Section 8 permits Congress to coin money and to regulate…
Blah blah blah.
I wonder if Congress actually took back this power, would it really make any difference? If so, how?
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It’s not like the power to create money can be trusted to anyone or any group, right?
Without pure freedom, property rights and barter a man will always be on the treadmill unless he can take advantage of the money system and/or the political system.
I’m thinking there can only be 2 groups…master and slave.
The power to use metal weights and apply ink and then press those weights onto paper and thereby “Quoin” paper currency was always the process intended by the Revolutionary Fathers to “Coin” money.
The present imposters have destroyed themselves in Counterfeiting that process. (1200 Trillions in fraudulent currency; hence = worthless).
Yeah, but now we have crypto’s. Viva bitcoin.
also illegitimate
THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE “CURRENCY” AS IT RELATES TO MEDIUM OF “EXCHANGE” IN A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC IS “ACCOUNTABILITY” IN THE PRESENCE OF THE RULE OF LAW.
Counterfeit Fiat Currency or Counterfeit Gold (Commodity-Based Currency)… OR Counterfeit Peanut-Butter-and-Jelly sammiches are = COUNTERFEIT. Counterfeiting is antithetical to the intent and written instructions of Women and Men far Superior in Patriotic Intent and Actions-Performed, to say Nothing of INTELLECT, as those relate to this discussion.
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Well for one thing, we the people wouldn’t be paying a perpetual fucking 6% dividend to the owners of the Federal Reserve for parking the “money” they created out of thin air. They also make $billions on the transactions, coming and going, of the treasury notes they buy and sell. For them, it’s a casino where they always have the winning hand. Call it a tax. Call it economic friction. Call it whatever you want, but it’s outright theft of the productivity of the American people.
How long would it take for the new group of money changers to find another way to fuck you? I don’t see how giving the power to someone else or some other group would insure any notion of honesty, integrity or fairness.
Ours is a Constitutional Republic. It is FORBIDDEN, under the rules to deviate from the instructions; yet, deviate is what We The People have allowed. We need understand the multiplicity of Frauds rendered, in OUR name are antithetical to the written instructions. We The People need withdraw our consent as it has been rendered thus through criminal FRAUD.
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We The People know their names. We The People can find their physical property. We The People must renounce their Counterfeit presence AND TAKE THEIR THINGS AWAY FROM THEM… In some instances, because they are deliberate Criminal Filth- DC politicians, in fact- We The People must investigate, prosecute and take the breath from their bodies as an example We The People are uniquely-suited to defy TYRANNY. It is our Birthright.
The criminal, English-based cartel, presently operating out of the intentionally-mislabeled, “Federal Reserve- neither federal, nor, possessing ANY reserves”, would like everyone to believe Article 1, Section 8, only allows, “The Congress… To coin money…”. They are lying. The colonial process of using an actual, “printing press” used “Quoins” to create and “fix” the printing of paper currency, and thereby, “… Regulate the value thereof”. The word “Quoins” may be spelled, “Coignes, or “Coins”. Thomas Paine understood as much and he described the paper “Continental Currency”, as the “Cornerstone” of the Revolution…
A deliberate, misinformation campaign now defies and confounds the Truth. It is a long time in the making…
Can a piece of paper support the weight of the Washington Monument?
Thomas Paine has suggested it can.
According to what is likely the greatest engineer of the Revolution, once the paper currency, “The Continental” was “Quoined” and printed, it acted as the “Cornerstone” to Revolution.
Paine describes “Continental Paper Currency”, as follows:
“Every stone in the bridge, that has carried us over, seems to have a claim upon our esteem. But this was a corner stone, and its usefulness cannot be forgotten.”.[1]
The Original Revolt against English Bankers was engineered by Draftsmen, Printers, Builders, and Warrior Poets …
Thomas Paine, perhaps the greatest engineer, of them all, built the first-ever, steel, suspension bridge, even as the words he fashioned, provided the backbone necessary to the demands of his day.
In fact, his words define the very, “Bridge, that has carried us over…”.
As Draftsmen, Printers and Builders, the original engineers were no strangers to their craft and the tools they used to “Quoin” their creations may have emboldened the rebellion in the first place in the aftermath of the “Stamp Act”.
Simply put, before a project can act as “Coin”, it must be “Quoined” to carry weight and in fact, the coignes themselves, whether called “coignes, coins, or quoins”, are actual, metal weights.
These metal weights are used to set the type-face; the letters and numbers that define each printed page…
The paper, to show value, must be clearly defined, as described in the printed word, with the structural elements clearly defined, while drafted on paper and “stamped”, upon approval.
Insofar as, placing a valuation on paper money, it is redundant to explain the same qualities must also be present.
Any architect, Revolutionary or otherwise, will then, “… regulate the value thereof…”,[2] as his work commands his price.
In architecture, another word for a “Cornerstone” is a “Quoin”.
To paraphrase Thomas Paine and thereby, “coin a phrase”:
A PAPER “QUOIN” is a “COIN”.[3] Congress may certainly “Quoin” paper money.
A “Corporate Kleptomockracy” now
feels it owns, “The People, We”.
While “Common Sense” and meanings-lost
Have all conspired to shirk the cost…
To “middle man”, across the sea,
A wretch, now marked, as “Royalty”.
If my two “Cents” makes tons of “Sense”,
and Thomas Paine may be believed,
the current paper, once properly “Quoined”,
may act as “Corner Stone” and Store
to cage the English…
Central Banking Whore…
For paper “Quoined”,
as case may be, will act as “Coin”,
to set the fee and thus describe,
“The People, We”
as having now and always been,
our Sovereigns’ own, in Sovereignty…
“Nobility”? : such posh – and –pish…
while feeding in the People’s dish…
It gluts itself, among our sons
And fills the world with bombs and guns.
It hides itself, a “Patriot”, while “Greed”, alone, is Cause for it.
~Michael Keane
Take the phony amount (1200 Trillions) and move it, as real dollars, into the Possession of the American People.
Investigate and Prosecute our Political Oppressors and the banks that counterfeit American Currency.
There are 1200 Trillions owed to “Insurance Fraud”, aka, “Derivatives” and EMPTY “MBS- Mortgage-Backed-Securities”- THAT HAVE NO “MORTGAGES” IN THEM!
It is Counterfeiting, plain-and-simple.
Article one, Section eight, provides remedies for these criminal behaviors. In unambiguous language, Article One, Section Eight, explains, as follows:
“The Congress shall have the power … To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the SECURITIES and current coin of the United States…”.
Once punishment and “asset seizures” are established, the present system may be kept, in place and an alternative currency may be used, as substitute, for the intentionally-mislabeled, now-hyper-inflationary, “Federal Reserve Notes, Bills and Bonds”.
The intentionally-mislabeled, “Federal Reserve”, neither “Federal”, nor possessing ANY “Reserves”, has destroyed itself, NOT the American People.
In fact, Abe Lincoln’s “Greenbacks” presently exist in the US Treasury as a replacement. They could be minted and used, while “We The People” evict the criminal, English-based, Central Banking Cartel and establish the Treasury, as:
“Under New Ownership”.
~ Michael Keane 1/25/17
1] “The Web of Debt”, Dr. Ellen Brown, p. 43
[2] Constitution, Article One, Section Eight
[3] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/quoin
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I can appreciate someone that acknowledges Ellen Brown.
Dr. Brown is a national Treasure. Her intuitive understanding of the importance of the History surrounding this ages-old deceit is invaluable. Her pioneering work in Public Banking, will, in the end, define a large portion of the Solution… see “Public Banking Institute”.
In making the money issued directly from the treasury authorized via congress, the taxation of your paycheck would be forbidden.
That would be taxing a government function. That is strictly against foundational legal maxims.
By giving a bank the ability to create and issue “money”….that link is broken…and your paycheck can be taxed as “controlling the quantity of currency in circulation”.
It’s all right here in the holding if you have eyes to see it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veazie_Bank_v._Fenno
I can expand on it if anyone cares.
The 16th amendment was also created in 1913.
16th amendment has NOTHING to do with the taxation of ones paycheck. It has everything to do with the taxation of income received from things like stocks, bonds, rental income, etc.
Your time is your property. When you sell it to an employer for dollars/hr, that time is gone. Never to be reclaimed. In its place now rests some money in your hand.
The income brought in from renting a house is the target, not the house, the house (property) remains whole. Not so with time….once it’s gone, it’s gone.
Respectfully, you missed my point entirely. There is NO mechanism in the Constitution for taxation on personal wealth- paychecks or otherwise.
The 16th amendment was created as mechanism of extortion to fund the illegal presence in the vitals of America’s Financial System; parasites, foreign, criminal and imposters to Securities and the “Quoin” of these United States.
I see the 16th in a different light. It was conceived too tax the UNearned wealth of the robber barons of that era. It is but one of the primary income taxes. There are 3.
The corporate income tax is another.
The tax on “money” not issued by the treasury is the 3rd.
It’s the third one that is causing the rapid devolution of this country. It is effectively a direct tax on yours and mines time. It is carried into practice by the federal reserve’s poisoned “money”. The 16th gets all the venom and hatred, but it’s not really the real enemy.
The government was SUPPOSED to be supported by tariffs and fees, such as fees charged when a ship came into harbor. THAT wasn’t enough to support a world-dominating, populace-oppressing behemoth of a fraud, waste and abuse-ridden sham, so the 16th A and income tax were created.
The Constitution forbade per-capital taxation, so that had to be rewritten. It also forbade anyone but Congress from coining money, so that had to go. And it forbade standing armies, so that had to be ignored. The more you study US history, the smarter the Founders look – and the more evil, corrupt and venal the current crop of “politicians” looks.
If the US Treasure did the printing, Congress would make the policy and control the amount, not the Rothschild Central Bank. We The People would have a little better control.
We The People have ALL of the control because the Constitution belongs to We The People. The Constitution makes ZERO allowance for foreign Counterfeiting of our Currency (“Coin = bonds, bills and notes”) and “Securities (stocks and bonds)”.
The present system is an ABOMINATION AND IT IS INSOLVENT. THE “DEBT” MUST BE TAKEN OUT OF THE HIDES OF EUROPEAN CRIMINAL, SWISS AND ENGLISH CENTRAL BANKING FILTH.
Either Congress takes back its rightful power to issue our money or we keep the Fed.
As many times as I’ve asked people for alternatives to the Fed if we ended it, no one has ever come up with a viable suggestion so I now advocate Congress taking back control through Treasury issuance of our money. Whether through coins or bills is irrelevant, either could be used as far as I’m concerned.
If anyone actually has a viable suggestion for a replacement to the Fed, I would love to hear and consider it. As our debt mounts this will finally become a political argument and I would like to be on the leading edge of it instead of having someone dictate the argument to me after the fact.
Trust in government is a precious thing, but once lost such trust is nearly impossible to reclaim. So, we can’t get “there” from here.
The plan of the Oligarchs, who live and thrive off interest, is to enslave a new batch of willing debt-slaves in the Orient… people craving for the material things a western lifestyle has convinced them is better than what they have.
The operation to render useless and irrelevant the current debt-slaves(the west) has been underway since the 60’s. In my opinion Hussien obama was the set-up man while The Beast Formerly Known As “The Hildabeast” was to tip us in. I’ve yet to determine if “they” have reeled in Trump.
Perhaps in another couple of hundred years another bunch of radicals will be able to pull off a government that issues it’s own money debt and interest free AND has the well deserved support of it’s CITIZENS. We gave a go for a short time…
The FACT that banks create money is sometimes difficult for people to believe. However, that’s not even the most damning aspect of a debt-money monetary system… it’s the consequences!!! Not surprising, none of those are good and all of them end in the destruction of said nation. I’ll give you one to start you off – debt-money is a ponzi scheme which requires constant and continual growth and collapses once growth stops. So now you know why the FED had to create all that money thru QE, the people simply can no longer “borrow” enough new money into existence to support the previously accumulated debt. There are dozens more consequences; I leave it to you to tease them out.
Okay, one more. Remember cash for clunkers and first time home buyers tax credit(the first effort to get people to borrow more money into existence – it didn’t work). If you want to know why the stock market is at all time highs, or why the stock averages are ALWAYS rescued if they seem on the verge of a breakdown… nothing can be permitted to interfere with the expansion of money. And there’s a reason for that.
It’s our money being interest bearing money that kills us, not the borrowing itself.
Interest bearing money cannot pay off interest bearing money and the debt created by it cannot be reduced as a result.
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Dr Brown describes it as Benjamin Franklin’s recognition of an “impossible contract”, if memory serves.
The “deficit” of course, only describes some portion of “interest”, while principal has not been paid, in any portion, since Andrew Jackson.
The answer lies in renunciation of the current imposters, parasites and frauds they have attempted to enlist in our name.
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