In the Murk

Guest Post by Jim Kunstler

Puerto Rico, You lovely island,
Island of tropical breezes….
            — West Side Story

Welcome to America’s first experiment in the World Made By Hand lifestyle. Where else is it going? Watch closely.

Ricardo Ramos, the director of the beleaguered, government-owned Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority, told CNN Thursday that the island’s power infrastructure had been basically “destroyed” and will take months to come back

“Basically destroyed.” That’s about as basic as it gets civilization-wise.

Residents, Mr. Ramos said, would need to change the way they cook and cool off. For entertainment, old-school would be the best approach, he said. “It’s a good time for dads to buy a ball and a glove and change the way you entertain your children.”


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Meaning, I guess, no more playing Resident Evil 7: Biohazard on-screen because you’ll be living it — though one wonders where will the money come from to buy the ball and glove? Few Puerto Ricans will be going to work with the power off. And the island’s public finances were in disarray sufficient to drive it into federal court last May to set in motion a legal receivership that amounted to bankruptcy in all but name. The commonwealth, a US territory, was in default for $74 billion in bonded debt, plus another $49 billion in unfunded pension obligations.

So, Puerto Rico already faced a crisis pre-Hurricane Maria, with its dodgy electric grid and crumbling infrastructure: roads, bridges, water and sewage systems. Bankruptcy put it in a poor position to issue new bonds for public works which are generally paid for with public borrowing. Who, exactly, would buy the new bonds? I hear readers whispering, “the Federal Reserve.” Which is a pretty good clue to understanding the circle-jerk that American finance has become.

Some sort of bailout is unavoidable, though President Trump tweeted “No Bailout for Puerto Rico” after the May bankruptcy proceeding. Things have changed and the shelf-life of Trumpian tweets is famously brief. But the crisis may actually strain the ability of the federal government to pretend it can cover the cost of every calamity that strikes the nation — at least not without casting doubt on the soundness of the dollar. And not a few bonafide states are also whirling around the bankruptcy drain: Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, Kentucky.

Constitutionally states are not permitted to declare bankruptcy, though counties and municipalities can. Congress would have to change the law to allow it. But states can default on their bonds and other obligations. Surely there would be some kind of fiscal and political hell to pay if they go that route. Nobody really knows what might happen in a state as big and complex as Illinois, which has been paying its way for decades by borrowing from the future. Suddenly, the future is here and nobody has a plan for it.

The case for the federal government is not so different. It, too, only manages to pay its bondholders via bookkeeping hocuspocus, and its colossal unfunded obligations for social security and Medicare make Illinois’ predicament look like a skipped car payment.

In the meantime — and it looks like it’s going to be a long meantime — Puerto Rico is back in the 18th Century, minus the practical skills and simpler furnishings for living that way of life, and with a population many times beyond the carrying capacity of the island in that era. For instance, how many houses get their water from cisterns designed to catch rain runoff? How many communities across the island are walkable? (It looks like the gas stations will be down for quite a while.) I’ve been there and much of the island is as suburbanized as New Jersey — thanks to the desire to be up-to-date with the mainland, and the willingness of officials to make it look like that.

We’re only two days past the Hurricane Maria’s direct hit on Puerto Rico and there is no phone communication across the island, so we barely know what has happened. We’re weeks past Hurricanes Irma and Harvey, and news of the consequences from those two events has strangely fallen out of the news media. Where have the people gone who lost everything? The news blackout is as complete and strange as the darkness that has descended on Puerto Rico.

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Stucky
Stucky
September 22, 2017 10:22 am

There are about 1,100 people per square mile, a ratio higher than within any of the 50 states in the United States.

Puerto Rico’s population density per square miles is among the world’s highest, only Bangladesh, The Maldives, Barbados, Taiwan, South Korea and the city-states of Hong Kong and Singapore are more crowded.

Puerto Rico is the country with the most cars per square mile in the world: 146 vehicles per street mile and 4,300 vehicles per square mile.

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There is but one conclusion based on the above facts;

It is completely UNNATURAL for such a small island to have soooo many people.

Hurricanes make the unnatural revert back to natural, or nature.

It won’t happen, but the USA shouldn’t send them a thin dime to help them recover. Let them sink or swim on their own. The island can support on its own a population of 500k, if that ….. but certainly not 3.5 Million.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Stucky
September 22, 2017 10:38 am

They all have the right to move to the US mainland. Most of the young people will.

James
James
  Iska Waran
September 22, 2017 10:49 am

Well,with majority of population moving here what could be the problem,plenty of work ect.,we need more workers!

Folks,wake up and prep to best of ability.I realize folks on a tight budget ect. but even stashing a few cans of food a week/knowing your area well day and night/budget allows some metals for barter as things get better after a man made/natural disaster(assuming they do get better)/extra clothes/basic med stuff,you get the idea.I realize most cannot afford to build a bunker/stock it for decades of survival ect. but every little thing you can do adds up/skills and goods wise.

Many will say it is too late to which I say bullshit!Every extra good/skill you pick up now will help,it is not too late till a disaster happens,the smalls add up!

unit472
unit472
  Iska Waran
September 22, 2017 10:55 am

Most already have! Reading some comments on FB and it looks like much of PR will soon be arriving in Orlando, New York, Chicago or anywhere else they have established “colonies”.

The only reason they haven’t already moved is that some enjoy nice fat public sector pensions from their US ’employment’ and why spend your pension in NY where its cold when you can be a bigshot in San Juan on a NY ( or Chicago) pension.

I’d suggest Trump impose a $5000 per ticket surtax on flights out of PR to the US for the next 6 months. The wealthy will pay it but it will keep the paupers and drug addicts there. The ‘surtax’ would be used to rebuild P.R. such that the deserters are paying their ‘Fair Share’.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Iska Waran
September 22, 2017 12:35 pm

They already have….

Bill
Bill
  Iska Waran
September 23, 2017 2:19 pm

Maybe they could move to Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, and Kentucky.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
September 22, 2017 11:07 am

PR’s are American citizens.

Since 1917.

Unless they have renounced American citizenship, which they are allowed to do, and are then considered strictly Puerto Rican citizens (a few have done this, IIRC, but not enough to be of any significance).

Stucky
Stucky
  Anonymous
September 22, 2017 11:21 am

PR’s are crappy American citizens who take far more than they contribute.

Glad to be of service to ya.

BL
BL
  Stucky
September 22, 2017 11:46 am

Some citizens are more equal than others, we pay income tax out the ass and social security etc.etc.. They have gotten a welfare queen free limo ride and not contributed. COMPLETE BULLSHIT.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Stucky
September 22, 2017 11:19 am

It’s the same as the niggers in New Orleans. They didn’t rebuild – they moved to Texas.

Same with the Rican’s. They already have overrun Phila, Allentown, NYC – my guess is they will get more. Plus Florida (but that’s fucked up too).

These are the laziest people in the Western Hemisphere: 39% work force participation rate.

Cynical30
Cynical30
  Dutchman
September 22, 2017 2:24 pm

Ricans overran Allentown specifically because Bethlehem Steel imported them as cheap labor without the sticky immigration issues attached to it back in the 40s – 60s. Now they are loading trucks in the Walmart/Walgreens/Target/Amazon distribution centers in suburban Allentown, Bethlehem and Easton.

Philly and NYC are different stories.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  Stucky
September 22, 2017 5:08 pm

“but the USA shouldn’t send them a thin dime to help them recover”
——–
Being a US territory, Puerto Rico is part of the USA. Does that qualify them for FEMA relief $$?

David Macko
David Macko
  Rise Up
September 24, 2017 5:01 am

If we restored the Constitution, nobody would get FEMA money because there would be no FEMA.

ragman
ragman
September 22, 2017 10:46 am

From what I understand, very few ‘Ricans went to work when the power was on. Lazy fuckers that hate “gringos”. They did absolutely NOTHING to improve their electrical generation and distribution systems. Of course the first thing they do is start screaming for “someone” to help them. The “someone” in this case is the hated gringo, the evil White Americans that they have wanted independence from for decades. Now would be a good time to grant their wish.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ragman
September 22, 2017 11:11 am

Puerto has voted overwhelmingly in favor of becoming an American State, that isn’t indicative of a desire to become independent.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/us/puerto-rico-statehood-vote-2017/index.html

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Anonymous
September 22, 2017 5:14 pm

Yeah, well I veto that, and according my own personal constitution, it takes 99% to overturn my veto.

Osmott Fontenot
Osmott Fontenot
  Anonymous
September 22, 2017 6:12 pm

Lets make them a state and give the Democrats 2 more Senators and 5 or 6 Representatives.

Doug
Doug
  Anonymous
September 22, 2017 6:36 pm

But they only voted for statehood after their finances went to shit and they figured doing so would force US taxpayers to finance their expenses, no?

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Anonymous
September 23, 2017 2:18 am

Knowing the history of Cuba, does anybody really think the U.S. will let Puerto Rico go? No way. The .gov doesn’t want Russia or China or any other country getting too cozy. Look at Hawaii. The native Hawaiians want their country back, never wanted to become a part of the U.S. But they’re wasting their time time trying to cut the cords. The U.S. will never let them go, nor Alaska, nor Guam. They’re all jumping off points for the military.

The Observer
The Observer
  Vixen Vic
September 24, 2017 2:47 pm

Vixen Vic; You are absolutely correct. It’s all about military bases.

Javelin
Javelin
  ragman
September 22, 2017 12:50 pm

The only people Ricans are more racist against than gringos are the Salvadoran and Dominican people. It was quite eye opening a few years ago when I was last there and our private tour guide spent half the time bitching about “illegal immigrants”. Every time a car passed with blaring rap, or he saw a car with 10 passengers he would start another rant. He even said” you can tell a native Puerto Rican because their skin is white- not like the greasy brown illegals.”
Sadly, those cental American illegals get citizenship in Puerto Rico after a few years proven residency, not sure if that qualifies them then to come here legally.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Javelin
September 23, 2017 2:20 am

Sounds like that guy has sense.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  ragman
September 22, 2017 6:50 pm

Ragman – ou are right about that.

However, interestingly, in recent years I believe they have decided they want to be a state. You see, they figured out they were bankrupt, and believe being a state would allow them access to a whole bunch of free shit.

There are more of those lazt, violent assholes already on the mainland than remains on the island. I suspect there will be no one left shortly.

GilbertS
GilbertS
September 22, 2017 11:31 am

I didn’t know Puerto Ricans lived in Puerto Rico. I thought they all lived in NYC. If I was wrong, I suspect that will change pronto.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  GilbertS
September 23, 2017 2:21 am

LOL

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 22, 2017 11:33 am

Hope Peter Schiff got out of there. Had to chuckle a bit after watching a youtube video where he was singing the praises of living there. I think the US will have to do an airlift of supplies or else they will all end up on the US shores.
Team Goy #432

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Diogenes
September 22, 2017 11:41 am

Harry Dent was living there and singing the praises, also. Wonder where they are now..

Tim
Tim
  Diogenes
September 22, 2017 3:06 pm
Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Diogenes
September 23, 2017 2:26 am

They should build concrete dome houses, raised up with a closed garage at the bottom for their vehicles, with the opening away from the windy side. 🙂 That way if there’s a storm surge, the cars may get flooded but not the homes. Domes work the best against hurricanes (even nuclear blasts.) If people are going to build in areas like this, they need to build the right way.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
September 22, 2017 11:39 am

I was wondering why we haven’t heard anything about Houston since Irma.

I tried searching, there is no national news since around the 7th, that I could find. There is plenty going on there.

Here’s a link for anyone who is interested. Apparently, the national news services aren’t interested anymore.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/houston/article/Mayor-council-clash-over-Harvey-debris-removal-12216212.php

$260 million just to pick up the debris…and the city council is fighting over it.

Dutchman
Dutchman
  Mary Christine
September 22, 2017 12:25 pm

I think they are running out of space to dump the shit.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Dutchman
September 22, 2017 12:34 pm

That is what Louisiana is for….Lake Charles, specifically.

James
James
  Dutchman
September 22, 2017 1:55 pm

Running out of space,well……,I have the answer!Get a few kegs of beer and have a huge bonfire party,you drag your share of stuff and drink for free,days on end fires,get a few feral pigs for roasts(not over trash fires!)/a genny to hook up a band(ZZ TOP perhaps!) and let the good times roll.Any officials not happy with the solution,well,you already have some big ass firs burning,heave ho!

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  James
September 23, 2017 2:28 am

What a great comment, James. Sounds good. Maybe invite outsiders in to help and for the concert, for a fee, to help with cleanup and repairs.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
September 22, 2017 12:12 pm

What does PR do for the US (besides provide a testing range for weapons)? Nothing! It’s too late to give the fucker back to Spain. It’s been nearly 120 years and we are still getting blowback from the Spanish-American War! If that isn’t a diamond bullet to the forehead then yall are too fuckin’ dumb to think.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Zarathustra
September 22, 2017 5:17 pm

They keep an ear out for aliens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_Observatory

P. Arroyo
P. Arroyo
  Zarathustra
September 24, 2017 5:34 pm

Puerto Ricans have been cannon fodder for US wars since 1917.

Hey, sorry about invading you, a free independent state, but too make up for it you are all citizens now. Oh, yea. That means we draft you for our wars.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
September 22, 2017 12:37 pm

Puerto Rico was acquired in the Spanish American War of 1898, and has been a consistent financial disaster, along with all the other possessions we got out of that debacle…

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
September 22, 2017 12:38 pm

BTW, Illinois defaulted on its bonds twice in the 19th century, the first time coming after Lincoln’s love of infrastructure projects like canals proved disastrous (per his law partner William Herndon)…

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  pyrrhus
September 23, 2017 2:30 am

Lincoln was a disaster, period.

BB
BB
September 22, 2017 1:36 pm

I got a friend that has a wife from Puerto Rico .Very beautiful woman.I told him if he ever wanted to sell her I’m a buyer.He said he would think about it.

James
James
  BB
September 22, 2017 1:56 pm

Hmmmm….,make a bigger offer!

The Observer
The Observer
  BB
September 24, 2017 2:50 pm

LMAO!

Steve C.
Steve C.
September 22, 2017 2:07 pm

Puerto Rico, You lovely island,
Island of tropical breezes….
— West Side Story

You forgot this one:

Maria… I’ve just met a girl named Maria…
And suddenly I find that nothing is the same…
– West Side Story

They got that shit right.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
September 22, 2017 2:39 pm

Give PR to Cuba, lock, stock and barrel. The Cubans can teach them how to make due with limited resources.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
September 22, 2017 2:41 pm

Puerto Rico, You lovely island,
Island of tropical breezes….
— West Side Story

And yet you’re here…
– Island of Manhattan

javelin
javelin
  hardscrabble farmer
September 22, 2017 2:56 pm

top-notch comedy there HSF

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
September 22, 2017 2:48 pm

Soooo.. if Puerto Rico does nothing for us, why then have we not cut them loose? I guess we can’t do that now without looking like bigger asses than we already are.

I heard a new term that I think fits the US quite well, pathologically altruistic.

Mesomorph
Mesomorph
September 22, 2017 3:16 pm
Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Mesomorph
September 23, 2017 2:32 am

I didn’t like “West Side Story.”

Phil ( Bustednuckles)
Phil ( Bustednuckles)
September 22, 2017 4:29 pm

Well, the shit done hit the fan down there and like it or not we all know we are going to bail them out.
In the mean time the sonsabitches are getting a very real crash course in survivalism.
It will be interesting to see the stories of how they adapt to cooking and cleaning with no fucking electricity, not to mention what they are eating in the first place.
It’s going to be Kunstler’s wet dream come true down there for the immediate future.

Rise Up
Rise Up
September 22, 2017 5:19 pm

I’ve read many articles about how an EMP over the U.S. would render many electrical transformers and circuits useless. And they are not manufactured in the U.S. so a backlog on replacements would be very long (1-2 years).

So how is PR going to recover? Their situation is much worse than an EMP is some regards, given the physical damage to infrastructure. Perhaps if the innards of the transformers aren’t damaged, they can be re-used. But maintenance on their utilities languished, so it will be a chance to bring things up to more modern standards…if they can scrape up the money.

I visited PR twice in 1989 and had an enjoyable time. You can drive the entire coastline in a day if you don’t take many stops.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
September 22, 2017 5:23 pm

No matter how the hurricane damage shakes out, Puerto Rico should totally refudiate its debt. Not renegotiate, not restructure, not get a “bailout”. No. They should just say “fuck you, we’re not paying you one lousy cent!”. I know Goldman wouldn’t allow that, so Paul Ryan would work out some “deal” where PR residents have their kidneys forcibly removed and sold for transplants, but in a just world anyone who lends to people who take a nap every afternoon would lose all of their money. BTW, refudiating is way stronger then just repudiating.

starfcker
starfcker
September 22, 2017 5:24 pm

Kunstler is dead on. Phil, great comment. There is no fixing this. Llpoh is right, these are some of the laziest people on earth. They have no skilled workforce. They have no uncorrupted administrative ability. They have no real economy. We can and probably will throw a bunch of money their way, it will be absorbed, and vanish. Puerto Rico is leading the way to returning to it’s natural state, only as much civilization as it’s own people can create and afford.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  starfcker
September 23, 2017 2:44 am

Sometimes I wonder if these are man-made hurricanes, or man-enhanced, and used to do specifically what happened in Puerto Rico as part of Agenda 21. Destroy the island, the people leave, it goes back to nature, and the rich have a nice getaway locale. Just a thought.

My cousin lives in Myrtle Beach and she said, after the last hurricane, the people who took government help were basically paid for the property and the government took over the property and nobody can build on it again. Don’t know how true that is, but it sounds like Agenda 21 to me.

Maggie
Maggie
  Vixen Vic
September 23, 2017 9:20 pm

It will be another Hilton Head.

Llpoh
Llpoh
September 22, 2017 6:52 pm

I expect they have gone feral by now. That is the natural state of that culture. Violence and crime would be rampant.

Deathcabfordollar
Deathcabfordollar
September 22, 2017 8:54 pm

I’m thinking this is the exact time I should move there. Nobody has any motivation, the whole damn place is levelled with more floods and mudslides to come, all property at cycle lows, what’s not to like? S/O

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Deathcabfordollar
September 22, 2017 9:17 pm

Death – what is not to like? Damn, are you insane? The ‘Ricans that are left is what is not to like. I lived there and could not exit stage right fast enough. That place is beautiful but is inhabited by the laziest, most corrupt, violent bastards you can imagine. And they do not anyone from the mainland.

Stay the fuck away from that shithole.

Deathcabfordollar
Deathcabfordollar
September 22, 2017 8:57 pm

Iska, the word is “Repudiate”.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Deathcabfordollar
September 22, 2017 10:03 pm

It’s a portmanteau of ‘refuse’ and ‘repudiate’ – sorta like the word fugly.

nkit
nkit
September 22, 2017 9:28 pm

Have the Clintons arrived there yet?

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  nkit
September 22, 2017 10:05 pm

Vultures in sheep’s clothing. Hide the women. At least we’ll have more land to dump carcinogenic coal ash, yay!

Rise Up
Rise Up
September 22, 2017 10:30 pm

There was a huge Bacardi rum factory when I visited PR in 1989. No matter if it didn’t survive, the best rum is from St.Croix–Captain Morgan!

starfcker
starfcker
  Rise Up
September 22, 2017 10:50 pm

Bad news, Rise Up. St. Croix got wiped off the map a couple of hours before Puerto Rico

BL
BL
September 22, 2017 11:35 pm

The biggest reason we WILL rebuild that island is that the IRS, FED,UN, IMF are domiciled in PR. They must continue to house all the criminal cabal shakedown corporations.

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/01/27/know-irs-fed-private-corporations/

http://www.mystrangemind.com/2006/08/irs-exposed-irs-is-privately-owned.html

HocusLocus
HocusLocus
September 23, 2017 7:30 am

Glad to see awareness of PR, but I cannot help but smile amused to see the hysterical news coverage on hurricanes and extreme literary license applied to their aftermath… as if this young generation have just pulled their heads from the sand. Too many agenda driven people out there. Globalwarmists want to pretend that dangerous storms are harbingers, the insurance-company driven ‘real estate bubble’ of folks building on the coast as if hurricanes were not so, and a slow moving cultural disorder only politically incorrect folks like me notice — our general fascination with ‘victims’ as we elevate them to undeserved ‘hero’ status (frankly a debasement of the concept of the hero, this is altruistic impulse gone wild)… NEVERTHELESS it is gratifying to see Puerto Rico’s plight recognized as the grid-down phenomenon that it is.

But forgive me if I cannot be stirred to alarm by PR’s population density and speculation that there will be a mass exodus, unrest and violence. As if PR as a whole was some environment unsustainable to humans like the suburbs of Miami, a powderkeg waiting to explode. Network news is really hysterical these days, I think the antiTrump emotions are unhinging news presenters. I’ve been through this grid-down scenario twice. In 1989 Hugo went past St. Thomas USVI and downed more than half of all utility poles, near 100% in St. Croix. No power at my house for 6 months, but I was lucky because they had to restring lines past my house to bring power back to the West end of the island. Some waited almost a year. No phone for 9 months. People pulling together, and in 1989 St. Thomas and St. Croix was invaded by ‘riggers’ from the Carolinas who replanted poles and strung wires better than they had been since electrification (like PR, the last direct hit had been in the 1920s). SO… when it happened AGAIN in 1995 (Marilyn) restoration was faster, only 3 months without power! Of course the USVI is ‘underwater’ with bonds. So is PR.

The only question is — can we float this stupid defecit bubble long enough to do something WORTH DOING, that is, rebuilding Puerto Rico’s infrastructure better. Puerto Rico needs the same service that was provided to St. Thomas, building its utility grid better than it had been. Not bailing out worthless paper loans, not shoring up banks, not adding worthless layers of paperwork in the middle of the health care system. Rebuilding modern technology. Compared to those useless endeavors actually building stuff is cheap.

So PR is a canary for the U.S. I hope it works. If we can prove that we can get together and help them regain the essential elements of modern civilization, we can prove that the continental US stands a chance of holding together if some calamity befalls it.