After going out to breakfast this morning I walked down the street to check out my first legal weed shop in person. I was curious to find out if the prices for weed on priceofweed.com in states where it had been legalized were based on legal purchases or black market because their website does not say. I walked there mostly because I don’t want my license plate recorded (if that kind of thing is going on) but it is colder than a well diggers ass out there at 7 degrees above zero!
The place was clean and neat with no hint of marijuana aroma at all. Called Smokane, it looked a bit like a white sterile hospital room with jewelry display cases. There was a chalk board menu of their products on the wall which isn’t really helpful unless you are familiar with the hundreds of different strains that exist. They break things down by type which falls into sativa (head high) and indica (body high) and hybrids which supposedly offer aspects of both.
The names that growers come up with are endlessly creative and quite often accurately describe the aroma given off by each strain. For instance there was a strain called Blueberry Cheesecake which smells exactly like what it sounds like with an added fresh, herbally familiar aroma of weed. Pineapple Express had the unmistakable aroma of pineapple. I’m told that with the advent of vaping, you can actually taste these flavors as well. It seems that selecting weed is a lot like choosing wine. Vaping, for those that don’t know, is a method of consuming weed that does not burn it like smoking does. The weed is heated in a very controlled way that avoids combustion but instead converts the effect causing compounds to a vapor. Vaporizers come in all shapes and sizes from ball point pen size to table top (flower vase) size. Vaping is said to be much healthier for the lungs and eliminates the numerous harmful compounds caused by combustion. Apparently few people smoke weed anymore.
There are coffee cup sized clear containers that have little magnifying lenses in the sides to help you see the weed and a little capped port on top that allows you to smell the weed. I love the smell of weed! Always have! Each strain is offered in various sized packages from one gram up to one ounce. I’m sure the use of metric weights throws off the limited brain power of many stoners. The clean cut guy behind the counter said that they have to explain it quite a bit. One avoirdupois ounce equals 28.3 grams and I can easily do the math in my head. He said that people buying a gram at a time are usually short on funds and paying with a mix of ones, fives and change or they were people looking to sample different strains before committing to a larger quantity or one strain. Back in the day, most guys I knew would smoke a gram between the door and their car! An 1/8th ounce might last them a day or weekend at the most. That never made sense to me because if you smoke a joint you get plenty high and it lasts 2-3 hours. If you smoked 10 joints at once you would achieve the EXACT SAME high as one joint and it would last 2-3 hours so smoking more weed, more frequently is just a waste IMO. Like I’ve said, stoners aren’t the brightest bunch.
You can’t get price breaks for buying in quantity. Gram sized packages cost more per ounce than all other sizes because it’s more labor intensive to weigh and package it. Everything is pre-packaged and sealed. Eighth ounce, ¼, ½ and one ounce sizes are cheaper per ounce than grams but there are no price breaks beyond that.
I asked what was the most potent, “knock you dick in the dirt” weed they had. He said it depended on what kind of high I was looking for but that based strictly on THCA content a strain called Silver Tip was it at 28% total THCA. It was $15 per gram which works out to $420/ounce. The same strain sells for $256/ounce in sizes 1/8th – 1 ounce. The maximum you can legally buy is 2 ounces at a time. So, it seems the prices on priceofweed.com for WA are based on or inline with the legal weed shops in WA state.
I can only imagine that quality and potency have done nothing but improve in the nearly 11 years since I last smoked and as my article yesterday, MARIJUANA TRUTH pointed out, the highest quality weed was selling for $300/ounce on the black market back then. So, legalization has brought prices down even with the govt taxing it.
When weed was first legalized in WA there was a tax scheme in place that taxed the grower at 25%, the processor at 25% and the retailer at 25%. That was recently changed to a single point of sale tax of 37%. How often do you see a tax reduction like that on anything?
I asked if he felt that the black market has a negative effect on legal sales. He said he doesn’t know anyone among his friends who buy on the black market and customers seem to really enjoy the increased availability, large selection and consistent quality. Availability was always an issue in the past and it was hit & miss many times. Selection was limited at best and usually non-existent prior to legalization. Quality was always a concern in the past. Everything from accurate weights, moisture content, mold, seeds and odd aromas due to perfumes/colognes, air fresheners etc affected quality then. Now, weed must undergo lab testing to rule out any contamination. Moisture content is very consistent and controlled which keeps weights accurate. Odd aromas caused by contamination of the growing and processing are a thing of the past. The salesman said that everyone comments on the much improved quality since legalization.
I also made a stupid inquiry about whether they had experienced or heard of threats from gangs, criminals or drug cartels in any way and the guy laughed and looked at me like I was an idiot. He said that weed shops experienced some early break in attempts but the products are always stored in a dispensary safe after hours.
Apart from glancing at your ID to confirm your age, no personal info was asked for or required. They do offer a customer loyalty program that uses your email to deliver special offers but participation is optional. All sales are cash only and a deposit safe is employed to secure the cash from employees and robbery. I asked if the banking/credit issues hindered the business in any way but be said that the owner handles all of that and he didn’t know. He said that he does receive a payroll check and taxes are deducted. He also said that he files his own taxes and has no issues using his bank account to cash checks.
I felt really bad about taking up the guy’s time without making a purchase. I was half considering quitting my job and buying one of everything in the shop to celebrate the New Year! You can buy pre-rolled joints, righteous buds, edibles in dozens of varieties and concentrates like oil, wax, shatter and hash. It’s fucking awesome! I never dreamed I’d see something like this in my lifetime in the USA.
It seems that so far, most if not all of my concerns about legalization are unfounded and many things like the amazing selection and quality were complete surprises and a big plus! Decriminalization would have maintained the former availability/quality concerns. In most cases decriminalization only applies to possession and use. Things like producing, selling and buying usually remain illegal which presents a conundrum and maintains the risk of arrest and jail time for associated crimes.
I still have concerns about license plates of legal weed customers being harvested and later used to bust CCP holders on felony gun & drug charges. It also goes against the grain that the govt benefits from taxing it. I believe that eventually the marijuana industry will be bought and controlled by big corporate concerns just like tobacco is. Big tobacco is currently investing in and expanding their presence in the liquids used in eCigarette products. From what I hear they are doing extensive R&D in the marijuana industry. No doubt they will end up restricting selection and adding all sorts of shit to it to turn it from a natural product into a Frankenstein like product that cigarettes have become. I hope I’m wrong.
Dope is worse for dopes lungs than cigarettes.
My cousin in Colorado is graduating with a Petroleum Engineering degree in May (I discussed his slim pickings at interviews and lack of offers so far last month, but it is only January 1.) Anyway, one of his frat buds is a Chemical Engineering major and has an offer to work for a company that extracts THC from marijuana for a starting salary of $90,000.
I’m just wondering what the fringe benefits might be… or, on the other hand… what kind of security checks might be in place for employees.
But, 90K starting out…
robert h siddell jr says:
“Dope is worse for dopes lungs than cigarettes.”
It’s your claim so I’ll ask you for a source? I truly don’t know but with the way the chemists in big tobacco “juice” tobacco, I’d be skeptical. I do know that a “hit” of MJ from a vaporizer is many times milder than a hit from a bowl or joint. Whether it is healthier though, I can’t say. No hit would be healthiest.
What’s a PAX? What does your heart doc say about MJ consumption?
I meant to include a bit about the cost of the new govt MJ bureaucracy in WA. Prior to weed being legalized here, Costco used the petition process to privatize the state run alcohol control board. Like many states, WA controlled alcohol sales with an iron fist right down to owning and operating the liquor stores with state employees. The initiative passed and most of that bureaucracy was out on it’s ass. I’ll bet the selection of alcohol based products expanded by a hundred times or more. Now if you want something not stocked you can simply order it instead of being told that big brother does not approve of your choice by some drone.
Now that weed is legal, a new bureaucracy is being built but I suspect it is much smaller than its predecessor. Overall though, the bureaucracy is no bigger than it was with alcohol.
As a tobacco/cigarette smoker (i crank out my own), i find that after mj consumption, tobacco smoking is greatly reduced (mouth is dry/tastes like shit). This is all anecdotal to yall.
I like mj but worry about spiritual effects…it changes my brain…
Thx T4C. Very nice! I bought a an Arizer ExtremeQ for my best friend for Christmas. He’s had a chest cold since Christmas so it’s still awaiting its first use. I used a friends Volcano one time when they first came out. Loved it! I had no idea that vaping had become the preferred method of use until this morning but it makes sense. If you know, are vapes easier on the lungs than smoking from a health perspective?
T4C, I used reviews over at fuckcombustion.com and then they put me in touch with a regular there who custom matches what your needs might be with different models free of charge. The Arizer is the most versatile, and has lots of mo better features and performance that nearly every model/brand out there and it’s only $140.
The only downsides to it are it’s not discreet and not battery operated but my friend will only use it at home.
This has been an interesting and very informative post and comment thread. I’m 50 years old and smoked my share of weed in high school and college. I would even occasionally imbibe for a decade or so beyond that. But I got married and had kids and stopped it completely. My recollection from that time is that for all too many of my fellow ‘users’ of the good herb it, unfortunately, was habitual to their own detriment.
I probably have 200 current acquaintances that drink alcohol. I would say 15% of them over use. But of the 1 to 2 hundred pot smokers I knew, I would estimate that 50 -75% of them over used.
My bottom line: less destructive than alcohol but more prone to be over used. I’d legalize it though. It is just one of God’s plants.
$460 an O/Z ..friggin’ hell fire.When I was a kid coming up in the 70’s a pound of pot was $75 tops..
Thanks SSS , all you DEA dicks did was drive up the price of gettin’ high . I thought that if it was ever legalized I might want to try a puff for ol’ times sake , but not as those prices…sheesh $460 will buy a lot of Scotch.
Flash- Your analysis fails to compare apples to apples. 75$ for a pound had to have been some seriously low grade Mexi brick weed compared to some of the highest grade available. I mentioned in an earlier post that super high grade is available for 100-150 an ounce here in CO regularly, on the Black Market, which is much cheaper than it was for decades, the going rate was 100 a 1/4 forever.
This may be true in CO because Coloradans can each grow 6 plants, 12 per household. I think we are the only state that went this route. I have never grown it, but I know plenty that do, our Black Market is saturated to the point of breaking. I know it is being given away for free to friends and family of people hobby growing all of the time.
IS-T4c- Thanks for the intro to Vape products, my elderly mother uses occasionally for medical and has been a life long cigarette smoker. So she uses the edible products but they are very expensive.
I wouldn’t have much of a problem with legal pot if the stupid potheads would just smoke it in the privacy of their homes/ apartments like they used to before legalization.
I’m wondering what vaping tobacco would be like. Of course the big tobacco companies are adulterating their product with all kinds of nasty crap so you’d have to get your hands on some clean tobacco to try it. Not that I’d do it though, I gave up THAT evil weed 16 years & 13 days ago! I have no doubt that cigarettes did far more harm to my health than weed ever did!
KaD, in WA it’s illegal to smoke weed in public. They even outlawed the potential for creating smoking lounges or clubs for MJ users. That’s right, they outlawed something that no has ever done before! I feel so fortunate to live in a country where big brother is always looking out for me!
ottomatik , I’m no expert on pot, but the pot I refer to was very potent, for example looked how stupid it made the counter culture generations. We’re witnessing the fruits of that of that debauched generation now…and worse.
flash, if you haven’t smoked weed since the 70’s it might be worth snagging a gram of the good stuff available today. Then again, it might just kill you! Potency back in the day had THCA measurements in the low to mid single digits. Today the THCA numbers are nearly 30% and maybe higher. You could take a well formed bud today and cut an 1/8th” cube sized piece out of it and get high at least twice! One hit and you’re done!
Flash- That’s funny, no doubt, just wait, if the weed from the 60’s and 70’s had a noticeable impact, then today’s weed will probably incapacitate this generation. They will beat you to the nursing home.