Arrest That Corpse!

Guest Post by Eric Peters

An interesting thing about government – about government workers – is that they can legally do things that would be criminal under the law if we were to do them.

This begs the question about the morality of what government does – unless one takes the position that legality and morality are synonymous. In which case it is hard to understand why the leaders of National Socialist Germany – always important spell out the socialism that was at the core of that murderous regime – were prosecuted after World War II, given that the crimes they were charged with weren’t criminal, as a matter of (German National Socialist) law.

Government morality seems to boil down to this: If you do not follow its laws, government workers will – ultimately – kill you.

A young man named Chase Allen, who was 25-years-old, is dead because of a chain of events that began when a government worker decided to enforce a law requiring his car (all cars) to be “registered” with the government. Chase did not believe he had a moral obligation to “register” his car with the government and so he didn’t, apparently.

You may think the government has the right to enforce such laws, though it is difficult to understand how “government” – which isn’t a living being – can have any rights at all. It certainly has power, of course – but then, so did the National Socialists in Germany.

But, leaving the issue of might making right – or rather, legality – aside for the moment, do you think government workers have the right to shoot people who violate that law?

That is what ended up happening to Chase Allen, who was killed minutes after he was “pulled over” by a government worker for driving an “unregistered” vehicle. A sequence of escalating events led to his being shot in the head and chest by multiple government workers, who then proceeded to throw the corpse to the pavement and cuff it.

“The driver became non-compliant with the initial (government worker),” according to a statement released subsequently.

Indeed.

And it turned out to be a capital offense.

But let’s rewind the events and ask some questions.

Who had Chase Allen harmed or even plausibly threatened with harm by driving an “unregistered” car? Is it not of a piece with tearing that tag off the mattress it says you’re not allowed to under penalty of law? There is no allegation that Allen’s car was not his property – i.e., that it was stolen. There is no allegation he was driving in a manner that could be construed as dangerous to others. He had not even committed what is styled a “moving violation,” such as not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign, for instance. Or “speeding” – the term used to make a punishable offense of driving any faster than an arbitrary velocity maximum decreed by the government, irrespective of any harm caused thereby.

Allen’s death in a hail of gunfire began because a government worker saw him driving an “unregistered” vehicle (his own) and for no other reason. The government worker was armed and so – apparently – was Allen. This is not a crime, either. But it did lead to the finale of the sequence of events that began with Allen being “pulled over” over a legality.

Allen proceeded to question the legality of his being “pulled over” – asserting that he did not consent to any contract with the government and so was not bound to obey the terms of the contract. This is derided by many people – including people who say they are all for “freedom,” to the extent the government allows it – as “sovereign citizen” stuff. This brings up the question of sovereignty, which gets at the root of legal vs. moral. The government claims it is sovereign, which means of course that none of us are. It claims we are obliged to obey the law, because the government has made it the law.

Well, so said the government of National Socialist Germany. So says every government. It is an interesting thing to say. It is another way of saying, you and I are bound to obey whatever the government of the land we happen to have been born in – or live in – says is the law.

Just because it says so.

If you do not agree, then you are an outlaw.

Never mind whether whatever you have done is immoral; that is immaterial as a matter of law. Pointing out to an arbiter of legality – i.e., the government official styled a “judge” – that your having driven 67 MPH rather than 55 MPH as decreed by the sign erected by the government harmed no one has no legal bearing on the question of whether you “broke the law,” as the styling puts it.

Allen made the mistake of questioning the morality, rather than obeying the law. This resulted in an escalation of force – but not by Chase Allen. His refusal to “comply” with orders to get out of his car – so as to be manacled by the government workers for driving an “unregistered” (with the government) car and declining to accept the government’s right to “pull him over” for this led to government workers threatening to smash the window of his car and drag him out of it. In the course of this attempt to enforce the law – by any means necessary – one of the government workers apparently observed a gun or a holster for a gun on Chase Allen’s hip. No allegation was made that Allen attempted to defend himself using his gun, which it was not against the law for him to possess.

Probably nothing fatal would have happened had the government workers not initiated a physical scuffle with Allen. Instead, one government worker cries “gun!” which result in multiple government guns being leveled at Allen, who is almost instantly shot to death at near point-blank range, after which the bullet-riddled corpse is dragged from the “unregistered” car, hurled to the ground and handcuffed.

If anyone other than government workers had done this, it would be regarded as both illegal and immoral. Yet it was “legal” for government workers to do it. But do you think it was moral?

That is the question we ought to be asking ourselves, which can also be put another way: Do you think it is moral for government workers to use whatever force is necessary to compel obedience to every law, no matter how petty or arbitrary, simply because it is “the law”?

If you think so, then perhaps you ought to question why the leaders of the government of National Socialist Germany were considered criminals for enforcing the laws of National Socialist Germany – and many of them hanged for it.

But that would beg some difficult questions about the government of this country; about government as such.

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35 Comments
TN Patriot
TN Patriot
March 16, 2023 7:23 pm

Most LEO demand obedience to every order they give you, whether legal or not. Failure to follow their orders can be punished by death, at their discretion.

Gary
Gary
  TN Patriot
March 16, 2023 7:47 pm

All based upon the illusion that they magically possess powers over other peoples’ lives, that some ‘document’ (opinion on paper backed by a gun) grants them these powers.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Gary
March 16, 2023 7:55 pm

And don’t forget qualified immunity. They are generally not held responsible for their actions.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  TN Patriot
March 17, 2023 5:49 am

We ALL have that discretion. Just sayin…

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
  TN Patriot
March 17, 2023 8:19 am

Murphy, NC, Sheriff’s dupties shot an unarmed man in his trailer, he had a camera inside that recorded the shooting. He was complying with LEO orders, but they shot him anyway. His wife stood behind him and was not shot.

Local media collaborated with LEO at first until the video came out.

Obbledy
Obbledy
March 16, 2023 7:38 pm

The Constitution does NOT EMPOWER any government employee to kill or subjugate you,quite the opposite….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Obbledy
March 16, 2023 10:28 pm

Bullshit, read the damn thing.

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Obbledy
March 17, 2023 2:48 pm

The constitution does not prevent a free person from contracting away their freedoms.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 16, 2023 7:43 pm

Obey and pay

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 16, 2023 8:33 pm

If just one of those trigger happy scumbags had spent some extra time talking with the kid, that situation would have ended far differently.

Perfect Stranger
Perfect Stranger
  Anonymous
March 17, 2023 8:13 am

Hard to say. I’m not standing up for the goon, but this author omitted the detail that the deceased shifted their hand hold of the phone perhaps to ready their hand for use of the weapon.

It doesn’t mean the guy should have been killed, but it is done. The stick part is, had the S.C. been black, then the cops would be charged and convicted of something. Since he wasn’t, the police will be found to have been justified in their lethal use of force.

These sovereign citizen types are fighting a battle they cannot win. Again, doesn’t mean that this guy should have been killed. But he is still dead.

Right or wrong, it was a pretty stupid battle to lose your life over – car registration.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Perfect Stranger
March 17, 2023 9:44 am

Compliance never wins against the fight against tyranny either. There are always the cowards that will say obey and have your day in court, where you will get justice. In the corrupted to the core self supporting system of legalize BS. yeah, not so much.

In the fight for freedom, there is no way a person can avoid the death that comes with fighting against a tyrannical satanic system. Personally, I won’t obey, they’ll mob me by force like in the past or outright have to shoot me. I really don’t care and death frightens me not.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Perfect Stranger
March 22, 2023 2:17 am

They’d when if we purged the loyalists devils advocating for the cops and politicians at our backs. We need to start rioting and killing when cops do this just like the blacks do only deadlier.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 16, 2023 8:42 pm

In this era, as in every era, there is no such thing as freedom. There is only power.
To lose one’s life over such a petty thing is tragic, but also monumentally stupid and a waste.
You don’t argue with sociopaths with guns!

Randall Bridges
Randall Bridges
  Anonymous
March 16, 2023 9:23 pm

,,, At least not for long, apparently!

Iggy
Iggy
March 16, 2023 9:43 pm

I knew quite a few cops on the Suffolk County police in Ny .Some were decent guys some were sociopathic just like most people. Better not to resist ,.most often if your not in deep shit the judge lets you out ror the next day or you might be released at the precinct for a small bond.

Let the world burn
Let the world burn
  Iggy
March 17, 2023 12:35 am

Try to challenge their authority and see how fast your life turn upside down.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Let the world burn
March 17, 2023 5:22 am

It all depends on the individuals you’re dealing with and whether or not you allow them to get the drop on you. I’ve seen cops lose interest real fast when they realize it is THEY who have stuck their neck in the noose…and it DOES happen. You’re not dealing with rocket surgeons here.

Assume everyone in life is operating at the top of their curve. Now ask yourself how much brains it takes to pin on a badge, strap on a gun and be a paid bully for The State.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  The Central Scrutinizer
March 22, 2023 2:22 am

Tin/ aluminum badges made in China. As unamerican as their socalled authority and socalled laws. The Redcoats arent coming,theyre here muthafuckaz.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 16, 2023 10:05 pm

Most young leos need to learn deescaletion tactics and use better judgment. They are kitted up like SF and honestly act like scared little rabbits most of the time. Most are punks.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
March 16, 2023 10:28 pm

Their training was deliberate.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
March 17, 2023 5:26 am

Who pushed you into a vat of redundancy?

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
March 17, 2023 5:25 am

The fastest way to produce that result is to implement Constitutional Carry for all citizens.

Most people are capable of being polite…when they’re forced to it.

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
March 17, 2023 12:00 am

Shoot my kid is right up there with shoot my dog…there will be blood.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 17, 2023 12:17 am

National Socialist Germany – always important spell out the socialism that was at the core of that murderous regime

Oh, look, more retarded crap from the car guy.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Anonymous
March 17, 2023 5:28 am

Oh look! Another fag who can’t handle the truth.

How fucking pedantic!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  The Central Scrutinizer
March 17, 2023 5:22 pm

Oh, look, another pathological lying kike who hates the truth.

How fucking expected!

Mongo Thrapwortle
Mongo Thrapwortle
  Anonymous
March 17, 2023 4:18 pm

The basic socioeconomic policies of 1930s national socialist Germany, was the model adopted by most post war western nations.

Let the world burn
Let the world burn
March 17, 2023 12:27 am

You have two choices when dealing with human dogs. Completely be their good dog or kill them before they kill you.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Let the world burn
March 17, 2023 5:42 am

Welcome to the jungle!

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The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
March 17, 2023 5:48 am

Legal vs. Moral.

A wonderful point which most people give no thought to, as if there is some “understood” equivalency.

The truth is that GOV fills the Venn intersection of Illegal AND Immoral.

GOD fills the Venn intersection of Legal AND Moral.

Crawfisher
Crawfisher
  The Central Scrutinizer
March 17, 2023 8:29 am

I do give this subject much thought. I worked for major company years ago, in order to understand the environment i was in. I realized they were legal, just not equally moral. Individual leaders had different views on legal and moral, there in lies the problem.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
March 17, 2023 1:32 pm

I’ve long been of the opinion that LEOs can only be taught so many responses to any given situation … and, given the seemingly low caliber (pun intended) of many of today’s newer LEOs that’s true in spades (pun intended) …

But these days that leads to excusing too much bad behavior by LEOs … and that’s a very bad thing and a very slippery slope … 

Maybe we need to go back to hiring for LEO positions — and all others, for that matter — based on merit and ability and not some sort of delirium like ‘equity’ or ‘diversity’ or other such dangerous nonsense that has poisoned the process.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Anthony Aaron
March 22, 2023 2:34 am

Fuck that, disband them instead, private security, and sherriff’s instead.

Mongo Thrapwortle
Mongo Thrapwortle
March 17, 2023 4:08 pm

Twenty four hour biometric surveillance and central bank digital currency fixes this. No registered vehicle? No gas for you. No more perps no more cops.