Doug Casey on the US Government Declaring War on Mexican Drug Cartels

By Doug Casey

Mexican Drug Cartels

International Man: There has been a recent push by some US politicians of the neocon variety to use the US military against Mexican drug cartels.

Senator Lindsay Graham has proposed designating them as “terrorist organizations.”

Representative Dan Crenshaw introduced an Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) to target drug cartels inside Mexico.

What’s your take on this?

Doug Casey: That’s just what the US needs: another war, and this one on the border.

The people who back the use of military force in Mexico can only be described as thoughtless warmongers with no grasp of either ethics or history. If the war against organizations like the Taliban in Afghanistan was a world-class disaster, would an invasion work out better in Mexico, which has three times the population of Afghanistan, is much richer and much better organized? And they’re right on the border, which is really asking for trouble.

The solution to the drug cartel problem is to legalize all drugs. The fact is that anybody who wants drugs today can get them easily, even if they’re in high-security prisons. From a practical point of view, making drugs illegal doesn’t work. All it does is greatly increase the price of the drugs in the US and create huge profit margins to import them. Even if you destroyed every cartel in Mexico, people that want drugs will still want them. As long as drugs are illegal, their prices will remain high and new cartels will arise.

But despite the relaxation of penalties on cannabis, it’s highly unlikely drugs will be legalized. The DEA, one of the most corrupt Federal agencies, is a permanent lobby to keep them illegal. And there’s way, way too much money in keeping them illegal.

The only solution is to learn a lesson from Prohibition in the 1930s. When they illegalized alcohol in the 1920s, it created the profits that allowed the Mafia to grow. It certainly didn’t cut down the amount of drinking; it just increased the amount of crime. Similarly, the insane War on Drugs is responsible for the success of the cartels.

They say fentanyl, an important medical drug, kills 50,000 to 100,000 Americans per year. That’s mostly because its quantity and quality are uncertain, a consequence of its illegality. But the real question is ethical: Does government have a right to “protect” people against themselves? My answer is: No. If people like it, it’s their body and their business. Prohibition of alcohol—which is also quite a dangerous drug—was costly, destructive, immoral, and stupid. Fentanyl, the current bete noir of busybodies, is no different.

If drugs were as easily available as aspirins through pharmacies, users would know what they were getting, and people who want them could get them at a cheap price in known doses.

Apart from recognizing that you can’t protect people from themselves, it’s important to look at the root of why many people get lost in drugs. The answer, I believe, is that they’re trying to hide from reality and blot it out. Why is that? It’s a subject for another conversation. But the irrationality and coercion caused by State intervention in private lives are part of the answer.

International Man: Mexican President Obrador has stated he will not allow the US government or military to enter Mexican territory.

It’s also well known that Mexican cartels have a significant presence inside the US.

Suppose the US government sends the military into action in Mexico anyways.

What do you think could happen?

Doug Casey: It certainly wouldn’t be the first time that the US has invaded Mexico.

In the 1840s, the US basically stole all the territory in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California, from Mexico. I know you shouldn’t say that—it sounds unpatriotic. But patriotism should be focused on American values, not necessarily on supporting the actions of politicians in Washington.

In the Marine Corp’s hymn, one of the lines is “From the Halls of Montezuma” because US forces were actually fighting in Mexico City.

It happened more recently when during the Mexican Revolution in the 1910s, Pancho Villa raided across the Rio Grande, and General Pershing’s troops crossed into Mexico to (unsuccessfully) pursue him.

There’s plenty of precedent for Americans invading Mexico, but perhaps the shoe is on the other foot now. 20 million or more Mexicans live in the US, mostly in the Southwest. Believe it or not, many of them talk about a Reconquista.

It’s uncertain what effect it will have on the US border if warmongers like the smarmy and foolish little Lindsey Graham succeed in fomenting an invasion of Mexico. It could turn into a counterinvasion, an active shooting war unnecessarily created to quash the Mexican drug business. Which—insofar as it’s even a real problem—is a US problem.

International Man: No matter what happens with the US military in Mexico, the situation at the border remains a mess.

What do you think should be done?

Doug Casey: The violence of the cartels is said to be one of the motivators for migration to the US. There appear to be at least one or two million people—nobody has the exact number—annually migrating from Mexico and other places into the US. Once they arrive, many become wards of the vast US welfare system. It’s a problem.

The solution, as with so many social ills, is strict observance of property rights. That implies the border should be defended. Why? The migrants usually cross the privately owned land of Americans; they have no right to trespass. Even when the land is owned by the federal or state government, they have no right to trespass. It’s a question of strictly enforcing property rights.

There’s a sign that often appears out west, “If you’re found here at night, you’ll be found here in the morning.” It’s a justified sentiment.

Entering the US, or, more importantly, onto anybody’s private property without permission, is a serious offense. Property rights are the basis of all rights.

It’s hard to know exactly, but I suspect a major attraction to migrants is that they know that once in the country, they’re basically guaranteed free food, medical care, schools, housing, and numerous other forms of welfare. That attracts the wrong kind of people. The immigrants of the 19th century were also penniless but got absolutely nothing when they came to the US. Now migrants get lots of freebies. Part of the answer is to eliminate any and all types of welfare both for Americans and immigrants-—as well as strict enforcement of property rights.

International Man: Renowned trends forecaster Gerald Celente has said, “When all else fails, they take you to war.”

Do you agree?

Doug Casey: Gerald is absolutely correct.

Looking at America’s war history, when the US fought Germany and Japan, those countries were transformed because they were totally flattened, devastated, and dispirited—that made it easy to reform them in the image that the US government wanted.

In the Korean War, which was really a war fought against China on Korean territory, the US dropped more bombs than in all of World War II. The country was totally flattened, and South Korea also transformed itself in the image that we wanted.

But Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and for that matter, Vietnam, were more on the order of sport wars against primitive countries. They were all embarrassing disasters.

What kind of war are we looking at with Mexico?

Will Washington flatten the country in order to change its government? I question whether the Mexicans will accept that. Or will Washington get involved in a protracted guerrilla war where drug gangs are designated as terrorists? Randolph Bourne was right when he said: “War is the health of the State.” Unfortunately, the average American seems to have lost the power of critical thinking. He robotically equates the health of the State with the health of America.

Either way, it’s a bad idea for America. But Washington isn’t America. The Deep State will, however, find somebody to fight. Unfortunately, it looks like Russia and China are next on the dance card, although they could certainly add Mexico to the naughty list while further bankrupting and corrupting the US.

International Man: The US government is becoming more desperate and reckless by the day.

How can the average person protect themselves and profit from this situation?

Doug Casey: The US government is increasingly designating any real or imagined enemy du jour— whether they’re Mexican drug cartels, the Russians, foreign separatist movements, or various American citizens—as terrorists. Once someone is termed a terrorist, the gloves are off, and it becomes possible to commit any kind of crime to combat him.

As the US destabilizes in many ways, Washington is finding its real danger lies within the country. What we’re looking at is a war of the US government against numerous and various groups, as well as dissident individual citizens. The FBI, CIA, DEA, and other praetorian agencies are being transformed into domestic secret police forces.

One way to protect yourself from this is to vacate the premises until it becomes safe to live in the US again.

Let me emphasize the importance of having a second residency or a second citizenship in case the US goes in the direction of so many countries in the past. And it’s not just the US. Many supposedly free Western countries are becoming quite repressive.

In fact, it’s dangerous being a US citizen in the US these days, at least if you speak out too loudly. It certainly concerns me personally. Even though I don’t believe it’s possible to change the course of events, I say what I do because it’s right, not because it’s smart.

That said, you should plan on the US government becoming much more virulent in the future. Washington, not Mexican cartels, is the real danger.

That’s absolutely the case for the next two years, while genuine Jacobins control the government. But perhaps beyond that. There’s no telling who’s going to be elected or what they’re going to do. Since we’re likely going to be in the middle of a huge financial, economic, political, social, and military crisis, anything is possible. Little of it is good.

The trend in motion is probably going to stay in motion.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
April 26, 2023 7:15 pm

The I.C, community is the drug cartels. Dope may get seized , but bankers never do.

THE UNDERGROUND EMPIRE , where crime and governments embrace – by James Mills

Mountainrat
Mountainrat
April 26, 2023 7:16 pm

I am old enough (58) that I can go out with a smile on my face, so fuck that running to another country BS.

Besides, where the hell are you going to run to? When the globalist are done with us, do you think Costa Rica, or wherever you decide to run to is going to escape the madness? I will not leave this to future generations without a hardy Fuck You! on the way out.

BL
BL
  Mountainrat
April 26, 2023 7:21 pm

Me too Rat. Too old to leave, I’ll die here with my boots on.

Mountainrat
Mountainrat
  BL
April 26, 2023 8:21 pm

Good on you bro, there are quite a few of us out here.

Before some Debbie downer comes on and says “why haven’t you acted yet?” let me just say that the time is not right yet and I acknowledge that with the skill and cunning of our enemies it may never come.

In that case when they come for me I will die an ineffective death but I will not submit.

VOWG
VOWG
  Mountainrat
April 27, 2023 7:20 am

Give it your best shot and take at least one of “them” with you. One for one and “they” lose.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  VOWG
April 27, 2023 3:35 pm

Don’t stand and fight unless you have to. Sneak up behind them so you don’t have to fight so hard.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  VOWG
April 27, 2023 3:36 pm

vowg take 2.

anonym
anonym
  Mountainrat
April 26, 2023 9:21 pm

I have a second citizenship. Does me no good: the other country has gone down far worse than the U.S. And if you go somewhere else, you become prey to be fleeced. The advice, apart from specific exceptional situations, is unwise.

Cannuck21
Cannuck21
  Mountainrat
April 26, 2023 10:47 pm

Yep agree. Casey keeps on pushing the idea to have a second country as a bolt hole. And of course my ‘team and I can help you find your new paradise…for a fee of course ‘

But the S,..O …B is careful not to mention a single country where you could realistically move to. . So how’s your Argentina development going Casey? Are the mugs who bought into your sales pitch happy? Inflation 106%. Interest rates at 81%.

Better to stay home and defend your own country supporting your family and neighbors.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Cannuck21
April 27, 2023 2:05 pm

Ever been to Argentina? Live in it for 19 years now with my son, dtr-in-law (Argentine) and three grandchildren lving 60 yards away on our little compound, which was in a natural state when I bought the property. If you have income in dollars and/or Euros, those stats you cite are a joke and work in many ways in your favor. Didn’t use Casey’s services either.

Quick examples: house call by physician’s asst and cortisone shot for U$D 1.25; four x-rays, total ten bucks and so on.

Stats don’t always tell the story. The village in which I live in many ways is what I remember of the USA in the 50s.

Ye Olden Toad
Ye Olden Toad
  Mountainrat
April 27, 2023 10:52 am

An unmarried son says he would leave the country.
Sticking with the grandkids here.
While I condemn any violence, Tom J. said, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Ye Olden Toad
April 27, 2023 8:43 pm

The tyrants need to lose far more of their blood that the Patriots lose … yes, I know that that should be obvious, but the past 3 years has shown it not to be so …

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 26, 2023 7:56 pm

What a load of nonsense. Kill the black market profit motive by legalization, and then reduce demand by fixing America. It’ll never happen. Too many fingers in the pie: int’l laundry banksters, CIA, private prison corps, guards’ unions, legislators, narcotics providers, and voting morons who think prohibition works.

goat
goat
  Anonymous
April 26, 2023 8:56 pm

You forgot the cops. That is what they threatened me over was protecting their drug war rice bowl when I was making to much sense about ending it. I don’t believe he said it was workable, only that that is the solution.
Another point he made is one that I may have been the first to make (and sometimes I wonder if he wasn’t reading that forum) is protecting the property on the border is also a good part of the solution, though at the time the Libertarian forum was all for open borders, until I pointed out the hypocrisy of being for privatizing the roads (something I’m dead set against), but being for trespassing on the border.
My solution to the border is very elegant, and doesn’t cost any revenue from the gov, in fact it creates revenue. Charge a silver dollar (or equivalent in real money, or set it to some other determined amount) at official crossings (coming and going), and then give authority (letters of marque as RP has suggested) to the “militia” to collect double the amount crossing anywhere else. As such they would get to keep half and turn the other half into whatever gov enacted such policy.
It is likely Mexico and other countries that immigrants were coming would more closely secure the borders to keep their hard assets from leaving.
Along with several other of my hard assets strategies (such as trade and voting, and land reform), the $ would slowly start to gravitate towards a hard currency, because people would demand payment or need to transform it to cross back and forth. Eventually, we would not be able to afford a welfare state based on real money, and people living of welfare might have to do an honest days work (or dishonest, and we all know the solution to that).
Pretty sure I was also the first one to suggest the states have the right to secure their border as much as the fed.
But you are certainly right as far as viability being a concern, though I disagree with the terms you expressed it, because it is most certainly not nonsense, we would have to have a radical change of will and likely hedge pruning to realize any such policies, though I must say I have certainly seen indications that some are being thoughtful about the subject.
I like others have stated will also remain here. That much I do not respect. In fact, anyone who does run instead of fighting should not be welcomed back easily. And they should lose their citizenship and possibly assets, just as the Tories did the first war for independence.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  goat
April 27, 2023 2:16 pm

Fighting? Are you also the first to begin armed fighting? If things were to come to that, then leaving would indeed be “running” and should have consequences. Otherwise, you’d be turning the country into a prison camp.

goat
goat
  Montefrío
April 27, 2023 11:30 pm

Why would it be a prison camp? Nobody is stopping them from leaving. Why should they leave then benefit from the sacrifices everybody else made so they weren’t inconvenienced? Live with the dice you roll. He is already talking about leaving before it all becomes to bad. I don’t see how that is any different then leaving when it is bad enough for armed conflict. Running is running, it is just a matter of degree what caused it.
In some ways running before it even gets bad is way worse then running when you are about to lose. You could almost certainly justify a tactical retreat in that case.
Here is a practical example, you and some friends agree to start a business, and one guys then decides that it is to much work. After your company is a success as making bank, the guy comes back and wants his cut when he has no skin in the game at all. What would you tell?
You would go tell him to take a flying fuck off a high building wouldn’t you?

anonym
anonym
April 26, 2023 9:26 pm

Legalization to kill the black market does work. I have been for it a long ways back. But looking at the addicted zombies all over the streets some places gives me pause. For many people, the illegality is like a fence that keeps them from falling off the edge of the world. That’s why they ignore the logic and would rather have the drug lords laughing all the way to the bank.

Ya can’t appeal to the majority without addressing that. And no, Holland is not a model to follow.

k31
k31
  anonym
April 27, 2023 9:53 am

Certainly, that’s a concern. But I remind myself fewer would have become addicted if not for the hooks created by the black market.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
April 26, 2023 11:08 pm

When the largest drug cartel on earth is the CIA, it certainly would be in their interest to go after the competition.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 27, 2023 7:13 am

As President King Dictator invading a sovereign nation (sometimes call starting a war) in no big thing.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 27, 2023 7:19 am

Invading a smaller sovereign nation (sometimes called starting and illegal war) is no big thing if you are a military power.
Doug Casey just wants to help out Mexico like Hitler wanted to help out Poland!

anonymous
anonymous
April 27, 2023 8:02 am

SSDD.
Just the ongoing, undeclared, clandestine US ‘war on drugs’ perpetually active in South America. Ongoing for decades already. Cartels are probably cutting into business too much and need to be ‘curbed’.

Matter of fact, is there anyone or any country that we do not mess with and war with to control?

goat
goat
  anonymous
April 27, 2023 8:12 am

Decades? More like half a century plus. That was the war when I was in (early 80s), but we don’t get the street cred for it like later wars.

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
April 27, 2023 10:22 am

You don’t have to invade Mexico to stop the drug trafficking…you just need to stop the CIA.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
April 27, 2023 2:48 pm

This has nothing to do with drug cartels. Fedgov had looked the other way for decades. This is because Mexico wants to leave the dollar plantation.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
April 27, 2023 8:41 pm

Declare war on mexico … they provide the pipeline that ends at the US border that they permit to be utilized by thousands and thousands of illegals every day … 24/7/365 … and, at the same time, you’ll hit the cartels, too …

mexico has sent US more than 65 million of their people that they don’t want in the past 55+ years … an invasion — a great replacement — without firing a shot …

Time to repel them … ‘by any means necessary’ …