Why Car Payments Are Always a Bad Idea

Guest Post by Eric Peters

People used to actually buy new cars – as in paid for them, when they acquired them. Money and title changed hands. The car was theirs. Now people finance cars, which  – interestingly enough – is probably the main reason why very few people can afford to buy a new car.

Or a used one, for that matter.

Financing is a way to spend more than you can afford and that’s why every new car comes standard with features that used to be optional, back when people had to consider whether they could afford to buy things like air conditioning, power windows and automatic transmissions. Let alone climate control and heated seats. All very nice to have, if you don’t have to go into debt for years to have them.

Now you haven’t got a choice – because most people are willing to go into debt for years in order to have those things. It’s also why the government gets way with imposing all the things it “mandates” – that buyers have to pay for but which most of them could never come up with the money to pay for.

So they finance them – and that makes it all seem “affordable.”

It’a arguably one of the best tricks since the devil convinced most people he doesn’t exist.

The result is an unprecedented crisis of affordability. The average price paid for a new car has gone up about $15k over the course of about three years to nearly $50,000. The wheels that have been set in motion will not stop turning until the wheels come off this ride. The manufacturers – that is, the car companies – have oriented their business model around financing ever-more-expensive cars rather than offering affordable cars, their prices (and roster of equipment) kept in check by the ability of their customers to pay for them. The government is no longer restrained by the costs it imposes – including the ruinous costs of “electrification” – because serial debt-financing makes it seem “affordable.”

And – for a time – it worked. The duration of the typical new car loan more than doubled – from three years (this was back in the ’70s) to six-seven years today. Many people were able to convince themselves (with gentle help from the dealership’s finance department) that they could afford a debt (and interest) load that would have made people blanche, once upon a time.

To understand why, consider what the monthly payment for the typical $50,000 new car would be if it had to be paid over three rather than six-seven years. It would cost about $1,400 per month, not counting interest.

Probably not one in 1,000 Americans could afford that.

And yet, almost every American car buyer is persuaded they can afford it, by spreading those payments out over six-seven years.

In one sense, this may be true. In that – yes – the monthly payments are more manageable. But it doesn’t mean you’re paying less. It only means you’re paying longer – to own a depreciating appliance, which is what a car (however appealing) is. It is not like a house, which will almost always at least retain value – and usually increase in value. It is reasonable to speak of a home as an investment. It is preposterous to believe a car is one. It isn’t – anymore than a new washing machine or microwave oven is an investment. All of these are things bought to be used for a time and – inevitably – thrown away after a time.

A financially smart person does not “invest” in such things. He buys them.

The trouble – now – is being able to, courtesy of all the people who’ve bought into debt. It is literally not possible to buy a new economy car, for instance – because none such exist. They have been replaced by what are styled entry level cars and these cars all come standard with equipment that used to be extra-cost, back when people who knew they couldn’t afford air conditioning or power windows didn’t have to finance these things. People who could afford the extras bought them. But because they were once optional, only the people who could afford them bought them.

Their cost, at least, wasn’t imposed on everyone else.

Now, of course, it is. Also the cost of government, which most people seem unable to see now that everyone is obliged to pay for it.

Debt is like cancer in that eats away people’s financial security – including people who think they’re doing ok because they can “afford” a car they can only pay for if they sign up for payments for the next six-seven years. At the end of which they’ll have an appliance with a residual value of perhaps 40 percent of its original selling price.

An appliance that is probably about to cost them even more, too – as all that equipment is now six-seven years old and time is not kind to power everything (and now, LCD everything). How much is a smartphone you financed today worth three years from today.

Some might say we were better off when a wall phone cost $30 and lasted for decades – and an economy car may not not have had power everything, air bags or AC but it was paid for after three years.

Or maybe even on the day you bought it.

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24 Comments
Eddy O
Eddy O
March 4, 2024 7:22 pm

I haven’t owned a car since 2012. Can you imagine the money I’ve saved? No car payment, no depreciation, no insurance, no maintenance, no fuel. Where I live I can walk to all stores, services and entertainment. I average about $15 monthly on transportation. In January I spent $13.50 and in February in $12.50.

Old Red
Old Red
  Eddy O
March 4, 2024 7:41 pm

Try that in the rural area I live.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Eddy O
March 4, 2024 8:38 pm

And when TSHTF you’ll be dead in a day. Good luck with that.

Eddy O
Eddy O
  The Central Scrutinizer
March 4, 2024 9:23 pm

Seeing as how I don’t live in the USSA or the northern hemisphere……..I have a better chance than you.

Cricket
Cricket
  Eddy O
March 4, 2024 9:38 pm

SRSLY? You don’t even own a car? Then why comment at all? Unless you’re in NA or another western society, TBP isn’t for you.

I miss the days on TBP when AWD, Stucky or HSF would set you straight. The best times on TBP have always been when the sh*t throwing monkeys show up, or at least we get reminded of The Honey Badger.

ASIG
ASIG
  Cricket
March 4, 2024 10:07 pm

Let’s not forget about Smokey.

Eddy O
Eddy O
  Cricket
March 5, 2024 4:44 pm

Why comment about my comment? The last time I checked, the word is spelled ‘seriously’. Now I seriously could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Eddy O
March 5, 2024 6:28 pm

You’re the only one taking you serious around here.

Old Red
Old Red
March 4, 2024 7:40 pm

Thus the advent of “gap insurance” your auto is way less than you paid for it the second you drive it off the lot.

James
James
March 4, 2024 8:09 pm

I want that 77Trans Am in add,can pay cash,in fact,I will buy 10 of them!

Old Red
Old Red
  James
March 5, 2024 6:57 am

1961 409 Chevy Bubble is my dream car. Hard to find though, that body style was only tooled one year, it was the between fins and no fins.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Old Red
March 5, 2024 9:42 am
The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Old Red
March 6, 2024 4:52 am

Yeah. I had a bubble car once!

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Htos1av
Htos1av
  James
March 5, 2024 5:15 pm

ROGER THAT!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 4, 2024 8:34 pm

Financing or even driving a new vehicle is stupid. Too much bullshit on the dash. I don’t need automatic braking, parallel parking assistance, a big screen and all the other bullshit. They are more difficult to work on, not as reliable and they lose value as soon as you leave the lot. I have a bulletproof 20 year old duramax diesel 3500 4×4 with vinyl floors, crank windows and manual locks. Manual transfer case shifter on the floor. 78k miles on professionally rebuilt motor with all the upgrades. I got about 20k in the truck. I wouldn’t want a new truck they suck plus they’re almost 100 grand. Buying new vehicles is like douchebaggy to me. Next buy will be a fully mechanical 4×4 truck no electronic bullshit in case of emp.

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
March 4, 2024 10:20 pm

I recently found the pink slip from the last new vehicle I bought, 2008 Frontier, in my workdesk. $18000 It left our stable last summer with 172K miles on it. If it didn’t live in the rust belt I’d still be driving it. You can’t even get a used truck under 100k miles now for $18k.

After the frontier we quit buying new, paid cash, and cleared all out other debts. It’s cool how little money it takes to live when you have no debt and don’t give a shit about the Jones’s.

Yahsure
Yahsure
March 4, 2024 10:34 pm

My dad told me that debt helped drive him to go to work. Debt enabled him to drive a nice car and live in a house. When they start UBI it will damage people like beer flu stimi checks have. This utopian thinking will lead to suicides and people becoming drunks and drug addicts. Yeah, it was different when a new truck was under ten grand.

well_Inever
well_Inever
March 5, 2024 3:38 am

In todays environment it doesn’t make sense to go into debt for a new vehicle. The new vehicles today are crap and will bankrupt you with repair bills.

When I bought my truck I think it made sense. I bought a new 2011 Tacoma 4 wheel drive with a 5 speed anti-theft device in early 2012. It’s as basic as you can get. I paid a little over 18 for it with a 2 percent 4 year loan. That’s less than the rate of inflation. Regardless I paid it off in 3 years. I know it’s been taken care of since I’m the only owner. I still have it and it purrs like a kitten with 100,000 miles on it. The only money I put into it was for regular maintenance.

It’ll last me until I go to paradise.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
March 5, 2024 5:40 am

I can’t tell you how many times people told us that with the birth of the 3rd child it would be time for a huge SUV or a minivan. I just smiled and told them “we’ll see”. Got 3 car seats that were extra narrow and designed to fit 3 across and fit them all into the Honda Civic. Got replacement Honda Civic for cash from a couple on craigslist for $10K without being murdered. I love that thing, but it’s really just a moving appliance, now with a bunch of scratches from the tricycle hitting it while parked in the driveway, but that doesn’t bother me.

Melty
Melty
March 5, 2024 7:38 am

Splurged last month for a 2009 Vette. Paid cash with 50K on the ODO. Spent $800 servicing changing all the fluids. Previous owner kept in a garage and almost perfect body and interior. Haven’t had a car loan in 9 years nor ever again.

Perfect Stranger
Perfect Stranger
March 5, 2024 7:52 am

The author and Dave Ramsey are both not being completely forthright when they discuss the car as a depreciating asset issue. They are 95% correct, and the advice is probably good for 99% of the general public.

However, those of us in the collector and classic car world know better. There are so many examples that fly in the face of their mostly correct generalization that I wouldn’t have room to type them all out here.

Ferrari 250 GTO
AC Cobra (Shelby)
Any 1965-1970 Mustang Fastback
Early Corvettes
Ford GT
Hemi Cuda’

A few small examples spanning the gamut of affordability. This is the problem of speaking in absolutes, because my short list of vehicles absolutely destroy the credibility of this author since he used absolute language in his attempt to convey an otherwise good and mostly true point.

To be fair, if these people did admit what I am saying, it would likely lead people into this realm that do not belong here – looking to become speculators and make money.

Htos1av
Htos1av
  Perfect Stranger
March 5, 2024 5:20 pm

1963 Impala coupe, 50th anniversary edition Chevy, in Granada gold paint. 283/powerglide combo, vacuum operated trunk/locks, a/c upgrades, ONLY “change” is two seats/shifter from a ’68 Camaro.
For $1000 in 1982.
Her name is Bunny. 🙂

Kennyboy
Kennyboy
March 5, 2024 10:51 am

BUYING “ANYTHING” BY “CREDIT” IS A BAD IDEA FOLKS…ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO THE “BANKOHOLIC”S”….AWAKEN FOLKS!!!

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Kennyboy
March 5, 2024 9:08 pm

Good luck not going into debt. Almost everyone does and then spends the better part of thier life getting out of it.