In Memoriam, 2023

This article was first posted on Straight Line Logic on Memorial Day, 2015. It will be published every Memorial Day for as long as SLL continues as a website.

You don’t fight for your country, you fight for your government.

The Golden Pinnacle, by Robert Gore

On Memorial Day, America remembers and honors those who died while serving in the military. It is altogether fitting and proper to ask: for what did they die? Do the rationales offered by the military and government officials who decide when and how the US will go to war, and embraced by the public, particularly those who lose loved ones, stand up to scrutiny and analysis? Some will recoil, claiming it inappropriate on a day devoted to honoring the dead. However, it is because war is a matter of life and death, for members of the military and inevitably civilians, that its putative justifications be subject to the strictest tests of truth and the most probing of analyses.

Millions have marched off to war believing they were defending the US, which implies the US was under attack. Yet, setting aside for a moment Pearl Harbor and 9/11, US territory hasn’t been invaded by a foreign power since the Mexican-American War (arguably—Mexico claimed the territory it “invaded” was part of Mexico), or, if the Confederacy is considered a foreign power, the Civil War. That war ended a century-and-a-half ago, yet every US military involvement since has been justified as a defense of the US. That has gradually attenuated, in a little noted slide, to a defense of US “interests,” which is something far different.

Only one of those involvements could, arguably, have been said to have forestalled not an invasion, but a possible threat of invasion: World War II. Watching newsreel graphics of Germany’s drives across Europe, Northern Africa, and the USSR, and Japan’s across Asia and the Pacific, it was perhaps understandable that Americans believed the Axis powers would eventually come for them, especially after Pearl Harbor. However, that was a one-off attack by the Japanese to disable the US’s Pacific Fleet. To launch an invasion of the US, Japan, a smaller, less populated nation whose economy depended on imports of vital raw materials, including oil, would have had to cross the Pacific and fight the US, and undoubtedly Canada, on their home territories. The Pearl Harbor attack, provoking America’s entry into the war, proved a strategic blunder for the Japanese. An invasion would have been ludicrous. Similarly, Germany, up to its eyeballs in a two-front war, couldn’t conquer Russian winters or Great Britain across the English Channel. How was it supposed to either cross the Atlantic, or the USSR and hostile guerrillas, then the Pacific, and attack the US? That, too, would have been ludicrous.

The 9/11 attack was also a one-off. A majority of the attackers came not from a US enemy but rather a supposed ally, Saudi Arabia. They received funding and other support from people in that country and perhaps its government. A conventional war against a “state sponsor of terrorism” might have required war against Saudi Arabia; it is still not clear how involved its government was. That option was never considered. Rather, the Bush administration performed metaphysical gymnastics and launched the first war in history against a tactic: terrorism. Although the jihadists who perpetrated 9/11 were self-evidently not the vanguard of an invasion, the terrorism they employed was deemed a threat to US interests in the Middle East, and to life and property in the US. However, none of our subsequent involvements in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt, and Yemen have been necessary to maintain US citizens’ freedoms, the nation’s territorial integrity, or its lives and property.

There are undoubtedly many epitaphs on tombstones in this country to the effect: Here lies the deceased, who died defending America, and not one that reads: Here lies the deceased, who died defending American interests. However, the latter is in most cases more accurate than the former. Who decides the interests for which members of America’s military will die? Those considering entering the military today must look beyond the slogans, contemplate the risks of being killed, wounded, dismembered, paralyzed, or psychologically traumatized, and ask themselves: why and for whom are these risks being borne? You don’t fight for your country, you fight for your government. Is it worth risking one’s life for the US government?

In 1821, John Quincy Adams said America had not gone “abroad in search of monsters to destroy,” and while we wished those seeking liberty well, theirs was not our fight (see “In Search of Monsters,” SLL, 4/11/15). Since then, America has searched for monsters, found, and in some cases, destroyed them. However, as the poison of power has worked its evil on the minds and souls of those who possess it, the monsters have become more ethereal, apparitions conjured like creatures in the closet by children when they go to bed. The war on terrorism creates more terrorists, the monsters of choice since 9/11. The government still pays occasional lip service to “democratic values” and “civil liberties,” but allies itself with regimes which have no more fealty to those values and liberties than the “tyrants” the government opposes. “Defending America” and “Promoting Our Way of Life” have become transparent pretexts for American power and domination unbounded. As Adams so presciently warned, the search for monsters has turned the government itself into a monster, the biggest threat to Americans’ “inextinguishable rights of human nature.”

Those who have fought and died to defend America and its freedoms are noble beyond measure. Those who pay self-serving tribute to their valor, but make war and expend lives as means to corrupt ends are evil beyond redemption. Honor the former; expose and oppose the latter.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
May 29, 2023 9:15 am

Expose Them. Everywhere.

“We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence; on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which as conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly-knit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.” | John F Kennedy

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 12:40 pm

“‘Tis not yours (Goy),
to question why,
‘Tis simply yours,
to do, or die…”

Never forget (((who))) starts the Wars the US is involved in…

Ever!

Every.
Single.
Time…

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 29, 2023 9:16 am

“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” — David Rockefeller

This is not what they died for.

B_MC
B_MC
May 29, 2023 9:47 am

Is it worth risking one’s life for the US government?

Or your child’s?….

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anon a moos
anon a moos
  B_MC
May 29, 2023 10:57 am

Heart breaking if this was done on the sly.

If it were me, I’d punch the shit out of the mother for allowing it and probably encouraging this.

If this guy was aware of this ‘change’ and agreed to it then I feel very sorry for the kid and hope this douchebag dad gets everything he deserves, in spades.

TCS
TCS
May 29, 2023 9:48 am

OK. Where’s the “911 was an inside job” crowd this AM?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TCS
May 29, 2023 10:52 am

Pull your head out of your ass for minute.

KJ
KJ
  TCS
May 29, 2023 12:08 pm

Right here, dipshit.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  TCS
May 29, 2023 12:32 pm

3rd time I’ve posted this. First 2 disappeared into the ethernet.

9/11: A Conspiracy Theory

Tex
Tex
  TCS
May 29, 2023 1:10 pm

Never Forget , Mr. Trump originally reported he saw dancing State of Israelis on a bridge before he flipped and said it was Muslims.

ursel doran
ursel doran
May 29, 2023 10:34 am

The Covid Pandemic Demonstrates the Intentional Use of Fear to Destroy Liberty |

The Covid Pandemic Demonstrates the Intentional Use of Fear to Destroy Liberty

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
May 29, 2023 11:01 am

Thanks, Robert. A friend’s son was accepted into the Air Force Academy. His dad (the kids grandpa), a retired Marine, tried to talk him out of going into the military at all saying today’s military is nothing like yesteryear’s military. But they are soldiering on, pun intended.

For newbies who have never read Fleabagg’s essay, My War, here it is.

My War, by Fleabaggs

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Robert Gore
May 29, 2023 12:26 pm

Wonder why the original won’t show the pics?

ursel doran
ursel doran
May 29, 2023 11:02 am

EXCELLENT work Sir, as usual.
Further to: https://tldavis.substack.com/p/know-thy-enemy?

Booger
Booger
May 29, 2023 11:04 am

The most sinister organization of them all is counting on perpetual war. Death is their Business and Business is Booming.

The MIC thanks you for your sacrifice to your Country.

“War Pigs”

Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death’s construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to Mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds…
Oh Lord yeah

Booger
Booger
  Booger
May 29, 2023 11:22 am

Graham commented on Twitter, saying that “to know that my commitment to Ukraine has drawn the ire of Putin’s regime brings me immense joy.”

“I will continue to stand with and for Ukraine’s freedom until every Russian soldier is expelled from Ukrainian territory,” he tweeted. “I will wear the arrest warrant issued by Putin’s corrupt and immoral government as a Badge of Honor.

Graham – War Pig
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor

Tex
Tex
  Booger
May 29, 2023 7:03 pm

Someone said he was on the same stage as Trump in SC recently ? I read the papers, or use to.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 29, 2023 11:15 am

A friend said there was one day that he was sure that was it. Thought , no way he’d survive this.

1965, near Chu Phong, Ia Drang Valley, Vietnam

Click picture / link for more photos . many in color.

NA008605

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 11:32 am

Rolling Thunder began as a demonstration to demand return of POW ‘s
Some 300 still are held.

Rolling Thunder on the mall here in Washington. Hundreds of patriotic Americans honoring our nation’s fallen heroes. No Democrats here, thankfully!

Tex
Tex
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 1:18 pm

Tears…

A cousin some 12 years older than I used to take me fishing. He was drafted in ’65 and eventually assigned as a tunnel rat. I recall him writing my Grandfather asking for a particular hunting knife a local hardware sold. Granddad bought the knife and sent it to the cousin. The rest of the story is just too sad. Cousin returned but never the same.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Tex
May 29, 2023 1:31 pm

It is important to recognize ALL THE VETS.

Too often it is too easy to focus on WW ll because we won.

Those of Korea / Vietnam deserve no less.

ryan
ryan
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 1:38 pm

Voices of history is a great channel. He interviews veterans from all wars. Many of the interviews are quite compelling.
https://www.youtube.com/@VoicesofHistory

Boarwild
Boarwild
  ryan
May 29, 2023 8:06 pm

Another good one here: https://youtube.com/@ashotastory1365

Tex
Tex
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 6:48 pm

Voluntary military service is ongoing for quite a number of years. People may be subject to “fate”, I prefer God’s will.

The men and women that have come back from Iraq and Afghanistan tears me up when I see them missing limbs, legs blown off…sorry. 🥲 I’m a grown man.

Confessions at TBP. Don’t forget if you are a Amazon purchaser, the site gets a small bone on your purchase. Yeah, yeah , yeah. It’s what it is so just don’t buy Amazon if you object.

Warren
Warren
  Tex
May 29, 2023 8:52 pm

One of the older guys from the neighborhood, went to Vietnam, he was a gentle person, and so he declared to be a conscientious objector, he wss made a corpsman,
He was never the same after he came back, and drank himself to death before he was 50.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Warren
May 29, 2023 10:12 pm

The real body count is much higher than anyone knows.
PTSD , stress , agent orange ……. it all adds up

Tex
Tex
  Warren
May 29, 2023 10:37 pm

Well, did not want to tell the rest of the story. Hey, not many read …no they do.

My cousin became a pyromaniac when he returned from Vietnam. I’m thankful to God I was not chosen and pray for those that were. It was a bad deal for sure.

Warren
Warren
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 9:29 pm

I had a older friend, he was in his 70s in the early oughts, who was with Hal Moore in the Ia Drang Valley. I didn’t know about that until the We were Soldiers movie came out, I was going to see it and I asked him if he wanted to go see it.
He told me he was there for the original version, and explained that he had been one of those soldiers.

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
May 29, 2023 11:59 am

“…[T]he powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less
than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the
political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. this system
was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in
concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The
apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle,
Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which
were themselves private corporations….
“It must not be felt that these heads of the world’s chief central banks were themselves
substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians
and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised
them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial
powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers (also called
‘international’ or ‘merchant’ bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes in their own
unincorporated private banks. These formed a system of international cooperation and
national dominance which was more private, more powerful, and more secret than that of
their agents in the central banks. this dominance of investment bankers was based on
their control over the flows of credit and investment funds in their own countries and
throughout the world. They could dominate the financial and industrial systems of their
own countries by their influence over the flow of current funds though bank loans, the
discount rate, and the re-discounting of commercial debts; they could dominate
governments by their own control over current government loans and the play of the
international exchanges. Almost all of this power was exercised by the personal influence
and prestige of men who had demonstrated their ability in the past to bring off successful
financial coupes, to keep their word, to remain cool in a crisis, and to share their winning
opportunities with their associates.”

KJ
KJ
May 29, 2023 12:12 pm

Robert Gore never ceases to amaze me. He STILL attributes 9/11 to “Saudi terrorists” and believes Alex Jones deserved to be sued for $2 trillion for “defamation” for questioning Sandy Hook.

His head so far up his ass it’s no wonder he can’t see reality clearly.

Crush Limbraw
Crush Limbraw
May 29, 2023 12:38 pm

Who wants war?

War Is A Racket – “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
― Smedley D. Butler, War is a Racket: The Antiwar Classic by America’s Most Decorated Soldier
Read it all: https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2019/09/who-wants-war.html?m=0

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Crush Limbraw
May 30, 2023 12:38 am

Bringing Them Democracy™ while bringing home the lucre.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Aunt Acid
June 1, 2023 1:39 am

Bringing the invaded country (((Democracy))) while stealing the invaded nations resources and money.

FIFY…

some idiot
some idiot
May 29, 2023 1:48 pm

This country should only go to war in self defense. If it’s not self defense you are not fighting for your country you are fighting for a bank. What was the purpose of the Iraq or Afghanistan wars? I dare anyone to give me an explanation that makes sense. What was accomplished there?

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  some idiot
May 30, 2023 12:41 am

We made lots of enemies and spent trillions of dollars so it was all worth it.

Plus Unkle Sam has Pentagram outlets all around the planet because they hate us for our “freedoms”. Hahahahahahahah…deep breath…hahahahahah….

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 29, 2023 2:50 pm

Anyone else notice fewer war movies playing on this Memorial Day ?

Not that the blob would try to erase our history.

some idiot
some idiot
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 3:08 pm

Noticed. But the tv will be wall to wall black movies on Juneteenth.

Warren
Warren
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 8:56 pm

Watch the movie Memorial Day, it’s worth your time.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
May 29, 2023 3:08 pm

Like I’ve said for several decades … the best way we can honor our War Dead is to make sure that there are no more of them — ever — unless and until our own Nation and lands are attacked … i.e., the 50 States and D.C. (questionable there) …

We must stop all ‘agenda’ wars — whether on behalf of the MIC or ‘our friend and ally’ or any other nonsense … 

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anthony Aaron
May 29, 2023 5:15 pm

We are under attack. The “domestic” enemies .

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Anonymous
May 30, 2023 12:43 am

With “international” or if one prefers “cosmopolitan” enemies in cahoots.

Jim
Jim
May 29, 2023 5:26 pm

Aaaand,…. since before WW2 and the wars beyond, we eventually found out something different than what the official narratives tell us.

So many good people have given their lives, but to what end?

Nonetheless, I hope all of us went to a Memorial Day ceremony today.

The pain and loss are still there for those who went through that earthly hell and persevered.

jayrockstone
jayrockstone
May 29, 2023 6:01 pm

When asked what they were fighting for, medal of honor winners said it was to save and protect their comrades in arms. Their memory is poisoned by our current “leadership”. I am disgusted by the sub human scum that continue to actively destroy the finest military the world had ever seen. Unfortunately, that was years ago. The destruction started way before they went woke. We don’t have the best military in the world; we have the most expensive military in the world.

Boarwild
Boarwild
  jayrockstone
May 29, 2023 8:08 pm

Think the ball really got rolling during the Clinton admin.

luke2236
luke2236
May 29, 2023 6:18 pm

The japanese were snookered into Pearl Harbour by (((fdr))) to get America into the war to save the (((soviets))) and kill Germany/Germans.. 9/11 was an inside job, planned and executed by the (((mossad))) with the help and full knowledge of the cia, white house etc.
The last ‘just war’ was the Southern defence of it’s homeland in 1861. The rest have all been in service to the interests of the jew. Period. The next one will be like the earlier instances too.

Boarwild
Boarwild
  luke2236
May 29, 2023 8:27 pm

Just MHO for being a lifelong student of Military History, but since the German Army of 1940 is largely credited is being the most fearsome fighting force ever in recorded history, crushing France (then the largest army in Europe) in 6wks, throwing the British out of Europe 4x ( Dunkirk, Norway, Greece, & Dieppe), inflicting 3.5 million casualties on the Red Army in roughly as many months, & standing @ the virtual gates of Asia in 1942 (Astrakhan on the Sea of Azov), all this added up to a severe summation.

The Allies were thoroughly humiliated by them & the Bohemian Corporal. Again, just my MHO but me thinks a lot went into crushing the German/Prussian spirit in those matters Military so that they’d be sure to never rise again @ least militarily. Probably why they throw the Holocaust in Germany’s face every five minutes.

A good German friend describes his home country now as a nation of “eunuchs”. He’s a veteran of the BundesMarine & states that any type of aggressive spirit and/or behavior is considered “extreme” & you get labeled as a de facto Neo-Nazi.

Guess that’s what happens when all your alpha males wind up 6ft under in two world wars.

Tex
Tex
May 29, 2023 6:58 pm

Just remember if one has trees and a .32 or .36 caliber “squirrel gun”, black powder, what the caliber may be, one can still fire from behind a tree.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 29, 2023 7:44 pm

Greatest movie line I ever heard- from “The Postman” When Kevin Costner says, “Wouldn’t it be great if wars could be fought by the A**holes who start them”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
May 29, 2023 10:18 pm

THE POSTMAN – was a a great movie everyone should see. Saw it in theatre when it came out and all liked it.

It was given “poor” reviews by the controlled press, because it celebrated the unstoppable American Spirit and the idea of UNITY !

They can’t allow that.

RIDE POSTMAN !!!!!!!

YOU HEAR ME ? — I SAID RIDE !!

flash
flash
May 29, 2023 8:29 pm

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anon a moos
anon a moos
  flash
May 29, 2023 9:11 pm

and Jimmy, when you are old enough to die, then you too can enlist. Carry on that proud tradition.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anon a moos
May 29, 2023 10:21 pm

I worked with a young about to be boot. Knowing there was no way to talk him out of it , I just tried to tell him keep LOW and dont get buggered by ‘ The Green Weenie ‘

flash
flash
May 29, 2023 8:33 pm
Tex
Tex
May 29, 2023 8:46 pm

Some of the “old timers” may want to loosen up a bit. Granted WE are the only ones that will fight. That’s just the way of things, have YOU older peeps lived your life? No, you have some life to live.

I like this Canned Heat tune. It’s old stuff. “every boy girl woman and a man”.

Warren
Warren
May 29, 2023 9:20 pm

My mother is a gold star widow, and she had a MIA brother in the European Theatre, and a cousin, a B17 pilot, who is buried in a cemetery in Belgium.
Memorial Day isn’t just about hot dogs and brats, not to her.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Warren
June 1, 2023 1:46 am

And your mother should turn her sorrow into fury….
Against the Khazarian Mafia, who has caused this terrible state for herself and you.

And you have my sympathies and sorrows on your families losses.
I know this pain more intimately than most, as I was very nearly one of those losses myself.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 29, 2023 10:31 pm