The Best Shotgun Shell Types for Home Defense & Hunting

The Best Shotgun Shell Types for Home Defense & Hunting

The shotgun has been around for centuries and will continue to thrive because of its versatility. The best shotgun shell types of varying gauges are used for self-defense and hunting purposes.

Below you’ll find many recommendations based on personal experience, velocity, stopping power, and price.

Let’s get started!

Best 12 Gauge Shotgun Ammo Types

  1. YAF 1-1/5 ounce 00 Buckshot – Best 12ga Home Defense Shells
  2. Winchester Long Beard XR #6 – Best 12ga Turkey Load
  3. Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics Target Loads – Best 12ga Upland and Target Shells
  4. Winchester Super-X Xpert Hi-Velocity Steel – Best 12ga Shotshells for Duck Hunting
  5. Federal one-ounce rifled slug – Best 12ga Deer Hunting Shells

The 12ga shotgun is one of the most popular guns for home defense and hunting.

It’s an excellent home defense weapon because over-penetration is less of a concern than it is with a rifle, you don’t have to be overly accurate in a high-pressure situation, and it has a high ammo capacity that’s easy to reload.

Most hunters use the 12 gauge for hunting game birds and deer, using differing shot sizes depending on the intended species.

Let’s get to announcing the best 12ga shotgun shell types and uses.

Home Defense

The sound of racking a shotgun should be enough to send shivers down the spine of any intruder, but when it’s not, you need ammunition you can trust with your and your family’s lives.

The general consensus is that 00 Buckshot is the best shotgun ammo for home defense purposes. While I agree there are a few drawbacks to using it that are worth mentioning.

The first is that it has more recoil than birdshot. However, it doesn’t have as much kick as a slug.

The second drawback is the reduced amount of pellets in the shell. Because the pellets or BBs are larger than birdshot, the shell can hold fewer. So you’ll need to be relatively accurate, which you should be anyways.

The last downside I’ll discuss is the expense. Buckshot is not cheap ammo; even if you buy it in bulk, it’s still more expensive than birdshot.

So why is buckshot better for home defense?

The increased recoil comes from packing more of a punch. This means you’ll be able to take out a threat much easier.

Unlike a slug, which is only one projectile, buckshot has many pellets, which increases your chances of hitting the target.

YAF 1-1/5 ounce 00 Buckshot

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,378 fps
  • Projectile: 00 Buck
  • Weight: 1-1/5 oz

Pros

  • High muzzle velocity
  • Inexpensive

Cons

  • Heavy recoil

Why We Chose It

The best 00 buckshot ammo based on muzzle velocity is YAF 1-1/5 ounce 00 Buckshot ammunition. Coming in at 1,378 FPS muzzle velocity, it’s one of the faster factory 00 buck loads on the market.

It’s also relatively inexpensive when bought in bulk, costing around $0.70 per round.

Honorable Mention

Another viable option is Winchester 00 Buckshot. It tops out around 1,325 FPS muzzle velocity and is almost double the price per round, even when purchasing it in bulk.

Turkey

In recent years TSS has been all the craze amongst turkey hunters. Despite being much more expensive than traditional copper-plated pellets, it offers hunters a better opportunity at an ethical kill on a turkey.

However, the high price is still challenging for many turkey hunters to swallow despite the benefits it shows to have on paper.

Winchester Long Beard XR #6

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,200 fps
  • Projectile: #6 Shot Lead
  • Weight: 1-3/4 oz

Pros

  • A bargain compared to TSS rounds.
  • More than capable of ethically harvesting turkeys out to 50 yards.

Cons

  • Doesn’t have the range of TSS shotshells.

Why We Chose It

I’ve harvested a few turkeys using Winchester Long Beard XR #6, as this load has a decent muzzle velocity of 1,200 FPS. However, it’s less dense than Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS, which means it won’t be as capable of bringing down a Tom at 50 yards or more, but you won’t be paying the high price of TSS ammo either.

Check out our Winchester 12 Gauge ammo page for more options.

Upland Game

Upland game birds don’t require as dense of pellets to bring one down ethically. They’re much smaller birds than turkeys and generally have thin skin.

This is why small shot sizes like #7 or #8 are the go-to sizes for most upland hunters. This also means they kick less than other shotgun shell types.

Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics Target Loads

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,350 fps
  • Projectile: #8 Shot
  • Weight: 7/8 oz

Pros

  • Inexpensive
  • Fast

Cons

  • Designed for clay shooting, not specifically hunting

Why We Chose It

Upland hunting shells are typically the least expensive shotgun shell because they’re the most common since they’re also used for target shooting.

Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics Target Loads help give the hunter the edge on quick upland game birds with increased velocity.

A box of shotgun shells with 1,145 FPS muzzle velocity, like the Winchester SuperTarget loads, make great clay shooting rounds and can be confidently added to an upland hunter’s shell bag.

Waterfowl

Due to federal regulations, waterfowl hunting requires a non-toxic shot, usually steel, tungsten, or bismuth.

Steel is not as dense as tungsten or bismuth so you will get better penetration with tungsten/bismuth shotshells. However, you’ll also pay a lot more for them.

Winchester Super-X Xpert Hi-Velocity Steel

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,400 fps
  • Projectile: #3 Steel Shot
  • Weight: 1-1/8 oz

Pros

  • Less expensive than other non-toxic loads
  • An excellent compromise between price and maximum effective range

Cons

  • Doesn’t hit as hard as tungsten or bismuth

Why We Chose It

For the value, it’s tough to beat Winchester Super-X Xpert Hi-Velocity Waterfowl Steel Shotshells. They offer plenty of muzzle velocity of 1,625 FPS and come in multiple shot sizes so you can choose your favorite.

I prefer 4-shot or 2-shot when hunting ducks and 2-shot or BB when goose hunting.

Suppose you don’t need all of the speed of the Winchester Super-X. In that case, another steel pellet option is Federal Premium Black Cloud FS Waterfowl Shotgun Shells with FliteControl FLEX Wad offering 1,450 FPS of muzzle velocity.

Hevi-Shot Hevi-Hammer offers 1,500 FPS from a steel pellet coated with bismuth that helps it penetrate deeper. Though it’s slightly cheaper than tungsten pellets, it’s more expensive than pure steel projectiles.

Deer Hunting

The effective range of a shotgun while deer hunting is greatly diminished compared to a rifle. However, some outdoorsmen enjoy the challenge of getting as close to the animal as possible, which makes deer hunting with a shotgun an exciting time.

There are two primary choices for a deer hunting shotshell. You can go with a slug or buckshot. Shotgun slugs come as sabot slugs or rifled slugs. Buckshot loads come in multiple sizes, but the most popular is double-aught.

Federal 1oz Rifled Slug

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,300 fps
  • Projectile: Rifled Slug
  • Weight: 1oz

Pros

  • Rifled slug provided more accuracy at increased distances
  • Further effective range over buckshot

Cons

  • Expensive

Why We Chose It

The Federal one-ounce rifled slug offers hunters 1,610 FPS muzzle velocity at $1.12 per round, so it’s not outrageously priced, yet you have a round capable of ethically killing a deer.

If you’re set on using a buckshot round, I recommend YAF 12g 00 Buckshot ammunition because of its increased velocity over other buckshot rounds.

Best 20 Gauge Shotgun Shell Types

Slightly smaller than a 12 gauge, the 20 gauge is often used for the same purposes as the 12ga. Many young shotgun hunters learn to hunt with a 20ga after graduating from a 410.

20ga shotshell types remain very similar to 12ga shotshells. The main difference, besides the size, is generally the number of projectiles and the amount of powder housed in the round. Depending on the firearm, this decrease often means a reduction in recoil, which is why the 12ga vs 20ga is heavily debated.

  1. Aguila #2 Buck – Best Home Defense 20ga Shells
  2. Remington Premier TSS – Best 20ga Turkey Shells
  3. Federal Game Load Upland – Best Upland and Target 20ga Shells
  4. Winchester 20 ga 3/4 oz—rifled slug – Best Deer Hunting 20ga Shotshells

Home Defense

I would much rather use a 20 gauge shotgun than a handgun for home defense because it’s easier to handle, but that could be because I grew up hunting with a 20ga shotgun.

For a self-defense situation, I still prefer buckshot pellets in a 20ga for the same reasons I like them in a 12ga; plus, the low recoil of a 20 makes the decision even more apparent.

Aguila #2 Buck

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,220 fps
  • Projectile: #2 Buckshot
  • Weight: 1 oz

Pros

  • Buckshot is less likely to over-penetrate walls
  • You have increased opportunities of stopping the threat over a slug
  • Inexpensive

Cons

  • Slower than a slug

Why We Chose It

Aguila #2 Buck clocks in at 1,220 FPS muzzle velocity, which is impressive for 20ga rounds with less powder than 12ga shells.

The buckshot is plenty big enough to stop any threat walking through your door, and since it’s a 20ga, it will kick a little less than a 12ga.

Honorable Mention

I’m not a big fan of using a slug in a defensive situation because it is more likely to penetrate multiple walls. However, if it’s all I had, I would grab the Winchester 3/4 oz rifled slug that hits 1,600 FPS.

Turkey

Because of the increased lethal range of TSS, many turkey hunters are downsizing their shotguns. 20 gauges and 410s are becoming more sought-after by turkey hunters because a 12ga is no longer needed to harvest a mature Tom ethically.

Remington Premier TSS

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,100 fps
  • Projectile: #7 Shot TSS
  • Weight: 1-1/2oz

Pros

  • Farther effective range than lead

Cons

  • Very expensive

Why We Chose It

Be prepared for sticker shock with Remington Premier TSS because it’s expensive. However, it offers a solid muzzle velocity of 1,100 FPS of 1.5 ounces of #7 shot.

You’ll be able to increase your shooting distance by several yards, so you won’t have to worry about that gobbler hanging up at 60 yards anymore.

Honorable Mention

If you’re not convinced that TSS is worth the money, Winchester 3-inch shell 1-1/4 oz. of #5 Shot also works on turkeys. It’s slightly faster at the muzzle clocking 1,185 FPS, but it won’t pack as much punch, especially at further distances.

Upland Game

For upland game and target shooting with a 20ga, the number to beat is around 1,210 FPS, which is plenty fast to harvest a pheasant or quail.

Federal Game Load Upland

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,210 fps
  • Projectile: #7 1/2 Shot
  • Weight: 7/8oz

Pros

  • Inexpensive
  • A viable upland hunting and target shooting round

Cons

  • A little more expensive than Fiocchi

Why We Chose It

Federal is right in the middle on price, yet it delivers the same ballistic performance as similar shells from different brands.

If you’re okay with increasing the shot size but losing almost 50fps you can choose the #8 shotshells for a harder-hitting load for larger upland game birds.

Honorable Mentions

Fiocchi and Winchester have shotshells with similar ballistics. The prices are also similar, especially when buying bulk 20ga ammo, but Winchester is slightly more expensive, followed by Federal, and Fiocchi is the least costly.

Waterfowl

Duck hunting with 20ga shotgun shells is similar to hunting with 12ga shotshells. I often use Winchester Super-X Expert Steel, but many manufacturers offer quality tungsten and bismuth 20 gauge loads.

It is wise to step up your shot size when waterfowl hunting with a 20 gauge because you are losing a little bit of power due to the decreased amount of powder. I tend to stick is #2s in my 20ga.

Deer Hunting

My deer hunting picks are the same as my best 20ga ammo for self-defense picks, except flip-flopped. When deer hunting, I need a projectile that penetrates the vital organs of a deer, and a slug does that best.

Winchester 20ga Rifled Slug

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 1,600 fps
  • Projectile: Rifled Slug
  • Weight: 3/4 oz

Pros

  • Trusted brand
  • Fast
  • Hard-hitting

Cons

  • Slightly more expensive

Why We Chose It

I recommend using Winchester 20 ga 3/4 oz—rifled slug ammunition because a slug carries its energy longer than buckshot.

It’s a little more expensive for some brands, but Winchester Ammunition is a brand trusted by many deer hunters.

Honorable Mentions

If you’re willing to give up a few feet per second and one ft-lb of muzzle energy, you can save money by purchasing Federal 3/4 oz. rifled slug ammo.

Aguila for buckshot ammo, but Winchester and Federal have excellent buckshot alternatives.

Best 410 Shotgun Ammo

410 shotguns are special to me because I toted one around on my first hunt, searching for a dove. I was happy to see their rise in popularity, maybe due to nostalgia amongst turkey hunters.

Though I’ve harvested many rabbits and doves with a 410, I didn’t consider it a viable option for other situations until recently.

Home Defense

Thanks to handguns like the Taurus Judge, the 410 is a very popular personal defense caliber. The 410 Hornady Critical Defense is a testament to the popularity and effectiveness of the 410 as a self-defense caliber.

410 Hornady Critical Defense

Specs

  • Muzzle Velocity: 750 fps
  • Projectile: 41 Cal slug with 2-35 Cal round balls
  • Weight: N/A

Pros

  • Can be used in a Taurus Judge or 410 shotgun.
  • Multiple projectiles

Cons

  • Expensive

Why We Chose It

This is one shotshell than can be used in a handgun or shotgun. In close quarters it’s tough to beat for self-defense.

Hornady Ammunition is one of the most trusted brands for personal defense loads and continues to produce high-quality ammunition with which you can trust your life.

410 Turkey Shells

Turkey hunters willing to spend a little more on 410 ammo often opt for TSS rounds because the extra density is needed to kill a turkey at 50 yards ethically.

There are fewer options for 410 ammo, and you’ll most often have to handload the shotshells for turkey hunting because once the factory loads hit shelves, they’re quickly scooped up.

Upland Game

You have to be an expert shot to hit an upland game bird with a 410 because there are so few pellets in the shell.

This challenge, plus the very low recoil, is precisely why some upland bird hunters hunt with a 410.

The ammo for shooting clays and upland birds is the same, so there is much more available than turkey loads.

Deer Hunting

Slugs and buckshot are available in 410 rounds; however, it lacks the needed stopping power to harvest a deer past a maximum of 100 yards ethically. But at a close range, it can make for an exciting hunt.

Shotgun Shell Types Explained

Different Shotgun shells

Understanding shotgun ammunition is confusing until you understand a few primary attributes of all shotshells.

You first need to understand how shotgun bore sizing affects your shotgun shell loads. Once you know this, we can move on to the different loads and discuss pellet size.

Shotgun Bore Sizes

Shotgun bores were not measured initially in the same way as a rifle bore. Now there is a standardized bore size for all shotgun gauges, and some find it a little confusing because it’s backward.

Here’s what I mean, the smallest shotgun bore is a 410, followed by a 28 gauge, 20 gauge, 16 gauge, 12 gauge, and 10 gauge. As the numbers decrease, the bore increases in size. Except for the 410, this goes back to how shotgun bores were initially measured using lead balls.

Shotgun Shell Loads

Because a shotgun is a smoothbore firearm, it can fire many different projectiles. Those projectiles have differing weights and densities, so they need different amounts of powder to propel them down the barrel. This is how you can feel more or less recoil from differing loads.

For instance, target loads and birdshot, typically 7 or 8 shot, are known for little recoil. This is because they don’t need as much force i.e. powder, to propel them out of the barrel.

On the other hand, Slugs and buckshot have much more kick to them because you’re firing a heavier projectile.

On the box of shotgun ammunition, the shot size should be displayed alongside how heavy that shot is and the estimated velocity, length, and gauge of the shell so you can be confident you’re getting the correct ammunition.

Shotgun pellets

Shotgun Pellet Size

Shotgun loads come in differing shot sizes. They are typically ranging from 12 shot to 000 buck.

The size of the shot is measured similarly to gauges because the larger the number, the smaller the shot. So 8 shot is smaller pellets than 2 shot which is smaller than BB, which is smaller than buckshot.

When hunting, you want to match your shot size with your intended target. So for small game birds like quail, 8 shot is plenty, but when deer hunting, buckshot or slugs are needed to penetrate better.

Choosing the Right Type of Shotgun

Purchasing the correct shotgun is very important; while you can use a hunting shotgun for self-defense, it’s best to choose the right tool for the job.

There are many different styles and types of shotguns, such as single-shot, double-barrel, over-under, pump action, and semi-auto. Each has its place, but not all are ideal for every situation.

A pump action shotgun is often the best place to begin in most cases.

Choosing a Choke

Shotgun choke, shotgun shells

Once you’ve bought a shotgun, you’ll need a choke. Most shotguns come with a few interchangeable factory chokes that get the job done.

I hunted waterfowl for many years using a factory choke. Eventually, I upgraded to an aftermarket choke, but you must be careful because some chokes only work with certain materials.

For instance, most aftermarket turkey chokes are unsuitable for shooting steel shots. You could damage your gun or injure yourself if you attempt to shoot the wrong shot through the choke.

Chokes come in different “sizes,” meaning they pattern differently at various ranges.

An open choke allows the pattern to spread quickly, so it’s best in close range. A moderate forces the pattern to hold together for longer than an open choke and is best for medium-range shots.

A full choke is best for long ranges because it forces the pattern to stay tight for farther distances. For maximum distances, use an extra-full choke.

Patterning Your Shotgun

Target after its been shot with a shotgun

Once you have a shotgun, choke, and ammunition, it’s vital to pattern your shotgun. This means taking your shotgun to the range and shooting a paper target to see how it shoots.

You’ll find that certain brands and specific shot size pattern better than others out of your gun. For instance, I had a Mossberg semi-auto than didn’t cycle or pattern very well until I changed ammo. Once I switched, it made a big difference. However, my Retay semi-auto could handle that brand of ammo just fine.

Figuring out your shot pattern will help you be more accurate when it matters most.

Conclusion

Choosing the best shotgun shell types will heavily depend on your situation.

The best self-defense shotgun ammo is usually buckshot. While the best shotgun shells for hunting depends on what animal you’re hunting.

All the above recommendations will lead you in the right direction on your next shotgun ammo purchase.

The Best Shotgun Shell Types for Home Defense & Hunting originally appeared in The Resistance Library at Ammo.com.

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Author: Sam Jacobs

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Anonymous
Anonymous
June 1, 2023 10:44 am

First one’s birdshot , next four are 00 Buck , last one’s a slug , just for good luck.

Tex
Tex
  Anonymous
June 1, 2023 11:04 am

Inside the house 1-1/8 oz of #7-1/2 lead shot is probably adequate. I don’t have a “home defense” shotgun but if I did I would probably just fill it with #4 buck.

Duck hunting the many years I did that was with reloads. #5 lead shot when it was legal , Dupont 4756 power , 12 or 20 gauge did the trick. Side note, #5 lead shot ( or #4) is probably adequate inside the home. My opinion 00 Buck busts some stuff but not necessary inside the home. Across the yard, yeah. Be sure to drag the victim inside the house and cover it up, all the blood in the grass etc.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Tex
June 1, 2023 11:29 am

I agree with using a trap load 7 1/2 or 8. Inside a house the pattern will be about the size of an orange wherever you shoot so they are going to get hit by a sledge hammer. I also like #5. It has always been one shell one pheasant with 5 over #6. Supposedly the difference between 5 and 6 is the largest difference between the various shot sizes in killing effect.
I keep a box of #4 buck near the door for coyotes. If it was a Democrat throwing Molotovs I’d use 3 inch mags with #1 buck. I weigh 200 pounds and those about knock me over fired from a semi auto.
I’ve got some Spartan 12 ga. 00 buck that are just like shooting trap loads and have a beautiful pattern at 25 yards.
I have some Winchester 3″ .410 with five 000 buck. Nice tight pattern.

Tex
Tex
  Harrington Richardson
June 1, 2023 11:58 am

I do agree with you there. 🙂

I have many 12ga reloads but had sold an 870 when I stopped duck hunting when steel shot became the law. Not for that reason. I bought an H&R single shot, 28″ modified , at Wal Marts no less so at least to have a barrel to shove those reloads if needed. That thing is so light it will hurt you and I’m accustomed to staying in shape shooting my old military rifles. The H&R is a beast on the shoulder so I bought a slip on recoil pad that fits a Mosin too. All’s well with no more bruised shoulder. I have a case of Win SuperX 1-1/4 oz #4 lead shot and a case of #6 I bought when it was way less expensive than now as prepping items.

Grumpy
Grumpy
  Tex
June 1, 2023 11:40 am

Agree on the #4 Buck. I live in a retirement community with homes close together. #4 will get the job done inside the house and is less likely than 00 to get through multiple walls and ko my innocent neighbor.

Tex
Tex
  Grumpy
June 1, 2023 12:04 pm

I’ll be pulling out various Buck and testing on paper. This area still allows high power rifle for hunting but becoming more populated. I’ve not shot deer here but working in that direction and thinking for liability reasons best to give it a go with Buck. Probably 00. Shots will be maximum 50 yrds.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Tex
June 1, 2023 1:45 pm

Try to find some 000 buck. If you can find an H&R 176 single shot 10 gauge, I know someone makes a 3 1/2″ 10 mag with 000 buck. The old 176’s are highly sought after. 36″ barrel that looks like an artillery tube. Very heavy. You can shoot the big mags in shirtsleeves with zero recoil issues. We had some 2 7/8″ Remingtons in #4 and Federal Premium copper plated BB 3 1/2″. With a hand thrower we would whip clay birds as hard as possible and were powdering the clay at 75 yards plus. Put 12 BB’s in a one gallon milk jug at 100.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Tex
June 1, 2023 5:52 pm

I do a GREAT deal of upland hunting and have for decades.
Nothing less than #6 for any flushed gamebird.
I only use #4 for pheasant, especially later in the season and when there
is any wind, which is always on the western plains. I use steel #2 for ducks,
BB for geese. I use Tungsten in my 100 year old AH Fox .12. For home defence
I use a fearsome auto loading AR15 platform mag fed .12 that only cycles reliably
with ammo over 1300 FPS so I only buy ammo with that velocity.
#4 (no buck) shot for that. Inside a home, no chance of killing a neighbor and
no chance for survival of an intruder. I have some #4 buck in a second Mag.
24 .24 caliber pellets in that magnificent round. Devastating.
Slugs are too dangerous in a dense neighborhood due to over penetration.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
June 1, 2023 12:41 pm

I would have liked to see mention of sabot rounds and less than lethal projectile rounds.
The first shot from my riot gun is a fuzzy rubber ball that leaves horrible deep bruises filled up of course with 00 buck and a slug at the end.

Bauls
Bauls
  YourAverageJoe
June 1, 2023 7:34 pm

Less than lethal for a home intruder filled w/ kids and a wife, I never considered. Joe I would be fine w/ you visiting me, we live relatively close together, but that would be an invitation, not an invasion where the Scatterguns spread throughout the house, a Hungarian ppk knockoff or a judge, depending on vehicle, 357 for the wife’s travels, other stuff in the bottom of the lake, but for friendlies, we might be the nicest folk you ever met 🙂 gotta be fine with dogs, quail, guinnies,rabbits, chickens, and a crapload of kids. The kicker is 2 daughters have 2 outdoor cats, so not my fav, just throwing out the negative

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 1, 2023 1:14 pm

In gun news , when they say there will be a ” grandfather clause ” as a way to sell gun ban legislation, just know it’s not worth the paper it’s written on.

Today CT , PA you next.

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023/05/31/connecticut-democrats-are-gunning-for-the-second-amendment-n70981

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Anonymous
June 1, 2023 1:58 pm

Trying the same shit in Illinois. Just register it and it will be grandfathered. NY did the same thing. Then fucked everybody. I recall a Brit who had an FN FAL legally purchased in the 50’s. Later the law required it be converted to semi-auto only. After that they were banned and confiscated. He still has his hanging on the wall with a large part of the receiver cut out. They might let you keep it if it is rendered inoperable permanently.
Military caliber weapons are illegal in Mexico. They have private criminal armies with armor, machine guns, heavy weapons, rocket launchers, the whole show. Were any of these termite fuques paying attention they could see nothing stops criminals. I bet some of them get payoffs from those criminals while persecuting us.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Harrington Richardson
June 1, 2023 3:01 pm

why you hate the little childrenz ?
/s

Bauls
Bauls
  Anonymous
June 1, 2023 7:38 pm

Our sniffer in chief loves any child he can get his hands on

Bauls
Bauls
  Harrington Richardson
June 1, 2023 7:37 pm

I like how the us is armed virtually every country with autos and rockets, yet the people who pay for them will never see one,much less own one. Makes sense in the clown world

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 1, 2023 2:01 pm

It all depends on the distance.

GNL
GNL
June 1, 2023 2:01 pm

Is it odd that sabot rounds weren’t discussed?

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 1, 2023 3:59 pm

Rio #4 buck 21 pellet. Case of 250 was $120 shipped years ago.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Anonymous
June 1, 2023 6:56 pm

Before the Plandemic era stuff like Rio or Spartan etc. could be found as low as $69/250 +s&h. Be still my heart. Lordy.

tsquared
tsquared
June 1, 2023 8:56 pm

I have 4 shotguns. I inherited a Stevens 12 gauge double barrel from my grandfather. It has been my hunting shotgun since 1980. I have purchased a couple of shotguns over the years but would always come beck to the DB. I inherited a 12 gauge single shot goose gun from my wife’s grandfather. It only comes out at Turkey shoots. I inherited a 410 single shot from my father-in-law. It was a truck for a while and now it is a safe queen. I inherited my fathers 12 gauge 870 Wingmaster with a 2.75″ chamber. The barrel was shot out and I turned it a police 870 and it is in the bedroom with low impact 00 buckshot 2.5″ shells with an extended magazine tube. If it had a 3″ chamber I would have put a new barrel on it.

I grew up with my dad and uncles reloading. I don’t use a shotgun much but except for the 2.5″ 00 Buckshot all the ammo I have for shotgun is reloads. I have most of a box of 6.8mm sabots, 00 Buckshot in 2.75 and 3″ shells, and multiple boxes of #4, #8, & #10 shotshell. I haven’t loaded any shotgun since 2006. The good thing about ammo is that it stores well.

Thank You Mr Jacobs for Your efforts
Thank You Mr Jacobs for Your efforts
June 1, 2023 9:02 pm

MUCH legitimate info/opinion/substantiation, over time.

AND, I can ONLY speak for myself.

imho, Age contingent, (👁’ma big pussy, now) but my MOST sincere Prayer/Hope/Wish?

That i’m NEVER placed in the position of having to KILL someone(s).

Due to my OWN ‘Stupidity’? a few ‘squeakers’.

‘Thank GOD!’ is all I can surmise.

For the sake of brevity: Nothing is guaranteed, and while HIGHLY unlikely for any # of reasons…

INSIDE? “The sound of racking” (generically speaking) WILL NOT be a “WARning”/consideration.

Depending on the circumstances, (use Your imagination) i would use every available means to ascertain the REAL threat level in the allotted ‘time window’, but i would…

Shoot 1st. No Warning. KEEP at it until ‘done’.

2 possible outcomes.

In for a dime. In for a dollar.

Mr. Hand
Mr. Hand

Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition.

Old Jarhead
Old Jarhead
June 1, 2023 11:18 pm

Joe Biden’s “just point it in the general direction” is, as usual for him, a damn fantasy. Shotguns MUST be aimed. The spread from factory barrels is only about 1/2 inch per yard. That said, the longest shot inside a dwelling is likely less than 7 yards (or 3.5 inches spread). I’ve done my own patterning (as should every owner with each gun and ammo combination), and .5″ per yard holds up.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/04/myth-busting-1-per-yard-shotgun-pattern-spreads/

Other than size, weight, and recoil the biggest disadvantage to shotguns is ammo supply and reloading. The modern shotgun, whether semi or pump, is the most challenging firearm to manipulate under stress. Regardless of the long gun, short overall length (legal length!), for operating inside a dwelling is also consideration. My personal favorite shotgun for enclosed spaces is the Keltec KSG, which also makes it very easy to switch from slugs to buck. Outside I’ll take my VangComp Mossberg 590.
Personally, if the problem I’m trying to solve isn’t a bear, I’d rather have a suppressed AR SBR.
There is evidence that certain .223 rounds over penetrate drywall less than buck, pistol, or other rifle rounds, also the lower recoil, adjustability of the platform, and easy manipulation make an AR a much better whole-family choice.