Tire Tyranny

Guest Post by Eric Peters

If you’ve gone to get new tires recently, you may have already dealt with the latest outcropping of technocratic busybodyism: The scanning of your car’s electronic ear tag, its Vehicle Identification Number or VIN.

The VIN is a bar code – literally – just like the one on the packages of stuff you buy at the supermarket or anywhere else that’s corporate. The VIN specifically identifies your car – including every last detail about it, such as the engine/transmission it came with, the color it was painted and the tires it came equipped with from the factory.

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And now it is being used to identify you.

This time, not by Uncle.

By private companies, following Uncle’s example.

To track you, control you – and even dun you.

Here’s how:

You visit the tire shop to buy a new set. Used to be that you’d either tell the guy behind the counter which tires you wanted or discuss options with him. Then you’d buy them and he’d install them. Now the guy behind the counter will scan your car’s VIN – which is tied to the DMV – and first find out all kinds of things about you and your car.

Then he will tell you which tires you’re allowed to buy.

Yes, really.

If your car originally came equipped with tires that carried a V speed rating – the “V” indicating rated for sustained travel at speeds up to 149 MPH – but you’ve decided you’d like to buy less aggressive (and less expensive) tires with an H rating – the “H” indicating rated safe for sustained travel at sustained speeds up to 130 MPH – the Tire Nazi will not allow it.

Or perhaps you’d like to go up a size – or down – for whatever reason of your own. After all, it is your car – and you’re buying the tires.

In neither case is any of this necessarily “unsafe” – although that will be the claim.

In the case of speed ratings, they are based on sustained speeds.  It is an important distinction. Thus, a V rated tire can safely handle sustained speeds up to 149 MPH. But it is not dangerous to briefly exceed 149 MPH. The tire isn’t going to shred – unless you operate at sustained speeds in excess of the rated maximum.

Question: How often do you travel at the sustained speeds for which your tire is rated? How about in excess of the rated speed?

For how long?

In the United States, the fastest allowable highway speed is 85 MPH – in a few rural parts of Texas. In most of the rest of the country, 70-75 is the maximum allowed and while driving faster is common, driving appreciably faster than 90 more than briefly isn’t.

A Q-rated tire (safe operation at sustained speeds up to 100 MPH) or R (106 MPH) pretty much covers that – and a tire with an S (112 MPH) or T (118 MPH) rating more than covers it, with a margin to spare.

In the United States, high-speed tires with ratings of “H” (130 MPH, sustained) or higher are functional overkill unless you actually do drive at sustained speeds at or near their rated maximums. If not, then you can save money by purchasing less aggressive tires – which also usually last longer and ride a bit softer – without compromising the safety of your vehicle.

Except for the VIN Thing.

The tire guy knows and will screech saaaaaaaaaaaaaafety but in actuality it’s about selling you the more expensive tires. He’ll also fall back on the Liability Excuse; if he sells you an H rated tire but your car came with V rated tires and you drive at sustained speeds in excess of the H rated tire’s capabilities but at speeds your car is theoretically capable of reaching and you wreck – well, you might sue.

Which you might – if you’re that sort of person. But first the tire would actually have to fail and for that to happen, you’d have to operate at sustained speeds in excess of the rated capacity to deal with them.

Good luck with that – even assuming you had the desire to try.

If there is a place in the USSA that isn’t a race track where one can operate at sustained speeds in excess of even 100 MPH (let alone 130) I would love to know where.

But it’s not just about tires and up-selling you expensive ones. The VIN ties into the government database at the DMV and via this conduit, the tire shop now has access to the information about your car – and so, about you – that the DMV has. They know the miles you drive each year, when you last got the car inspected for “safety” and smog checked and where you live and – probably – what other cars you own, too.

They may even be aware of your ticket rap sheet as well.

Part of this is legitimate or at least provides the needed excuse for it.

All modern cars are complex and integrated wholes. When a shop orders a part, it needs to know exactly which part. It has to be precisely specific to the car being worked on. If not, something might not work properly.

It is not as it was in the past, when parts were more generic and mostly what mattered was whether a given part would physically bolt up. If it did, it would usually work. Now it must also be compatible with the computer and the coding unique to your particular car’s combination of components, options and equipment. There are also numerous running changes made during a car model’s life cycle and keeping track of these is almost impossible.

The VIN is thus like a DNA sample – it contains detailed data about . . . everything.

Which isn’t the problem.

The problem is who controls access to that information. If it’s no longer you – if you are compelled to provide it to others – then is the car really yours? In a way, these VIN “draws” are not unlike the blood draws now being performed against people’s will by armed government workers.

The difference – if it amounts to much – is that for now, it is still your right to refuse and take your business elsewhere. But where elsewhere?

When they’re all doing the same thing?

Corporations can be – and are becoming – just as creepily coercive as Uncle, having learned at his knee. Viz: Banks that not only demand you show them your ID but insist you hand it over to so that the clerk can write down numbers and other such, before they will allow you to withdraw money from your account. Drug stores that require you to submit to a degrading interrogation process that presumes you’re a meth dealer before they will permit you to purchase cough syrup.

And now, tire tyranny too.

Your VIN, please.

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kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
kokoda - AZEK (Deck Boards) doesn't stand behind its product
September 23, 2017 6:05 pm

This could present us with some fun at the tire shop. Park my car away from the shop; tell them what tire I want; if they say we have to see my car, I will say no. Then I will listen to the BS and then say no.

If they say they can’t sell the tires without seeing the car ahead of time (to scope the VIN), I will walk.

I find it hard to believe a tire shop will let a $800 sale walk away.

Vodka
Vodka
September 23, 2017 6:36 pm

This is just to condition us for the coming bar code scans of the Mark of the Beast on our foreheads. And I’m only half joking.

“Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you”. – said by somebody, somewhere.

Fulton
Fulton
September 23, 2017 7:01 pm

Ironically, this trend is actually ANTI-environment. Let me explain. My midsize car came with 235-45-18 tires on 18 inch wheels. Total weight at each hub: 55 pounds! I switched out to 205-65-16 tires and 16 inch lightweight wheels. My tires are the same height as original, thus preserving speed and odo accuracy. New weight at each hub: 32 pounds! The car gets about 2 mpg more, and has quicker acceleration. I think these big wheel packages are actually a plot by the alt right to waste fuel, but what do I know?

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Fulton
September 24, 2017 2:44 pm

TPTB and CEOs are ZOG Leftist; US Patriots, the KKK and Nazis don’t want to waste fuel and force US to buy overpriced ZOG crap.

Fulton
Fulton
September 23, 2017 7:05 pm

PS: your brake pads and rotors will also last longer when they do not have to stop those huge tire wheel packages.

TC
TC
September 23, 2017 7:18 pm

I almost always hand deliver my wheels to the tire shop off the car and hawk over them while they do the work. Those tire shops don’t pay those kids enough to give a shit about what kind of damage they do to your wheels/tires/car.

Phil ( Bustednuckles)
Phil ( Bustednuckles)
September 23, 2017 10:26 pm

I’d literally laugh in their faces if they tried that shit on me.
In the first place, I have been a professional mechanic for over thirty years now and actually have a degree in automotive technology.
In the second place, I have worked in tire shops before and have mounted , dismounted and balanced thousands of tires.
In the third place, I drive a thirty four year old El Camino and the VIN tag at the bottom of the windshield is so rusted that it is almost unreadable.
I fucking DARE some dumbass fucking punk to tell me that I can’t put non stock wheels and or tires on it.
The poor bastard would get an education he would never forget, right before I turned around and walked out.
Then I would drive right down the road to the little Gypo outfit in the old tin garage and order whatever the fuck I wanted.
Trust me, they will never totally kill off the little independent shops entirely.

Vodka
Vodka
  Phil ( Bustednuckles)
September 24, 2017 12:56 am

I love your spirit, Phil. But what happens when the insurance providers will only insure a vehicle with approved tires, mounted by an approved technician at an approved shop? That’s the future.

The walls are closing in.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Vodka
September 24, 2017 1:53 pm

agree vodka-
and don’t you know that the big boys will be behind the scenes pushing it because the little guys will not be able to compete in a regulated environment–

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
September 23, 2017 10:47 pm

I have a “personal” tire shop. Guy has it in back of his house in an unincorp area. Best deal in town and the guy “knows” tires, ’cause that’s all he does. If you’re not careful you can adopt a set of tires you’ll be miserable with. I say “adopt” because you’ll probably live with them for at least the next two years.

Maurice Miner
Maurice Miner
September 24, 2017 12:40 am

Sad, but true. If you have “staggered” tyres – i.e. different sizes front to rear, then you are in for a world of hurt.

I would have to drive about 2,500 km to the Northern Territory to enjoy “unlimited” speeds – I have done so previously, but once you get a rental over 210 km/h, (130.5 mph) it starts to get VERY unstable in terms of aerodynamics. I would love to do this with my personal vehicle, but tax deductability issues prevent this…

Anything up to about 190 km/h is “good” on normal freeways – however, if you want to go faster, then you need a car (with wheel/tyre combos) that will take it.

Believe me, there is no fun at all in having a blow-out at 200 km/h…

Maggie
Maggie
September 24, 2017 9:29 am

I thought this read “Tire Tranny” in the list of articles posted and wanted to see her/it.

Maggie
Maggie
September 24, 2017 9:41 am

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Anon
Anon
September 24, 2017 11:13 am

“You visit the tire shop to buy a new set. ” – I, after experiencing the stupid at most tire shops have completely avoided buying new tires at a shop anymore. Now, I simply buy the tires on line, then have them shipped to a local outfit that will come to your home and install the tires. It is great. Best part (cause I hate revenue collectors with guns) is that I pay NO SALES TAX. I would rather pay the Fed Ex charge to ship the tires to my guy, than to pay the money to the local asshats to continue to play their protection racket. Then, I get a COMPETENT installer, who does not give a shit about my VIN, and does his job flawlessly, and with a smile. Did I mention he is white, well put together, and clearly a professional? Oh, and after the cost of the tires, the shipping AND the install, it is STILL cheaper than the cost of the SAME tires and install at a corporate shop. I won’t lump the local independents in to that bucket, as there still are some VERY good locals. Also, I don’t have to hear the upsell and safety lecture from the idiot telling me what the latest sheeple fad is in tires….you know, for the children and all. It is great, and I would never go back. Lets hope that the general public (you know, the same sheep that ruin everything else good) never catches on to this little niche I have found, so the government does not get its hooks on it….

Dagny
Dagny
September 24, 2017 11:21 am

Many shops sell tires. If you are treated poorly at one place, take your business across the street to their competitor. The consumer is sovereign because money is the most desirable commodity.

The repair shop I use is owned by a fellow conservative extremist who is also a class III FFL (if you know what that is, you’re likely one of us). I order tires online, have them shipped to this shop were they install them for a reasonable fee. Use the internet to your advantage, info tech cuts both ways with a little thought.

Dave
Dave
September 24, 2017 11:32 am

I just bought 4 new tires that I wanted, at Walmart. Loaded them in my car and drove away. My son-in-law, who works at a dealership then installed them in his spare time.

TampaRed
TampaRed
September 24, 2017 12:16 pm

another point here guys–
awhile back scott adams wrote about how he went to the dealership to trade in his top of the line bmw and they told him that they had no deal because his car was only worth the salvage value–
he had been in a tire shop and apparently they report to carfax–
when they wrote down his mileage they flipped the #s,which made it look as if the odometer had been tampered with,automatically making it only worth salvage value to dealers–

rhs jr
rhs jr
September 24, 2017 2:59 pm

I am old fashioned and a bit tire handicapped; when I asked for 4 ply cord over steel, they said they would be more expensive and have to be special ordered from Italy. Is our choice 2 ply steel or rims?