If “Safety” Really Mattered

Guest Post by Eric Peters

In several objective ways, new cars are less “safe” than cars built decades ago.

A strong statement. One that probably seems ridiculous, too, given all the “safety” features new cars have that old cars did not – and also given the fact that new cars must pass a battery of crash tests before they may legally be sold to the public.

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HMS Barham about to roll after being torpedo’d

But “safety” is a slippery thing.

An analogy may help get the point across.

Battleships were considered virtually invulnerable; they had armor belts more than a foot thick in some cases. Then came naval aviation. And the air-dropped torpedo. One or two of these – a few thousand bucks each, maybe – could slide under a battleship’s armor belt (which generally did not extend below the waterline) and make short work of a billion-dollar capital ship.

How “safe” is the new car you can’t see very well out of – because of over-tall headrests and up-high beltlines and girder-thick roof support pillars – vs. the pre-“safe” car that gave you an excellent view of what was coming at you from the side and behind?

Do anti-lock brakes encourage some drivers to tailgate? Does traction control encourage some people to drive too fast on slick roads? Have higher grip thresholds given people a false sense of security? Eighty MPH in a modern car doesn’t feel as fast as 60 did in the pre-“safety” era.

The physics haven’t changed, just the perception.

The new car is probably (though not necessarily) more crashworthy. But which is more likely to be involved in a crash?     

Much of government-mandated “safety” is reactive – it is about making cars “safer” to crash. More survivable when you wreck. Air bags fall into this category.

It would probably be safer to avoid the crash.

That used to be the emphasis. It’s not any more. Less and less is expected of the driver. More and more is demanded of the car. Even to the extent of simple competences such as parallel parking, which – we give up – is now in many cars handled automatically by a computer, which takes over and steers the car into its slot. The “driver” merely pushes a button.

One could make a pretty solid case that a person not able to parallel park a car on their own is probably not a “safe” driver.

The car is expected to have skills and be aware. The driver not so much.

“Safety” is also incoherent.

For example, on the one hand, the government makes a fuss about distracted driving and yet not a peep about new cars with so many distracting electronic gadgets it’s a miracle anyone makes it a week without at least a fender-bender. Pecking at a smartphone keyboard is an actionable offense – but it’s ok to fiddle with the car’s built-in touchscreen “infotainment” system. Which – in many new cars – has Internet access and does pretty much everything (and sometimes, more than) a smartphone does.

It is probably not “safe” to drive with someone ringing a bell or flashing a light in your face. Yet most new cars have “safety” systems that do exactly that, in some cases incessantly and for no good reason. The steering wheel vibrates like Titanic’s tiller as the doomed ship scraped past the iceberg every time a tire grazes a painted line in the road (Lane Departure Warning). A frantic red light flashes on the dashboard – and the brakes suddenly come on, jerking you forward without warning – because another car 20 yards ahead is slowing down or there is a cyclist off to the right (Collision Avoidance Mitigation/Automated Braking).

The presumption being you are too addled to anticipate, too slow-witted and low-skilled to react properly and in time.

Maybe go back to pecking at the smartphone – or fiddling with the LCD touchscreen. Why not?

People think their vehicle is “safe” to drive because on a given day, it was inspected by an Official Safety Inspector. And probably it was. But what about three months from now? By then, the brake pads (or tires) that were still ok – “safe” as defined by the government – have worn to the point of no longer being very safe at all. But the sticker on the window says the car is “safe” to drive!

And so many drivers assume it is.

Technically, the law requires them to keep up with the condition of their vehicle; to note whether the tires are going bald and the brake pads getting close to needing to be replaced. But because the car has a valid inspection sticker, many people don’t bother until some event confronts them with the reality that, in fact, the tires have gone bald or the brake pads are worn out.

In the pre-inspection era, people were motivated to keep track of the condition of their vehicles. Today, that responsibility is passed off onto an inspector.

Which era was “safer”?

Old people with arthritic limbs, slow reaction times and poor vision are by definition impaired relative to younger people not yet afflicted with those woes of the aging process. Yet that form of impairment isn’t considered the “safety” hazard that having even trace amounts of alcohol in one’s system is.

There are no Senile Citizen checkpoints. And if a glaucomic geriatric blows a red light and kills someone, the legal consequences will – usually – be far less severe than those faced by a driver who didn’t blow a red light or into anyone but did blow a BAC above the percentage that arbitrarily defines “drunk” driving.

Which form of impairment constitutes the greater “safety” threat?

In many states, there are laws against dark-tinted windows. Ostensibly because it is not “safe.” Likewise mandatory buckle-up laws. And yet, government workers – cops – are exempted from these laws. Is it “safe” for them to drive cars with dark tinted windows and not buckled up? If so, how so?

And if not, why are we hassled for doing the same?

“Safety” is in the eye of the beholder – and the pen of the regulator.

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Pete H
Pete H
March 1, 2017 10:18 am

You can make the car as “safe” as you want. Trouble is; you can’t make “stupid” “safe.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Pete H
March 1, 2017 10:24 am

That’s the purpose of the coming self driving cars.

Fergus
Fergus
  Anonymous
March 1, 2017 8:35 pm

Really? You better who is doing the “self” driving then.

Pinwheel
Pinwheel
  Anonymous
March 1, 2017 10:55 pm

So everyones car becomes a bus. Great. That ought to drive sales. You take people out of the driving equation and they wont value that expensive shit box quite so much. A nation of self driving electric smart car shit boxes . Great. I was shopping a 67 c10 longbed daily driver. It has a cassette deck. And its busted. I just about came right then and there. Three grand. Straight six. Three on the tree. Actual metal bumpers. Like time travel.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Pete H
March 1, 2017 11:42 pm

The most effective and cheapest safety device is a big rusty spike stuck on the middle of the steering wheel. Stops speeding immediately and makes everyone a much better driver.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 1, 2017 10:26 am

“In several objective ways, new cars are less “safe” than cars built decades ago.”

So with so many more cars on the road now than then, and with congestion much higher along with total miles driven, are traffic deaths and serious injuries per mile driven going up or down?

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Anonymous
March 1, 2017 11:16 am

Deaths for vehicle miles traveled have steadily decreased:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

1980xls
1980xls
  Dutchman
March 3, 2017 7:55 am

They have been on a steady downtrend for decades, with the exception on the last few years.
Many believe (as I do) too many distractions from electronics, overly complex and distracting In-Car infotainment systems and things like Texting may be the culprit.

javelin
javelin
  Anonymous
March 1, 2017 5:03 pm

How could anyone down vote THE question about this topic which is most pertinent?

Simply put, there are FAR LESS accidents and fatalities per driver and/or miles driven now than there were 40 or 50 years ago.
The simple airbag and car seats save thousands per year alone.

Lawfish
Lawfish
March 1, 2017 10:39 am

Thanks to the government, you are now unable to purchase a simple, affordable car. What if I don’t want all that gadgetry and safety garbage? Too bad, you have to have it. Thus the $30,000 basic car.

When I was in law school, we studied the famous exploding Pinto case. The plaintiff’s theme was that it would only have cost Ford $5.00 to make the gas tank safe and therefore save the life of plaintiff’s son. That is, however, patently incorrect. If Ford sold 5,000,000 Pintos that year, it would have cost Ford $25,000,000 to make that one tank safe and therefore save the life of the son. Because the safety feature has to be put in every single car sold, not just the one that got rear-ended.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Lawfish
March 1, 2017 11:30 am

Most of the gadgetry isn’t related to safety, or even emissions.

Last year I had to rent a vehicle while mine was in the shop and ended up with a brand new Dodge pickup that had an interior that looked more like an airliner cockpit than a motor vehicle, and the luxury of it was more like I would expect in Rolls Royce than in a pickup truck.

Even the radio was a high tech mystery, never managed to figure out how to work it during the weak I had it.

That truck was a good 40 grand in price, it even had a warning that they key would cost 300 bucks to replace if it was lost.

Got a friend that flies commercial airliners for a living and he said his wife bought a new car a year ago and they still haven’t figured out how to make all the gadgetry work, or even what all of it does for sure.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Lawfish
March 1, 2017 11:34 am

“What if I don’t want all that gadgetry and safety garbage?”

You mean like seat belts / air bags / and built in things like reinforced doors, reinforced roofs?

These features do save lives, and protect people from greater injury. I would guess that the $savings in lives and medical are far greater than the cost of the air bags, etc.

This is a public health matter. All people are afforded the protection.

You and Eric present these absurd arguments that are based on car manufacturer standards in the 1960’s. That was 57 years ago. Things change – get over it.

Ed
Ed
  Dutchman
March 1, 2017 11:43 am

If you’re going to paste in a question from the article, why not answer the question instead of making a speech about how absurd it is?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Ed
March 1, 2017 11:57 am

Pointing out it is absurd and showing why is an answer to it.

Fergus
Fergus
  Dutchman
March 1, 2017 8:38 pm

What reinforced roofs? Cars today weigh less and have less structurally strong materials then 30 years ago. When I was a kid my father used to dare me to push in the steel of the car as a test of my strength.

Today he can push in the current car’s pannels and he’s 92. Tell me about how safe cars are today. I’ve seen the damage a minor fender bender does. I doubt you have a better chance of walking away from a head on 30 mph crash today than 30 years ago.

1980xls
1980xls
  Fergus
March 3, 2017 7:57 am

While Eric’s comments about complex safety systems bordering on causing distractions, possibly increasing the possibility of accidents may raise legitimate questions, those that claim old cars were tough and more safe when actually involved in collisions. are ignorant of the facts. New cars are design to sacrifice themselves to minimize impacts to their occupants.
Unforgiving sturdy cars are not “Safe” Just ask Dale Earnhardt, and why what looked like a minor incident resulted in Death.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
March 1, 2017 11:33 am

That’s certainly the truth about the super wide roof support pillars in between the windshield and the side window on my Nissan Titan. Lord, they block so much of the view to my right that I have driven directly in front of another car several times and believe me, I’m super careful but the oncoming car can match my truck’s creeping speed and stay virtually out of sight.

I now stop and remain stopped more then long enough for a car traveling directly hidden by these pillars to come into view. Heaven help me if I ever have to make a quick decision and only get a brief glance to see if the coast is clear.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MMinLamesa
March 1, 2017 12:03 pm

How many degrees of angle do they block and how long does it take for a moving vehicle close enough to be blocked by it to clear your blocked vision?

Rolling stops are an obvious danger, but I’m thinking a moving vehicle in the blinded area would only take a fractional second of stop to clear it.

Especially if you’re stopped behind the stop line instead of partially or fully in front of it.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
March 1, 2017 11:58 am

Lawfish says:
March 1, 2017 at 10:39 am
Thanks to the government, you are now unable to purchase a simple, affordable car. What if I don’t want all that gadgetry and safety garbage? Too bad, you have to have it. Thus the $30,000 basic car.

When I was in law school, we studied the famous exploding Pinto case. The plaintiff’s theme was that it would only have cost Ford $5.00 to make the gas tank safe and therefore save the life of plaintiff’s son. That is, however, patently incorrect. If Ford sold 5,000,000 Pintos that year, it would have cost Ford $25,000,000 to make that one tank safe and therefore save the life of the son. Because the safety feature has to be put in every single car sold, not just the one that got rear-ended.
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The original Ford Mustang had exactly the same design as the pinto…namely the frame ended at the rear axle, but the gasoline tank was behind it thus only protected by sheet metal. The rear bumper itself was only attached to sheet metal. I had a 65 mustang years ago and was rear ended slightly. The bumper was pushed it about three or four inches. This alone was enough to penetrate the gas tank and create a leak. I don’t recall any issue being made of that.

Mark Gault
Mark Gault
March 1, 2017 12:59 pm

The other day I came up to a stop sign. There was a motorcyclist coming from the right who managed to remain behind my right (wide) A pillar the entire time of my approach. He did not come into view until I started forward from the stop, at which time I slammed on the breaks.
Close one.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mark Gault
March 1, 2017 1:35 pm

So when you stopped he remained behind the pillar?

I fail to understand how this can happen if you were slowing unless he was deliberately slowing to remain in the same relative position as well.

Or how it would be possible for him to remain behind it if you had actually come to a stop.

Examine your driving habits before you run over someone, and come to a full stop and look when you come to a stop sign.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  Anonymous
March 2, 2017 9:09 am

Dude, the fucking pillar is 15 inches wide at the bottom. And then the rear view mirror is in line with that bottom too. Add another 10 inches. That’s over 2 feet of sight blocked to my right. It doesn’t matter if I come to a complete stop. To ascertain whether the coast is clear, you have to slide over in the seat(it’s a bucket seat BTW) and crank your neck to see around and down the rear view mirror.

I’m 65 and have never been in any kind of an accident-I’m just telling you that I believe these pillars are way overdone.

So you can quit your fucking sermonizing.

Aquapura
Aquapura
March 1, 2017 1:35 pm

I will agree that there is an over proportional focus on “drunk” driving and not the overarching aspect of reckless driving. Would challenge anyone to prove a regular drinker with BAC of .08 is more of a danger behind the wheel than a trucker who hasn’t slept in 20 hours. Don’t get me started on the geezers that won’t drive with the flow of traffic and cannot react to rapidly changing road conditions.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Aquapura
March 1, 2017 1:51 pm

How many truckers on the road haven’t slept in 20 hours and how do they get through check stations without their logbooks showing they have been driving longer than the maximum 10 hours per day?

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/regulatory-impact-analysis-hours-service-final-rule-december-2011

I think you need a different argument.

Fergus
Fergus
  Aquapura
March 1, 2017 8:41 pm

A far greater danger are kids who think they can’t be injured and are texting or on the phone, or those fearless tailgaters. My favorites are the idiots who weave in and out of lanes, ten mph above the speed limits knowing that signals are strictly optional equipment. I’ll take my chance with truckers anyday, skippy.

Lawfish
Lawfish
March 1, 2017 1:36 pm

Sorry, Anonymous, but if I don’t want to pay for certain safety features and am willing to risk my own safety as a result, that should be my right. But I don’t have that right because the safety Nazis dictate that every car has to be super-duper safe, thereby making it super-duper expensive. If I’m willing to take extra risk in order to save money, that should be my business, not the government’s.

I wear my seatbelt and I’m a very defensive driver. One at-fault accident in 36 years of driving, and that was when I was 17. But I have to pay for the same safety features every dip-shit phone-mesmerized obese idiot who can’t drive worth shit has to have.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Lawfish
March 1, 2017 1:58 pm

As long as you give a full liability release for anyone maiming or killing you in an accident I have no problem with you doing without the safety features that have only your own safety at risk.

Same way I have no problem with motorcyclists going without a helmet, but not goggles or a face shield that puts others at danger. Unfortunately, there is no liability release involved in a motorcyclist without a helmet dying of a head injury or being brain damaged in a crash, if you’re at all responsible you are held fully responsible for his or her very preventable injury.

But I don’t write the laws, and neither do you, so we live with what we have. There is not going to be a repeal of safety laws, and I doubt a measurable percentage of Americans would support it it it were tried.

Lawfish
Lawfish
  Anonymous
March 1, 2017 3:17 pm

It won’t matter in a few years as cars will be a thing of the past. I don’t need the nanny state looking after me. I’m a big boy.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Lawfish
March 1, 2017 4:30 pm

OK Lawfish – let’s roll back the clock to 1960. Radios were optional, as was A/C, and automatic transmissions, and electric windows.

It’s all standard. The cars are meant to be purchased off the lot. All that optional stuff is a thing of the past. A car can be shipped to the south or the north. In the south you won’t need a rear window defroster or heated seats. But the manufacturers don’t know where the car will be sold or resold.

I live and commute in a smaller city – Minneapolis. The Blind Spot (lane departure) is really nice when you’re on the freeway and trying to change lanes. I can see a use for the automatic breaking. You’re in traffic, going 30 mph, you want to change lanes, you look at your mirror for 2 seconds, you look forward and the guy in front of you is stopped! I see at least one accident like this a month. Backup cameras are great in parking lots (like Costco, Home Depot). Anti-lock brakes and traction control are very helpful in icy conditions.

Just because the option wasn’t there in 1960, doesn’t mean it’s not worthwhile.

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
March 1, 2017 3:08 pm

The false sense of security that “safety” features bring is its own problem.
Without a mind behind the wheel and alert, prompt reflexes there is no safety. My mother got her driver’s license in the mail a few months back – she is 93, and has given up driving on her own volition. She MIGHT drive in an extreme emergency, but I think she’d call a neighbor first – she is weak, has frequent pain and poor vision.
Those who drive impaired have no excuse unless a situational emergency demands them drive someone in danger to a doctor. Those who drive incapable are risking themselves and others.
We truly value our auto-nomy, to the point that others just don’t matter enough. Oh well, experience teaches a harsh school, but there are those who will learn in no other.

KaD
KaD
March 1, 2017 7:48 pm

I knew a lady that drove an old Toronado solid metal gunboat. Got hit head on by a semi that veered into her lane, walked away from that. She swore she’d never drive anything else.

Macumazahn
Macumazahn
March 3, 2017 2:22 am

“Telematics.” What a crock. I don’t want anything displayed on the dashboard that doesn’t contribute directly to the operation of the vehicle. RPM, speed, water temp, oil temp, fuel level and failure indicator lamps. Not the details of whatever song might be coming in on the radio.
I’m thinking of replacing my 2002 Audi A6 Turbo Quattro. The first problem came when I discovered that Audi has pretty much abandoned the manual transmission. If I’m willing to consider an automatic, I’ll still be faced with a bunch of useless telematics. I don’t give a shit if the car can pair with my iPhone – I don’t have a fucking iPhone. The ONLY worthwhile feature I could see was the navigation.
Looks like I’ll be nursing my baby along until I find a nice used BMW with a manual transmission and no idiot telematics.