VOTING IS MEANINGLESS

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Stucky
Stucky
March 22, 2014 10:21 am

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Stucky
Stucky
March 22, 2014 10:24 am

What they want you to believe
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The Reality
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The Carlin Solution
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AWD
AWD
March 22, 2014 10:34 am

‘Forward (™), the Lightbringer Brigade!’
Was there a Democrat dismay’d?
Not tho’ the media reported
The President had blunder’d;
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to vote and die (and then vote again):
Onto the nearest golf course
Rode Barack Obama

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
March 22, 2014 10:47 am

I vote just to cancel out my brother. So it’s personal.

sensetti
sensetti
March 22, 2014 10:56 am

If you vote, Vote Conservative. Why? Because if you find yourself voting on the same side as the leadership of the Free Shit Army you are fucked up beyond repair by definition.

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So which one of you votes with Elijah Cummings, Big Al and Ole Jackson Lee, coming out of hiding, explain yourself.

AWD
AWD
March 22, 2014 11:57 am

Voting isn’t meaningless to the FSA, all 112 million of ’em, it’s what they’re paid to do…

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Thinker
Thinker
March 22, 2014 12:42 pm

Sorry, I know a lot of people here think voting is useless.

My point of view is that voting is a right, just like owning guns, being free to speak, being able to have legal counsel. The minute you give up ANY right, whether you intend to ever “use” it or not, is the minute they can easily take it away from you.

So I vote, even if it doesn’t really count. I vote for third parties, I vote for people who don’t have a chance to win (like Ron Paul), but I cast a damn vote.

ss
ss
March 22, 2014 12:44 pm

There’s only ONE way to determine if voting is truly meaningless and that’s if a majority of citizens (most of whom CLAIM to have a VERY low opinion of Congress) actually tried to replace all democrats AND republicans with independent candidates not owned by big money special interests. This would mean working hard to find candidates among our own families and friends willing to run as “citizen-legislators” and having them register as Write-In candidates in their state. 8 states currently prohibit this.

But of course this is a pipe dream because most citizens won’t make the effort to do this because most don’t really want reform – and this ISN’T just those who receive a monthly government check but also too many others who work for big industries or receive some kind of financial aid or tax breaks from government for their business. So citizens keep re-electing the same politicians controlled by the same big money special interests whose opposition to reforms is destroying the middle class and our economy despite stock market gains which don’t benefit most. Self-destruction at its worst.

Finally if one believes economic collapse is imminent or in the very near future, any consideration of reform is pointless.

bb
bb
March 22, 2014 1:02 pm

Voting is meaningless .I say bullshit .Just look at the last two elections.If the majority of white conservatives would have voted Obama would not be in the Whitehouse.The truth is most people are just to damn lazy.I don’t know and I don’t care gets you Obama

bb
bb
March 22, 2014 1:10 pm

What party in in favor of
1.gun control.
2.abortion and homosexuality
3.open borders
4.multiculturalism and diversity.
5.affirmative action
6.Openly hates Christians and Christianity
7.openly supports criminals of all kinds
I could go on and on .You say your vote doesn’t matter .I say bullshit.You vote matters now more then ever.

bb
bb
March 22, 2014 1:18 pm

A lot of you worshiper George Carlin just like you do Ron Paul .Get over yout own blindness.These men are not great ,nor really good and certainly didn’t save anybody from any thing.Third parties will not work ,it only takes away from republicans.Some of you call me an idiot but never see own idiocy.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
March 22, 2014 1:52 pm

By not voting, I maintain a clear conscience.

ss
ss
March 22, 2014 3:47 pm

OK. Lets truly go for the “throat” on this topic. No matter what politicians are elected from either party, they are ALL controlled by big money special interests – especially the big banks. So arguing over whether democrats or republicans are better is nothing but a distraction from the truth – that very wealthy people (especially those with last names beginning with the letter “R” and some others largely run the show. Politicians are nothing more than puppets and democracy is a charade.

If most citizens want to remain financial slaves, then keep re-electing democrats and republicans and most will remain slaves. Of course independent candidates (if voters would elect them) can be corrupted too. But independents will never get in to even start the process of real reform because voters are uninformed and too easily manipulated and controlled by those at the top using the media. Divide the clueless masses to conquer them. The big bankers and very wealthy people who have the most influence and control have nothing to fear since it’s so easy to keep most citizens under their thumb.

MargaretThatcherNaked
MargaretThatcherNaked
March 22, 2014 8:31 pm

Thinker, you are wrong.

If a right can be taken away, it was never a “right” to start with. It was a gift, a privilege or what have you.

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
March 22, 2014 9:28 pm

“Rights”, as declared in the Constitution and by hopeful founders and politicians and even private citizens are all a crock of shit.

There are no “natural rights”. All men are not created equal. Blah! Blah! Blah!

Take all those “natural rights” and stuff them up you ass.

“Rights” are what you fight for, die for, and sometimes win a few, sometimes loose all of them. “Rights” are what you wish for whether it’s voting, free speech, right to carry a gun, pee on your neighbor’s lawn —– whatever the hell else — must be thought out, articulated, fought for, died for and won by whatever means you wish to employ.

Right have to be defined and defended at all times, otherwise, human nature (greed, lust, avarice, selfishness and just plain evil) will eat up “rights” and “freedom” in a jiffy.

Remember that. We can defend rights only one way. Refuse to accept any situation that limits what is generally accepted as a “right” (when your actions do not adversely affect others) and bloody be prepared to die for it. Otherwise, so called “rights” will be nibbled away, little piece at a time, until there are none left.

Do I think the Amerikans now herded into welfare groups and fast loosing ground due to inflation (that they do not understand at all) will stand up and be counted? Phooey. As long as their Free Shit flows, they could care less about the higher goals of humanity.

My hope for the human race shrinks week by week.

MA

Jackson, saying "Back to You" bb,
Jackson, saying "Back to You" bb,
March 22, 2014 9:38 pm

OK, bb, if RON PAULl, a man who’ve I’ve always thought has been both a principled and patriotic politician, is, according to you neither “great, nor really good,” which politicians do you admire and why?

No Shit Sherlock
No Shit Sherlock
March 22, 2014 11:33 pm

Iska Waran, you say that you just vote to cancel out your brother.

I vote just to cancel out my wife’s vote…….

And as for my wife,
She’s as pleasant as the morning,
And as refreshing as the rain,
Sadly it’s a pity that she’s such a scatterbrain.
While her smile is so delightful,
Talking politics she’s just insane,
And when she votes it’s ———-,
She is such a scatterbrain.

bb
bb
March 23, 2014 12:23 am

Jackson ,none of them

Jackson
Jackson
March 23, 2014 12:51 am

“None of them.” Don’t weasel on me, bb.
Here are a few now and then choices.
Now: President Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Diane Feinstein… all Democrats.
Now: John McCain, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Lindsay Graham… all Republicans.
Then: Lincoln, Wilson, TR, FDR, HST, and the Bushes.
Then: Tyler, Cleveland, Harding, Coolidge, and Eisenhower.

Some on this site say that you, bb, don’t have a brain.
Can you prove ’em wrong?
Tell us TBP readers why one or more from both the now and then categories are politicians you admire.

Or, is it true, as a few claim, that you have a mouth and no brains?

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
March 23, 2014 1:03 am

MuckAbout says:

There are no “natural rights”.
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I disagree. We all have a natural right to take a shit and to piss. No government decree can deprive us of either. A baby also has a natural right to cry.

flash
flash
March 23, 2014 7:49 am

No Shit Sherlock @ 11:33 …and this is why votes should be limited to one per couple.

The long version…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igbBItLemsM

flash
flash
March 23, 2014 7:51 am

rock that vote..

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flash
flash
March 23, 2014 8:10 am

The Republican establishment , which is the G-D Republican party rabidly supports all 7 of BB’s bullshit talking points (see BB 1:10 pm ) and only a complete idiot would continue to support a nation party that has so undermined the limited government principles to they supposedly adhere.

Need proof?There’s plenty..all one need to is look.

flash
flash
March 23, 2014 8:14 am

rock that vote, they said.

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Persnickety
Persnickety
March 23, 2014 10:51 am

I’ve started to see references to TINVOWOOT among the TANSTAAFL crowd. Hopefully you know the latter. The former: “there is no voting our way out of this”.

flash
flash
March 23, 2014 1:06 pm

persnickety, for those who don’t.

“Gospodin,” he said presently, “you used an odd word earlier–odd to me, I mean…”

“Oh, ‘tanstaafl.’ Means ~There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.’ And isn’t,” I added, pointing to a FREE LUNCH sign across room, “or these drinks would cost half as much. Was reminding her that anything free costs twice as much in long run or turns out worthless.”

“An interesting philosophy.”

“Not philosophy, fact. One way or other, what you get, you pay for.”

From The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, by Robert Heinlein.
Published by GP Putnam in 1966

And ,you will always get exactly what you vote for …

“In contrast, the selection of government rulers by means of popular elections makes it nearly impossible that a good or harmless person could ever rise to the top. Prime ministers and presidents are selected for their proven efficiency as morally uninhibited demagogues. Thus, democracy virtually assures that only bad and dangerous men will ever rise to the top of government.”
Hans Heramn Hoppe

“Politicians,” he notes with his characteristic wit, “seldom if ever get [into public office] by merit alone, at least in democratic states. Sometimes, to be sure, it happens, but only by a kind of miracle. They are chosen normally for quite different reasons, the chief of which is simply their power to impress and enchant the intellectually underprivileged….Will any of them venture to tell the plain truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about the situation of the country, foreign or domestic? Will any of them refrain from promises that he knows he can’t fulfill — that no human being could fulfill? Will any of them utter a word, however obvious, that will alarm or alienate any of the huge pack of morons who cluster at the public trough, wallowing in the pap that grows thinner and thinner, hoping against hope? Answer: may be for a few weeks at the start…. But not after the issue is fairly joined, and the struggle is on in earnest…. They will all promise every man, woman and child in the country whatever he, she or it wants. They’ll all be roving the land looking for chances to make the rich poor, to remedy the irremediable, to succor the unsuccorable, to unscramble the unscrambleable, to dephlogisticate the undephlogisticable. They will all be curing warts by saying words over them, and paying off the national debt with money no one will have to earn. When one of them demonstrates that twice two is five, another will prove that it is six, six and a half, ten, twenty, n. In brief, they will divest themselves from their character as sensible, candid and truthful men, and simply become candidates for office, bent only on collaring votes. They will all know by then, even supposing that some of them don’t know it now, that votes are collared under democracy, not by talking sense but by talking nonsense, and they will apply themselves to the job with a hearty yo-heave-ho. Most of them, before the uproar is over, will actually convince themselves. The winner will be whoever promises the most with the least probability of delivering anything.” H.L. Menken

How the Worst Rise to the Top

flash
flash
March 23, 2014 1:12 pm

Really, can any spectacle be more ridiculous than the Party of Stupid mooning on about re-taking America?

Time to Take the “Boston” Out of Boston Tea Party
Scott Lazarowitz
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The Massachusetts state Republican Party had its hackathon yesterday and decided, not unexpectedly, to nominate the same GOP nominee from 2010 for governor, Charlie Baker. The “Tea Party” candidate, Mark Fisher, didn’t receive the 15% support of delegates needed to get his name on the primary ballot in September. Fisher got only 14.8%, reason enough to cordially lock him out. Yes, the GOP is a private organization and has every right to make its own rules. As the autocratic state GOP chairwoman Kirsten Hughes sternly remarked, “14.765 is not 15 percent.” Humph!

So it’s just another example of yet another Massachusetts election featuring not only Statist A vs. Statist B, but Democrat vs. Democrat Lite, Charlie Half-Baker.

And this reflects the national trend of Establishment Republicans sniffing their noses at “Tea Party” challengers. As Mitch McConnell yapped recently, referring to Tea Party challengers, “I think we are going to crush them everywhere … I don’t think they are going to have a single nominee anywhere in the country.” Humph!

You see, Establishment statist types love power, and that means they really don’t want to reduce deficit spending or even permanently cut or eliminate taxes. Another problem with both the Establishment and the Tea Party types is their love for war and militarism, and their social fascism, such as in empowering the State to decide who may and who may not get married (or divorced!), empowering the State to put “God back into public schools,” etc.

But in People’s Republic of Massachusetts, a state in which 70% of the people voted against repealing the state income tax, it really is time to take the “Boston” out of Boston Tea Party.
8:44 am on March 23, 2014

Time to Take the “Boston” Out of Boston Tea Party

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
March 23, 2014 1:37 pm

Uber Israel Firster “Nuke Iran” evil billionaire Sheldon Adelson is holding a contest to see which republican will fellate Israel the most:

Sheldon Adelson plans VIP dinner for Jeb Bush at GOP gathering in Vegas

Former Florida governor Jeb Bush will get top billing when he and other potential 2016 presidential candidates join billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson for an exclusive Republican gathering next week in Las Vegas.

Bush, who is quietly exploring a run for the White House, will be the featured speaker at an exclusive VIP dinner on Thursday hosted by Adelson and his wife, Miriam, at his company’s private airplane hangar at Las Vegas Macarran International Airport, according to a draft itinerary obtained by The Washington Post. The Adelsons’ dinner for Bush will kick off the Republican Jewish Coalition’s four-day spring leadership meeting, during which politicians and major GOP donors will mingle at golf and poker tournaments, as well as in political strategy sessions.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and former U.N. ambassador John Bolton will address the group during its meeting on Saturday morning, while Ohio Gov. John Kasich is to speak at a luncheon that day. The gathering is being held at the Venetian Resort and Hotel, a glamorous property built by Las Vegas Sands Corp., the casino and hospitality company that Adelson runs.
For potential presidential candidates, getting to know Adelson is critical. During the 2012 presidential campaign, Adelson established himself as perhaps the most influential Republican fundraiser by spending tens of millions of dollars to fund super PACs. He first supported former House speaker Newt Gingrich, but later backed the eventual nominee, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, and even traveled to Israel with Romney ahead of the Republican National Convention.
Adelson sits on the RJC’s board along with a number of other prominent Republican fundraisers and operatives, including private equity executive Lewis Eisenberg, former party chairman Ken Mehlman, lobbyist Wayne Berman and former ambassador Sam Fox.
At next week’s gathering, former vice president Dick Cheney will address the gala dinner on Saturday evening, where he will be introduced by Rep. Billy Long (R-Mo.). Cheney will also participate in a private discussion and photo opportunity session that afternoon with RJC’s leaders, as will Walker and Kasich.
A number of member of Congress and other Republican leaders also are scheduled to speak. Rep. Sean Duffy (Wis.), a rising star in the Republican Party, will host a “late night dessert reception” for young leaders after the Cheney dinner.

Rep. Cory Gardner, another GOP star, who recently announced he would challenge Sen. Mark Udall (D) in Colorado this year, will moderate a breakfast session on Sunday titled, “Debating the Lessons of 2012 and the Current Path Forward for the GOP.” And Ari Fleischer, a former White House press secretary under President George W. Bush, will lead a strategy workshop on “Talking the Talk – How to Sell our Ideas to Impact and Influence Others.”

bb
bb
March 23, 2014 4:30 pm

Jackson ,none of the presidents of the last 40.years .
Flash ,are you out of your damn mind !!!!! The democrats are lowest damn scum on this planet.TraitorsOf the mmost vile kind.Republicans aren’t much better but at least they don’t hate the country.

VietVet
VietVet
March 23, 2014 6:37 pm

@Thinker:

I agree with you completely, the right to vote is most definitely yours. However, there was a time in our Constitutional Republic where you had to be a “property owner” to vote.

But – the basic premise is also that if I have the right to vote; I also have the right to withhold that vote. Revoke my consent to govern – I do not choose to duly recognize the existing leadership.

Such as the word implies. The rights you have go both directions; The 2nd Amendment is supposed to guarantee your right to defend your life. This is the ONLY Amendment that shoots back.

These days casting your vote is about two wolves and a sheep voting for what’s for dinner.

Not going to be pretty

Persnickety
Persnickety
March 23, 2014 9:16 pm

I really can’t tell any more, which “bb” is the genuine incoherent rambling geezer, and which “bb”s are the doppelgangers.

bb
bb
March 23, 2014 10:00 pm

Persnick, I you ever read some shit you write ?Well have You? Maybe your the incoherent
Dumbass and I am not a geezer .I am told by a lot of black women that I am very handsome for my age .A couple months ago a black gal ask me to.marry her .What do you think about that ?

El Gordo
El Gordo
March 23, 2014 10:15 pm

BB, if Persnick is a millennial, then you at 50 would appear to be an old geezer.

One of the ladies here warned you last time that perhaps those black babes see the thickness of your big wallet when they ask you to marry them. I would not do it because then you couldn’t attend Billy’s Oktoberfest celebration.

You better find out first how many kids she has; those ‘nephews’ of hers may be your responsibility after the wedding. Oh, and wait ’til baby daddy start hitting you up for some beer money. Maybe he start camping out in your living room at evening and then your bedroom while you out working.

Persnickety
Persnickety
March 24, 2014 12:03 am

I’m an X’er… unlike Jim there’s no controversy about my X’er status… closer to Millennial than Boomer.

bb lately reminds me of the town drunk from Blazing Saddles.

“reverend!!!”

flash
flash
March 24, 2014 5:39 am

bb, thanks for the laugh.