The Crash of 1929 – But somewhere, deep down, they knew the party was over

Via Jesse

“…people believed that everything was going to be great always, always. There was a feeling of optimism in the air that you cannot even describe today.”

“There was great hope. America came out of World War I with the economy intact. We were the only strong country in the world. The dollar was king. We had a very popular president in the middle of the decade, Calvin Coolidge, and an even more popular one elected in 1928, Herbert Hoover. So things looked pretty good.”

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“The economy was changing in this new America. It was the dawn of the consumer revolution. New inventions, mass marketing, factories turning out amazing products like radios, rayon, air conditioners, underarm deodorant…One of the most wondrous inventions of the age was consumer credit. Before 1920, the average worker couldn’t borrow money. By 1929, “buy now, pay later” had become a way of life.”

“Wall Street got the credit for this prosperity and Wall Street was dominated by just a small group of wealthy men. Rarely in the history of this nation had so much raw power been concentrated in the hands of a few businessmen…”

“One of the most common tactics was to manipulate the price of a particular stock, a stock like Radio Corporation of America…Wealthy investors would pool their money in a secret agreement to buy a stock, inflate its price and then sell it to an unsuspecting public. Most stocks in the 1920s were regularly manipulated by insiders ”

“I would say that practically all the financial journals were on the take. This includes reporters for The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Herald-Tribune, you name it. So if you were a pool operator, you’d call your friend at The Times and say, “Look, Charlie, there’s an envelope waiting for you here and we think that perhaps you should write something nice about RCA.” And Charlie would write something nice about RCA. A publicity man called A. Newton Plummer had canceled checks from practically every major journalist in New York City… Then, they would begin to — what was called “painting the tape” and they would make the stock look exciting. They would trade among themselves and you’d see these big prints on RCA and people will say, “Oh, it looks as though that stock is being accumulated. Now, if they are behind it, you want to join them, so you go out and you buy stock also. Now, what’s happening is the stock goes from 10 to 15 to 20 and now, it’s at 20 and you start buying, other people start buying at 30, 40. The original group, the pool, they’ve stopped buying. They’re selling you the stock. It’s now 50 and they’re out of it. And what happens, of course, is the stock collapses.”

“The pools were a little like musical chairs. When the music stopped, somebody owned the stocks and those were the sufferers. If small investors suffered, they would soon be back for more. They knew the game was rigged, but maybe next time, they could beat the system. Wall Street had its critics, among them economist Roger Babson. He questioned the boom and was accused of lack of patriotism, of selling America short.”

“Roger Babson warned of the speculation and said, “There’s going to be a crash and the aftermath is going to be quite terrible.” And people jumped on Babson from all around for saying such a thing, so that people who were cautious about their personal reputation, who did not want to call down on themselves a lot of calumny, kept quiet.”

“Politicians came and went, but in the 20s, the businessman was king.”

“With everyone trying to borrow money to cover the falling value of their stocks, there was a credit crunch. Interest rates soared. At 20 percent, few people could afford to borrow more money. The boom was about to collapse like a house of cards.”

“…the National City Bank would provide $25 million of credit…immediately, the credit crisis was alleviated. In fact, within the next 24 hours, call money went from 20 percent to eight percent and that stopped the panic, then, in March [1929]”

“Everything was not fine that spring with the American economy. It was showing ominous signs of trouble. Steel production was declining. The construction industry was sluggish. Car sales dropped. Customers were getting harder to find. And because of easy credit, many people were deeply in debt. Large sections of the population were poor and getting poorer.”

“Just as Wall Street had reflected a steady growth in the economy throughout most of the 20s, it would seem that now the market should reflect the economic slowdown. Instead, it soared to record heights. Stock prices no longer had anything to do with company profits, the economy or anything else. The speculative boom had acquired a momentum of its own.”

“It was this nature of mass illusion. Prices were going up, people bought. That forced prices up further, that brought in more people. And eventually, the process becomes self-perpetuating. Every increase brings in more people convinced of their God-given right to get rich.”

“The 20s was a decade of all sorts of fast money schemes. Three years earlier, everyone was buying Florida real estate. As prices of land skyrocketed, more people jumped in, hoping to make a killing. Then, overnight, the boom turned to bust and investors lost everything.”

“On September 5th, economist Roger Babson gave a speech to a group of businessmen. ‘Sooner or later, a crash is coming and it may be terrific.’ He’d been saying the same thing for two years, but now, for some reason, investors were listening. The market took a severe dip. They called it the “Babson Break.” The next day, prices stabilized, but several days later, they began to drift lower. Though investors had no way of knowing it, the collapse had already begun.”

“…the market fluctuated wildly up and down. On September 12th, prices dropped ten percent. They dipped sharply again on the 20th. Stock markets around the world were falling, too. Then, on September 25th, the market suddenly rallied.”

“Reuben L. Cain, Stock Salesman, 1929: I remember well that I thought, “Why is this doing this?” And then I thought, “Well, I’m new here and these people” — like every day in the paper, Charlie Mitchell would have something to say, the J.P. Morgan people would have something to say about how good things were — and I thought, “Well, they know a lot more about this market than I do. I’m fairly new here and I really can’t see why it’s going up.” But then, when they say it can’t go down or if it does go down today, it’ll go back tomorrow, you think, “Well, they really are like God. They know it all and it must be the way it’s going because they say so.”

“As the market floundered, financial leaders were as optimistic as ever, more so. Just five days before the crash, Thomas Lamont, acting head of the highly conservative Morgan Bank, wrote a letter to President Hoover. “The future appears brilliant. Our securities are the most desirable in the world.”

“Practically every business leader in American and banker, right around the time of 1929, was saying how wonderful things were and the economy had only one way to go and that was up.”

“There came a Wednesday, October 23rd, when the market was a little shaky, weak. And whether this caused some spread of pessimism, one doesn’t know. It certainly led a lot of people to think they should get out. And so, Thursday, October the 24th — the first Black Thursday — the market, beginning in the morning, took a terrific tumble. The market opened in an absolutely free fall and some people couldn’t even get any bids for their shares and it was wild panic. And an ugly crowd gathered outside the stock exchange and it was described as making weird and threatening noises. It was, indeed, one of the worst days that had ever been seen down there.”

“There was a glimmer of hope on Black Thursday…About 12:30, there was an announcement that this group of bankers would make available a very substantial sum to ease the credit stringency and support the market. And right after that, Dick Whitney made his famous walk across the floor of the New York Stock Exchange…. At 1:30 in the afternoon, at the height of the panic, he strolled across the floor and in a loud, clear voice, ordered 10,000 shares of U.S. Steel at a price considerably higher than the last bid. He then went from post to post, shouting buy orders for key stocks.”

“And sure enough, this seemed to be evidence that the bankers had moved in to end the panic. And they did end it for that day. The market then stabilized and even went up.”

“But Monday was not good. Apparently, people had thought about things over the weekend, over Sunday, and decided maybe they might be safer to get out. And then came the real crash, which was on Tuesday, when the market went down and down and down, without seeming limit…Morgan’s bankers could no longer stem the tide. It was like trying to stop Niagara Falls. Everyone wanted to sell.”

“In brokers’ offices across the country, the small investors — the tailors, the grocers, the secretaries — stared at the moving ticker in numb silence. Hope of an easy retirement, the new home, their children’s education, everything was gone.”

“At the end of 1929, as they celebrated New Year’s Eve, all that lay in the future. Nobody knew that the Great Depression was coming — unemployment, bread lines, bank failures — this was unimaginable. But the bubble had burst. Gone was that innocent optimism, the confidence, the illusion of wealth without work. One era had ended. They toasted the coming of the 30s, but somewhere, deep down, they knew the party was over.”

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rhs jr
rhs jr
July 1, 2017 11:41 am

This is a different Market and will be a different crash but a crash is still a crash to the dead victims. To bad TPTB who are “flying the plane” won’t be on board but I heard a prophet of God say that He will drown them like rats in their DUMBs and drop the NYC bankers laughing at Goy in the basements of their banks right into boiling lava. The True God of vengeance who’s Son the “Chosen” crucified has not been laughing with them.

Fiatman60
Fiatman60
July 1, 2017 12:27 pm

This time will be different……..
It will be the worst depression EVER!!!
Future generations will ask “what the hell were they thinking?”

BL
BL
July 1, 2017 12:43 pm

Ten bucks says TPTB’s money will completely “exit stage left” out of the market before the giant crashing sound is heard, AGAIN. Hmmm, how do those lucky ducks always make the BEST moves?

Unreconstructed Southerner
Unreconstructed Southerner
July 1, 2017 1:04 pm

Yellin recently said we won’t see another market crash in our lifetime. If that isn’t the kiss of death I don’t know what is. When it happens look for a total lockdown of money. Bank accounts, IRAs, safe deposit boxes, you name it. Best to have some cash at home if you can.

POW
POW
  Unreconstructed Southerner
July 1, 2017 1:49 pm

These old films clips from America’s roaring twenties were quite similar to films of thirties Germany.
Both countries were strong with nothing but “Blue Skies” from then on.

Searcher After Truth
Searcher After Truth
July 1, 2017 1:56 pm

Over half of the stocks on the exchanges are owned by municipalities or public entities. They are in off-budget accounts. The accounting for these is only found on the comprehensive annual financial reports that every public entity is required by law to have.
When the TBTF banks leave the market, they will leave the government entities holding the bag of crashed stocks and bonds. The banks will not be holding any stocks or bonds to crash. You can guess who will have to pick up the bill; the tax payers.
Check out: http://cafr1.com/

BL
BL
July 1, 2017 2:56 pm

When the crash goes down, and it will, watch the talking heads act completely surprised as if NOBODY could have seen it coming. That is amazing to me that the sheep keep playing with their hard earned cash and geezus they never learn.

((Wall Street)) is banking that you will sign back up on the next sucker ride after some time passes. Is suckerdom generational or is it because they trust the media advice to be truthful?

Rise Up
Rise Up
July 1, 2017 3:24 pm
Hondo
Hondo
July 1, 2017 7:11 pm

Rather anyone can grasp this is immaterial. But the fact is, there will never be another great depression. It is simply an impossibility. Yes, the economy is teetering and will crash, but this time around it will be chaos, martial law, starvation, and megadeath from all angles. The cities will burn, the countrysides will be devoured with violence, and there will be no return to the normal we now know. Hell on earth will be the new norm, and the only escape will be through death itself. And for those that have allowed themselves to be beguiled and so stupidly believe they will be raptured out of this mess deserve just what they get. Harsh, but deserving, and true. thanks

Hagar
Hagar
July 1, 2017 8:25 pm

They are still singing that song….

Blue skies
Smiling at me
Nothing but blue skies
Do I see
IRVING BERLIN
…and so many still do not see.

TampaRed
TampaRed
July 1, 2017 8:58 pm

Off topic but this is a great short article about Bernie Sanders and his corruption.
from tothepoint.com

Friday, 30 June 2017
Schadenfreudelicious. That’s what this week’s HFR is going to be. But before we get to the big stuff (per the NY Post above), let’s talk about a woman named Carina Driscoll.

Born in Virginia in 1974, the daughter of Dave and Jane Driscoll, she went to college in Montana, ended up moving to Vermont where she started a woodworking school in 2007.

It struggled until a tiny little college with an enrollment of less than 200 students and an annual budget of $4 million started giving Carina’s Vermont Woodworking School – with nothing written or contractual – hundreds of thousands of dollars starting in 2009.

To understand why, we need to go back to 1981 when her mother Jane started working in the office of the Mayor of Burlington. She started having an affair with the mayor, divorced her husband, and in 1988 married the mayor. His name was Bernie Sanders.

Bernie got himself elected to Congress in 1990, and in 2004 got Jane appointed president of Burlington College with a six-figure salary. We all know now that the FBI is investigating the fraudulent $10 million loan scheme to the college engineered by Jane lying on the bank application forms and Bernie pressuring the bank to grant the loan.

It’s now being called Berniegate. You can expect, however, for Jane’s using that fraudulent money as a nepotistic subsidy of her daughter will soon be under the FBI microscope.

As detailed by the legendary (in Vermont) researchers at VTDigger.org, Jane gave Carina over $500,000 of Burlington College money from 2009 to 2012 – all without any written agreement or contract whatever.

“In 2011 — the same year Burlington College racked up a $553,180 deficit — the institution paid $138,571 to the Vermont Woodworking School for space and materials. In 2012, the college plunged further into debt, ending the year nearly $760,000 in the red. That year, the woodworking school received $182,741 in rental costs alone.”
It’s the impossible hypocrisy of insufferably self-important Bernie that’s infuriating of lot of liberals. Last January, Jane Sanders delivered the commencement address at her alma mater, Vermont’s Goddard College, entitled “A Commitment to Social Justice and Inclusion.”

This prompted one Vermont liberal to condemn Jane’s farce in Nepotism at Burlington College. Bye-bye, Bernie.

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Just so you know why the knives are suddenly out for Bernie. It’s the Democrat Party’s replay of the hatred between Nazis and Communists.

Both are variants of criminally insane Leftism. Both are Marxist calling itself Socialist – as in Hitler’s National Socialism(“Nazi” comes from how the first part of how National is pronounced in German: nat-zee-oh-nahl), and Lenin’s Union of Soviet Socialist Republics or USSR.

The difference is that Communism or international socialism was based on class warfare – “Workers of the world, unite!” – with the good guys being proletariats, and the bad guys exploiters, no matter their race, ethnicity, or nationality.

Hitler hated this, so he created his national socialism based on identity politics – with the good guys being Germans and other Aryan ubermenschen superiors and bad guys being Jews, Slavs, and other untermenschen inferiors.

Bernie Sanders is an old class warfare Commie on the side of “the workers” – which is why he hates the identity politics of the Nazi Left demonizing Whites as the New Jews.

Identity politics runs the Democrat Party show now, which hates Bernie for supporting poor and working class whites.

As Bernie is advocating the actual break-up and destruction of the Democrat Party with him forming his own new party, the Democrat elite has given marching orders to their minions in the FBI – take Bernie down and out. Start with the easy target of his corrupt wife.

Advice to the Trump White House and the GOP: Take Napoleon’s adage to heart – “Never interfere with your enemy while he is in the process of destroying himself.”

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MrLiberty
MrLiberty
July 1, 2017 9:33 pm

The country did NOT come out of WW1 with the economy intact. In fact, there was a panic in 1920-21 that statistically was WORSE than the crash of 1929. The difference? Harding and the Fed did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. They recognized that it was all the result of wartime readjustments that were needed and so they LET THEM HAPPEN. Meanwhile, Harding’s Secretary of Commerce was appalled that Harding did nothing and demanded that the government step in and make things “OK.” Thankfully for the US at the time, Harding didn’t listen to this clown and instead allowed the malinvestment and unsustainable businesses that thrived under wartime conditions to simply fail or readjust to the new peacetime economy. Was their pain? You bet. But it lasted 1 year or so….that’s it. In 1929 however, the government decided it had to do everything it could to KEEP the malinvestments in place, keep the failed businesses operating, etc. It should come as no surprise that the same clown Sec. of Commerce under Harding was Herbert Hoover. He began the New Deal interventions in the economy that FDR continued with gusto. Even the socialists in the economics department at UCLA wrote about a decade ago, that everything that Hoover and FDR did PROLONGED the first Great Depression WAY longer than it needed to last. Today we see the dotcom collapse of the 90s, the housing bubble collapse of the 2000s, and so many others all being propped up by the Fed with brand new bubbles being created that are rewarding the same failures that should have left the market decades ago.
Here is one of MANY great articles on the panic of 1920. Plenty more on mises.org
https://mises.org/library/forgotten-depression-1920

Rojam
Rojam
  MrLiberty
July 1, 2017 10:21 pm

MrLiberty, you talk about things not well known, but spot on true. You list sites not well read, but economically and historically correct. Just wondering: are you a Tom Woods/Andrew Napolitano/Lew Rockwell/Robert Murphy/Ron Paul/Kevin Gutzman reader?

Anonymous
Anonymous
July 1, 2017 10:43 pm

Schadenfreudeliciousepealodocious

Frederick N
Frederick N
July 1, 2017 11:33 pm

Fascinating video especially regarding:
1. Corruption in the markets and in the media
2. The prevailing psychology of the times
3. Pundits and the nature of their predictions

Chicago Daily Tribune September 7, 1929: “Bull Traders Make Whoopee on Wall Street”

Anon
Anon
July 2, 2017 11:59 am

Mr. Liberty. Absolutely spot on. The 1921 crash was like a forest fire. Wholesale destruction of the dead wood, but real growth afterwards. The whole reason 1929 gets all the press, is because it is supposed to teach people that government / the Fed, has a place at the table if anything is supposed to be fixed. It is the same reason why you never here a story on CNN about an armed citizen using his 2nd amendment rights in a mall and saving the lives of several people. It is always the narrative that the hero in blue is the savior, and the “gun nut” just made things worse. Yea, ok. The 1921 crash demonstrates that there is no place at the table for government, and these “problems” will sort themselves out if capitalism, and the existing legal framework of bankruptcy was used. We can’t have people figure that out, or else liberty, prudence and independence may grow.