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Must Watch: Ron Paul Squares Off Against MSNBC’s Alex Wagner in Explosive Interview

by Noah Rothman | 1:43 pm, September 5th, 2013

Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) joined MSNBC’s Alex Wagner on Thursday for a wide-ranging and contentious interview focused on President Barack Obama’s push for American intervention in the Syrian civil war. What followed was a tense and heated exchange between the two ideologically unaligned figures about the need for intervention in Syria, American foreign policy in general, and Paul’s speaking before “anti-Semitic” groups.

Wagner opened by asking about a recent interview Paul conducted with Wikileaks founder Julian Assange on his web-based interview program, but the conversation quickly turned to the push for intervention in Syria.

Paul questioned the “so-called gas deaths” in Syria supposedly ordered by President Bashar al-Assad and suggested that pro-intervention advocates have absolved the rebel factions fighting against Assad of any malfeasance.

“Do you really think President Obama is looking for a reason to go to war in Syria,” Wagner asked She noted that the president has been reluctant to go to war.

“I think the pressure comes from the people around him,” Paul said. “It might be contradicting some of his self-instincts.”

Paul said that the leadership of both the Democratic and Republican Parties in Congress are behind Syrian intervention in opposition to rank-and-file opinion.

“I think there’s a historic event going on here and if this vote is won, that is defeat the request to have a more military approach to Syria, I think it’ll be historic,” Paul said. He noted that such a defeat would be an unusual alignment of the “libertarian Republicans” and the “progressive Democrats.”

Wagner appeared to agree with Paul but countered his assertion by saying that it was the president’s push for an unpopular war in Congress which united Democrats and Republicans against him. “Do you not applaud the president for making that decision?” Wagner asked.

Paul did not. He said that the president came under pressure and did not seek Congressional authority out of deference to the Constitution.

“In terms of surveillance, how confident are you that we are seeing the end of what has been termed the American empire in terms of a broad overreach and surveillance of Americans citizens” Wagner asked.

“We haven’t’ seen the end of it,” Paul replied. “Tyrants and empires cling desperately, and their best weapon is lying.”

Paul said the “people are waking up” and he was encouraged by a close vote in the House in which the Amash/Conyers Amendment to scale back the powers of the National Security Agency was narrowly defeated.

Paul added that this problem would also be solved if the “conspiracy” of the American government to “run all these wars” was ended and American troops came home.

“We haven’t proven any lies yet from this administration,” Paul said. “But believe me, there’s going to be found many, many deceptions.”

Wagner took issue with this statement. “Don’t you think this is sort of irresponsible?” she asked.

Paul went on to say that there is little proof to suggest that Assad is behind the use of chemical weapons in Syria. “Quite frankly, if they were honest with us – some are, some of the neo-cons are more honest, Tehran is – this is all to do with getting Iran and taking that country over, and we’ve been doing that since 1953,” Paul asserted.

Wagner asked Paul about his speech coming up at the Fatima Center, which she said has been accused of being an anti-Semitic organization. Asked if he would reconsider this speech, Paul said “no.”

Wagner cited some of the items in that group’s charter that led some to believe the organization is anti-Semitic. “I have nothing to do with that,” Paul said. “Sounds to me like you have me on here to bash Catholics.”

“There have been a lot of folks that have been involved with your campaign, supporters, newsletters that have been accredited to you that have strong anti-Semitic, racist undertones,” Wagner said.

Paul said that he has been dealing with accusations like these his whole political career. “When people disagree with your ideas they have to destroy your character,” Paul insisted.”

  1. Wyoming Paul says:

    Boy he was pissed at that bitch. “Sounds like you’re bashing catholics” Priceless!

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    5th September 2013 at 3:00 pm

  2. harry p. says:

    “We haven’t seen any lies from this administration.” what a hum-dinger from that dumb skank.

    what a fucking twunt, congress should be thankful that B. Hussein allowed them to vote on it? All hail the Oreo in Chief.


    RP did look genuinely pissed, I almost expected him to call her a stupid bitch.

    I am sure she got to where she is because of her “intelligence” and has nothing to do with her lack of a gag reflex.

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    5th September 2013 at 3:53 pm

  3. Cynical30 says:

    I hope I have Uncle Ron’s energy when I’m his age.

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    5th September 2013 at 3:54 pm

  4. SSS says:

    Actually, I think that was a pretty good exchange between Paul and Wagner.

    Yes, Wagner tried to hang some anti-Semitic label on Paul (as have many others in the past), and he did get ticked and fired back at her under the First Amendment umbrella he so dearly embraces. All in all, though, it was an interesting discussion, and she did at least listen to what he said and give him a fair amount of time on the show to explain some of his views.

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    5th September 2013 at 4:14 pm

  5. Bostonbob says:

    It really sounded like he wanted to bitch-slap her, but was holding his temper.

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    5th September 2013 at 4:33 pm

  6. Hope@ZeroKelvin says:

    Alex Wagner is just part of the clot of lickspittles and toadies that infest MSNBC. I commend Ron Paul for trying to talk some sense into the MSNBC crowd – a Don Quixote quest if there ever was one.

    I was waiting for Ron Paul to say, “Alex, you ignorant slut”, ala SNL, but he is too much of a gentleman to do so.

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    5th September 2013 at 4:45 pm

  7. Administrator says:

    Wagner grew up in Washington, DC, attended Woodrow Wilson High School, and attended Brown University in 1999. Her mother, Tin Swe Thant, is an immigrant from Rangoon, Burma. Her father, Carl Wagner, is from Iowa and of German and Irish descent, and is a prominent Democratic Party political consultant. Wagner was raised Roman Catholic, but doesn’t follow the faith any longer.

    Wagner has worked as the cultural correspondent for the Center for American Progress.

    She moved to The Huffington Post after it was acquired by AOL.

    She has described herself as progressive and believes that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution should be repealed.

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    5th September 2013 at 4:56 pm

  8. Steve Hogan says:

    Is it any wonder that MSNBC’s ratings are in the toilet? Very few thinking people have the stomach to watch these propagandists at work, while the other 90% are too busy watching soap operas and reality TV.

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    5th September 2013 at 5:54 pm

  9. SSS says:

    “She has described herself as progressive and believes that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution should be repealed.”
    —-Admin comment on Alex Wagner

    Damn, she IS liberal. But consider this. Her exchange with Dr. Paul was by and large mostly civil. Why? It’s probably because progressives are sending a message to their messengers, as in, “Hey, we need to listen to this guy. He has some good ideas. We need to listen to him.”

    I really think that’s happening out there, because even Wagner acknowledged in the interview that Paul was drawing a big audience among the young.

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    5th September 2013 at 6:24 pm

  10. Hope@ZeroKelvin says:


    Thanks for the bio.

    Alex Wagner has NEVER stepped out of her little libtard proglodyte bubble. Betcha $1000 she doesn’t even know ANY conservatives or libertarians.

    Yup, I’ll bet another $1000 that she considers herself open minded, tolerant, open to new ideas and well educated. HAHAHAHA.

    I’d love to see her mano e mano against someone like Ann Barnhardt. Now, THAT would be a dynamite interview.

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    5th September 2013 at 6:35 pm

  11. card802 says:

    Wagner would never get a word in against Barnhardt, then her head would explode.

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    5th September 2013 at 7:17 pm

  12. ragman says:

    So Wagner, you think the Second should be repealed? Come to my little hacienda, bring a shitload of your fucking liberal friends and just try to repeal my right to protect myself and my family. Card: Barnhardt would blow her sorry shit away wif her pink AR.

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    5th September 2013 at 7:39 pm

  13. archie says:

    ron paul puts up with a lot of nonsense in the brain dead media. i don’t know how he does it. i admire him for it. and yet he is the opposite of someone like thomas sowell who has refused to go on opposition television for many decades now. i admire him also. what is depressing to me is that the two of them are getting rather long in the tooth.

    post script: after listening to this woman, i wonder who in their right mind would marry her?

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    5th September 2013 at 8:13 pm

  14. ecliptix543 says:

    Fuck it. I’ll marry the bitch. It’s the only way I’ll ever get decent insurance and if I play my cards right, I can take half her shit when I catch her blowing Valerie Jarrett’s strap-on cock & balls.

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    5th September 2013 at 11:16 pm

  15. Thirteener says:

    In the words of Dan Aykroyd…”Alex, you ignorant slut!” “but don’t you think that he (Obama) should be given credit for going to congress on this?!

    uh…NO dumbass…it is what he is required to do…read the CONSTITUTION!

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    5th September 2013 at 11:44 pm

  16. Methodical Man says:

    Sharp as a tack vs. dumb as brick.

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    5th September 2013 at 1:05 am

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