The Fourth Turning is Here Review – A Complex System?

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YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
August 30, 2023 2:38 pm

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Anonymous
Anonymous
August 30, 2023 3:14 pm

I don’t intend to read the sequel. However, as regards the headline above – “A Complex System” – I recently read an interesting essay [link below] that considers various complex system failures. (Coincidentally I was re-reading “The Coming Dark Age” by Roberto Vacca, 1974, which deals with the nature of and failure of large systems). The essay argues that current failures appear to be part of a broad, ongoing breakdown that is grounded in the destruction of our meritocratic economic system. My take from it is that we won’t need to “go Galt” because systemic failure is going to be part of the process that brings it all down.

https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/

k31
k31
  Anonymous
August 30, 2023 11:02 pm

That’s one way to look at it, for sure.

m
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  Anonymous
August 31, 2023 5:36 am

I also about 10 years ago came to te conclusion that (over-)complexity was the driver of decline, currently of the West.
I was wrong. Just as you are, and the video.

All that just scratches the surface, as it fails to consider what are the requirements to build and sustain a meritocracy.
The answer is a commonly-agreed-upon system of morality.

While several approaches have succeeded to build such a foundation, it seems to me only a few religions have been able to sustain it for more than 3 generations – the most successful one being Christianity.
What you currently are seeing [in the West] is what happens when you take away that sustaining influence [seriously starting about 70 years ago].