ON CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Guest Post by Hardscrabble Farmer

“In many nations, rational people end up believing crazy things, including (false) conspiracy theories. Those crazy thoughts can lead to violence, including terrorism. Many terrorist acts have been fueled by false conspiracy theories, and there is a good argument that some such acts would not have occurred in the absence of such theories. The key point—and, in a way, the most puzzling and disturbing one—is that the crazy thoughts are often held by people who are not crazy at all.”

Cass Sunstein- White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs

If you don’t know who Cass Sunstein is, or what he does now would be a good time to do some research. Not only because of his position with the White House and the power that entails, but because he understands quite clearly what problems are posed by people who, in his own words are, “…neither ignorant, not ill-educated. On the contrary they can be spectacularly well informed…”

Conspiracy theories are, in short, the belief that others conspire in secret to commit criminal acts. They do, no secret there. In fact the majority of prisoners in Federal Penitentiaries are serving time not for a specific crime, but for conspiracy to commit a felony, more simply discussing their intentions with another person in secret. It must be difficult indeed to simultaneously prosecute large numbers of people for the very activity that you are assigned to debunk and then somehow explain to people that it’s dangerous to believe in them. Yes, yes, you can imagine them saying, other people do engage in conspiracies, but we never would and you’d have to be crazy to even consider it.

Point taken, Mr. Sunstein.

Prior to the advent of the Internet there were few places where people could openly engage in any discussion of the misgivings they had about certain events. Mailing lists, fringe publications, but no open forum for expressing doubt and discovering the fundamental and underlying reasons behind such thoughts. Mr. Sunstein has often argued that the reason most people believe in conspiracy theories is because it makes them feel safe, a notion that is as hard to believe as the one that says the government would never engage in a conspiracy. If anything, the dawning realization that those entrusted to care for and protect you are engaged in a pattern of behaviors that are not only dangerous, but wantonly destructive to the very values and beliefs we hold most dear. To believe in a conspiracy committed by a government that is powerful, that is actively spying on it’s own people without legal justification and that appears immune to the law is not reassuring or comforting, it is terrifying. It is also, based on what we actually know for a fact, common sense

Let’s begin by covering a few basics-

Operation Northwoods

In 1962 the Department of Defense acting in cooperation with the Joint Chiefs of Staff submitted a paper detailing covert operation by either the CIA or other Government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against innocent American civilians, specifically to either hijack US commercial aircraft, shoot down commercial aircraft, attacks and kill US soldiers at Guantanamo or an attack on the Organization of American States with the intent of blaming the actions on Cuba in order to destabilize or overturn the government. These plans were signed and submitted by a host of top ranking US Military officials including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Lemnitzer and submitted to the Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara who would later play a large role in the US war in Viet Nam.

None of the people involved in the research, planning, drafting or submission of this authorized government conspiracy was ever charged with a crime or held accountable. In fact the chief defense has always been that it was rejected by then President John F Kennedy, rendering further discussion null and void. Think about it for a moment and decide for yourself what the implications of such a plan mean for people who are, in the words of Cass Sunstein, spectacularly well informed, i.e conspiracy theorists. The government of the United States of America, using top secret clearance and taxpayer dollars actively plotted to murder innocent Americans in acts of terror in order to instigate a war on false grounds. To know this, according to the leading expert on conspiracy theories, makes us feel safer.

Incontrovertible proof that the government does in fact engage in criminal conspiracies that target innocent civilians in order to promote government sanctioned programs or military actions while it’s criminal participants escape justice has now been established as a fact, not a theory. Why this important piece of American history is unknown to most people is not puzzling, it is because it has been deliberately pushed off to the side, dismissed as irrelevant or pointless because it didn’t happen. Conspiracy theories do not require action, however, only the conspiracy.

One of the greatest issues the Government has in dealing with the conspiracies currently circulating is the ease with which the Internet allows them to propagate. While the vast majority of Americans have never heard of the Gulf of Tonkin, quite a few have heard the term “9/11 was an inside job” or know that something is not quite right about Sandy Hook. The ubiquitous nature of cell phone cameras has given people the ability to see for themselves without having to look through the lens of the MSM and depend upon sanitized news coverage to inform them of the details of various events taking place around the troubled world. The time when the government was kept in check by the 5th estate has long ago ceased to restrain them. The news organizations have become a tool of the establishment rather than a check on their power. The only option left is for either whistle blowers to come forward or citizen journalists to investigate on their own time and dime.

The MSM

Proof TV Media 100% Fake – Fake/Green Screen Compliation …

The Illusion of the Mainstream Media (MSM). #BreakTheIllusion

The sheer number of poorly faked news stories gives rise to the legitimate question, how many fake stories were done well? Why would any news organization feel that it is necessary to use false coverage to report actual news? It makes no sense to falsify something in order to tell the truth, so something else must be in play. The participants and producers are clearly aware of what they are doing when they use props or green screens, and since they are doing it without informing the viewing public it wouldn’t be unfair to call it a conspiracy. The more often these events are uncovered the less trust anyone feels in the institutions and representatives that commit these frauds on an unsuspecting population. Whether it is for altruistic or evil ends is irrelevant, the duplicity is it’s own crime and since it is done in secret, involving multiple parties we are left with little room to consider it as anything other than a conspiracy. That isn’t a theory, it’s a fact.

We live in an era that seems to be on the cutting edge of human civilization due to the proliferation of technically sophisticated gadgetry, but in many ways were are as ignorant and intellectually shallow as we have ever been, pacified by our good fortune, stable diets and creature comforts, bereft of the intellectual curiosity that has been the hallmark of cultures at their zenith. Grand sounding memes have been the trademark of great cultures, from Pax Romana to Rule Britannia. They are utilized to galvanize a people or a nation and lead them to greater heights and achievements or they serve as an epitaph on the gravestones of Empires, like Blood and Soil or Liberte’, Egalite’, Fraternite’. Numerous cultures experience a tumultuous birth, a meteoric rise and blossoming and slowly and inexorably decline into decadence and degeneracy.

Those who sit at the top of an empire in decline often employ the same tactics that their predecessors have used throughout history in order to remain in power; suppression of dissent, violent retaliation against those who resist, open condemnation of those who are often the most stalwart supporters of the earlier forms of the same government and eventually the emptying of the treasury and plundering of resources while the masses suffer. The employ various techniques of coercion and dependency as well as draconian measures in security and intelligence. One of the hallmarks of a failing regime is the way they turn a blind eye to the flagrant criminality of those at the top while increasingly stifling even the mildest forms of dissent at the bottom. Employing men like Cass Sunstein to float the idea that conspiracy theories are the seedbed of violent terrorist cells is only the beginning.

Many people believe that the restriction on free speech, the rise of the PC movement, the talk of microaggressions and safe spaces are about protecting marginalized minorities when in fact they are nothing more than tools used to entrench the positions of power, to eliminate resistance to their aims and objectives and to silence, once and for all every voice that fails to sing in the chorus of the State. The reason men like Cass Sunstein are employed by the State is because the veil has begun to fall. When people begin to question the veracity of the government, the next step, logically, is to question the legitimacy of the institutions that keep it in power. It is not a safe or reassuring thing to believe that your government is capable of plotting to kill you or those you love for it’s own ends, it is frightening, and demoralizing. It is also the first step in reclaiming our sovereignty. Just as no rational person would want to remain in a relationship with someone who repeatedly lies and cheats, neither would they be expected to offer allegiance to a State that would do worse.

Few people live in the natural world, experiencing the outdoors daily through all weather, dealing with real issues of life and death, the cycles of the seasons, the endless tasks associated with meeting our most fundamental needs, from feeding ourselves to teaching our own children the values and lessons that resonate with how we wish to live. For the rest of our population there is endless hours of mindless distraction, inhumane workplaces in unnatural environments far removed from the basic needs of life. We spend more time with people we hardly know than the ones we love the most, we eat food that we have no connection with and that fails to nourish, we depend more and more on a government that is further and further away from us, both in distance and in understanding, in short we have become disconnected from our own lives. Perhaps the first step in rectifying our situation is to begin to look at the world not as it could be, but how it is. To see things for what they are, to discard the falsehoods, no matter how pleasant they may seem in order to embrace the truth regardless of how painful it may be. And that’s not a theory, that’s a reality.

In closing I offer a speech filled with optimism in the face of desperation, hope in a time of bitter loss, and an appeal to the better part in all of us that calls out to be heard in times like these.

No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do, opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely, and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfil the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offence, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves, and the House? Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with these war-like preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled, that force must be called in to win back our love?

Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask, gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain.

Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done, to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free² if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending²if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power.

Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable²and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace²but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Patrick Henry

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Tucci78
Tucci78
December 18, 2015 11:45 am

“They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a [ninja-suited] guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power.”

[Pardon the paraphrasing.]

Hm. No wonder that speech is *streng Verboten* in those government indoctrination systems masquerading as “public schools.” All kindsa “microaggression” in there, eh?

Reminds me of a remark made by another Virginian a bit later on:

“…for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. but this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their opinion….” (letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, 23 September 1800)

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 18, 2015 12:05 pm

Bravo Hardscrabble, Bravo !!

I don’t know who or what has given you the calling to rise up , but God bless you sir. Let your pen be mightier than the sword and smite these devils with the truth.

I had been all up in Cass Sunstein’s underwear drawer before he joined the Obama cabal and I can assure you he is one who believes we are filthy cattle to be used as beasts of burden, to be culled and mistreated.

Anderson Cooper is a CIA puppet as are most of the MSM fraudsters and you are right that he knowingly participates in manufactured news events. If you filtered out the fake news content, we would be back to the thirty minute six o’clock news show of our youth instead of 24/7 non-stop trumped up BS.

Great article HSF, my heart soars at the prospect of your talent turned toward exposing this evil.

suzanna
suzanna
December 18, 2015 12:09 pm

To HSF,

Thank you for putting that complex post together. It is very
very difficult to shed our trust/illusions and see, eg, what the MSM
is really doing. And to recognize what gov. operatives are doing in
the USA and the world. Once recognized, the veil lifted, one knows
the TV is poison. Get rid of it, save $.

The Patrick Henry speech might have been written yesterday. Thanks
for including it.

Suzanna

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 18, 2015 12:10 pm

Nothing ever really happened.

If it did you couldn’t know of it.

If you could know of it, you couldn’t speak of it.

This is the nature of knowledge as we can understand it, it is a solitary and constantly changing thing.

daddysteve
daddysteve
December 18, 2015 12:16 pm

Hardscrabble Farmer really classes this joint up. Makes me want to sit in front of this computer in a suit and tie.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 18, 2015 12:31 pm

Anonymous says:

“Nothing ever really happened.

If it did you couldn’t know of it.

If you could know of it, you couldn’t speak of it.

This is the nature of knowledge as we can understand it, it is a solitary and constantly changing thing.”

That was thought provoking. A coupe of weeks ago my oldest son and I were discussing literature and the talk turned to The Catcher In The Rye. He had been thinking on why it has been such an enduring classic- at least in the post-War- and his take was that it demonstrated something all other coming of age tales that preceded it had not, specifically that nothing happens when you cross over from childhood to adulthood. Instead of the landscape being open to all possibilities, that is the precise moment when the door shuts for the last time on them. Children can believe in anything, adults realize that there is nothing left to believe in at all. Like America, the frontier was closed forever and that what Holden felt, sitting there in the freezing drizzle watching Phoebe circling the Merry-Go-Round in innocence, was that she too, and by extension all children ever to come would face the prospect of nothing happening again-

This is the nature of knowledge as we can understand it, it is a solitary and constantly changing thing.”

That’s a great line, really concise and as close to the bone as you’ll likely to read anywhere.

Thanks

DRUD
DRUD
December 18, 2015 12:49 pm

Brilliant, once again. I will make the point that despite the obvious fact that the MSM lies, obfuscates spins and entertains with each and every story, does NOT make the opposite of what they say the truth. Anon above nails it, we know nothing. We swim in a sea of bullshit with nothing but bullshit to see in any direction. Facts themselves appear adrift, ephemeral. The basic truths of this life remain true (Love one another, be independent, help the weak, seek enlightenment and joy more than illusory and short-lived wealth, etc) but it is clear that the Deep State and their media stooges seek to separate us from this bedrock. I for one have little or nothing to give at the end of the day after the existence you describe so well.

I would paraphrase my favorite Dickens character in response:

“an hour or two hence and the low habits and low companions I scorn bu yield to shall render me less worth such [noble words] as those as any wretch who creeps along the streets.”

I live in peace and comfort, work in an unnatural environment, eat the unnatural food, slip into a well entertained coma each evening. I know no other life. As is said, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. I cannot fight such an enemy as this–I can only hope they will soon be revealed as the dangerous, psychotic frauds they are….of course, at this point their most likely course of action will be to overturn the board like a spoiled child losing at monopoly, ruining the whole fucking world so as not to be unveiled.

Yes, I am in a bit of a black mood this morning.

PS – I usually try to refrain from making editorial notes and only do so when I think they help the piece. You have one awkward sentence that could easily be fixed.

“Numerous cultures experience a tumultuous birth, a meteoric rise and blossoming and slowly and inexorably decline into decadence and degeneracy.”

might I suggest “meteoric rise and blossoming, followed inexorably by a slow decline into decadence and degeneracy.”

All said, thanks for the peace. I will read it again when in a better mood and perhaps have an entirely different take.

Rise Up
Rise Up
December 18, 2015 12:58 pm

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Rise Up
Rise Up
December 18, 2015 1:03 pm

“Cass” Sunstein–is that short for “Crass”?

Fact is, the government conspires against the citizens constantly. If they didn’t lie to us, we would not be so inclined to conclude that they are conspiring.

Maggie
Maggie
December 18, 2015 1:07 pm

I’m nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there’s a pair of us—don’t tell!
They’d banish us, you know.

How dreary to be somebody!
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring bog!

Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)

Maggie
Maggie
December 18, 2015 1:14 pm

HSF, is this tied to your theory about why there are no maps on the news?

And, I know exactly what you mean about being connected to the land and to the means of feeding yourself. Two years ago, people who knew we were planning this move thought we were both insane to give up the income we both could earn as gubment contractors with our experience and clearances.

Today, I can’t believe we waited so long, except that having it all paid for made sense, because we may not earn another dime ever.

And as for the idea that large numbers of people can’t keep secrets? I was once called into a briefing room along with almost a thousand people in an underground alert facility somewhere in these United States. Before leaving that auditorium, everyone in that room signed a form vowing to NEVER discuss what we’d seen or heard.

I’ve NEVER heard any of it discussed. Never. And you will never hear it from me because of what was on that form I signed. Even mentioning this here will have me looking over my shoulder.

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
December 18, 2015 2:52 pm

three cheers to you and i am grateful for your time invested on this site, your views most appreciated. i traveled that road 35 years ago, if you saw me now? it only works with a good woman who supports your efforts, otherwise there is no purpose. even your children can motivate only so much. milking a cow in subzero with freezing fingers what it is that all about. maybe we will meet, assuming winter is not too hard. life makes clear sense to a farmer, so does the wonder of it all/

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
December 18, 2015 2:58 pm

Good work, HSF. How you manage to write so eloquently and run a farm; raise kids, tap maple trees, help neighbors, all at the same time, amazes me. Keep it up!

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
December 18, 2015 3:05 pm

life is very straight forward on a farm, clear as a bell. i remember hitting my lovely lady a jersey with the milk bail, i still suffer to this day for that insult. your wife and your jersey are the center of your universe. simple men like me are lost in this new world. in my case, no wife no purpose, kids gone all done, i fought the system and the system won.

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
December 18, 2015 3:07 pm

really nice to know westcoaster and i can be on the same page, darkest before the dawn?

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
December 18, 2015 3:32 pm

i am so glad ash carter decided women are ready for combat, i am all for it. i will sleep better knowing all the trans whatever are covering the front lines. men have been pussified to the point why bother, pass the baton to the bad ass bitches, go girls or whatever you call yourselves, have at it. all those muslins will chill. i will take a hard core russian any day of the week over what i saw when i was in the service. all vaginas rule the world, what a riot, women fighting and men just watching an cheering them on.

SSS
SSS
December 18, 2015 3:52 pm

“In 1962 the Department of Defense acting in cooperation with the Joint Chiefs of Staff submitted a paper detailing covert operation by either the CIA or other Government operatives to commit acts of terrorism against innocent American civilians, specifically to either hijack US commercial aircraft, shoot down commercial aircraft, attacks and kill US soldiers at Guantanamo or an attack on the Organization of American States with the intent of blaming the actions on Cuba in order to destabilize or overturn the government.”
—-from the article

Well, no. Operation Northwoods was indeed a covert, false flag plan. But its focus was to sabotage either the water or power supply at Guantanamo Bay to either provoke a war with Cuba or destabilize the Cuban government. Shooting down civilian aircraft? Killing US soldiers? Are you fucking serious?

The ONLY major conspiracy theory I give the slightest, and it is really slight, credence to is Cuba may have been involved in Lee Harvey Oswald’s assassination of JFK. Castro was some kind of pissed at the USG in general and JFK specifically because of the several failed assassination attempts on his life. In fact, Castro made an open, as in public, veiled threat against JFK in September, 1963, two months before JFK was killed. The threat was along the lines of “two can play this game.” And then Lee Harvey Oswald visited the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City.

SSS
TBP’s Official Man of Reason

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 18, 2015 4:14 pm

SSS, you are mistaken, but I wouldn’t expect you or anyone else to take my word for it.

Below is a link to the declassified Operation Northwoods/Mongoose files in pdf format.

You should read that first before you dismiss the evidence.

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/news/20010430/

This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals – part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose – included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,” including “sink[ing] a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 18, 2015 5:00 pm

The problem with conspiracy theories is that everything becomes a conspiracy, false flag.

Hey, I can prove it to you. And then they….

There are possibilities that some things are not as what they seem. However, if you buy into these theories – then it’s just another reality, and there’s yet another conspiracy, over the previous one.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 18, 2015 5:06 pm

“The problem with conspiracy theories is that everything becomes a conspiracy, false flag.

Hey, I can prove it to you. And then they….

There are possibilities that some things are not as what they seem. However, if you buy into these theories – then it’s just another reality, and there’s yet another conspiracy, over the previous one.”

I don’t understand what you mean by that. Most things are NOT conspiracy theories, why would believing that the State engages in criminal conspiracies lead to believing that everything becomes a conspiracy theory?

yahsure
yahsure
December 18, 2015 5:44 pm

Funny how i hear no questioning of our involvement in the middle east and how we will know when we win? I guess it’s when people stop shooting each other. That means never!
Listening to the republicans and their plans to spend billions on our military made me ill.
I met the enemy and they is us.
The continuous use of fear to control people got old a long time ago.

ottomatik
ottomatik
December 18, 2015 6:07 pm

Thank you for the Post it was thought provoking. It seems the bias for the term Conspiracy Theory has outgrown any definition value it might have once possessed. This coupled with Cognitive Dissonance based on comfort, guarantees a perpetuating loop, unless interrupted by outside forces or failure to deliver a sufficient level of comfort.

Jackson
Jackson
December 18, 2015 7:08 pm

Gary North on conspiracy theories in, “Eyewitnesses in San Bernardino: ‘Three Tall White Men’ ” posted on LewRockwell.com on December 16, 2015.

“What are you, a conspiracy theorist?” Yes, I am. We conspiracy theorists — revisionist historians — have a highly developed sense of smell, developed over years of sniffing around. We know when official accounts do not pass the smell test.”

Sonic
Sonic
December 18, 2015 7:21 pm

It warms my heart to hear HSF stand up gracefully in support of some singularly unpopular issues. As much as I respect his opinion and writings on the value of family, having a say in your everyday experience, and being in touch with your life in as many aspects as possible; I would be disappointed to hear him cast aspersions at those of us who ask similar questions or choose not to deny our own understanding of the physical world in favor of the popular viewpoint. I’d still ask my questions, side with the laws of physics, and otherwise be unpopular regardless of his opinion. Still, it is good to hear someone whom I respect deeply for his wisdom and clear thinking speak with the same wisdom and clear thinking on topics that are magnets for abuse in this forum.

Merry Christmas HSF, sympathizers, sincere believers in the official stories, and even trolls! God bless what it means to have the freedom voice your opinion and the freedom to dissent!

Cordially,
Sonic

Llpoh
Llpoh
December 18, 2015 7:23 pm

Never attribute to malice that which can more readily be attributed to stupidity or incompetence.

Jackson – cover-ups are oft different to conspiracy, as they are frequently used to hide incompetence.

I tend to believe that a great many people are motivated by self-interest. This mass of people acting in such a way can give the appearance of conspiracy, when in fact it is just the combined effect of a corrupt society.

NoEffingWay
NoEffingWay
December 18, 2015 7:36 pm
hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 18, 2015 8:02 pm

“Never attribute to malice that which can more readily be attributed to stupidity or incompetence.”

The key modifier being ‘more readily’.

That is indeed a huge part as would be the subsequent cover-ups- and those would be conspiracies.

Benghazi is likely a good example of a case of ‘stupidity or incompetence’ followed up by a conspiracy to cover-up the original problem.

I think I left out a crucial part of my argument when I failed to follow up on the meme concept. Certain memes- like the current “we are a propositional nation” or “That’s not who we are (as Americans)” and of course “conspiracy theory” are used in such a way as to make the words carry a certain weight or meaning that either discredits the target or upholds a principle that may be bereft of meaning.

Conspiracies are real. Theorizing about them is as natural as any other observation of human behavior. Trying to convince people that conspiracy theory=tin foil hat is dishonest and it is done deliberately by the very people engaged in conspiracies. I should have clarified.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 18, 2015 8:20 pm

Benghazi was a case of arms dealing that went south, trust me stupidity and incompetence was not the reason for the cover-up.

Rise Up
Rise Up
December 18, 2015 8:37 pm

SSS says: “The ONLY major conspiracy theory I give the slightest, and it is really slight, credence to is Cuba may have been involved in Lee Harvey Oswald’s assassination of JFK.”

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What a wonderful bubble world you live in, SSS. Are the unicorns blue or yellow? You wouldn’t know truth if it fucked you in the ass.

The Legacy of the CIA’s Secret LSD Experiments on America

Newly unclassified information blows wide the U.S. government’s covert operation to dose hundreds of unwitting Americans with LSD in the 1950s and ’60s.

The Legacy of the CIA’s Secret LSD Experiments on America

The “Green Run” was a secret U.S. Government release of radioactive fission products on December 2–3, 1949, at the Hanford Site plutonium production facility, located in Eastern Washington. Radioisotopes released at that time were supposed to be detected by U.S. Air Force reconnaissance. Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to the U.S. Government have revealed some of the details of the experiment.[1] Sources cite 5,500 to 12,000 curies (200 to 440 TBq) of iodine-131 released,[1][2][3] and an even greater amount of xenon-133. The radiation was distributed over populated areas, and caused the cessation of intentional radioactive releases at Hanford until 1962 when more experiments commenced.[3]

Leland Fox says that his father was in the military and was bivouacked on the banks of the Wenatchee River during the Green Run:

…and people with radiation suits walked around and moved the little colored flags as the radiation was detected. The cooking was done outdoors and they slept near the beach. The Officers did not stay long except to give orders and drive away. Almost everyone that my father knew was there has died of cancer. My father had chronic lymphocytic leukemia and died from the complications of lung cancer. The Feds said that the leukemia can not be caused by iodine-131 but his doctor said that it most probably was.[citation needed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Run

Maggie
Maggie
December 18, 2015 9:16 pm

That is excellent news, Admin! It means that maybe, just maybe, someone might wake up.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
December 18, 2015 9:28 pm

Congrats Hardscrabble !

I read the comments on ZH and they are interesting, only a couple have called you a wing nut, most are supportive. I understand their confusion as to why you are dwelling on a dweeb like Sunstein when there are juicier grapes on the vine. Be that as it may, outstanding first dip in uncharted water.

JFish
JFish
December 18, 2015 9:35 pm

Amazing HSF. Truly…. Great work.

Tucci78
Tucci78
December 18, 2015 9:51 pm

hardscabble farmer observes: *”Conspiracies are real. Theorizing about them is as natural as any other observation of human behavior. Trying to convince people that conspiracy theory=tin foil hat is dishonest and it is done deliberately by the very people engaged in conspiracies.”*

Quite so. To quote Professor James F. Tracy (3 September 2015):

“The pejorative dimensions of the term “conspiracy theory” were introduced into the Western lexicon by CIA ‘media assets’ as evidenced in the design laid out by Document 1035-960 (http://www.jfklancer.com/CIA.html) Concerning Criticism of the Warren Report, an Agency communiqué issued in early 1967 to Agency bureaus throughout the world at a time when attorney Mark Lane’s Rush to Judgment was atop bestseller lists and New Orleans DA Garrison’s investigation of the Kennedy assassination began to gain traction.”

[see http://tinyurl.com/pw9pyba ]

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
December 18, 2015 9:59 pm

Rise up, I don’t know where I’d find accurate weather reports for that Green Run time period but troops camped on the Wenatchee River would be well north and west of the prevailing winds coming out of the Hanford area so that report makes no sense unless they waited for a day when the winds blew NW out of Hanford.

I live in eastern WA and if you draw a line between Hanford (Kennewick, Pasco, Richland) and Spokane, that is the exact path of our prevailing winds. The Wenatchee River is nowhere near that path. Fairchild AFB is though.

suzanna
suzanna
December 18, 2015 10:14 pm

for SSS and coattail Dutchman…

Tyler Durden’s picture
On Conspiracy Theories
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/18/2015 – 19:30

Perhaps the first step in rectifying our situation is to begin to look at the world not as it could be, but how it is. To see things for what they are, to discard the falsehoods, no matter how pleasant they may seem in order to embrace the truth regardless of how painful it may be. And that’s not a theory, that’s a reality.

suzanna
suzanna
December 18, 2015 10:26 pm

another way to define conspiracy theory
is to consider elaborate plots planned in secret
(from the rabble/us) to manipulate events and people/society.
Serving the goals and pocket books of the players.
Sometimes, players don’t give a shite…Victoria Nuland?
5 billion to overthrow Ukraine and install the “puppet”
leader. She and they spoke quite openly about it.
One could say bragged about it. Remember her saying,
“F— the EU”…?

One of the first official acts? Steal the either 33 or 44 tons of gold/
hold it for “safekeeping” in the US. Quite a return on the 5 billion.

Imagine…getting stabbed in the back. Figuratively, every single day.

suzanna
suzanna
December 18, 2015 10:31 pm

can you dig it??

Yet Again, The Media Got The Facts Wrong About The San Bernardino Attacks
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/18/2015 – 18:30

On Wednesday, the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations said the agency has no evidence the married couple accused of killing 14 people in San Bernardino, California earlier this month had any connection to an active terror cell. This admission from the FBI directly contradicts media reports that immediately claimed the San Bernardino shooters were linked to Daesh (ISIS) via social media.

At some point they may? admit the couple never shot anything
anywhere, anytime. The guns were wielded by others.

Doesn't matter
Doesn't matter
December 18, 2015 11:04 pm

Ok this was driving me crazy. It’s = it is. It’s = NOT POSESSIVE, you would use its (no apostrophe)

Sorry, had to do it.

gm
gm
December 18, 2015 11:52 pm

sss cia coined the phrase conspiracy theory to muddy all the water , give me a break

HSF excellent post , very well received on ack zerohedge . Grats SIR.

Zerohedge is good , but used to be great , sigh I think cbs bought that platform , could be wrong

but the more people that learn things factual as opposed to the BS msm , the better !!

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
December 19, 2015 1:23 am

christmas greetings, how fortunate the world is all thanks to lenin.stalin/mao, it only gets better. the 7th century has returned. liberals should be overjoyed, forward next tuesday, comrade. the new savior of the world is name hussien, our leader, who knows best, if in doubt, shut up. lets face it, 70 million dollars will at some point bring his hadicap down. keep up the good work barry or barrack, whatever ever name works. so glad our president always has time for the really important matters of state, three cheers for all liberals, they know best.

Brian
Brian
December 19, 2015 1:34 am

Great Article! What do lawyers, judges, DA’s, and everyone else who’s career revolves around law enforcement and the judicial system do? A crime is committed. They come up with a theory sometimes involving a conspiracy, gather facts and try to prove that theory in court for a guilty or not guilty verdict.

Does this make them conspiracy theorists too?

“Conspiracy Theory” as a derogatory term was pushed into service to degrade and silence those who questioned the Warren Reports absurd conclusions. Magic bullet anyone?

Alexander Ac
Alexander Ac
December 19, 2015 3:39 am

Here is one conspiracy theory favourite in this site:

A 2013 study published in Environmental Research Letters by Australian researchers John Cook, Dana Nuccitelli and their colleagues examined 11,944 climate paper abstracts published from 1991 to 2011. Of those papers that stated a position on AGW, about 97 percent concluded that climate change is real and caused by humans. What about the remaining 3 percent or so of studies? What if they’re right? In a 2015 paper published in Theoretical and Applied Climatology, Rasmus Benestad of the Norwegian Meteorological Institute, Nuccitelli and their colleagues examined the 3 percent and found “a number of methodological flaws and a pattern of common mistakes.” That is, instead of the 3 percent of papers converging to a better explanation than that provided by the 97 percent, they failed to converge to anything.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-climate-skeptics-are-wrong/

best,

Alex

Tucci78
Tucci78
December 19, 2015 5:04 am

Brian writes: “What do lawyers, judges, DA’s, and everyone else who’s career revolves around law enforcement and the judicial system do? A crime is committed. They come up with a theory sometimes involving a conspiracy, gather facts and try to prove that theory in court for a guilty or not guilty verdict.

“Does this make them conspiracy theorists too?”
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The contention is not mine own originally, but it’s powerfully arguable that these United States, as a polity, had been born of a conspiracy theory.

Read the Declaration of Independence (1776), with particular attention paid to “The history of the present King of Great Britain,” characterizing same as “…a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.”

Thereafter a laundry list of facts “submitted to a candid world” to support the contention that “Fat George” had been working unremittingly – and without response to the Americans’ many petitions for redress – to the purpose of imposing government in the colonies contrary to the rule of law established in the British Constitution.

No single absolutely “deal-breaking” offense against the American colonists on the part of either the monarchy or the Parliament (the crown had learned at least THAT much from the English Civil Wars of the previous century), but rather “…a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object [which] evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism….”

In other words, a conspiracy, comprising a protracted scheme of underhanded criminalities perpetrated by His Majesty’s government crafted invidiously rather than overtly to do to the people of these United States what the Stuart monarchy had tried to do to the people of England.

Condemn “conspiracy theory,” do they?

Do the guilty sweat and writhe when they know they’re being pursued?

flash
flash
December 19, 2015 7:56 am

SSS takes a Swing…and it’s a miss..and not surprisingly so , all those years in service to the beast has turned Super Saps temporal lobe to mush..but all in all, he means well.

That said, Kudos to you HSF, for an enlightening albeit succinct read, which sums up the current state of realpolitik of the USG, which is a government by and large no longer a servant of WE THE PEOPLE , but something else that even yet remains to be seen .

+1000000

flash
flash
December 19, 2015 8:13 am

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Anonymous
Anonymous
December 19, 2015 9:43 am

SUPER-VACCINATION AGENGA
Being Foisted On The USA 24/7

U.S. Government and Big Pharma Corporations Conducting ‘Nazi Medical Experiments’ Worldwide

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Childhood Vaccination Regimens:
Barbaric, Insane and Fraudulent

Rise Up
Rise Up
December 19, 2015 11:53 am

IndenturedServant says: Rise up, I don’t know where I’d find accurate weather reports for that Green Run time period but troops camped on the Wenatchee River would be well north and west of the prevailing winds coming out of the Hanford area so that report makes no sense unless they waited for a day when the winds blew NW out of Hanford.
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“The Green Run experiment was planned with certain atmospheric weather conditions in mind. Specifically, a local inversion of air was required to dilute radioactive materials before reaching the ground so no rain or fog could be present as it would prevent airborne radiological data collection efforts. A WEST TO SOUTHWEST wind spread of at least fifteen miles per hour at 200 feet above was required to allow for the radioactive emissions to stay aloft long enough to collect data. [2] Initially the experiment was planned for late November but was postponed due to unsatisfactory weather conditions. It seems that unfavorable conditions continued and at the scheduled time of the planned December 2nd run, Hanford scientists expressed concern recommending, “it (the release) not be run at the time…The time was wrong.” [3] Nevertheless, the Department of Defense (headed by General Dwight D. Eisenhower) insisted that the run take place and at 8 p.m. on December 2nd, 1949. The material was released from a spare dissolver at Hanford’s T plant. Michelle Gerber in On the Home Front, points out that at least two individuals in knowledgeable positions have stated that the Green Run “went awry.” It is acknowledged that the release was so large that it consequently contaminated much of the field monitoring and laboratory equipment producing “high background signals that made it difficult to distinguish radioactivity on the equipment from radioactivity in the environment.” [4] The Health Instruments Deputy Chief, Carl Gamertsfleder was quoted in saying that along the Columbia River between Hanford and The Dalles, Oregon, the radioiodine cloud “probably got as many people as it could.” [5]”

http://www.hanfordproject.com/greenrun.html

BEA LEVER
BEA LEVER
December 19, 2015 12:03 pm

Alex Ac- Long time no see.

Still riding your bike in Crimea or where ever you are from? Still believing in Globull Warming?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 19, 2015 12:25 pm

Alexander AC, of all the people on Earth you could choose to cite, you selected Shermer? Are you completely unaware of his reputation?

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