which European leaders were present, included a horned entity (“an Ibex”), the upholding of a symbolic lamb, the appearance of a terrifying angel, and the writhing of nearly naked men and women in S- and M- themed and bondage postures. [https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-36428799].

 

Why?

Katy Perry’s performance in 2015, in which she performs astride a massive mechanical lion, directly echoed the symbology of Ishtar/Ashera, down to her iconic stance.

Why?

Sam Smith’s “Unholy”, bathed in lurid red light, with its Satanic imagery, takes the Grammys, and Billboard respectfully gets a quote from the Church of Satan while mocking the “pearl-clutching” of conservatives.

 

Why?

[https://www.billboard.com/culture/pride/sam-smith-kim-petras-unholy-grammys-church-of-satan-reacts-1235250622/]

A terrifying animated bull figure with glowing red eyes, is apparently worshipped by scantily-dressed male and female dancers, at the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony in Birmingham, England in 2022. This is just bizarre.

Why?

 

The bull was once a symbol of Ba’al:

 

[Source: https://www.thattheworldmayknow.com/fertility-cults-of-canaan]

“SatanCom” is coming to Boston, 2023, and is getting fairly respectful coverage in the Boston Globe. A highlight of the upcoming conference? “Abortion as a (Religious) Right”. The Globe raises no questions about this gathering. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/01/10/metro/get-ready-satancon-2023-largest-satanic-gathering-history-is-coming-boston/

Why?

A statue has been erected to honor the late Supreme Court Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Inexplicably, it has horns and tentacles.

 

[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11680847/Gold-statue-horns-tentacles-paying-homage-Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg-gets-trolled-online.html]

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Shahzia Sikander @shahziasikander
This is NOW 2023 (Bronze) being installed Jan 14th on the roof of the Appellate Division Courthouse of New York State on Madison and 25th

Why?

I could go on and on. Once you see the occult, Satanic, pre-Christian, dark or “daimonistic” themes re-establishing themselves in Western society, you cannot un-see them.

The elite don’t waste time and money creating images, rituals, or themes that have no purpose. I can’t forget that Secret Societies at Yale (and I was a member of a senior society that had a secret element), draw on pre-Christian, indeed pagan, Mithra-cult, ritualistic themes as part of their initiation ceremonies.

Is this all just artistic expression, or edgy window-dressing? Or are we just bored?

All of Western Europe was once consecrated to Jesus, Mary and Saints – or to the Church; almost every chapel, town, village, crossroad; Santander, Mont St Michel, Greyfriars. Much of America too: Santa Barbara, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Catalina. Did that consecration do more than establish place-names?

Did it help keep us safe?

Are we now seeing the costly and intentional process of global elites re-consecrating our America, our West — to negative entities that are — in spite of all the dominant narrative since the 20th century began, arguing the contrary — in fact — real?

As poet Charles Baudelaire pointed out, “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”

The only thing that feel intuitive to me sense is that these pagan forces may indeed once again have gained a foothold again on our planet.

What feels intuitive to me is that God is at the limit of His patience with us.

And He has said,

Okay, you want to do it yourself?

Do it yourself.

And He let us go.

And that this — the absence of the protection of our God – the ascendancy of a realm on Earth of us doing it all ourselves; regarding ourselves; worshipping ourselves, whoring after only human works; releasing ourselves from all lawful constraints, embracing all lusts and all obedience to non-divine authorities; rejecting mercy; celebrating all narcissisms; treating children like animals whom we own, treating the family like a battlefield; treating the Churches and Synagogues as marketing platforms —

This is, indeed –

what the realms of pagan darkness; or of Principalities and Powers – look like.

This may, indeed, be what Hell itself looks like.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
February 24, 2023 2:05 pm

Those from Judea carried off to Babylon became followers of Babylonian witchcraft and spell throwing more than followers of their old religion. That new form of merged religion is what most jews by religion only primarily follow.

kfg
kfg
  Anonymous
February 24, 2023 3:57 pm

The Persians freed them and taught them about God, who spoke light into the world, and his antagonist, the Prince of Darkness.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
February 24, 2023 2:29 pm

Get ready for Flash to have a field day with this. I read it yesterday. She’s on a journey. If you read the comments under her substack entry you would have seen a Rabbi go crazy and give her his email and phone number, telling her to avoid “bloodthirsty Christianity”.

They can’t stand it when a fellow Jew starts looking, and even worse quoting the NT.

She needs to read Michael Heiser’s book Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible. People think those old gods were just wooden and metal idols and don’t realize those idols represented real rebellious creatures in the dimension we currently are unable to see.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Mary Christine
February 24, 2023 2:35 pm

Naomi has had her eyes opened wide on a lot of subjects. She has been one of the biggest leaders fighting the vaccine totalitarians. She has been spending a lot of time with the Warroom people most of whom are traditional Catholics. I’d say it’s been good for her and the rest of us.

CCRider
CCRider
  Harrington Richardson
February 24, 2023 3:12 pm

She was writing about creeping tyranny for more than a decade.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  CCRider
February 25, 2023 11:29 am

Well played CC thank for sharing.

Ed
Ed
  Mary Christine
February 24, 2023 2:54 pm

Ever hear a first hand description of the hell that departing Mormons have to pay in order to “leave” the faith? Worse than the Inquisition.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Ed
February 24, 2023 6:22 pm

Fuck ’em. If they had balls and brains they wouldn’t be Mormon in the first place. It’s a cult.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Ed
February 24, 2023 9:34 pm

What’s wrong with the Inquisition?!?!?

Paleocon
Paleocon
  Mary Christine
February 24, 2023 3:02 pm

Heiser is genius. His book, Its Supernatural, is the Unseen Realm in a nonscholarly format. Pray for him as he transitions to face Jesus.

Stucky
Stucky
  Paleocon
February 24, 2023 5:34 pm

Heiser is considered a heretic in many Christian circles.

I have the book you referenced. Loved it. Heretics are among my favorite people. It takes ballz ‘n brainz to be a good heretic.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Stucky
February 24, 2023 6:24 pm

I wouldn’t call him “heretic”, but I certainly think he was misguided in several of his positions.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
March 2, 2023 11:04 pm

Yes, if he really were a heretic, but he’s not. He’s just a bought and paid for academician.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
February 24, 2023 3:30 pm

Heiser’s book was quite good.

flash
flash
  Mary Christine
February 24, 2023 9:14 pm

True. Psalms 82. The Most High’s created gods are as real as the Wolf masquerading as a sheep and Deep Shekels blood libel. Btw, the Salem witch massacres were bullshit, too .See Mile Mathis for the complete story.

Btw ,a fine tribute I just stumbled upon for Michael Heiser.
We are our brother’s keeper.

brewer55
brewer55
  Mary Christine
February 25, 2023 1:20 pm

If you want to hear the full story of what started her journey, this video, although long at 2 hours with Eric Metaxas, is excellent. She discusses an encounter with who she believed to be Jesus, that she can’t get out of her head. Because of her Jewish heritage and upbringing, she is hitting big time resistance in her own circle of friends, and most importantly, within her own mind.

Any Christian on this forum should add Naomi Wolf to their prayer list that she takes down the walls she has erected (and I’m sure demonic forces) and to embrace the real truth, Jesus the Christ.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  brewer55
February 25, 2023 1:52 pm

Interesting, Brewer. You have a link? Never mind. I see it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
March 2, 2023 11:01 pm

Beware of Heiser. He’s a bought and paid for academic. A gate keeper of the system.

I don’t doubt that there might be dissent among them, (the so called gods) after all they’re not really gods. They’re just advanced beings that live in the whole of reality, while we have been restricted to just a small portion of it. An almighty, all knowing God of love would never tolerate a rebellion of that kind at the expense of his earthly creatures.

Check out Mauro Biglino and Paul Willis.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
February 24, 2023 2:31 pm

I believe the lady is definitely on to something. Some of these sound like the Four Horsemen. Some sound like Ghostbusters if it was not a comedy. All sound bad.

brewer55
brewer55
  Harrington Richardson
February 25, 2023 1:23 pm

You need to listen to her account of a vision/encounter, with who she believes was Jesus. It happened over 10 years ago and she was brought to tears talking to Eric Metaxas about it. Long, but good interview.

flash
flash
  brewer55
February 25, 2023 3:14 pm

Professing visions are the very first sign of a fraudulent spirit, person or both. I trust the witch even less now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 24, 2023 2:46 pm

From ‘ Mystery Babylon ‘ to secret societies to the ‘ black-rock ‘ in the UN temple room it all comes down to one thing – rebellion.

” DO AS THOU WILT SHALL BE THE WHOLE OF THE LAW ” is at its core.

viefag.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/transcripts-of-william-cooper-s-mystery-babylon-series.pdf

That link is to Bill Coopers documentary on just who ‘ they ‘ are, and all they believe.

Paleocon
Paleocon
February 24, 2023 3:03 pm

2 Thessalonians 2:11: And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie

ray
ray
  Paleocon
February 24, 2023 3:33 pm

But that strong delusion is not sent to persons until after they have demonstrated an ongoing disdain, or hatred, for the truth.

After that, they get ‘taken under’.

Unreconstructed
Unreconstructed
  Paleocon
February 25, 2023 7:28 am

Psalm 9:17

The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Unreconstructed
March 2, 2023 11:11 pm

Which god?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Paleocon
March 2, 2023 11:10 pm

All those scriptures were meant for certain people living in those times 2,000 years ago. They don’t apply today. And why would a god of love delude some of his children to believe a lie? It doesn’t make any sense.

Winston from Germany
Winston from Germany
February 24, 2023 3:09 pm

The spirit of the message of Jesus, a person who never lived, compiled and curated over many decades if not centuries (google “Origines” for a start), got lost early in the process. Christianity is the institutionalized opposite of the teaching of Jesus who is compassion and love – and has been the tool of choice for SATAN ever since. “Judeochristian” btw is a nonssensical term, a political term, if you so wish, invented to introduce the false idea that Judaism and Christianity have a common core – which they have not. Don’t take my word, just read the Sermon on the mount.

Naomi Wolf is correct however, in that the depth, magnitude and “nature” of the planetary-synchronized, organized-like evil goes beyond what social, psychological, cyclical, historical approaches of explanation can tackle.

Stucky
Stucky
  Winston from Germany
February 24, 2023 5:38 pm

“… The spirit of the message of Jesus, a person who never lived,”

If I said that the Haters and Holy Rollers would appear faster than you can say “Stucky sucks DDD”.

You get three fucken thumbs up!

Life isn’t fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Stucky
February 24, 2023 6:28 pm

This might come as a shock, but we aren’t ALL going to Heaven, Stucky. Even flaming assholes have opinions. Like-minded orifices will no doubt concur, but it signifies nothing.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  The Central Scrutinizer
March 2, 2023 11:17 pm

There’s no heaven for humans, otherwise we would have been placed there from the beginning. The bible says that the earth was made for man and man for the earth. We’re dirt and to dirt we will return. Period. Everything else was invented later to give you a false hope for a future life that will never come, while you slave in this hell called earth. The earth is a farm. We’re someone else’s property.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Winston from Germany
February 24, 2023 9:52 pm

If you want to say you don’t believe Christian doctrine, that wouldn’t be illogical, but that “person who never lived” stuff is silly. You would, of course, dispute the argument about Josephus, etc. Don’t miss the forest for the trees. The rapid and indisputable growth of the early church was within a couple generations. It would be like saying Joseph Smith didn’t exist.

It’s obviously true that the canon wasn’t formalized for centuries, but a strong case exists that the entire canonical New Testament was written before the destruction of the temple. Most arguments of the “late-daters” stem from liberal ideology. The later they can push the date the text was written, the more they can brush aside the importance or validity of the text.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
February 26, 2023 3:22 pm

But there is plenty of evidence Joseph Smith existed. So far I haven’t seen good rebuttals of the mythological Christ theory. Then again once I was convinced I dropped most research because that aspect of it is frankly boring to me.

The speed of growth of a religion has no bearing on its truth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
March 2, 2023 11:35 pm

There’s absolutely no proof that the man ever existed. He was just a rehash of many other pagan Christs that came before him. Just like Christmas. There’s no Jesus Christ in Christmas. It’s of pagan origin. The Christ concept has been very useful throughout history by the owners of this world in fooling the masses.

And besides, if he really existed, his words in the Bible were directed to his disciples only. Specially his apostles back then. He told them that the kingdom was coming, it was near, at hand. He also said that some of them would be alive to see it. That’s why he sent them to announce the good news of the kingdom. It was supposed to arrive back then, not 2,000 years in the future.

Since then, every generation of so called Christians have been fooled into thinking that it’s going to happen during their time. Like I said, the story has been very useful to the owners of the farm. It’s time to wake up!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Winston from Germany
February 25, 2023 6:59 am

“got lost early in the process.”
Rome was failing, overrun by the Barbarians, they needed a new rallying point, and decided on Christianity. They then stole the lands and property of the Greek Orthodox church, and lost Constantinople to Islam.
At the time the Western Roman Empire fell in 476 CE, Christianity was still spreading. It is also important to remember that Christianity itself did not appear suddenly or fully-formed. Christianity grew out of Jewish traditions and was shaped by Roman cultural and political structures for several centuries.
To take one lasting example, the head of the Roman Catholic Church—the Pope—takes his title from the old Roman office of pontifex maximus—the high priest. Roman culture was not wholly replaced, but was often repurposed as it came into contact with other peoples and cultures.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Winston from Germany
February 25, 2023 11:32 am

Is there a Bible without The Old Testament?
Sounds like an obvious common core to me.

flash
flash
  ottomatik
February 25, 2023 3:17 pm

Yes, and there is Christianity without either. Christ speaks to the heart though the message of confession, salvation and resurrection and the heart chooses to follow or not.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
March 2, 2023 11:38 pm

In delusional minds only.

ray
ray
February 24, 2023 3:28 pm

Naomi Wolf should have thought about these things before she (and her nation) backed Feminism. Which is the ur-rebellion against God.

Bit late now to be going on about ancient demons returning. Which assuredly they have done. How about renouncing your ideology of female empowerment, Naomi? Seems to me that secular female Jews were at the forefront of the feminist movement. The very spearhead of satan, one might say.

CCRider
CCRider
  ray
February 24, 2023 4:07 pm

A very valid point but has your opinion changed over the last 30 years? Maybe hers will also. She will get the point of that gargoyle statue in NYC of RB Ginsberg.

World War Zero
World War Zero
  ray
February 24, 2023 4:52 pm

@ray
But, being human, she didn’t. To encourage blocking someone from finding their path to salvation is to cast a first stone. It takes time for very gifted people to finally see beyond their own talents into the wider world. Especially when blinded by a community that will now surely replace their former support with spitting hatred.

As you decide what pure words to put in other’s mouths, see if you can find anything worthwhile in Luke 15:11–32.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
February 24, 2023 3:29 pm

Wow. Quite the amazing revelation from a Jewish writer. So much of what she reveals is accurate; the sudden surge of evil upon the world. It was always there, right under the surface, waiting for the right moment to strike. That moment, a supposed virus, opened the door and allowed said principalities and powers to really strut their stuff. I’m glad she’s coming around and beginning to comprehend the magnitude of evil extant around us.

The idea that America has any kind of covenant with God is just profoundly wrong however. It was to Israel and Israel alone did God make if/then covenant agreements. Over and over again does scripture confirm this.

The idea that Christians are in covenant relationship with God, though very popular, is also profoundly wrong as well. Today, Gods grace is offered freely with no strings attached!

Israel fell out of Gods favor by committing the “unpardonable sin”; blasphemy against the Holy Spirit in Acts 7. At the chapters end we see Christ STANDING on Gods right hand, ready to return in wrath, the tribulation about to begin.

In the greatest fake of all time did that NOT happen! Instead, Jesus appeared to the monster Saul of Tarsus and altered Gods relationship with man inexorably. No longer was Israel “chosen”, though His promises to them will be fulfilled. The dispensation of grace begun with Saul’s conversion to Paul the apostle. A new chapter in human history; a pause in the prophetic timeline. One last chance.

Believers today are in a “no covenant”, non if/then relationship with God; much to the dismay of the world’s religious institutions who would deceive us to further their control over us. Do you think they’re immune? It’s them that’s evils main focus! These institutions need to hide Paul’s message of free grace from God to the world to keep themselves in power over the world, and they do an excellent job.

For years I have been encouraging y’all to “read more Paul”. I’ve stopped short of ever saying “the end is near”. I’ve always tried to provide the solution to the problem of evil, simple salvation. I don’t think I’d be going out on a limb to say, we all see the same things occurring as Naomi writes. We all “feel” there’s something different in the air. That’s cause there is. This is no ordinary fourth turning. This is something far greater.

I do believe time is short. That Gods patience with humanity is running out. Principality’s and power’s are running wild in this world. The door is yet open, the door is Christ. For the love of all that’s good, step through the doorway… here’s how.

Simple Salvation

CCRider
CCRider
  grace country pastor
February 24, 2023 3:56 pm

Thanks for weighing in, Pastor. I was hoping to have your views on this subject. In that Jews don’t worship Jesus and, according to the faith I was taught, therefore cannot enter Heaven. Is that your view as well?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  CCRider
February 24, 2023 4:10 pm

Great article CCR! Yes, God has always made a pathway to Himself. It always equals “believe what I say”. Today that path is faith that the shed blood of Christ is the sufficient payment in full for individual sin debt. To “work not”…

Romans 4:5 KJB… “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

This is a stumbling block to all religious institutions. Imagine; work not! That’s the exact opposite of what “churches” teach! Human efforts are an insult to the amazingly graceful gift God offers. If anyone, Jew or Gentile decide otherwise, it is damnation.

In this period of time (dispensation) God does not recognize either Jew or Gentile; for all have sinned and come short of His glory.

Romans 5:8 KJB… “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

Grace and peace… 😊

CCRider
CCRider
  grace country pastor
February 24, 2023 5:31 pm

You’re a gem.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  CCRider
February 24, 2023 5:35 pm

Thank you, that’s a lot better than blasphemer… 😆

flash
flash
  grace country pastor
February 25, 2023 8:31 am

Strong words, and I apologize.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  flash
February 25, 2023 11:23 am

Apology accepted! Thank you!

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  grace country pastor
February 24, 2023 5:15 pm

The idea that Christians are in covenant relationship with God, though very popular, is also profoundly wrong as well. Today, Gods grace is offered freely with no strings attached! That is really beautifully said.
It is love, grace, and love alone that moves us into the higher consciousness, many mansions. What is this love but the holy spirit. What is the holy spirit? It is the light and sound of God. Paul experienced the light on the road to Damascus. Others experience the Holy Spirit as Sound or both light and sound. Paul asks what is a Son of God? Anyone that experiences the holy spirit is a son of God. So, you don’t have to be a Christian to experience the Holy Spirit. Jesus wasn’t, and Paul wasn’t either.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  AKJOHN
February 24, 2023 5:32 pm

Paul asks what is a Son of God? Anyone that experiences the holy spirit is a son of God.

Scripture? Kind of confusing AK. Salvation isn’t necessarily an “experience” though I certainly felt a great sense of relief when I got saved.

I tend not to trust my experiences or my senses when it comes to Spiritual things. There are many deceiving spirits about pretending to be holy.

Galatians 1:8 KJB… “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”

Paul (via the Holy Spirit) was concerned enough to warn people about rogue angels! Yikes…

So, you don’t have to be a Christian to experience the Holy Spirit. Jesus wasn’t, and Paul wasn’t either.

Jesus was born under the law, this is true.

Galatians 4:4 KJB… “But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,”

Paul however was the first human member of the church which is His body.

1 Timothy 1:15-16 KJB… “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.”

Paul, the first Christian! Saved by the grace of God alone, not deserving of any…

Machinist
Machinist
  grace country pastor
February 24, 2023 7:21 pm

Romans 10:10 KJV
“For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.”

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Machinist
February 25, 2023 11:30 am

Paul here is speaking about Israel. All throughout Romans 9-11, follow the pronouns in a KJB. This is not a salvation verse for us. We need to reckon His blood as payment for sin and nowhere in this verse is our sin mentioned.

9 – Israel past
10 – Israel “now”
11 – Israel future

Very interesting! Compare the verse you quoted with…

Matthew 10:32-33 KJB… “Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.”

Israel’s job was to see and confess that Jesus was in fact the Christ, their promised Messiah.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  grace country pastor
February 24, 2023 7:23 pm

God gives us experiences just like he gave us eyes to see, ears to hear, etc… To not trust your experiences and senses is ridiculous as they are all the gift that makes us who we are. You may be confused. I am not.

Ken31
Ken31
  AKJOHN
February 24, 2023 8:37 pm

It seems the Lord frequently makes Himself known through the senses.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Ken31
February 24, 2023 9:42 pm

You hit the nail on the head. But more through our inner senses than outer senses.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  AKJOHN
February 25, 2023 11:33 am

Be very careful with what you experience…

2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 KJB… “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”

Me, I’ll walk by faith in Gods words, not by the sight of my eyes or sound through my ears.

flash
flash
  grace country pastor
February 25, 2023 8:27 am

“These institutions need to hide Paul’s message of free grace from God to the world to keep themselves in power over the world, and they do an excellent job.”

And, this is where your message fails. You’re so hung up on separating Christians, which you may as well refer to as Paulians, from Christ that you negate the one true message, Christ came for us all and that the only way to the Father, regardless what you have or haven’t read is thru Christ.

One can never even heard of Paul or the Old/New Testament and come to Christ thru trust and faith, which encouraged by the Christian message from any denomination or dogma, is often enough. Scripture shows that first step taken on the path to eternity with God can arise from total ignorance of ever reading the New Testament , yet set aflame from the silent voice of God speaking thru even a false doctrine, because as he has said, God can take even the most corrupt message the adversary can deliver and use if for his good.

I’m now wondering if this Paulian-Christianity is just a new twist on the Judeo-Christianity lie, wherein instead of the Protestant becoming the chosen only through the broken Israel covenant, we now must go thru Paul to reach the Father, both of which are total contradiction to what Jesus says in John 14:6 .

Christianity doesn’t need any more confusion, brother. There is no purpose in believing Paul came to save the Gentiles thru his personal gospel for converting new Christians to the faith, other than confusing them on the reason God sent his Son to save humanity. The world is all humanity. There is no Jew or Gentile.

John 3:17
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

The words of Christ pertaining to the great commission cannot be ignored neither negated by denial of the disciples obedience nor Paul taking up the mantle. The horse you beat is dead and serves no purpose other than confusion ( a tool of Satan) and more division of an already dangerously divided Church.

Peace.

https://youtu.be/fzSkIBgeETo

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  flash
February 25, 2023 11:40 am

Need to be at my shop early today. May I speak to this later on? Very important stuff here…

flash
flash
  grace country pastor
February 25, 2023 3:19 pm

Thanks. I’ll be checking back.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  flash
February 27, 2023 3:13 pm

Sorry to have taken so long flash… the weekend got super busy.

One can never even heard of Paul or the Old/New Testament and come to Christ thru trust and faith

I’m in 100% agreement with you. One does not need to be an expert to comprehend salvation. It’s so easy a child can understand.

which encouraged by the Christian message from any denomination or dogma, is often enough.

I attended a methodist church for 25 years and never, not once did I hear a salvation message preached. I’ve visited many other churches as well and with very few exceptions did I hear “it is finished”. My family is methodist and catholic and exactly none of them are saved. All hate it when I even mention the name of Christ.

And, this is where your message fails. You’re so hung up on separating Christians

I’m not trying to separate anyone. I’m trying to unite under truth. It’s the denominations of the world that separate people.

which you may as well refer to as Paulians, from Christ that you negate the one true message, Christ came for us all and that the only way to the Father, regardless what you have or haven’t read is thru Christ.

You can fairly call me a mid-Acts Pauline dispensationalist. I do anything BUT negate saving grace through faith in Christs shed blood, man! All I talk about here is that exact message! Christ in all, Christ through all, Christ is all. There is no Bible “character” that speaks more lovingly about Gods saving grace through faith that the apostle Paul!

I’m now wondering if this Paulian-Christianity is just a new twist on the Judeo-Christianity lie

It surely is not. I’m your witness. There is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity…. The only God sanctioned religion ever is the Jewish religion as He delivered it to the Jewish fathers. Like everything man touched it became obscene. In Acts chapter 7 did the Jews receive their third strike and God did forsake them. Forever? No, but for the past 2,000 years has He not recognized them as His own.

This is why, in order to understand and avoid the mass of confusion that “Christianity” has become, we must, as Paul instructs, rightly divide the word of truth. God made promises to those ancient people that must be kept. He’s also made promises to folks like us that must be kept. These things are different from one another. He did promise believing Israel some land. Scriptural fact. He has promised us a home in the heavens! To the Jews will heaven come to them in the form of a beautiful new city. We go TO heaven and occupy that place.

wherein instead of the Protestant becoming the chosen only through the broken Israel covenant, we now must go thru Paul to reach the Father

There are no “chosen” today. The protestant and catholic belief that we somehow replace Israel is not accurate. God is doing something different in the world today. Like the law was delivered through one man Moses, Christs message of grace was delivered through one man Paul. We don’t go “through Paul” to get to the Father, but we do learn what the Father is doing by reading Paul! Salvation is through Christ for all men. For us heavenly people today and for His earthly people at some time in the future.

If we fail to understand what God is doing in the world at any given time, we will wind up confused and unable to properly show people how to be saved! Look at these two verses…

1) Matthew 24:13 KJB… “But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”

2) Ephesians 2:8-9 KJ B… “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

These verses are very different from one another. One requires endurance to achieve salvation. The other requires faith, not endurance (work). So, which is it? Need I endure to the end, or can I be saved right now?

Of course I can be saved right now! But I wouldn’t know that if I failed to rightly divide truth from truth. Truth for me today or truth for another tomorrow!

The words of Christ pertaining to the great commission cannot be ignored neither negated by denial of the disciples obedience nor Paul taking up the mantle.

The great commission as in…

Matthew 28:19-20 KJB… “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”

Do you not see the radical difference between this commandment and that which Jesus says via the apostle Paul? Grace alone, through faith alone, in the blood alone. Can you or anyone actually keep all the commandments??? All the words of the Bible are Gods words, and none any less important that others. It all Gods word. Don’t be taken in by thinking the red letters are more important that the black ones.

Jesus in the flesh came for Israel as their promised King. In the flesh He said…

Matthew 15:24 KJB… “But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

John 4:22 KJB… “Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.”

After His resurrection He speaks through Paul.

1 Timothy 2:3-4 KJB… “For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”

Salvation is open to all men equally, without a nation of priests to intercede for them.

Christianity doesn’t need any more confusion, brother.

Amen. While it takes very little knowledge to be saved, it takes quite a bit of knowledge to dispel confusion which is exactly what I’m trying to do. This is why I post scripture to back my own words. My aim is to explain, but “religion” has done a very good job of confusing things already.

There is no purpose in believing Paul came to save the Gentiles thru his personal gospel for converting new Christians to the faith, other than confusing them on the reason God sent his Son to save humanity.

Paul does not save. Paul is not God. Paul however is the man to whom Christ explained salvation today. He does in fact have a distinct and separate gospel from that which was preached when Christ walked the earth.

Peter and Christ preached…

Matthew 10:7 KJB… “And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

That WAS the good news 2,000 years ago. What happened? Why didn’t “thy kingdom come”? It surely didn’t. Read the second half of Isaiah to see what that Kingdom looks like.

Paul preaches…

Romans 16:25-27 KJB… “Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.”

Paul does not tell us of a coming Kingdom because we are not “of the earth”. We are heavenly people.

Colossians 3:1-3 KJB… “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.”

I need to hit post. My browser has reloaded three times already… and I gotta go to work. Would you read a book by Justin Johnson if I sent you a copy? Would be my pleasure. That way you can sift carefully through it to see if “Paul” makes more sense. It’s hard trying to explain the whole of the Bible in one post… 😐 You can also read my own work on the subject at…

What mystery?

Hoping your day is a good one!

flash
flash
  grace country pastor
March 3, 2023 8:54 am

Thanks for the reply. I’d nearly forgot about this thread. The fact thta you see no Christians in other denominations ‘ e.g. Methodist or Catholic ‘ is you choose not to see. I see and know quite a few and a married to one.
You agree that one may not have even heard of Paul or the Old/New Testament and come to Christ thru trust and faith, yet you claim that one can only know they’re saved if they understand how
to rightly divide truth from truth , because ” truth for me today or truth for another tomorrow!:
Makes prefect sense , brother… Sounds like you’re saying , Listen to Paulian truth for salvation lest the truth of Jesus lead you astray.

“Teaching them to observe/obey all things whatsoever I have commanded you: ”
“Can everyone keep all these commandments? ”
Every follower of Christ can “observe or obey” these commandments and endeavor to keep them all.
Here’s a list and it’s not difficult to understand.
https://iblp.org/questions/what-are-commands-christ

Again, I reiterate, the separation of Jesus vs Paul’s gospel my be useful or a purely academic level, but has limited value to one seeking the salvation of Christ.

“Jesus in the flesh came for Israel as their promised King. ” So as an afterthought, God sends Paul to save the Gentiles, because the message of Christ just wasn’t enough. ..smh.

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures:

“‘The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
the Lord has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’[h]?

43 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44 Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.”[i]

45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew he was talking about them. 46 They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.

So why did the word, Jew, that never existed in ancient times suddenly become the official name for tghe ancient Israelites and Christians accepted this on the whos authority?
I already shown that there are no ethically pure Semites in the Levant, so who are these Jews thta you believe will inherit the earth, even though Jesus clearly says, they’ve been disinherited.

“The oldest English use of “Jew” on record, according to the Oxford English Dictionary (which is where one looks up this kind of thing) is from roughly 1275: “Pilates hym onswerede, am ich Gyv enne?” It is a translation taken from the New Testament: “Pilate answered, Am I a Jew?” (John 18:35).

The spelling of Gyv underwent some changes over time, one being that u and v became distinct in the late 14th century.

In the following centuries, several variations appear: Ive, Iewe, Iew and more. Eventually, in the 17th century, the letter J appeared in English as a way to distinguish between i pronounced as we do, which comes from Germanic sources (e.g., island) and those of French origin, pronounced like a soft G. Since “Jew” fell into this latter category, it began to be spelled with a J.”

flash
flash
  grace country pastor
March 3, 2023 8:57 am

Thanks, but I read that whole series and it makes perfect sense , nevertheless , it doesn’t negate the fact that the message of two Gospels is unnecessary for the salvation of one seeking the saving grace of Christ.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  flash
March 3, 2023 3:03 pm

What if someone is given the wrong gospel for today? If I tell you to endure to the end to be saved, are you saved?

Answer: no.

If I you to trust in the shed blood of Christ as payment for your sin, are you saved?

Answer: yes.

This is why everyone who is saved today rightly divides the Bible to some degree. I’ve just taken it to its logical conclusion.

I love Gods word. It’s by far the most fascinating thing in the world to me. It changed my life and the life of my children more that I can possibly describe here. It is my joy to study it and it is my joy and responsibility to share it. So I do… 😊

There is more than one gospel in the Bible and the correct one must be shared. The gospel of Abraham does not save today…

Galatians 3:8 KJB… “And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.”

Abrahams gospel (good news) was that in him should all be blessed.

Only the gospel (good news) given to Paul by Christ saves today.

Romans 2:16 KJB… “In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.”

That day is coming. Let’s be sure to share the right gospel with others!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  grace country pastor
March 2, 2023 11:41 pm

Pure delusion. And by the way, principalities and powers don’t need an apostrophe.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
February 24, 2023 3:49 pm

I disagree with Wolf, what is occurring now has been in process for more than 100 years. It did not start in 2020, although the frequency of incidences seem to have increased. In my opinion, this attitude of ungodliness started in the 1800s. The problem with the modern citizens is they are not educated as to the history of this country or the world.

I watched a movie last night on the Dove channel. The title was “The Adventures of Mickey Matson and the Copperhead Treasure”. This movie was pure evil trash. Why the Dove channel would air it escapes me, seeing as they are supposed to be a Christian network. The states that comprised the Confederate States of America were deeply steeped in Christianity. Their belief that people should be left alone unless they harm others was so ingrained they left behind their affiliation with the united States. Lincoln, an evil and non religious bastard, who is portrayed as being anti slave, wages war on people that want to be left alone. In essence, Lincoln’s so called virtue of wanting to free the slaves is an outright lie. His actions of waging war on people refusing to render plunder in the form of tariffs to the Federal government enslaved everyone. To portray Lincoln as anti-slavery when his intention was to enslave 100% of the people to the government is an act right in line with evil and all its allies. My issue with the movie, just like most movies from the propaganda mill, is the Confederacy is portrayed as being pure evil when evil was clearly being used by the united States government.

So no, what is happening now is merely evil making its face more open. Evil has controlled this country at least since 1860. There have been recognizable milestones regarding evil along the way. The day the USSC declared prayer can’t be done in public schools. Another is when the USSC legalized abortion, yet again the USSC legalizes homosexuality. Time magazine declared “God Is Dead” in one of its 1966 issues. No, the signs were all around us. Evil has been working hard for a long long time. Evil’s machinations just didn’t pop up in 2020. It is like all other things these days, with the advent of the internet, the instances of evil become more accessible to everyone.

BTW, I prefer the term “Hebrew-Christian” over Judeo-Christian. The Old Testament is about Hebrews. The New Testament is about the Son of the King of the Universe, Creator of all things. I think that true Hebrews should be proud to say they are such and not fall on the tired title of jew.

CCRider
CCRider
  None Ya Biz
February 24, 2023 3:59 pm

My mother, a devout Catholic believed life on earth is hell so evil has existed from the beginning. I agree about Lincoln. He was evil personified.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  CCRider
February 24, 2023 5:33 pm

The Chinese word for earth is Di Yu which translates to earth prisoner. My Mom was also a very devout Catholic. But she was not into the hellish part at all. It’s all where you put your focus is how I see it as I have experienced both heaven and hell on earth. Lincoln was very contradictory. You can also make the case he did some good/great things.

Ken31
Ken31
  AKJOHN
February 24, 2023 5:49 pm

The only good thing Lincoln ever did was die.

Machinist
Machinist
  Ken31
February 24, 2023 7:23 pm

He walked 5,000 mi. one way to return a book to the library and pay a $0.02 fine.
I wonder if the pennies bore his image?

A9racer
A9racer
  Machinist
February 24, 2023 8:40 pm

“He walked 5,000 mi. one way”
Hyperbole? Or sarcasm?

Machinist
Machinist
  A9racer
February 25, 2023 12:47 am

/s

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  None Ya Biz
February 24, 2023 4:18 pm

The New Testament is about Hebrews too.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 KJB… “Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord : for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord : for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”

Ezekiel 36:22-28 KJB… “Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God ; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.”

Hebrews 8:7-13 KJB… “For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.”

Israel/Judah
Israel/Judah
Israel/Judah

Over and over again. We are not Israel.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  grace country pastor
February 24, 2023 4:32 pm

I never said it wasn’t. I merely said the New Testament is about the Son of God, King of the Universe and Creator of all things. A vast difference.

Stucky
Stucky
  None Ya Biz
February 24, 2023 5:44 pm

“I disagree with Wolf, what is occurring now has been in process for more than 100 years.”

100 years?

“Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.”
——– 1 Peter 5:8

Seems to me that it’s been occurring for at least 2000+ years.

flash
flash
  Stucky
February 24, 2023 8:59 pm

Perhaps thru eternity and innumerable destroyed worlds ?

mark
mark
  flash
February 24, 2023 9:26 pm

There is a Gap there…without a doubt.

Russ
Russ
  Stucky
February 25, 2023 10:46 pm

yes..as evidenced here also:
2Th 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
I think the process has been going on since the whole Eve and the fruit and the serpent situation..

Klingon
Klingon
February 24, 2023 4:22 pm

“What is important is to dwell upon is the increasing evidence of the existence of a secret conspiracy, throughout the world for the destruction of organized government and letting loose of evil”. -Christian Science Monitor, 1920 Editorial

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  Klingon
February 24, 2023 4:45 pm

Evil did this: And said unto him (Samuel), Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.

The Hebrews, having lost their faith in the creator of all things, demanded a King.

I post from the Bible:

And the Lord said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people regarding all that they say to you, because they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me from being King over them. 8 Like all the deeds which they have done since the day that I brought them up from Egypt even to this day—in that they have abandoned Me and served other gods—so they are doing to you as well. 9 Now then, listen to their voice; however, you shall warn them strongly and tell them of the practice of the king who will reign over them.”

So Samuel spoke all the words of the Lord to the people who had asked him for a king. 11 And he said, “This will be the practice of the king who will reign over you: he will take your sons and put them in his chariots for himself and among his horsemen, and they will run before his chariots. 12 He will appoint for himself commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and some to do his plowing and to gather in his harvest, and to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will also take your daughters and use them as perfumers, cooks, and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields, your vineyards, and your olive groves, and give them to his servants. 15 And he will take a tenth of your seed and your vineyards and give it to his high officials and his servants. 16 He will also take your male servants and your female servants, and your best young men, and your donkeys, and [e]use them for his work. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his servants. 18 Then you will cry out on that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the Lord will not answer you on that day.”

And so my God, King of the Universe, Creator of all things and the Father of the Christ did warn about government of men. I, who believes in the Son of this God, is my King and I need no other. I may perish by the hand of man but I will be redeemed by his Son.

Amen

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
February 24, 2023 5:24 pm

Evil has always been out there as well as Gods love. It’s what we focus on that makes our reality. That’s why we must start each day with a prayer, contemplation, or meditation. The gift of the covenant with God is we must show our intent of being God’s instrument. Yes, it seems that evil is being glorified more than God’s love the last few years.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
February 24, 2023 6:40 pm

have-the-ancient-gods-returned ?

They never left. Most were chained awaiting Judgment beneath Antarctica after the Original Rebellion. Others roam free and largely undetected because of their ability to shape change…and they are immortal.

They’re tied into every major institution on the planet already. This only ends one way, and WE ain’t the ones to make it happen. But happen it will. Pucker up, Satan!

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 24, 2023 6:41 pm

Just read this in full at Lew Rockwell. Excellent essay. Lots of “Torah” Jews seem to be opening their hearts to Jesus these days.

Also, this is basically what Chris Knowles has been documenting for years:

https://secretsun.blogspot.com/?m=0

Marky
Marky
February 24, 2023 6:43 pm

We were not taught in Hebrew school what the Hebrew Bible really says

Dont feel bad like you missed out or anything. Institutional Christian churches dont teach much of what the bible actually says either.

Rev6
Rev6
February 24, 2023 6:46 pm

Ok one last time –

I can’t even begin to go into all that is wrong with Heiser or Cahn, so I won’t – the end is definitely near – so no surprise there is a lot of delusion out there – everyone wants an “Experience” sensationalism, understanding the “DARK” side – taking Bible verses out of context to support a huge gaggle of gods, little “g” up in Heaven fighting with each other – instead of bowing down to the ONE and only true GOD who has revealed Himself in his WORD – FAITH – BELIEVE

You only need John 3:16 – the entire gospel is there……..

But if you want a little more in-depth study

Here ya go – https://freegrace.in/chapter/salvation-and-discipleship-introduction/

flash
flash
  Rev6
February 24, 2023 8:57 pm

What you understand about ancient scripture compared to the late great Micheal Heiser wouldn’t fill a thimble.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  flash
February 24, 2023 9:12 pm

You tell him, Flash😊

flash
flash
  flash
February 24, 2023 9:19 pm

And the, Zionist shill, Israel first, creepy conman Cahn is to the lie what Michael Heiser was to truth.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  flash
February 24, 2023 10:12 pm

Yep. He should spell his name Con.

Rev6
Rev6
  flash
February 25, 2023 11:46 am

Flash – seems to me you are a double-minded man – Cahn is a liar and Heiser is the truth?? – and yet both Heiser and Cahn are promoted on the same platform (Skywatch TV) and basically touting the same UNBIBLICAL drivel. Sensationalism, twilight zone distraction loved by the millions of deceived followers of Skywatch TV. Let’s throw in Chuck Missler too while were at it, aerospace engineer and intellectual extraordinaire.

I’m gonna share one more place to look into their UFO, god’s – little g – twisted Bible understanding…………

https://herescope.blogspot.com/2021/07/the-ufos-nephilim.html

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Rev6
February 25, 2023 11:57 am

Flash can’t get past his hatred of Jews, and no one looks more Jewy than Jonathan Cahn. The man can’t change how he looks, but he can change his heart. Flash works from the assumption that this doesn’t occur. He is wrong.

flash
flash
  The Central Scrutinizer
February 25, 2023 3:26 pm

Nope, I have nothing against these people that call themselves Jews. What I am against are liars and murders who use fake victimhood to bastardize and attack the truth at every opportunity…and of course, virtue signaling, worthless shit-eating curs like yourself.
Who side you on this week, fag?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  The Central Scrutinizer
February 25, 2023 10:03 pm

jews don’t change their hearts. A leopard doesn’t change his spots. The scorpion’s nature is to sting. etc.

flash
flash
  Rev6
February 25, 2023 3:29 pm

Cahn is an Israel first, rapture-tard heretic. Heiser is not. Post junky soy-boy fags have no message for me. I listen to serious men of God only.

Rev6
Rev6
  flash
February 24, 2023 11:39 pm

There are 6 parts to the review of his work…….

Michael Heiser’s Gnostic Heresy (Part 1)

flash
flash
  Rev6
February 25, 2023 8:35 am

Guy spends his youngest years wallowing in drugs and debauchery, and then becomes a Christian who understands ancient scripture and it’s true interpretation better than a man who spent his entire youth and adulthood studying scripture though the understanding of reading it originally in the ancient language …smh .

” The next few years I indulged in the lust of the flesh, partying, getting high and drunk. I grew marijuana and sold it as well as pharmaceuticals that were stolen. I built a recording studio and was involved with the underground hip-hop culture producing the most abominable music.

When I was nineteen, my oldest brother was released from prison after six year of his ten year sentence. I spent the night talking with him at my mother’s house the day he got home. He borrowed me a book entitled The Signature of God that presented evidence that the Bible was truly the word of God. The evidence presented ranged from archaeology, science, fulfilled prophecies and many other things. I was convinced that the Bible was indeed the word of God so I began to read it. All I knew was that since God is God, whatever the Bible say is true so if I disagreed with it, I was wrong and needed to change my mind.”
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Only thing missing is his skullcap.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  flash
February 25, 2023 12:03 pm

All men are not created equal in abilities and gifts. Within my area of expertise I could be stoned off my ass and you STILL would not be my equal. I’m sure the inverse is also true. Your hatred of the seed of Abraham will be your undoing if you do not repent before the end.

And please spare me the “fake Jew” shit. You hate them all and you’ve made that quite clear.

Don’t make the mistake of thinking that your devotion makes you superior to anyone.

flash
flash
  The Central Scrutinizer
February 25, 2023 3:57 pm

Moral values, and living a Godly life have no relation to ones quality in terms of abilities or gifts. If you weren’t such a low IQ eeejit you would understand this.

BTW, shit for brains, Judah, whom some call Jews, fought with the Assyrians against Israel and when Israel, considered to be the blood kin of Abraham, were defeated and deported , Assyria then came for the Judeans, who later became the bitches of Babylon and also deported.

Now fact is , Judeans can be Israelites, but Israelites cannot be Judeans. So my question is, do you or anybody else living on God’s green earth know who these people are or where they went. There are no known DNA tests , and most of the globe has been categorized by ethnicity, that show ethnically/pure blood Semites, so who really are these people that call themselves Jews, often mistakenly labeled Hebrew.

One cannot hate an element of society, that one cannot identifies. I would be the utmost exercise in futility, akin to hating Martians now living on earth…assuming any do…so piss off , cuckles.

BL
BL
February 24, 2023 7:40 pm

Umm…… do ancient gods wear yarmulkes? Did they ever leave?

flash
flash
  BL
February 24, 2023 8:54 pm

109 times they cry out in pain as they strike.

B_MC
B_MC
February 24, 2023 7:55 pm

Sam Smith’s “Unholy”, bathed in lurid red light, with its Satanic imagery, takes the Grammys, and Billboard respectfully gets a quote from the Church of Satan while mocking the “pearl-clutching” of conservatives.

Wilburs Human
Wilburs Human
February 24, 2023 9:21 pm

Please allow me to introduce myself
I’m a man of wealth and taste
I’ve been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man’s soul and faith
I was ’round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
[Chorus]
Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name
But what’s puzzling you is the nature of my game

[Verse 2]
I stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the Czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank, held a general’s rank
When the Blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank

[Chorus]
Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name, oh yeah
But what’s puzzling you is the nature of my game, ah yeah

[Verse 3]
I watched with glee while your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades for the gods they made
I shouted out, “Who killed the Kennedys?”
Well, after all, it was you and me
Let me please introduce myself
I’m a man of wealth and taste
And I laid traps for troubadours
Who get killed before they reach Bombay

[Chorus]
Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name, oh yeah
But what’s puzzling you is the nature of my game, ah yeah

Oh yeah, get down heavy!

Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name, oh yeah
But what’s confusin’ you is just the nature of my game, mm yeah

[Verse 4]
Just as every cop is a criminal
And all the sinners saints
As heads is tails, just call me Lucifer
‘Cause I’m in need of some restraint
So if you meet me, have some courtesy
Have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse
Or I’ll lay your soul to waste, mm yeah

Ain’t nothing new boys and girls………….!!!

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Wilburs Human
February 25, 2023 12:19 am

To be in sympathy with something is to be for it. That’s what the masses don’t understand. They except evil and even worship it without the slightest awareness.

Unfinanceable
Unfinanceable
February 24, 2023 9:37 pm

Nothing new under the sun. Not even the “NEW ORDER OF THE AGES”. It’s hidden in plain sight and right on the money.

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Iska Waran
Iska Waran
February 24, 2023 10:22 pm

In Woody Allen’s “Deconstructing Harry”, his father is in hell, but doesn’t believe in heaven. “Jews don’t believe in heaven”. Of course, a lot of people these days think heaven is real and hell isn’t – like the heretical antipope. This clip has a few amusing parts. (nip alert)

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  Iska Waran
February 25, 2023 12:14 am

Great post. Funny as hell. But much truth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 25, 2023 8:15 am

it looks like it’s gone exponential in the past few years but it has been a process going on for a long time. it is not quite a rise of the ‘old gods’ so much as the rise of a new manifestation of demonic powers – it is the rise of The Machine. the not-alive, not-exactly-dead forces and powers which men thought they were so clever to conjure up to serve them and do their bidding. the industrial revolution was cheered and hailed as an emancipation from the limits of ‘nature’ but that was just a nice way of saying emancipation from the rule of god’s law… and it wasnt any more of an emancipation as it is for a kid to steal a bottle of liquor and the car keys and go on a drunken joyride… there’s a very bad end to it after a short wild ride.

The rebellion against god that really got sailing under its own power (literally) in the industrial age brought out of the woodwork the old lingering bits of the tired out, empty, decrepit occult hocuspocus that had of course gnawed at the sensibilities of desperate and weak-minded or weak-spirited men for centuries promising something for nothing (or much in exchange for an indelible degradation of one’s integrity). Until the Machine came along to actually pay out a dividend, those crusty creepy alchemists and wizards and whatnot were confied to the fringes as much by a moral and religious society, as they were by their own lack of ability to ever get around to cashing in on material results from their endless spells and nonsense. in its best form it might have inspired some genuinely scientific inquiry but the kind of alchemist who was actually doing chemistry experiemnts was probably not trying to invoke demonic spirits or some crap to do his bidding etc… anyway with the new MAchine suddenly there _was_ an a power almost conjured up out of magic and at the disposal of men who only had to do the right rituals to command it… and all the childish nonsensical desire for power and wealth and status by the easy path came out in a deluge flooding the psychology of the whole civilization which had originally stumbled into the trap of the Machine through diligence, discipline, rational thinking, and hard work.
It is always dangerous to meddle with powers greater than oneself. The Machine was such a power and it only got worse as we rolled through the 20th century and drew a bigger and bigger genie out of the bottle.
But even through all those years the Machine still needed men to be operating it at every point- it was still more alchemy than outright demonic wizardry… and then along came computers and electronics. THIS was the time that the machine-worshippers aka demon-worshippers really went apeshit and it is no coincidence at all that their plans seriously got underway after ww2 when the first computing machines emerged. This was the golem, the demon conjured out of nothingness, the seemingly sentient servant who actually obeyed incantations and spells!
and immediately the maniacal obsession became, integrating every last molecule and atom of the earth into some electronic computerized system for CONTROL because only then could their genie, their golem, their demon, give them utlimate power over everything on earth, by instrumenting it and wiring it all in, and they of course knew all the right incantations! (well, people serving them did, i doubt one ruling class scumbag out of a hundred could read or write any code at all)
this was really the stuff of raw fantasy, it was their apotheosis, it was the final materialization of the rebellion against god, when they finally took their place as masters of the universe and could throw god out into the void entirely!

now, in a crowd like that, you dont think those old spirits of darkness wouldnt find a fertile, receptive, even friendly, even eager reception? certainly they did! but they were also along for the ride- the ride of the truly first-class Rebellion Against God, also known as the Empire Of The Industrial Machine.. that the symbolism is all coming out now.. well, those who were riding the train of rebellion were big on the symbolism for a long time, but i ultimately think that the reason we see such an explosive proliferation recently is that these nimrods have even themselves confused the symptoms with the causes. they dont even know how their machine power even works anymore.. but the old demonic spirits , who were always charlatans selling a false dream, knew right where and how to slip in to their old profession. so now indeed the inmates are in charge of the asylum. While this means one more reason it can’t continue for much longer without falling apart, it also means theyre at the maximum extremes of pure insanity now.. a very freaky proposition since they do have so much damn power in their hands.

by the way while she’s on target over such asiatic demons like baal , moloch, etc, she knows comparatively little about e.g. the greek gods, who were NOT recycled versions of asiatic demons but rather were anthropomorphizations of memes and themes in _human_ society and they did NOT ever do things like child sacrifices or other such demonic freakish obscenity…

Bonnie Jean Tucker
Bonnie Jean Tucker
  Anonymous
February 27, 2023 6:40 pm

excellent post anonymous

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 25, 2023 3:02 pm

I admire the genius of her book, The Shock Doctrine. I saw Ms. Wolf at the Occupy Wall Street protests in New York and have maintained a guarded respect. Her recent outspokenness on The Genocide was a brave move. That guarded respect is now evaporating.

Are we expected to believe that we left our ‘spiritual door’ open and let those pesky ‘pagan demons’ gain control of us somehow? Demons whom then tricked us into taking coerced, deadly injections and outright murder…hmm, riiiight. I am surprised she isn’t also selling bridges. It’s even packaged-up in (Judeo) Christianity.

We are expected to believe that it’s OUR OWN fault, that we left the door to our soul open. Our fault that we are being genocide by the powerbrokers of the Jewish Mafia: media, pharma, government.

Instead of ‘divide and conquer’, the trick being employed here is- confuse, distract, deceive and create a strawman to deflect the blame away from the guilty and very (inhumane) human agents. Nice try Naomi Wolf.

An honest phrase in the essay is, “It may well be that these negative forces are highly complex, extraordinarily powerful, and stunningly well organized.” though it is misdirected towards nebulous spirits and not the very real, very human perpetrators. I guess we are left with only witch burning as a solution.

This narrative perpetuates the very evil that the writer pretends to bemoan; the evil of allowing ourselves to be misled. So very Jewish.

No gobblygook metaphysics needed to see REALITY. This essay is a sophisticated, self-serving tribal obfuscation of the very real and ugly FACTS. I ask: Why does Europe refuse to mention the guilty terrorist responsible for blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines?

Now I know why. Thanks Naomi. It because it be those pesky demons what did do that to us, that be what it is. It be them demons be responsible for all them doctors refusing to speak the truth about the autoimmune genocide too, I reckon. Damn demons!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 25, 2023 10:13 pm

Just another jew exercising their authority over the gullible goyim who believe in the abrahamic spiritual worldview. A bunch of evil bastards promoting satanism is the same thing. They are defining the dialectic.

Stop listening to jews.

Why
Why
February 26, 2023 2:38 pm

Neopaganism bears absolutely no relation to ancient nature pantheism (which guided farming and healing practices), it just makes it seem evil and dangerous. Neopagans are just a bunch of creepy perverts. I subscribe to the Toltec belief in the Parasite being the hidden force behind human destruction.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 2, 2023 10:40 pm

The ancient gods never left. They’ve always been here. They are the ones that created the world. They are the real government in control of the world. The bible calls them the Elohim. A plural word falsely translated by the church as God. Jahovah/Yaweh was simply one of them, a low ranking one at that. They go by other names according to different ancient civilizations. The Sumerians called them Annunaki. Since ancient times they have been responsible for what today are called UFO’s and other paranormal phenomena. An Italian Bible translator by the name of Mauro Biglino, who used to work for the Vatican, has written a lot on the subject. He also has a Youtube channel. Another one is Paul Wallis. Check them out.

An almighty, all knowing God of love would have never allowed any Satan to mess with his perfect creation.

Religion is just a tool to fool the masses so they can be easily controlled, manipulated and subjugated. This has been the history of the human race. We were created as a slave class. Everything else is pure delusion.