That Comedy Thing

Guest Post by Hardscrabble Farmer

Whenever people find out that I spent a good part of my adult life earning my living as a stand up comic their perception of me changes. Like being a veteran they assume certain things about me; that I should be funnier than I am, that I can tell them a joke if they ask, that I must know current celebrities even though I haven’t been in the business for more than 15 years. It’s not a fact that I hide, but it isn’t one that comes out in casual conversation either. Usually there will be a relevant story that requires me to divulge that fact, like how I met my wife, but for the most part it something that doesn’t come up all that often and I tend to think of myself in terms of the present rather than in the accomplishments of the past.

There is always a look of incredulity that follows disclosure, like they can’t believe that I was ever anything else before I became a farmer, or that someone who comes across as serious could ever have a sense of humor. I do have a sense of humor, but like my physical strength I try and conserve what little I have left to share with my family. I’m becoming found of the taciturn version of myself that most people encounter. The other day as I was backing the pickup truck out of a tight spot my youngest son asked me why I was so mad. I wasn’t and the question caught me by surprise.
“Why do you think I’m mad?” I asked him.

“That look on your face.” he said as he tried to duplicate it.

I smiled when I realized that every time I have to turn my head too far to the left or right, I grimace.

“That’s the face I make when I’m backing up.” I told him. “Like the face people make when they’re surprised.” And then I made a surprised face and he laughed. “If I make the surprised face the next time I’m looking back, that means we’re about to hit something.” He laughed harder.

Life is like that, I suppose. The things we choose to do in life alters us, often in ways you’d least likely suspect. A great carpenter will eventually ruin his arms from swinging a hammer and wind up with scarred and bent fingers from the lifetime of work required of them. Comedy is no different. The things I once laughed at I now find insipid and shallow. Make me laugh today and you’ve accomplished something. Jaded is probably the best word for it, but that’s not it either.

Once you’ve learned the mechanics of how to perform on stage in front of strangers for an hour, getting laughs every fifteen to thirty seconds, punctuated by applause breaks every three to five minutes, followed by a closer that brings people to their feet with regularity at the end of a sixty minute set, the magic goes away. I remember watching a stand-up named Rick Overton perform at the Funny Bone on South Street in Philadelphia a couple of weeks before I decided to try it out myself and he made me laugh so hard that I couldn’t remember a word he’d said when it was over. Five years later we worked together in L.A. and I sat quietly in the back of the room for his entire set and never cracked a smile. He’d only gotten better over the years, but something had changed in me.

There’s nothing funny about comedy.

I got into it by accident. I’d been working as a construction superintendent for a large firm in Philadelphia building automobile dealerships, SEPTA bus washes and VA dining facilities. The work required dealing with tradesmen, working in the elements regardless of weather, dealing with tight schedules and demanding employers in order to turn over projects as quickly and efficiently as possible. It was a great career for a military veteran- which I was- and the income was more than I could have hoped for without a degree and it satisfied most of my creative and physical needs, but it was a lonely business and there wasn’t a lot of time or opportunity to meet the opposite women, something anyone in their twenties is going to be looking for.

I spotted an ad in a newspaper for an acting class and on a whim I signed up, hoping to meet actresses I suppose. The teacher was a former Soap Opera star named Curt and I did meet actresses, one of whom was also a stand up comedian. We went out a couple of times and she invited me to watch her perform on night. At the end of the show she approached me and asked “What did you think?” and I remember what I said back to her.

“I think I could do that.”

And so I did.

You start doing comedy before you figure out how to write jokes, usually on open mic stages, usually late at night, usually in front of nobody. Most people can’t take that kind of initiation but I had a deep well of self-discipline and an even deeper well of self-loathing so I made it through the hard part without much difficulty. The person you are in real life is not the person people see on stage. No one is that funny (if you’re good) that confident (if you can pull it off) and that charismatic. Most comics, I discovered, were either deeply unhappy or troubled by demons you could only guess at. Sure there were exceptions, naturally funny guys who had stable lives with families and prospects beyond the stage, but that was a minority.

Looking back I’d like to think that I was an exception, but that’s wishful thinking on my part. I did improve rapidly and I credit that to my work ethic as much as anything else. In the early years I worked every hell gig and seafood restaurant with a microphone in a 300 mile radius. I’d do two or three sets a night, private parties without a sound system, MC at low end strip clubs, biker bars and wedding receptions. There were always a couple of bookers that had a series of one-nighters in places like Oil City and Clarion where’d you’d be lucky to have a dozen people in the audience, but stage time is stage time and every minute you performed was another minute you could try out new stuff.

Most of the guys I started with were lucky to earn $40 a gig, comics like Adam McKay and Paul F Thompkins who these days direct studio blockbusters for millions of dollars and most of them have vanished into obscurity, like Purnell “Motherfucker” Tucker and John Matta. I landed a full time house MC slot at a Philadelphia club and worked 7 nights a week until I had honed a strong fifteen minute set and confident persona onstage. Every week nationally touring comics came through and I watched them intently to see how they worked and what they did and took notes when they gave me advice. By the end of the first year I was already doing road work at club chains like the Comedy Zone and the big stand alone rooms like Charlie Goodnights, The Firm and Snickerz. Truth be told it was a lot of fun.

I’m not sure what my family made of my move from Construction- where I’d been steadily rising, moving on to larger and larger projects- to a life as a road comic. Ohio on Monday, Indiana on Tuesday, Michigan for the weekend. This was before cell phones and as I became busier I tended to disappear for months at a time. Travel, I soon discovered, was the biggest part of the job, spending four, five, ten hours a day driving between gigs, unloading at a Red Roof Inn an hour before showtime and then turning in a thirty minute performance as a Feature act, or middle. I worked with great comics and I worked with horrible ones. There were prop acts and ventriloquists- ‘vents’ as they were called with a sneer- filthy dirty comics and fat slob drunks.

I had carved out a role as an all-American, boy next door kind of character with clean material that played well everywhere and it helped that I behaved myself and showed deference to club owners and their staff. My intro, “A former sniper in the US Army and a current writer for Cosmo Magazine” was what they’d call a dog whistle today. It gave me cred with the men and piqued the interest of the women and was so atypical that it gave me a minute or two to capture their attention while they tried to make sense of the juxtaposition. I was smart enough to see that the only way to do well was to develop a reputation and the only way to do that was either to be outrageous or funny. I worked hard at writing and kept voluminous notes, adding to the pieces that worked, night after night, one show after another. At eighteen months I landed an agent and from that point on I was on the road for 365 days a year.

There were, at that time, two ways to make it as a comic, either touring full time, or staying put in either New York or L.A. and hoping to sign a deal. A lot of road comics were catching breaks at that time, Tim Allen and Roseanne Barr both came off the road to do sitcoms and there was a boom in clubs opening in every corner of America. Hooked up to one-nighters I was beginning to make enough of an income that I’d almost caught back up to what I’d left behind in construction. The downside of course was the loneliness of the road. A couple of hours a night in the club followed by twenty or more in a hotel room or the car allowed for some deep reflection.

I started to write for periodicals, some popular, some embarrassing, and I built up a pretty good cache of short stories, scripts and a novel along the way. When the weather was good and I had time between gigs I camped out; National and State Parks, farmer’s fields and abandoned kivas. I fished in rivers and lakes, hunted arrowheads on Amish homesteads and visited museums and attractions from one end of the US to the other. I began to look at what I was doing as an education rather than a career and I started to pay close attention to the changing face of the country.

I tried to write jokes each day that fit the local audience, something about their particular region or town that they knew was absurd or unique but that other people would overlook and it always came first to help me find a connection with the crowd. I’d become a confirmed road comic without realizing the choice I had made, but it was exactly what I was supposed to be doing at that time and though I can’t say I was happy, I was content.

About five years into it I started doing the competitions and I always made it to the final three. The competitions were the industry’s way of finding the next big thing and sometimes they were fair and sometimes they were rigged. I only cared about the audience vote and I won those and that was enough for me. I did manage to get enough attention to get on some of the comedy shows that were so popular at the time, An Evening at the Improve, Comedy on the Road, Friday Night Videos, but I never came close to a sitcom deal and I couldn’t bring myself to move to L.A.- which I hated- or NY- which I hated slightly more.

I hooked up with a college agent and within a year I was the top booked comic on the college circuit. The money improved but the traveling got harder, sometimes booked to do 3 events in a single day with three or four hundred miles of travel between them. I rarely worked with other comics at this point, seeing them only when there were club dates or passing through their hometowns and I became increasingly more isolated, alone.

You’ve probably never heard of the funniest people in stand-up because what audiences find funny- Jeff Foxworthy, George Lopez, Larry the Cable Guy- were definitely not what comics considered top shelf. Guys like Brian Bradley, Brian Haley and Brian Reagan (the Brians) were by far the best, not only great writers and performers, but exceptionally decent people with real lives. The ones that a lot of people do know, the ones on television constantly, were some of the most vile and unpleasant people you could ever imagine meeting. I won’t name them, because like they say if you haven’t got something nice to say, don’t. So I won’t.

After I met my wife it all began to unwind for me. By then I had adopted a dog on the road and the jaded part of comedy had kicked in big time. There were only a handful of people who made me laugh anymore and I didn’t want to lose even that. I lost my interest in being a docile and obedient comic who would act pleasant even when being heckled and started to stand up for myself, no pun intended, when club owners made unreasonable demands.

The PC thing had just begun to infect the college market and you could tell by the lists they’d hand you at the beginning of the show telling you what you could or could not joke about on their campus that the death knell was tolling for comedy. The really funny lines always pushed at the boundaries of acceptable and more an more you’d hear people – always a small minority- hiss or object if their feelings had been hurt. Sometimes it was understandable, I once asked a blind guy why he wouldn’t make eye contact, but sometimes it was absurd, “My sister had a cat and that’s not funny.” WTF? had not yet become a thing, but I remember thinking the equivalent of WTF?

The year before I gave it up I was voted Campus Comedian of the Year by NACA (beating out Carrot Top, go figure) and had I stayed I could have milked that cow for a few more years, but every year I got older and every year the college kids stayed the same age. It was like Rip Van Winkle while being awake.

I married. My wife got pregnant. We moved into an old farmhouse in my hometown. I got a new agent who wanted me to be on television. I started doing voice overs and commercials in NYC and commuting by train in and out of the city made me question everything about what I was doing. One talent agency wanted me to MC Lilith Fair. On New Years Eve right before our first child was born my agent booked me into a gig in Altoona, Pennsylvania working with KC and the Sunshine Band, yes, that KC and the Sunshine Band, because according to my agent, “You’re big in Altoona.”

If that wasn’t a sign from God then he doesn’t do signs anymore. My last gig was at a club in the Mall of America the same week Gladiator came out. They put the comics up in an apartment known in club circles as a comedy condo and the conditions when I checked in were heartbreaking. Used condoms on the floor of the bedroom, beds unmade and filthy, kitchen sink filled with dishes. I remember watching Russell Crowe go through his own disillusionment with Rome at the same time I was falling out of love with America and like him I thought that when it all came down to it it’s your family that matters more than the crowd.

During my last show I was killing, as they say, the audience getting one of the best performances of my career because it was my last. That afternoon before the show I had made my decision in the same way I had decided to become a comic, just like that. At one point the audience was really enjoying themselves and I outstretched by arms and asked them “Are you not entertained?” and they responded with laughter and applause. Before I went into my closer, the best bit of my act, I shared with them that I was done with comedy. This was my last show, they were my last audience and this was my final bit, ever.

I remember how they reacted, that room full of strangers who had been enjoying the entire show up until that moment and they all moaned together like it would make a difference. I appreciated it, thanked them for it and I set into the last bit the best I could and at the end they gave me a standing O to round out my career, whether I deserved it or not. The owner paid me at the bar after the show and before I left town I went back to the comedy condo and washed the dishes and made the bed and cleaned the bathroom, vacuuming my way out the door. Then I drove twelve hundred miles back home to my wife, straight through the night and I never did stand up comedy again.

A lot of people who find out that I was a stand up comic think I should be funny, all the time. “Tell me a joke” they’ll demand, like you’d ask a dentist to clean your teeth if he announced what he did at a cocktail party. I have a line that I use when they tell me they don’t think I’m a funny person- “There’s nothing funny about comedy,” I reply, deadpan. And then they smile and ask if I have ever met any celebrities and depending on if I like them or not I tell them yes or no. I learned a lot doing what I did, how to write well, how to be comfortable being alone, what America is all about and how much it is changing, how big and beautiful it still is and how worthwhile every little thing can be, from a good meal to a decent night’s sleep.

Without stand-up I never would have met my wife, never would have had my beautiful, wonderful children, never found the life I treasure so much today. I would have missed all the friendships with all the talented people and seen all the sadness and despair that I knew I didn’t want in my life even if it had paid me a fortune. I suppose I’m not all that funny, although my children think I’m hilarious, but that’s the price you pay when you get too close to something and do it for too long.

You build up scars and wear out parts that made you good at something until you’re like the old carpenter and if you know anything about how to construct a joke, that’s a call back. We do what we do when we do it because there is definitely something out there that needs us to. Fate, free will or predestination or maybe a combination of all three, we move through our lives leaving this path behind us that lets us know we were on the right track even if we wind up where we never expected to go.
And that’s that comedy thing.

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Tucci78
Tucci78
February 17, 2016 9:43 am

“Life is easy. Comedy is hard.” (unattributed)

Reliably tickling some anonymous stranger’s funnybone obliges diagnostic acuity on the order of that required by the practice of rheumatology, as well as fine discriminatory therapeutic aptitude.

I had wondered how Hardscrabble Farmer had developed his perceptive faculties and eloquence in expression; no longer.

mike in ga
mike in ga
February 17, 2016 9:45 am

Yours is an amazing story, well told. You made specific, informed choices in your life in order to live it the way you wanted to. What a particularly American trait, the freedom to change the direction and trajectory of your own success. You wrote this really well.

Gayle
Gayle
February 17, 2016 10:00 am

Hardscrabble

Thanks for the tour of a subculture that is completely foreign to me. I learned some things.

I’m pretty sure you were put on this earth to write words. Stories and reflections pour forth. The exercise of intelligence, fearlessness, energy, and a strong work ethic have provided lots to write about. There must be a best seller waiting for you when you get around to it.

Crat
Crat
February 17, 2016 10:07 am

Thanks

Unscripted
Unscripted
February 17, 2016 11:37 am

Reading this piece is like staring a painting with vivid colors over subtle shades. Thank you, Hardscrabble, for allowing us to peak behind comedy’s curtain. Even though you have grown to prefer ponderous prose over punchlines and, although the applause may now be more silent; it is still there.

Tom S.
Tom S.
February 17, 2016 12:47 pm

Wonderful story, HSF. It explains a lot about your writing (and people) sense. It’s nice that you took the skills you were given and used them to become a good man. You could have pissed them away like so many others, but you didn’t. You instead have earned the right to look at your scarred fingers when it’s all finished and think of the good things you built along the way.

FWIW My neighbor and good friend is a stand up comedian and has shared similar stories with me over the years. He still works, but usually only a couple dozen shows a year. Spends a lot of time writing and managing other comedians now, when he’s not teaching soccer to my daughter (and his).

OldeVirginian
OldeVirginian
February 17, 2016 12:52 pm

Hardscrabble you veered from your recent pattern. I kept waiting for the punch when you brought up our politicians. You had to have felt like a piker competing for laughs with likes of them.

Peaceout
Peaceout
February 17, 2016 12:54 pm

Thanks for sharing part of ‘your story’. Very interesting.

OldeVirginian
OldeVirginian
February 17, 2016 12:55 pm

I am glad you left that life. I always found likes of Roseann Barr Robin Williams and so on inexpressably vile and not humorous in the least. Carlin tried too hard and was over the top. Kind of like will rodgers in a whorehouse.

Homer
Homer
February 17, 2016 12:59 pm

Ya! I was a sit-down comic. Most people didn’t know that about me. Every time I got up to tell a joke, everyone yelled at me to sit down.

yahsure
yahsure
February 17, 2016 1:05 pm

The current PC thing by college students is taking things to a new level. I thought Carlin was pretty spot on about a lot of things. Like the American dream.

Stucky
Stucky
February 17, 2016 2:02 pm

HF

Very interesting and informative. Great read.

I have just one request ……. can you tell me a joke?

Phaedrus
Phaedrus
February 17, 2016 2:13 pm

You write exceedingly well, Hardscrabble, and you have The Right Stuff. Kudos!

Stucky
Stucky
February 17, 2016 2:14 pm

“Every comedian is furious.”
—– Joan RIvers

” God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.”
—– H. L. Mencken

” You never have a comedian who hasn’t got a very deep strain of sadness within him or her. Every great clown has been very near to tragedy.”
—– Margaret Rutherford

“Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious.”
—– Peter Ustinov

““There is a thin line that separates laughter and pain, comedy and tragedy, humor and hurt.”
—– Erma Bombeck

Bob
Bob
February 17, 2016 3:16 pm

HSF, you truly have lived what Aristotle (I believe it was him) called ‘The Examined Life”.

gilberts
gilberts
February 17, 2016 3:16 pm

Hey, Hardcrabble, if you were at NACA in 95 or 96 in Alabama, we might have partied together. You probably remember me, too, I was the drunk college kid who was saying “Whoo!”.

Sonic
Sonic
February 17, 2016 3:38 pm

The thing that I like about communication on the internet is that you can only see a person through the filter of their words. That is the reason that I like HSF’s writing in particular. His story resonates with mine. No one needs to know how or why; the fact that I feel that resonance is enough. I get a bit tickled by how quasi-defensive HSF gets when people call him out on his comedic past, but while it is probably a deep scar, people can’t help it. When they are around someone that has a deep understanding of something that interests them, especially if they don’t have a deep understanding themselves, they want to ask about it. It can get old, but it is what it is.

I remember standing in the back access hallway of a convention center while the bomb team was inspecting our gear with a team of dogs. The Vice President was going to be giving a stump speech for a local congressman, and the Secret Service was deployed to inspect, protect, and, surprisingly enough, stream/record the speech back to the White House for transcription (and I suspect to notice anything that might have a PR impact). The gentleman I was standing beside in the hallway, nestled as we were between stacks of dishes, hot boxes, and the tea dispensary, was (maybe) 5’4 and about 225 lbs. He was flipping a small knife in his off hand as he scanned the area. He never looked at the knife. Clearly he didn’t need to.

After a few minutes of relative silence…flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip…he leaned over to me and said, “You know about sound and stuff?”

“Yes”, I replied with my eyes still on his knife…flip, flip, flip…

“I’ve got a basement I’m trying to put some surround sound into…you know about that kind of thing?”…flip, flip…

Whether it is medical, technical, artistic, performance, celebrity, or for that matter farming people are consistently captivated by someone being able to do or be something interesting outside of their own abilities. Even though I am reasonably self-aware of this phenomenon, I can’t help but ask people about what they do, how they do it, how they came to do it, why they do it, and what they like (or don’t) about doing it. You never know when you may run across another professional ‘x’ again, or if you ever will get another chance.

People think because my wife has a PhD that she is smart (she is, very). The fact that she married me might undermine that assertion, but a PhD is much less about smart than it is about following a process. I know people who are f’ing brilliant when it comes to coding software, but tying their shoes is a real challenge. Some people are clearly more gifted than others, but most people have a set of skills and abilities that are more associated with their back story than their absolute capability. Similarly everyone is challenged by a list of things that are scary to them, befuddling, or just plain impossible. I could work every day for the rest of my life, but I would never be able to paint like my brother in law. I just can’t see what he sees. I admire his incredible skill, but I don’t feel less a man for my lack of it.

Once upon a time I was on a team. Our sport was an online computer game, a first-person shooter, and we competed against teams from around the world. At one point our three squads were ranked #1, #2, and #5 on the world ladders. On our team was a retired Air Force Colonel, his grandson, his grandson’s friend, a couple of Brazilian businessmen who sold pneumatic elevators, an engineer, at least one salesman, and a list of equally disparate people. Everyone was evaluated on their ability to communicate, perform, and adapt. Until you had been a member for a while there was no way to tell who was what, their age, their education, or any other information that might give you a way of preconceiving who they were. Those details only leaked out after months of playing together in intense competition.

My point is simply that the internet gives you the opportunity to be whoever your ability to communicate allows you to be without the automatic and unavoidable filters of veteran, comic, doctor, police officer, mother, engineer, teacher, etc. Unfortunately once you know these things it is difficult to ignore them. On the team I was on it was easier because those details only came out after you had an established sense of someone through your interactions. Then their revelations could surprise you with their unexpectedness, but they didn’t alter your opinions as much. Except for those on this blog who can track their time back to the first and second iterations of it, few people here have had the opportunity to establish enough of a sense of someone to not have it altered by a surprising revelation.

I can see why it would be hard to put the serious and thoughtful philosopher- farmer in the same mental bucket as the impression of Carrot Top. For those of us who have performed or been around performers it is an easier thing to do. Either way I hope that if you evaluate your own story you will find that there are many things that don’t line up with the image of you that the world sees today. If not you probably need to get out and do more. You only get one journey, so you ought to make it interesting.

fear&loathing
fear&loathing
February 17, 2016 3:46 pm

HSF, if the path you chose was what it took to be where you are now, i am sure it was worth it all. enjoy your writing, TBPF is fortunate indeed to hear your wisdom, we all benefit. maybe i can catch a ride with john angelo if he decides to make the visit to your farm next fall since we are neighbors. i have enjoyed his comments as well as so many others on this site. 2016 has not disappointed, surely there is more to come. mega thanks to jim for making this site so pleasant and informative.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
February 17, 2016 4:07 pm

Well done, HSF. I took a different direction and spent 20 years as a Radio air personality. I worked my way up from flea power-shitty signal AM stations to hot-rocking, flame-throwing major market FM stations. One year I moved 10 times, and I never made a great deal of money (although I DID make a lot of $ for the station owners). One day I decided to hang up my headphones and move into the “other side” of the business selling Radio Advertising and producing my own commercials for my clients. At one station I worked in sales from 10 AM to 5 PM, took a dinner break, then went on-air from 7 PM to Midnight. It was a grueling schedule but I more than doubled my income that year.

When Radio ownership rules changed in the 80’s, Wall St. took over the business and they basically bought up all the stations and fired all the talent to save money. As a result you probably don’t even listen to Radio anymore. I saw where things were headed and finally got the hell out and opened an ad agency. But that’s a story for another day. I’m glad you survived HSF. You’re one of the good ones.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
February 17, 2016 4:37 pm

The longer I hang out at TBP the more fascinated I become by the people who post here. I think there a lot of very interesting stories to be told. Always keeps me coming back…

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
February 17, 2016 4:40 pm

Still one of my favorite bits (and yes I’m aware of Cosby’s issues)… it still cracks me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAYLorGjmo8

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
February 17, 2016 5:12 pm

@HSF: Simply a wonderful post. I learn a little more about you with every post and I find an ever increasing desire to meet you, tour your farm, meet your wife and kids and perhaps if the vibs are right, become your friend.

If you feel the same possibility, just send me an email via Admin – he’s got my email address – and perhaps someday before I leave this veil of tears, I’ll have the opportunity to shake you hand, hug your wife and congratulate you on your choices and your progress along the lines of what really matters in this world.

We all reach our peaceful places (not necessary perfectly peaceful) by following our own paths – subject, of course, to detours tossed into our way by assholes of one variety or another. But you are a marvel, coming from a background as far from a “hardscrabble farmer” as can be conceived, thinking every day of positive outcomes you want to accomplish, raising home-schooled kids and meshing with the real world with as little friction as is imaginative. Hard work, love and understanding of nature and what can be accomplished by following her rules and I cannot imagine a more satisfactory last plus or minus those things that get tossed at you now and then by fate. With an ultra-solid foundation as you, your wife and family have build, however, I can’t think of anything that you and your family cannot overcome with the love, mutual support and common goals that you exhibit in every one of your marvelous writings.

My very best..

MA

fear&loathing
fear&loathing
February 17, 2016 5:52 pm

muck, i am in your corner, our common denominator is we are far from young bucks. neither of us have little to lose in an attempt to preserve our beliefs. even though this site deals with real world somewhat depressing posts, bottom line realism trumps fantasy. we grew up when fantasy was not in the equation except when we were very young listening to fairy tales. reality may be the common bond of this site, even westcoaster has to acknowledge the the truth gets in the way of self serving beliefs. as appealing as bernie and trump are to so many, i would never go into business with them, much less invest in what they have to sell. i could work for stucky, don’t know how long i would last, never any doubt where he stands. a little like a good first sgt, respect trumps everything, respect from me has become a very rare quality, HFS has mine.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
February 17, 2016 7:50 pm

@F&L: I have no self-serving beliefs, however I do know what is in my and my family’s best interest, which is why, among all the other “candidates” we can select from, I choose Bernie Sanders. I realize many who visit here automatically discount him for being a “Democratic Socialist” however few here have stopped to listen to what the Man really says. And that’s tragic, because many of his viewpoints are near Libertarian. And if he accomplish his goals, we’ll all be a lot better off and much more secure. These other chumps are coming for your social security; hope you realize this.

Trump would wind up being a worse President than “W” or Oblunder. Events would happen during his term that would be tragic. Maybe even WWIII. Hell, today he was out there saying Apple should be forced to engineer a “back door” for the iPhone so the fibbies can read that alleged terrorist’s phone contents. He thinks Snowden is a traitor and deserves to hang. More spying on Americans will help make us G-r-e-a-t-!

WTF is he Tony the Tiger? God, I can envision the “Frosted Flakes for Trump” already.

Archie
Archie
February 17, 2016 7:55 pm

Great piece, HSF. Really good. I have long been interested in standup comedy, if only as a craft. As a college teacher, I too, was a kind of standup comedian, “performing” each day to an audience. Only I didn’t have to make them laugh, I had to make them learn the material. I don’t imagine it’s that different. You do become a different person “on stage”. Ask me to give a wedding speech, and I can’t sleep for two weeks since I am too nervous. But, tell me to speak to a group of engineers on the nature of art and there’s no problem.

I remember, oh about 30 years ago, sitting in a club in NYC listening to a certain “uncle dirty” (I think that was his name) tell jokes. It was funny in my memory, though I am sure today I would wince at hearing his routine.

As I have stated on other posts, I have watched HSF’s routine on YouTube. It took a whole lot of creative searching to find him. He is funny, in a 1980’s kind of way. But he is right, comedy isn’t funny. The closest I have found to funny is watching the old friar’s club roasts. Most of it is brilliant. There are no fart jokes or their equivalent. Watch foster brooks roast Don rickles or Sammy Davis. He is spectacular playing the drunk. I admire that kind of talent. How I long for the old days.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
February 17, 2016 10:01 pm

Thanks HSF. I don’t find most of the big name comedians to be all that funny. They certainly have so funny bits but it seems to me that once they hit it big the funniness wore off.

I used to love listening to The Bob & Tom show during the week when they were still on local radio here. The sheer number of comedians moving through that show meant that there was always someone funny in the house. Brian Regan was one of them. One of my favorites though was Tim Wilson. It’s not so much that Tim was the funniest guy (he was funny for sure) but he had intelligence too. Much like you. Tim even wrote a serious book about Ted Bundy and knew more about music than just about anyone I’ve ever heard.

Many comedians on that show talked about the comedy condo too. Most agreed that they’d rather sleep under a bridge than follow John Fox at the comedy condo. Most of the comedians came off as somewhat jaded and few seemed to laugh at anything unless they were relating a story from sometime in their past.

You sound like a well rounded and grounded guy. I’m glad you got out!

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
February 18, 2016 12:23 am

HSF, I might have enjoyed your life story except for a couple of things
1. Don’t recall who said it but he said a good story begins with a perfect hero, then you put that hero through hell.
2. I spent some few weeks at Stucky’s base in Victorville in the transient quarters. At first I took some pleasure in meeting guys passing through, I heard quite a few life stories. A few weeks later, I avoided my room if a body was there, I waited at the club until I was sure the person was asleep.
3. Most everybody’s life makes no sense except when it is written by a biographer who picks and chooses the themes. Otherwise, that’s why we read books and watch movies, to get a good story with a happy ending.
4. Sorry to be the asshole, I got nothing out of this except I see now why I don’t like comedians.

flash
flash
February 18, 2016 8:10 am

Thanks for an interesting read HSF. I’ve been to a few clubs, but never got the forced comedy thing, nor could stand the tobacco smoke for very long. In prerforming some job that I less than like , the question for me is always been how much money. Was it all that ,before the big time?

Made me think of Kerouac, before..

flash
flash
February 18, 2016 9:54 am

speaking of finely tuned sense of humor.. [imgcomment image[/img]

https://www.jebbush.com/

John Angelo
John Angelo
February 18, 2016 7:43 pm

This was the first HSF post I’ve ever read. It was much appreciated as I ate dinner alone at a local pizza parlor this evening, contemplating life. I’m ashamed to admit the following, and it only confirms one of the biases HSF exposed in his article, but whenever I saw the handle “hardscrabble farmer” I passed over the article. Farming has never been an interest of mine and I regrettably equated the moniker with the message. I have a lot of reading to catch up on. Thanks for your new bit, HSF. It has not fallen on deaf ears.

Olde Virginian
Olde Virginian
February 18, 2016 9:18 pm

Baby, you want non-laughable standup, I give it to you…

My name is not John Daker.

starfcker
starfcker
February 19, 2016 2:57 am

The funniest comedy bit I can remember, was Eddie Murphy’s larry the lobster on Saturday night live. It wasn’t just funny in the usual sense, it had drama and an element of extortion. Eddie Murphy wasn’t 20 years old yet. But you knew he would be huge. I never knew any comedians, my buddy dom d’amico’s brother did stand up, and he brought Sam kineson over to watch football. Dude never said a word, just sat there, had the coat and the hat, watched the game, ate some. He wasn’t real big yet, but we had seen him on TV. He was either shy or indifferent to people. Struck me as a strange cat.

D
D
February 19, 2016 4:41 am

Funniest act I ever saw was a guy named Joe Cannon, back in sun Valley, ID around 1978 or so. He got drunk thru his act and just got funnier.

Met Joel McHale one time, and I gotta say that guy is just whip-smart. Incredible.

And…

Now I understand why HSF is such an excellent writer.

Si
Si
February 19, 2016 5:27 am

Thank you HSF.

I don’t know why but there is something deep in this writing which connects. I don’t live in the US, never been in the military, never been a comic or farmer.

It it not just because it is well written, not just because it is a personal journey. I think it may be because, in this age of superficiality, spin, corrupt politics, selfies, and self obsession, it paints a vivid picture of a world outside of main stream media.

That world (of HSF) is a better place.

Si

TJF
TJF
February 19, 2016 11:02 am

Speaking of comedy, what do you think of the idea of chaging the site name to theberningplatform.com? Maybe some of the FSA types will end up here, read some od Admin’s insight and change their minds about feeling the Bern.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
February 19, 2016 10:48 pm

HSF, This was the article of yours that I most enjoyed. I’ve always admired comics because they clearly work very hard and work through some awful circumstances to bring a few needed laughs to people. I played in bands just long enough to know that the road is tough life. Comic, then farmer. Two admirable careers. Husband and father – two more.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
February 19, 2016 11:28 pm

Also, setting foot in that damn Mall of America – cathedral to consumption – is nasty work. I try not to go there more than once every 3-4 years. I’d much rather be elbow deep in pig guts than go to the MOA.

Dis Nigga
Dis Nigga
February 19, 2016 11:34 pm
Dis Nigga
Dis Nigga
February 19, 2016 11:35 pm

Iska, the biggest mall I’ve been to is Southcoast Plaza. How the fuck do these guys stay in bidness?

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
February 19, 2016 11:51 pm

@Dis Nigga

WTF, after listening to that for 3 seconds, I want to kill myself. Is that the point?

Dis Nigga
Dis Nigga
February 20, 2016 12:02 am

If this doesn’t make you kill yourself: