Lessons From the Playground

Grow up!

Guest post by Robert Gore at Straight Line Logic

The lessons many of us took from playgrounds are helpful in analyzing war, although war, being humanity’s stupidest activity, is less excusable and less interesting than playground dynamics. Grownups, after all, are supposed to be wiser and more mature than kids. Realizing that most aren’t is one of those rites of passage into adulthood.

On the playground you’ll find one or more bullies, who terrorize the weaker, smaller kids. The bullies tend to form their own clique. Their victims try to stay out of their way, but bullies gotta bully. The victims quickly learn that appealing to adult authority is guaranteed trouble. While bullies may be reprimanded or otherwise punished, they have ways of dealing with upstarts and snitches, and their revenge is always disproportionate.

Once in a too great while the oppressed band together and take revenge on their oppressors, or a bully misjudges a kid as a potential victim and finds out the hard way that the kid knows how to take care of him or herself. Often in such circumstances, bullies will make their own ludicrous appeal to authority, complaining that they’re being picked on.

The foregoing pretty much describes the Israel-Palestinian war that has raged since 1948. Without engaging in the endless debate about who started it and who’s at fault for what, it is indisputable that Israel has the disproportionate power in the situation, up to and including its nuclear arsenal. It is also indisputable that it has not hesitated to use that power to enter and occupy what had formerly been Palestinian territory and to bully Palestinians into ever-shrinking enclaves. It now appears that Israel wants to bully the Palestinians out of what is now Israel altogether, so that there will be no more Palestinians in what used to be Palestine.

Palestinian responses to their plight, usually violent, have been met with disproportionate retribution; that’s official Israeli doctrine. Ten or more eyes for an eye, ten or more teeth for a tooth. It’s playing out again in Gaza. Israel appeals long and loud to its bully clique—it’s being picked on by Palestinians who represent Islamic antisemitism and who want to wipe Israel off the map. Undoubtedly many Palestinians want to do just that, just as many Israelis want to force the Palestinians to go elsewhere, but who has the power to achieve their goals?

On the playground, only the bullies can end the violence. It rarely happens, but they do have that power. Similarly, only Israel can end the conflict. Israel’s partisans sometimes argue that the Palestinians could end it by surrendering. Left unstated: that would entail Palestinians accepting their continuing subjugation to Israel, which would only guarantee more violence.

As pipe-dreamy as it sounds, to end the war, Israel would have to cede a chunk of its territory to the Palestinians for the creation of a fully independent Palestinian state. Relations between the two countries would then be governed by the rules of international relations. Neither nation could legally invade the other, and any such invasion would justify self-defensive retaliatory force by the invaded nation and its allies. Absent this solution, the 75-year war may continue for another 75 years . . . or for centuries . . . or for millennia.

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Perhaps that solution isn’t as pipe-dreamy as it sounds. A continuing Straight Line Logic theme has been the ongoing dispersal and decentralization of communications, computing power, and the capacity for violence (see “Ants at the Picnic,” Parts One and Two). The Israelis could lose, as ostensibly more powerful nations have been losing to insurgent guerrillas since the end of World War II.

The photos, videos, and news accounts from Gaza and the West Bank have created a powerful upwelling of sympathy and support in the Middle East and around the world, particularly in the Global South, for the Palestinians. Their cause has even overcome the centuries-old Sunni-Shia schism. Sunni Palestinians are receiving aid from the Shia crescent extending from Iran to Yemen and northern Africa.

If Israel is unable to subjugate the Palestinians and their overt and covert allies and in fact loses, the lesson from the playground is that humiliated bullies are dealt with harshly. Their victims don’t forget what was done to them. Israel may find itself in the same position, and the victors may want to wipe it off the map. Maybe the pipe dream isn’t such a pipe dream after all.

Back to the playground. Occasionally there is a big, strong kid who doesn’t want to pick on anybody, he just wants to go his own way and be left alone—a gentle giant. And occasionally there are one or more pipsqueaks who mistake forbearance for weakness. They tease and otherwise annoy him, ignore his warnings, and count on him not to retaliate. Then one day the giant has had enough, and he puts the pipsqueaks in their place. They don’t bother him anymore.

That pretty much describes the Ukraine-Russia war. Vladimir Putin stated repeatedly that Russia would not tolerate NATO membership and NATO nuclear weapons for Ukraine. Breaking U.S. promises not to expand eastward beyond reunited Germany’s borders, made when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991, NATO incorporated former Warsaw Pact nations and Baltic states and told Ukraine that it would become a member. In December 2021 the Putin government released an eight-point set of demands—including a prohibition on Ukraine’s membership in NATO—that it said should serve as the basis of negotiations. Russia warned that ignoring its demands could lead to a military response.

NATO ignored the demands, rejected negotiations, and two months later Russia invaded Ukraine. The U.S.-led alliance assumed that arming Ukraine and imposing stringent economic and diplomatic sanctions would be Russia’s undoing. The propaganda machine cranked into overdrive and Ukraine’s leader, Volodymyr Zelensky, became the toast of Western capitals and the mainstream press. Everyone stood with Ukraine’s corrupt, Nazi-riddled government. Zelensky was Time’s 2022 Person of the Year.

NATO foolishly underestimated the bear. The sanctions didn’t work. The war strengthened both the Russia-China alliance and support for Russia among non-Western nations, many of whom ignored the sanctions. Russia has achieved its Special Military Operation’s objectives. Zelensky is a pipsqueak who’s been put in his place, and NATO’s epic mistake leaves it with nothing but unpalatable consequences and options.

Now it is up to Ukraine and NATO pipsqueaks to end the war, and they eventually will, or they will commit suicide and escalate it. The U.S. government has achieved a rare historical distinction: it stands revealed as a pipsqueak in Ukraine and a bully in Gaza. In both instances it could end the conflict, but the Biden administration has shown no inclination to do so. By telling Ukraine and Israel to knock it off, the U.S. could preserve whatever respect it still has from the rest of the world. However, the playground isn’t the only place where humiliated bullies and pipsqueaks receive harsh treatment.

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The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
December 10, 2023 12:46 pm

US veto of the UN Security Council resolution for a cease fire (the only vote against the cease fire) in Gaza clearly shows the US is the bully of the world

“Do what I say or I’ll beat you up”

They will turn the whole world against the US, just to put a few more dollars in their pockets

God help us all

Anonymous
Anonymous
  The Duke of New York
December 10, 2023 1:10 pm

The US has become an Empire run by and for the benefit of a rootless cosmopolitan globalist elite, many of whom are Jewish.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 5:09 pm

Via mass insouciant acquiescence.

Resistance is not futile. It is essential.

Not Robinette
Not Robinette
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 9:09 pm

and some of whom manage to get their 10% with each installment of American dollars.

Russ
Russ
  The Duke of New York
December 10, 2023 2:44 pm

The US beast is doing it’s job of making an image to the first. And the first has nothing to do with Joos except using the chaos to solidify its pre-eminence.

Not a republicrat
Not a republicrat
  Russ
December 10, 2023 7:56 pm

“has nothing to do with Jooos”- that’s some first class Bullshit right there.

Barry mcCockiner
Barry mcCockiner
  The Duke of New York
December 10, 2023 4:31 pm

The Khazarian Mafia Ashkenazi Jews who control the US Government are doing their damnedest to incite global thermonuclear war, primarily with Russia and China.

There will be blood…

(((They))) want it to be yours…not theirs…

What say You???

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Barry mcCockiner
December 10, 2023 5:11 pm

Via mass insouciant acquiescence.

Resistance is not futile. It is essential.

I say, no minority has any power over the majority.

Not a republicrat
Not a republicrat
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 7:59 pm

You are obviously wrong- unless thousands of years of history are wrong- I don’t mean the vistor’s history but the true history- you’d be hard pressed to name one time the majority actually ruled.. If you can it was blip in time.

wideguy
wideguy
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 5:47 pm

I think it might have happened for a day or two in France, and it led directly to the Terror, and then Napoleon.

flash
flash
  Barry mcCockiner
December 10, 2023 6:01 pm

Until we outlive them all….

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Ed
Ed
  flash
December 10, 2023 10:16 pm

More like, “Henry Kissinger: Passing of a rock-hard turd”.

Hank
Hank
  flash
December 11, 2023 9:13 pm

Henry and George probably used to go to summer camp in Bavaria together in the 1920s.

wideguy
wideguy
  The Duke of New York
December 10, 2023 6:04 pm

You could say that the IDF is the adult in the room, and is willing to keep punishing the bullies who keep attacking Israel with all sorts of terrorism against civilians and outright acts of war, until they stop acting up.

For matters of accurate definition, a Palestinian is someone who lives in Palestine, which used to be called Judea, and has been the legitimate homeland of the Jews for more than 2000 years. It’s also been the home of many non-Jews, who have, since 1947 been trying to drive the Jews out of Judea.

It’s an unfortunate truth that radical Marxist Islamists are in charge of most of the nations surrounding Israel, and In Iran too. That their civilian populations pay a heavy price every time they decide to attack Israel is something that’s on them.

How many times has the UN and or U.S. already “solved” the problem?

flash
flash
  wideguy
December 10, 2023 6:14 pm

Have you ever thought it might be a baglog of soyjak menopause making you so wide?

Vox Day
@voxday

Oct 29th 2023
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Christian Zionists who cite “the Bible” in defense of the modern State of Israel clearly haven’t actually read the relevant verses. More than one-half the territory inside the current boundaries of Israel are outside the historical boundaries of both the tribe and the kingdom of Judah.

Jews have literally never had a historical claim to any land in Israel north of Jericho prior to 1948.

The blue area on the map below marks the maximum extent of the Biblical claims.
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flash
flash
  flash
December 10, 2023 6:17 pm

With God on Our Side (2010) |

Swrichmond
Swrichmond
  flash
December 10, 2023 8:09 pm

Nice map, gives the lie to the oft-repeated “2,000 years!” claim

wideguy
wideguy
  Swrichmond
December 11, 2023 5:50 pm

Look at it a bit more carefully, fool.

wideguy
wideguy
  flash
December 11, 2023 5:50 pm

Sorry, all the colored areas are where the various tribes of Israel, i.e. Jews, lived. Even in Moab and Edom.

Teo Toon
Teo Toon
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 9:44 pm

Wideguy : If you do not know the difference between a Judahite and an Israelite, or between a Judahite and a Jew; between Judaism and Hebrewism,between the Talmud &Zohar and the Old Testament, between a Japhethite and a Semite, you should be ashamed of yourself; and until you know those differences, you are unfit to enter this dialog.
Furthermore, you are further unfit if you do not comprehend that when all 12 tribes are grouped together, as they were before the death of Solomon, they were collectively called Israelites, not effing Jews. You are even more unfit if you do not know the migrations of the Ten Northern Tribes and where they are now.
According to the Jewish encyclopedia, Jewry is Edom; the promises and blessings made to Jacob do not apply to Esau; nor do they apply to the Canaanites, nor to the Ashkenazim/Khazarians.
I recommend you stay home from your Ziongelic church for the next few weeks and learn these things; and then, change to a real church.

wideguy
wideguy
  Teo Toon
December 12, 2023 6:27 pm

In the time when the 12 tribes of Israel inhabited Palestine, their religion was in flux, various tribes held various versions of adherence to the Law of Moses, but they all had that in common, they claimed to be following the teachings of Abraham and Moses.
Technically, none of them were Jews as the term is used today. Yes, they were Israelites, and tribes that gained ascendance (or maybe all of them) thought the others were what Christians call heretics, that is, they were wrong in how they followed the law. Nevertheless, they were all the ancestors of modern Jews, and that was who was living in Palestine.
Are you arguing that the people of the twelve tribes of Israel are something other than the forbears of modern Jews? Or that the descendants of the others who lived at that time in Palestine have a better claim to live there now and are justified in wanting to toss all the Jews out?

Bob
Bob
  wideguy
December 10, 2023 7:56 pm

Yeah, and the Red Native American had this entire continent as their homeland for 20,000+ years. They were the legitimate owner of the land you are living on right now. Are you willing to move out when He shows up to kick you out?

k31
k31
  Bob
December 10, 2023 11:22 pm

The world is not even that old.

Htos1av
Htos1av
  k31
December 11, 2023 9:55 am

Pre/post Flood are separate epochs. SO different there were different “laws’ of physics-pre/post, DOWN TO the electron, that’s what the rainbow IS all about…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  k31
December 11, 2023 9:06 pm

Holy cow!

Ivan
Ivan
  Bob
December 11, 2023 1:51 am

Yawn.

You’ve no idea how long Indians lived in n america or where, they were nomadic savages, brutal and mostly fought and killed one another.

Th remaining tribes also do not prefer being called natives, karen.

Vikings were here at least as long as ‘Red Native Americans’.

Htos1av
Htos1av
  Ivan
December 11, 2023 9:56 am

They came to CONUS during the Younger-Dryas as the descendants of the nephilim (going on to be the Khans) were EATING all the “normal” humans. So they emigrated.

wideguy
wideguy
  Ivan
December 11, 2023 5:57 pm

Mostly their original names for themselves ran to thing like “The True People” or “The People”, and, in general, they viewed other tribes as less than fully human.
Those that didn’t realize a few centuries ago that assimilation, becoming Americans, would be very beneficial to them. The ones that haven’t, well scroom.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Bob
December 11, 2023 9:01 am

The United States Bureau of Indian Affairs has 565 registered tribes in its service. Native American populations are described as a people, a nation and then a tribe within a nation. The tribes known in the 18th century and recognized by the new nation of the United States were mostly the same as in the 16th Century when European colonization began.

https://sciencing.com/list-american-tribes-1500-1600-8416478.html

Those tribes did not live in peace with each other. They were a warring people long before we showed up. They took each other as slaves and took land from each other. If Native Americans showed up at your door would you give them your land? The European Jews terrorized the occupants of Palestine until they moved or died or were moved by the Jews. If we had not been supporting Israel, things would look different.

Palestine had been occupied by the British. It was a mixture of Muslims, Christians and a few Jews. With our support the UN drew lines for the settlers and the Palestinians. It was never enough for the Jews.

I don’t want to take sides in this matter but my government has taken a side I disagree with.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
December 11, 2023 9:46 am

Total bullshit there Mary. European Jews terrorized the “occupants” (I love that you called them that)of Palestine? How ? By moving back to their ancestral homeland and settling the land, which was mostly barren desert and wasteland and they turned it into fertile productive farms and cities? And then when the Arabs tried to kick them out and lost and those precious Palestinians lost the land they were squatting on, you jew haters pitch a fit. Too fkn bad.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 11:10 am

Every heard of the Irgun? A Jewish terrorist organization. I’m sure this article leaves out the worst.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-of-the-irgun-etzel

wideguy
wideguy
  Mary Christine
December 11, 2023 6:03 pm

Sure, and I know why they were created too.

Bob
Bob
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 11:18 am

The Jews lost their “homeland” through conquest by the Romans 2000 years ago. As far as I know, no other peoples have ever had a right to return to reclaim land lost to conquest after 150 years let alone 2000 years and history is replete with conquest. My question is why special rules for the Jewish people that no other conquered peoples have ever had? Is it because they wave their magic book that was written by Jews for Jews in everyone’s face and claim that, they, the Jews, are a “special” race. How fucking convenient for them.
No race is special. All are equal in my eyes, or should be. Apply the same rules evenly around the world and there would be much less strife.

wideguy
wideguy
  Bob
December 11, 2023 6:05 pm

Probably because the civilized world is tired of people trying to wipe out a whole group of people based on their religion.
When the Islamists realize that what you say is true, that Jews are entitled to that equality you mention, there will be a lot less strife.

Leon
Leon
  Bob
December 11, 2023 9:26 pm

Rhetorical question: then would it be okay for Israel and/or “the Jews” to initiate a fresh conquest to take what they want? Kinda seems like that is what they are doing in recent months.

wideguy
wideguy
  Mary Christine
December 11, 2023 6:01 pm

There were only “a few Jews” because various empires over the millennia kept driving them out and trying to annihilate them.
Do you envision a good future for Palestinian Jews if the Islamists get their way?
Who is arming the terrorists in Gaza? Do they have their own MIC?

wideguy
wideguy
  Bob
December 11, 2023 5:53 pm

Just like the ancient Israelite’s, Europeans took America by right of conquest, something all the tribes in both places clearly understood.

No doubt the first man to step onto North America looked around and claimed it all for his tribe.

Not a republicrat
Not a republicrat
  wideguy
December 10, 2023 8:01 pm

Wideguy should think with his brain not his wideass.

wideguy
wideguy
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 6:07 pm

A very cogent rejoinder fool.

Ed
Ed
  wideguy
December 10, 2023 10:17 pm

Damn,wideass boy. You obviously watch way too much TV.

wideguy
wideguy
  Ed
December 11, 2023 6:08 pm

In truth, very little. I do read a lot of books.

Jdog
Jdog
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 12:00 am

Israel is a criminal organization impersonating a country. The day it is wiped off the map and all its inhabitants gone will be the day the world is better off. Fuck the Zionists, and fuck anyone who supports them….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
December 11, 2023 9:51 am

JDog shit fer brains. Israel ain’t going nowhere. They are beating the shit out of hamass. So GFY

Jdog
Jdog
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 10:40 pm

Hamas is killing jews like the pigs they are. Bleeding jews are a very good thing….

wideguy
wideguy
  Jdog
December 11, 2023 6:09 pm

What do you think about Communist China?

Wes
Wes
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 9:29 pm

Wondering if Jdog sees any parallel between Israel and The United States of America?

Jdog
Jdog
  Wes
December 11, 2023 10:41 pm

Israel owns the USA.. The whole fucking government are jew dick suckers..

wideguy
wideguy
  Wes
December 12, 2023 6:32 pm

They are both fairly civilized nations that believe individuals have rights.
That makes them fundamentally different than the countries that surround Israel.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 6:40 am

Some problems are never intended to be solved. Sometimes the problem is the solution.

Using things like the Bible to justify a claim you have isn’t going to have a huge impact on the people you’ve spent 75 years trying to convince that there is no God.

All of your reasoning, the trigger words used in your argument, the appeal to history- none of that is working the way it used to because you’re now dealing with a very different sort of people. The old tactics no longer work because the former populations of ally nations have become so divided by diversity, have so many different perspectives due to multiculturalism, and so little understanding of a history that has been mocked, ridiculed and erased that they no longer follow the time honored traditions required to keep this thing going- They have been replaced, like the people who originally opened their doors in welcome, leaving the Chosen with fewer options and less support than at any time since their creation.

In Jewish tradition, this is the curse of the Golem.

…a mindless lunk or entity that serves a man under controlled conditions, but is hostile to him under other conditions.

In other words turning America into a multicultural empire worked until it didn’t.

I regularly travel between the world of the working stiff and the inhabitants of the ivory towers. The conversations taking place in each of those spheres could not be any further apart. Those at the top share your world view and are 100% in lockstep with Israel. So are those down in the trenches, but they support the other side. One has all the power and the other has the numbers. The folks running the Ivys are being told by the big donors that if they don’t expel the student protestors and clamp down on free speech, they aren’t going to write anymore checks and the people with calloused hands speak of Israel in the same tones that they used to use towards Nazis.

How this resolves itself only time will tell, but there is no longer any room for a compromise.

wideguy
wideguy
  hardscrabble farmer
December 11, 2023 6:13 pm

There is a very large body of good empirical evidence that Jews lived in Judea 2000 years ago, and even before that. No Bible is required for that fact.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 6:38 pm

All kinds of people have lived there over time.

Most of them don’t use the Bible as proof of ownership.

It’s a moot point anyway, it isn’t like they are going to leave Israel, they’ll almost certainly prevail this time, plenty of the Western World left to send the Palestinians to right now and we’re in the midst of a human mass migration normalization period anyway.

The truth is that might, force, violence, whatever you want to call it, is the way someone really stakes a claim, the rest of it is the human inclination to mythologize their destinies.

Wes
Wes
  hardscrabble farmer
December 11, 2023 9:34 pm

Seems like “might, force, violence” is exactly the strategy Israel is following.

wideguy
wideguy
  Wes
December 12, 2023 6:35 pm

When your neighbors launch an attack against you, and constantly employ terrorists to kill and maim your civilian population, using force against them is justified.

Goat!
Goat!
  wideguy
December 12, 2023 9:03 pm

Yep, glad you agree Hamas had every right to defend itself on Oct 6th.

wideguy
wideguy
  Goat!
December 16, 2023 5:41 pm

Who struck the first blow? Hamas. That makes them the aggressor, and Israel acting in defense.
That’s a tricky question, “Do the instigators who start a war have a right to defend themselves when the people they attack retaliate?”
I’m inclined to say that if you start a war, you forego rights.

Tom
Tom
  The Duke of New York
December 10, 2023 8:41 pm

Since everything else the Biden regime is doing to the US is clearly designed to wreck the nation and destroy our reputation, consider that the terrible optics of being the lone vote against a ceasefire is exactly what they intended. The same goes for the historic blunder of poking the Bear in Ukraine. You’ve heard the Trump meme, “They’re not after me, they’re after you; I’m just in the way.” That has been expanded to, “They’re not after America, they’re after the world; America is just in the way.” Russian sovereignty stands in the way of the Globalist’s New World Order too, like the US’s ideals of freedom do. Taking both down via a “let’s you and him fight” is what the Globalists want. Trump and Putin both know this, and have used this conflict as a golden opportunity to wipe out Ukraine’s last Nazi enclave and neutralize one of the Khazarian Mafia’s money laundering centers.

Lenny
Lenny
  Tom
December 11, 2023 9:36 pm

It all started on Day One when President Imbecile shut down the pipeline. Ever since it has been SSDD.

Claude
Claude
December 10, 2023 12:53 pm

Shadowing under the umbrella of the US “war on terror”, Israel has for the past 22 years pretty much had a green light for unopposed ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian territories. Stealing of land and rapidly building settlements is the norm, and all resistance is met with a vastly disproportionate response. No-one disagrees that Israel has the right to defend itself, but ethnic cleansing is not defense.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Claude
December 10, 2023 2:55 pm

I disagree…Israel is a colonial occupier of stolen Palestinian land, and that would have been acceptable, if not moral, if they left it at that, instead of jailing or killing Palestinians, and constantly stealing more land, shooting unarmed protestors, including children…

wideguy
wideguy
  pyrrhus
December 10, 2023 6:14 pm

Fooey. The land was recovered from the Ottoman Turks, who were colonial occupiers of Judea, as were many other empires over the years.

If the Islamists (and Marxists) who keep attacking Israel would stop… Ah, but they won’t. Not until Israel is obliterated and all the Jews are killed.

Not a republicrat
Not a republicrat
  wideguy
December 10, 2023 8:03 pm

We can always hope.

wideguy
wideguy
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 6:17 pm

“We”? Can you give us a list of names of who that “we” includes? Thanks.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 6:25 pm

We includes him, his boyfriend and the muslim goatfuckers that live in his house

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 6:24 pm

We can always hope that hamass fucks you in the ass

Anon
Anon
  wideguy
December 10, 2023 10:05 pm

Moshe Dayan speaking at the funeral of an IDF soldier in 1957.
“Let us not cast the blame on the murderers today. Why should we declare their burning hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes *** we have been transforming the lands and the villages where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate.***”

Bob
Bob
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 2:12 pm

How long does a people have to live in a place before they can call it home?
It is a related mind set that thinks I should pay reparations for the sin of slavery to people who have never been slaves. Why do present day Arabs in that land have to have taken from them what generations of their fathers have given them? The law of the jungle says might makes right. I wish to live in a civilized world not a jungle.

wideguy
wideguy
  Bob
December 11, 2023 6:18 pm

So, give them back the herds of goats.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 6:27 pm

You mean muslim sex slaves (e.g. goats), right?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 9:40 pm

Hey, they could teach their wommins how to make ham sammiches.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 9:39 pm

Didn’t Ghengis Khas visit the area once upon a time?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  pyrrhus
December 11, 2023 6:23 pm

Bullshit. The land was stolen from Israel. They’ve taken it back. Fuck off and Die bitch

wideguy
wideguy
  Claude
December 11, 2023 6:15 pm

That’s complete BS. Populations in “Palestinian” territories have been growing quite rapidly in the last 23 years.

Diogenes' Dung
Diogenes' Dung
December 10, 2023 12:53 pm

Yeah, no.

During the last 70 years, plenty of playground pipsqeaks – Koreans, Vietnamese, Afghanis, Somalis and Lebanese to name a few, all lined up to slap Uncle Samantha’s giant, tucked tinkler into the dirt.

We’re a special kind of stupid bully.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Diogenes' Dung
December 10, 2023 1:03 pm

The point of modern war is to profit off the paraphernalia required for war.
Winning is irrelevant to the manufacturers and sellers of ammo.

Diogenes' Dung
Diogenes' Dung
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 1:19 pm

Just the point of modern war?

Surely those mostly peaceful, Pleistocene flint knappers never boosted production just before inciting tribal squabbles?

Who wins wars may be irrelevant to bankers, so far. Financiers of the WEF are going to find out there’s another point to war. Don’t get annihilated by encouraging merciless retribution from your enemies.

All bullies, sooner or later, get their just deserts, bankers included.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Diogenes' Dung
December 10, 2023 2:36 pm

“All bullies, sooner or later, get their just deserts, bankers included.”
pretty rare

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 3:17 pm

Not on the playground it isn’t…but bankers are protected by the “law”…

wideguy
wideguy
  pyrrhus
December 10, 2023 6:22 pm

Really, if you killed all the bankers, what would happen then?

I’ll tell you, in a free market protected by law, people would start banks. But, as with most of our “modern” economy,banks are heavily “regulated. So much so now that you could call them part of an evil mercantile system.

Diogenes' Dung
Diogenes' Dung
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 6:09 pm

Indeed, 200 years is a long time.

Andrew Jackson was the last fist to hoist bankers by their choke chain and pay off the national debt.

The pandemonium pendulum will be swinging much faster and way farther, soon.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 4:52 pm

Don’t forget the very profitable drug importation by CIA for big pharma and street sales.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Diogenes' Dung
December 10, 2023 1:41 pm

Those weren’t wars, they were advertisements for the new MIC product lines.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 9:43 pm

Kind of like beta testing?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Diogenes' Dung
December 10, 2023 2:35 pm

When the US actually tries to win a war, they firebomb and murder people in camps and brainwash and humiliate them and occupy them forever and send in people to rewrite all their books.

Diogenes' Dung
Diogenes' Dung
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 6:21 pm

Nigga, pleeze. US actually tries?

By your ‘actual’ metrics, the last war that the USA “won” was when Attorney ‘General’ Janet Reno blowtorched the evil Branch Davidians into a historical footnote.

You talkin Dresden, 80 years ago? 1945 US was buried long ago and nobody puts flowers on its grave.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Diogenes' Dung
December 11, 2023 9:50 pm

Imagine the world today had the US taken firm control in calling all the shots during the last year of WWII and the aftermath. Would Germany and Berlin have been divided? Would there have been a Cold War? Would Communism have flourished? Lots of what ifs might have come into play.

wideguy
wideguy
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 6:29 pm

Ha ha. The “International Rules of War” don’t atop aggressive nations from attacking and occupying other nations. Certain forms of government seem to lend themselves to starting wars of aggression.

Probably you think it was a good idea that the communists seized China, and that we allowed the communists to keep N. Korea?

Do you have any idea what the Japanese and Germans did in territory they seized and occupied? Or is that actually the people you meant, and you just slipped and wrote “US instead?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  wideguy
December 10, 2023 9:31 pm

I’m about half in agreement with you , except I think that the further back you go the more legitimate our foreign policy actions we’re and vice versa .Right now our government is every bit the evil clown show that almost everyone on this site seems to think its always been . Me, I’d call South Korea a success story , and from there forward you start to see US foreign policy devolve gradually .I’m usually not a “nuance ” guy but if the truth fits >>>

wideguy
wideguy
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 6:23 pm

South Korea was a success story, as was West Germany.
How much better for the people living in N. Korea if we hadn’t given their county to a Soviet picked communist dictator…

I see the real beginning of the rapid downward slide in the “Progressive Era”, when people like Theodore decided the U.S. should be an Empire. Of course the blindness to the Constitution started much sooner.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  wideguy
December 11, 2023 9:52 pm

Don’t forget LBJ’s “Great Society”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 10, 2023 12:56 pm

The land over there is polluted with the blood of millions because of the progeny of a lying usurer.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 10, 2023 1:45 pm

Illegals Can Fly Without Valid IDs

Randy Clark reported at Breitbart that migrants recently released by the Border Patrol waited to board flights leaving the region at the Tucson International Airport on Friday afternoon. They are traveling all over the country to settle.

They board flights without valid identification. They go through a “special” security screening line for migrants without proper identification.

Breitbart Texas watched it happen.
None of the immigrants have photo IDs. They were brought by NGOs who are complicit in the invasion of the United States.
If Americans want to fly, they need valid IDs such as a passport, but unvetted, anonymous people from around the world don’t need ID as the US engages in wars around the world.
This is not normal, but Obama allowed the same thing to go on.

Not a republicrat
Not a republicrat
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 8:09 pm

That’s because the real war is against the people of European decent- otherwise know as “whites”. HInt who is behind it- “J’s” aren’t “white”.

Fatman from Oz
Fatman from Oz
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 5:19 am

So what do you group Italians, Greeks, Serbs and others from the Balkans, as. Are they white or are they brown. Honest question.

49%mfer
49%mfer
  Fatman from Oz
December 11, 2023 2:11 pm

Here’s Professor Hopper to explain it to you…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  49%mfer
December 11, 2023 9:59 pm

Anthropologic Geneticists are getting stuff like this all figured out.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Fatman from Oz
December 11, 2023 9:53 pm

Not as brown as the Spanish speakers.

Htos1av
Htos1av
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 10:07 am

Correct! A “legal” genocide is being manufactured EVEN as we speak…

kevx
kevx
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 9:02 pm

impostors tend to kill those they pretend to be. 1st they were jews, now they want to be white. the writing is on the wall, so to speak.

wideguy
wideguy
  kevx
December 16, 2023 5:45 pm

“White” is such an amorphous term, nobody can define it.
Why not just say “people of the Aryan race”?

B_MC
B_MC
December 10, 2023 1:53 pm

The U.S. government has achieved a rare historical distinction: it stands revealed as a pipsqueak in Ukraine and a bully in Gaza.

Perhaps that’s why we are seeing more threats to US interests like this….

Venezuela Takes a Step Closer to War With US

Following Sunday’s referendum, Venezuela’s Maduro government de facto “annexes” the oil-rich Essequibo region. Guyana calls for help from friends, including US Southern Command. Military exercises are already under way…

Like most geopolitical flash points, the region affected, Essequibo (or Guayana Esequiba), boasts a wealth of energy and mineral resources. In 2015, a consortium of energy firms led by Exxon Mobil discovered huge deposits of oil in the region’s disputed waters — and what’s more of the sweet crude variety that is easiest to refine, commanding the highest price on the global market…

As Exxon has expanded its influence in the tiny country of Guyana, to such an extent that “it’s become hard to distinguish where the oil company ends and the government begins,” as Amy Westervelt reported for The Intercept in June, it was just a matter of time before US troops and military bases began arriving. The US and Guyana already signed an agreement in 2020 to undertake joint military patrols in the Essequibo region, ostensibly for “drug interdiction” and to provide “greater security” to the South American country.

(https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/12/venezuela-just-took-a-big-step-closer-to-war-with-the-us-just-as-washington-wanted.html)

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  B_MC
December 10, 2023 3:19 pm

And the US can’t really do much about it..it’s tied up elsewhere…Nice timing Maduro!

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 10, 2023 2:19 pm

” Russia has achieved its Special Military Operation’s objectives”
which ones?

Of those 8 demands from 2021, which have been met or appear to be imminent? Has NATO pulled back in any way?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Robert Gore
December 10, 2023 5:15 pm

1) they already had Crimea, that would be like fighting a war with mexico and saying america was winning and using ‘we still have Texas’ as proof.
2) they were supposed to protect the people of the Donbas, yet they can’t secure Donetsk in 2 years?
3) defeat Ukraine in the field is… where in their goals? Demilitarise means something different.

So let’s say Ukraine surrenders. Full on unconditional surrender. How would that lead to NATO accepting all the demands to walk back their forces, missiles, installations, kicking out the new guys, etc.?

Jdog
Jdog
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 12:07 am

The NAZI bastards are almost all dead. They have lost an entire generation, and the people living in Ukraine 50 years from now will be Russian and Polish, not Ukrainian. NATO and the US are a joke, they are sissy fagot militaries that could never fight a real battle against real men.
If the US and NATO thought they had any chance to defeat Russia, they would attack, but they know they would not do as well as the Ukrainians did. Ukraine is beaten like a dog. Now it is clean up, but even clean up in war is messy.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Robert Gore
December 10, 2023 8:32 pm

Putin smashed the bioweapon labs , a major objective.

" smashed the bioweapon labs"
" smashed the bioweapon labs"
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 12:25 pm

Never saw or read anything about that occurring, do tell please?

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 3:21 pm

Ukraine is on the verge of collapse, and the Russian military has never been stronger…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  pyrrhus
December 10, 2023 5:26 pm

you guys are nearly as high on your own supply as the Ukraine cheerleaders

Not a republicrat
Not a republicrat
  Anonymous
December 10, 2023 8:14 pm

I think it’s all a fake and gay war that has nothing to do with what they tell us it’s about. There is already a world government- has been since at least WWII. They just haven’t anounced it on TV yet.

Htos1av
Htos1av
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 10:09 am

The US MIC THINKS it rules the planet…

Wilbur
Wilbur
  Not a republicrat
December 11, 2023 10:03 pm

“They” are waiting for the reincarnation of Walter Cronkite.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
December 10, 2023 2:51 pm

When I grew up in the ’50s and 60s, there were no playground bullies…A couple of guys had a notion to be, but ran into tougher nice kids and were quickly disabused of their notions..Furthermore, the girls wouldn’t have anything to do with guys who weren’t nice to others…Of course, it was an all-white middle class suburb….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  pyrrhus
December 10, 2023 9:42 pm

I was a bully’s bully myself , just in the seventies instead .

k31
k31
  pyrrhus
December 10, 2023 11:26 pm

That’s how it was for me in the 70s and 80s. They weren’t always nice, but nobody got away with being a bully.

Paul
Paul
  pyrrhus
December 11, 2023 10:05 pm

” it was an all-white middle class suburb….”-was there a colored girl named Michelle in your neighborhood?

lamont canston
lamont canston
December 10, 2023 2:56 pm

Robert, how’s 4Ry going? I’m a small investor.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Robert Gore
December 11, 2023 10:07 pm

” but we could use some cash flow”-call Hunter.

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
December 10, 2023 3:06 pm

In 4th grade Chicago, twin brother and I were in a new school. He was surrounded by the bullies, and they started pushing him around. I hit the leader of the bullies with a Dick Butkus style tackle. He was still crying to the teachers two hours later. They never messed with us again. We were one of the handful of whites in a mostly Puerto Rican area.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 10, 2023 5:12 pm

You see where this leads to right ? You better. Remove the word antisemitism and replace it with any other target ; GONE !

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Htos1av
Htos1av
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 10:10 am

Every. Single. Time.

49%mfer
49%mfer
  Anonymous
December 11, 2023 2:16 pm
flash
flash
December 10, 2023 5:55 pm

Having been one myself, I know this causes lolbertz to dump in their depends, nevertheless the universal truth remains. Might makes right,always has always will. Tribe up of die.

49%mfer
49%mfer
December 10, 2023 9:31 pm

USA is the Scott Farkus of the world….

…there are many Ralphies.

bob sykes
bob sykes
December 11, 2023 8:54 am

There is no question about how and when the current Israeli-Palestinian war started. It was after WW II, when Britain allowed (connived) European Jews to invade Palestine, drive out and kill native Palestinians, and set up a European colony.

The solution to the war is to remove the European Jews from Palestine, and to reestablish an native Palestinian state.

By the way, for all those Christian Zionists out there, like Glenn Beck, the Jews are also attacking and driving out native Christians. Their goal is a Biblical Israel (Euphrates to Nile) free of Muslims and Christians, and free of Muslim and Christian Holy Sites.

Goat!
Goat!
  bob sykes
December 11, 2023 10:37 am

The zioxtians don’t care, because they are more jew than Christian. They would choose a jew any day over a Christian.

wideguy
wideguy
  bob sykes
December 14, 2023 3:19 pm

European Jews had been returning to the land of Israel since the end of WWI, when then British protectorate made them feel safe. When the protectorate ended, they decided they needed some government, so they created a new nation, and were attacked by all their neighbors the very next day.

You just have it completely backwards about who started the killing.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
December 11, 2023 9:12 am

Interesting comparison, Robert. Can’t say I disagree with anything. Have you finished your sequel yet?

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Robert Gore
December 11, 2023 2:07 pm

Great timing! I’m glad I asked.

Kim
Kim
December 12, 2023 5:19 am

Jews are the bully and they need the s++t beaten out of them permanently. 3000 years of genocide and if it wasn’t for “covid,” the reset, and the “vaccine,” so many would still not be aware of this infernal bully that needs to be done away with.