Travelogue: Dubliners

Via The Zman

On the plane ride into Dublin, I sat next to an older man, who was from Kilkenny. He consumed half of the flight boasting about his hometown and his country. The Irish are very proud of being Irish and they are not ashamed to boast about it. People with a strong culture are prone to this and I find it appealing. He was coming back early so he could watch his hurling team in a big match. This allowed him to tell me that the national game of Ireland was the greatest thing in the world. I feel the same way about baseball so I could relate.

The other half of the flight, the back half, he spent asking me about American politics. I got the impression that he wanted to talk politics from the first moment he saw that I was an American. The glories of Ireland stuff was just to butter me up. Of course, he wanted to know about Trump. My assumption was that he thought Trump was terrible, but he was going to be polite until I revealed my allegiances. There was an Ivy Day in the Committee Room quality to our conversation, when another person joined in the discussion of Trump.

The Irish love their politics and I got the sense they were mystified by Trump or maybe mystified as to why Americans are considering him. Alternatively, they may simply have been wondering why a country as big as America is unable to find better options. That’s not an unreasonable question, but there is no answer. Every country can ask the same of their political leaders, so size has nothing to with it. For some reason, politics attracts the sort of people no sensible people should ever want involved in politics. It’s a paradox.

My response when asked why Trump might win was , “Because what comes next would be much worse.” At first I assumed this would elicit questions, but people seemed to understand. Perhaps they were simply being polite, but I came away from every political discussion with the impression that the Irish are fully aware of the dangers that loom just over the horizon. Something has gone wrong and no one knows exactly how to make it right. Tossing out the people currently in charge is simply the option available.

The puzzle they left me was that they never once spoke of Hillary Clinton. They both agreed that Trump was a typical American, by that they meant big and boisterous, as well as a bit silly by their reckoning. Even so, Hillary Clinton has been in politics for almost three decades now. Her husband was president and made a big show of coming to Ireland and pretending he was Irish. I would have expected them to be pro-Clinton and dismissive of Trump. Instead, all they cared about was how a TV guy could become President.

I chewed on that mystery a bit as I walked around the city. Dublin is an old city that does not like being old. All over the city you see efforts to show that Dublin is a modern, hip city, equal to any of the hipster cities around the world. The young people are fully engaged with their phones and seem to be divorced from their past and the past of the city. All over people were quick to tell me that Dublin had the latest of whatever I was inquiring about at the moment. Maybe the locals simply get tired of stupid Americans asking them where the Shire is located.

The the thing about Dublin that will stick with me is the whiteness of the place. There were about 25 thousand Americans in the city for the college football game. In the pubs, you could hear them marveling at the whiteness of Dublin. In America, cities are very diverse and some are dangerously diverse. Portland Oregon is the whitest city in America at about 65%. Dublin is probably 95% white as their immigrants are mostly from eastern Europe. The only blacks I saw were tourists from America.

That is, of course, why you don’t see the police presence you see in other cities. I was at a pub and noticed that the street was packed with young drunk people, but I could not see any cops. As a cab driver told me, if you want trouble you can did it in Dublin, but you have to look for it. In more diverse cities, trouble is always on the prowl so the cops have to be out showing the colors in an effort to keep the peace. I would be lying if I said I thought for a minute that Dublin needed more diversity. It manages to get along just fine without it.

The funny thing I noticed in Ireland was how the city had turned itself into a tourist trap. By that I mean everyone is hooked into Ireland Inc., a community enterprise to sell everything Ireland in an effort to boost tourism. I saw this in Iceland too. I was told by a cabby that after the bust, they figured it was the best way to make money, so the local economy converted quickly to tourism. In fact, the cab drivers were all hilariously over the top in their tourism pitch. Everyone of them I encountered sounded like he was working for the department of tourism. Perhaps they had all been real estate agents.

One of those cab drivers said a funny thing to me. He was pointing out a section that caters to students, when he said it is the one thing he dislikes about driving a taxi. He has to witness the debauchery of the young. “It’s as if they have no respect for themselves, particularly the men. They treat women like whores. How could they ever marry one of them?” Every city, every country, is a city of the dead. We live in the shadows of those who came before us. What spurs on progress is the desire to get out of those shadows and make our lives our own. It’s not without its consequences though, as often the past is where the future lies.

My taxi driver was one of 14 kids. His best friend was one of 18 and his father had a second wife with whom he produced a handful of kids. The taxi driver, a man in his fifties, had four children, but his kids were childless. The Irish fertility rate remains the highest in Europe, but it stands at 2.02. The average age of new mothers is close to 30. The young, those in their 20’s, are not getting married and that is of concern. When you tease out the births to immigrants, the Irish youth seem to be following the same path as the rest of Europe.

A people without children is a nation of dead people, soon to be a forgotten people. It is not a guarantee with the Irish and perhaps the debauchery of their youth is just a temporary phase, but I wonder if I had not just visited a museum without realizing it. Joyce supposedly said Irish history is a nightmare from which they never wake up. That’s no longer the case as Ireland is prosperous and free of the sectarian violence that came to define them for close to a century. Even so, they may have woke from their nightmare to find the future does not include them.

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kokoda
kokoda
September 6, 2016 11:45 am

Tony the Tiger would have liked this.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 6, 2016 12:50 pm

Hurling. Is that what they do after they leave the pub?

Jimmy Torpedo
Jimmy Torpedo
  Iska Waran
September 6, 2016 6:52 pm

Hurling, the greatest sport on Earth! Think lacrosse and Jai Lai combined with rugby and field hockey with a bit of unbridled violence thrown in for good measure. Very Irish indeed. And helmets are a relatively new addition to the sport.

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
September 6, 2016 2:10 pm

You didnt ask him if he ever watched South Park?

Gayle
Gayle
September 6, 2016 2:34 pm

I happen to be in Dublin at the moment. I have been driving around the whole country as well as Northern Ireland for two weeks with an old college friend and have had a wonderful time. I will be flying home tomorrow. Here are a few observations to add to Mr. Zman’s.

The number one thing being discussed is the Apple tax dispute. The Irish don’t want Apple to have to pay because they are afraid Apple will take their toys and go home leaving 4,000 Irish without good jobs. I imagine some compromise will be worked out.

I was never asked a question about Trump, and there were certainly conversations that could have included the topic. I saw a sign in a coffee shop in Northern Ireland that offered a 10% discount to anyone who supported “Dump Trump!” I also overheard some women discussing politics over lunch and one commented with disdain that Nigel Farage had gone to visit America. “He’s finished in England, and now he’s gone over to the US to do his work.” My general impression is that the people are supportive of the EU and its socialistic policies. So of course, young women feel no need to marry early nor to have many children. (In Ireland, however, should you get caught having an abortion, you will be in legal trouble.)

I spoke with three taxi drivers. One was a Bulgarian who was self-conscious about having to come to Ireland to get work because there is no work in his country. The other two were middle-aged Irish who had both been to Vegas and absolutely loved it. I met a lot of Irish who had been to the USA, but I don’t meet many Americans who have visited Ireland.

Belfast looks much more prosperous and up-and-coming than Dublin. The place feels like it is humming and lots of expensive cars are buzzing around. Dublin loves its tourists, of course, but no more than other major cities where you find an equal amount of kitsch for sale.

The Troubles may be over in N. Ireland, but I can assure you the hatred between Catholics and Protestants still boils underneath the surface – this despite the heavy propaganda about what a wonderful peaceful place it now is. But perhaps all the fighting has gotten old.

Irish children all wear uniforms to school. They look so nice; no girls in tight short shorts at school like is permitted in my neck of the woods and no lowrider pants anywhere. We watched some handsome high school boys walk home from school today in their navy blue slacks and sweaters with white shirts and ties. This must set a certain tone at school that is missing where I live. If you wear play clothes to school, you are going to play as opposed to respecting school as a place where you go to be productive. That’s my view anyway.

Ireland is a beautiful bucolic place full of people who can’t help but be friendly. It is still very rural with cows and sheep grazing on emerald hillsides, and charming little towns are everywhere. The history and culture are fascinating (yesterday I visited a church in Drogheda to see the embalmed head of Oliver Plunkett. It has been in the church since the 1600’s. He lost it when, as a priest-reformer, he had the audacity to open a school to teach Protestant and Catholic kids together.)

Anyway, I don’t have quite the same take on Ireland as Zman. Whatever – it’s a great place to spend some time.

Jim
Jim
September 6, 2016 2:52 pm

In the late 1970’s, I visited my grandparent’s village in the west of Ireland and it was delightful. It was a tourist area even back then, mostly young French and Germans, but very low key. They still traded horses on the village green. The thing about the Irish, they always want to know about YOU, and they gave the absolute worst directions; whether you asked about the nearness of the local drug store or Dublin, the answer was always the same–“not far.” I remember Dublin as pretty dingy; it was definitely not the swinging place I hear about now. I’m glad I visited then. My impression is the everyone there is professionally Irish now, and a lot of the charm is gone.

Gayle
Gayle
  Jim
September 6, 2016 7:01 pm

Jim
God bless the Irish. They still give terrible directions.

Thc0665
Thc0665
September 6, 2016 6:52 pm

Manchester, NH, the second largest city in New England, is 86% white.
Population ~ 110,000.