RFK Jr. Interviews Col. Douglas Macgregor On Ukraine

Via Dr. Peter McCullough

Demonstrating once again his extraordinary quality as a free and heterodox thinker, presidential candidate RFK, Jr. interviews Colonel Douglas Macgregor about U.S. policy in Ukraine in the May 5 episode of his podcast. It would be hard to overstate just how much this interview is a departure from conventional MSM and U.S. government orthodoxy and practice. Colonel Macgregor is without question the most knowledgable and strident critic of the U.S. government’s (blundering and destructive) war policy.

This seems a good place to note that the U.S. government and its ideologically possessed advisors apparently have NO concept of war beyond that of a resentful and violent adolescent who wishes to destroy his adversaries without considering the ultimate practical consequences of doing so. Contrast the warlords in Washington with the Prussian general and military theorist, Carl von Clausewitz, whose book, On War, presents an incomparably sensible definition of war as an instrument of international politics. Because Chapter 24 is so often poorly translated, I’ll include the original German and my translation.

24. Der Krieg ist eine bloße Fortsetzung der Politik mit anderen Mitteln

So sehen wir also, daß der Krieg nicht bloß ein politischer Akt, sondern ein wahres politisches Instrument ist, eine Fortsetzung des politischen Verkehrs, ein Durchführen desselben mit anderen Mitteln. Was dem Kriege nun noch eigentümlich bleibt, bezieht sich bloß auf die eigentümliche Natur seiner Mittel. Daß die Richtungen und Absichten der Politik mit diesen Mitteln nicht in Widerspruch treten, das kann die Kriegskunst im allgemeinen und der Feldherr in jedem einzelnen Falle fordern, und dieser Anspruch ist wahrlich nicht gering; aber wie stark er auch in einzelnen Fällen auf die politischen Absichten zurückwirkt, so muß dies doch immer nur als eine Modifikation derselben gedacht werden, denn die politische Absicht ist der Zweck, der Krieg ist das Mittel, und niemals kann das Mittel ohne Zweck gedacht werden.

24. War is a mere continuation of politics by other means

So we see that war is not just a political act, but a true political instrument, a continuation of political intercourse, carrying out the same thing with other means. What remains peculiar to war relates only to the peculiar nature of its means. The art of war in general, and the commander in each particular case of war, can demand that the directions and intentions of politics do not contradict these means. This requirement is no small order, but no matter how strongly these means affect political intentions in individual cases, they must always only be understood as a modification of them. For political intention is the end; war is the means, and the means can never be thought of without an end.

The psychopathic clowns in Washington, known by the stupid moniker “Neocons,” have no concept of war beyond the initial act of Blitzkrieg—that is, a coordinated and massive assault on the enemy’s army and infrastructure without any realistic plan for a constructive political settlement.

As a notable example of this, consider U.S. military policy during the Korean War.

“Over a period of three years or so, we killed off — what — 20 percent of the population,” Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, told the Office of Air Force History in 1984. Dean Rusk, a supporter of the war and later secretary of state, said the United States bombed “everything that moved in North Korea, every brick standing on top of another.” After running low on urban targets, U.S. bombers destroyed hydroelectric and irrigation dams in the later stages of the war, flooding farmland and destroying crops.

What was the final, political achievement of killing 20% of the North Korean population? (Imagine if a foreign air force killed 20% of the U.S. civilian population, or 66 million people. I wonder how we would feel about that).

What constructive political outcome did U.S. military policy achieve in Vietnam, Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria?

Regarding Ukraine, Colonel Macgregor says at the outset of his interview with RFK Jr.

I think we need to establish up front that there has never really been a strategy.

Please listen the fascinating interview in full.

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13 Comments
CCRider
CCRider
May 7, 2023 8:41 am

I’ve now heard 4 hours of interviews with Bobby. I’ve seen two relatively minor flaws. He has yet to develop a coherent government spending policy and he bobbled a question on public education. He said schools need more ‘resources’ which we all know is bullshit. Obviously, with the stranglehold of the (evil) teacher’s union, it’s dangerous ground for him. Otherwise, he does great. I’m still on board.

This was a test for DoD head. From the mask-wearing loser Lloyd Austin to Col MacGregor? Oh, yeah.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
  CCRider
May 7, 2023 12:17 pm

Well ok CC…but don’t you reckon it’s still way early in the game?

CCRider
CCRider
  Two if by sea.
May 7, 2023 2:33 pm

Sure. My idea is that his positions will cause a stink in the establishment circles that unlike Ron Paul he can’t be ignored. Plus I like the show. Remember how much fun Dr. Paul’s debates were? Remember how he tore Giuliani a new one in the SC debate? Great fun.

Diogenes' Dung
Diogenes' Dung
  CCRider
May 7, 2023 12:52 pm

MacGregor’s interview for Secretary of Defense was concluded before Jr’s interview about Ukraine and I’d be surprised if he isn’t being considered for Secretary of State. There isn’t a better choice for mending fences with Russia.

It would be reassuring to see the Colonel as part of Junior’s cabinet, but I don’t see either of them getting close to the White House. Neocons ideology embraces any and every means to maintain control of our foreign policy , now clearly being steered toward a two-front war, each far from home. War, especially cyberwar, has a funny way of interrupting elections.

The China brokered Saudi-Iran, Sunni/Shia flirtation with friendship, after centuries of enmity, has Tel Aviv in a convulsive pucker. One can be sure they understand the calamity that ensues for jews if the Muslim world unites. Wouldn’t it be odd if the CIA, Mossad and MI6 ‘helped’ spark an exponentially larger 911 that forces NATO into the ring with Russia and trashes all Middle East oil production as ZioNazis take their last, best shot at Iran? Surely we wouldn’t feel the heat here in the USA.. Deagel who?

There’ll be huge irony when China sinks the 7th Fleet in Yokosuka Harbor, Japan, and all Pacific shipping grinds to a halt.

No more toasters or TVs for you, round eye!

CCRider
CCRider
  Diogenes' Dung
May 7, 2023 2:38 pm

Points taken. We’re in extraordinary times and that often produces upsets. But, of course, he’s a long shot.

overthecliff
overthecliff
May 7, 2023 1:32 pm

Kennedy has been a Democrat his whole life . He agrees with everything the uniparty is pushing except for vaccines. He is the good cop Democrat as opposed to the bad cop Democrat Biden. Careful my friends,He is no more our savior than Trump.

CCRider
CCRider
  overthecliff
May 7, 2023 2:39 pm

Not true. Hear any of his speeches. Anti-militarism, big pharma, corporatism, and pro-free enterprise. Check it out for yourself.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  CCRider
May 7, 2023 3:49 pm

Except that the state itself is inherently anti-free enterprise – or free anything.

CCRider
CCRider
  Anonymous
May 7, 2023 4:51 pm

That doesn’t mean you quit. You fight harder.

muh EBT be free
muh EBT be free
  Anonymous
May 7, 2023 5:32 pm

this Boston nigga be free to fuck white wimmins all day, muthafukuh

Defector
Defector
  CCRider
May 8, 2023 1:12 am

What about him on climate change deniers?

morongobill
morongobill
May 7, 2023 4:14 pm

My opinion is the firing squad or noose is the cure for our neocon problem.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  morongobill
May 7, 2023 8:36 pm

But … but … Hitler got into trouble for harming them … it’s been in all of the shrines and museums and books and the hundred or more Hollywood movies …