Dr. Mercola Is Mostly A Scam Artist

“I miss the Stuckenheimer’s input.” —– Maggie, in her article  here.

First things.  I’m not going to bullshit you just because I like you (a lot). You’ll get my honest opinion.  As, such, do NOT take this article as a personal attack on your expertise and wisdom (which I greatly respect).

I’m not going to comment on the book except to say that at face value it looks quite interesting and … you did a marvelous job summarizing it. Thank you for your time and effort … it’s truly appreciated.  I’m posting the (copy and pasted) article which looks at Dr. Mercola in a more general sense.

There are positive aspects regarding Dr. Mercola; his relentless attacks on Big Pharma and Big Medicine,  his making us aware of the many poisons in our environment and food, the excessive greed especially throughout the medical industry, raising people’s awareness of “natural” healing and how that can be accomplished via wholesome eating …. and other good things.  In other words, he’s not a total asshole, fer sure.

But ………. he is a Big Fat Fraud when you look at the Big Picture.

He’s all about transferring your money into his pocket.  His articles are nothing more than advertisements to get you to buy stuff from his web site. Of course, only HIS vitamins or minerals or whatever are truly effective … everyone else makes inferior and shitty products.

Did you know that if you took all the products offered on his web site that; 1) you would live to 137 years old, 2) you would never have another major disease ever, and 3) at death, you would look like you’re only 45 years old? Neither did I …. but, Mercola would like you to believe that fantasy. Your fantasy = Mo Money for him.

He gets only a “C” rating from the BBB.  And the FDA has ordered him to stop making fraudulent claims on numerous occasions.  See here.

Of course, Mercola fans will scream out — “You’re quoting a site called ‘Quackwatch’ ya fucken maroon??!!“.  Or, they’ll point out that it’s just more proof that a Gigantic Conspiracy exists to silence Saint Mercola.  Which just proves a point … believers will always find a reason to believe.

But … I do NOT believe in Saint Mercola.  I think he’s a quack.  That’s my input.  Don’t believe me?  Then read the (long) article below with an open mind.  Can you handle the truth? heh heh

[Closing note to Llpoh;  feel free to call you-know-who a “cunt”.  Some things are worth repeating and, it’ll help this sorry-assed thread get to 50, I’m sure.]

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If Dr. Mercola lived in 1885

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The Most Honest Man in Medicine?

SOURCE:  Here. (The Ringer).

“This is a big mango tree!”

The camera follows a fit, barefoot older man in a Kelly green athletic tank top as he points to a tree in his yard. He looks like a kindly retiree turned gardener as he crouches to cradle a low-hanging mango. But Dr. Joseph Mercola is not retired, and his sojourn among the fruits is a pit stop in a nearly 25-minute YouTube video titled “A Day in the Life of Dr. Mercola.”

This infomercial about Mercola’s life and taste in trees exists because he oversees an alternative-health empire organized around his namesake website, Mercola.com; the video is part of a strategy to sell the osteopath as your favorite straight-shooting natural-living guru. Perhaps you’ve seen him, paternally bald and trim and unflappable, making sanguine appearances on The Dr. Oz Show or Today or CNN. He is jacked.

Mercola is the coauthor of various New York Times best-selling books, including The Great Bird Flu Hoax and The No-Grain Diet. He launched Mercola.com in 1997, staking out an early corner in the growing “alternative health” industry and building an audience with a wholesome yet conspiratorial “what the doctors don’t want us to know” tone. The telegenic 62-year-old’s long-running e-commerce and health-blogging business is carefully positioned to attract and comfort people who feel cast off, lied to, and vulnerable. It spins a compelling tale: The world is treacherous, and danger lurks in protein powders, laptops, toothpaste, and hot tubs. Steeped in toxicity, we are poisoned by the society we’ve built. Cheerios will hurt children. Sippy cups threaten the youth. Johnson & Johnson’s baby shampoo is, in fact, bad for babies. Using a mobile phone regularly while pregnant will doom children to behavioral problems down the line; letting young people drink fluoridated water will make them stupid, and your local doc is in the pocket of Big Pharma.

The internet is a breeding ground for bad information. It has hosted hoaxes, conspiracy theorists, liars, and frauds since its inception, but in 2016 the scams were rewarded with credulity, attention, and virality to a dizzying extent. The truth was both harder to discern and less integral to success than it had seemed. Teens in Macedonia made bank spreading fake news on Facebook; Snopes became a bookmark to check daily. I’ve known about Mercola for years, but I found myself paying more attention to him in 2016, not because he was up to new tricks but because the shtick he’s used for 19 years is continuing to mislead people — and pay dividends. Our growing disassociation with truth stands to only benefit him more.

Mercola offers himself up as the only honest man in medicine, ready and willing to refute the arrogant lies of other doctors.

He is rewarded for this effort. Business research firm Hoover’s estimates that Mercola.com LLC brings in around $9.8 million annually, with additional income from Mercola.com Health Resources LLC ($5.2 million) and Mercola Consulting Services LLC (around $320,000). His website bills itself as the “#1 Natural Health Website.” It is the top “Alternative Health” website, according to Alexa, more popular than Tony Robbins’s self-help page. (While “alternative health” is a vague category, in Mercola’s case, it means he gloms onto nonsense about the dangers of modern medicine — not that he is a champion of experimental but evidence-based procedures.)

Mercola.com hosts many blog posts, some of which accumulate hundreds of thousands or even millions of views — enough to register as viral content. Plenty of the posts are benign fluff, such as an instructional post about how to cut a mango. There are 4,400 articles on the benefits of turmeric. Other posts, however, push dubious advice. For example, Mercola says he believes fluoride is a neurological poison foisted upon Americans by a malevolent government. (Fluoride is a community health tool, as studies by the U.S. Public Health Service and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate). Mercola has also recommended following an alternative anticancer routine that includes coffee enemas even though other doctors have warned against the procedure, calling it risky.

“The wellness industry has exploded into superfoods, detoxes, and celebrity healers selling magic crystals,” The Outline recently wrote. The Global Wellness Institute (a think tank focused on the industry) claims that wellness was a $3.7 trillion industry as of 2015. Superfoods and detoxes are both obsessions for Mercola, who could be categorized as a celebrity healer of sorts. While his Q score pales next to Gwyneth Paltrow’s, Mercola produces one of the internet’s longest-running wellness newsletters. Paltrow’s questionable health advice (remember when she told us to steam our vaginas?) routinely gets picked apart, but Mercola seems to get a free pass because his particular brand of pseudoscience proselytizing is generally confined to the internet and morning talk shows.

“Joseph Mercola is among the top misinformation vectors of our time when it comes to health, medicine, food, parenting, and more ….. His promotion of pseudoscience helps fuel a culture that turns its nose up at beneficial technologies and medical treatments.
He promotes chemophobia and spreads fear of chemicals, GMOs, and vaccines, all while peddling alternatives to line his pockets,” pro-biotechnology activist and writer Kavin Senapathy told me. Senapathy has written for Forbes about Mercola’s habit of calling substances dangerous and then selling products containing those substances.

While he’s not as well known as Dr. Oz, Mercola tends to a devoted fan base on the internet. “There was a short period where [Mercola] was recommending not showering after being in the sun because it would wash off the vitamin D, or something like that. And you say it like that, it sounds ridiculous, but he phrased it in a way that it sounded quasibelievable,” a former employee who wished to remain anonymous told The Ringer. “And we had this lady call up who wanted us to talk to her son, because he hadn’t showered in like four weeks because Dr. Mercola told him he needed to get more vitamin D. It’s like, My god, I don’t even know where to begin.”

Mercola’s fixation on vitamin D doesn’t end there. He used to sell a line of tanning beds through his site, and frequently extolled the virtues of absorbing vitamin D through sunlight. But in April, the Federal Trade Commission filed a complaint in federal court against Mercola, charging that he falsely advertised tanning beds as wellness tools. The models in the line had names like D-Lite, Sun Splash Refresh, and Vitality D-Lite, and he advertised these beds as an optimal way to absorb vitamin D. Some of the advertisements included in the complaint as exhibits insist that Mercola’s tanning beds can help “reverse the appearance of aging” by helping the body produce collagen and flatten wrinkles. It’s easy to see why Mercola returned to vitamin D so frequently — it allowed him to clearly cast the medical establishment as stodgy, wrongheaded worrywarts, and himself as the person whose advice allows enjoyment of the “natural world.” And, of course, it just so happened to advocate using one of the more expensive products he sold.

As part of a settlement with the FTC, Mercola issued refunds to customers and agreed to stop selling tanning beds. Mercola has clashed with the FDA, which has sent him several warning letters objecting to claims the website has made about the products it has sold. For example, the FDA warned Mercola about claiming that his “CardioEssentials” product is “a much safer and effective option than aspirin and other pharmaceutical agents to treating heart disease.”

While the tanning beds are gone, Mercola.com currently hawks a wide variety of products loosely connected with his wellness mission, including essential oils, whey protein, cat litter, sardines, sauna equipment, dental gels for pets, grass-fed beef, fermented broccoli sprouts, fermented ginseng spray, fat calipers, organic tampons, leggings, peppermint lip balm, and mattresses.

Former Mercola.com marketing associate Adam Marcus recollected some of the e-commerce side’s practices to me. “With the amount of violations they’ve been through, I’m surprised they haven’t been shut down,” he said.

According to Marcus, Mercola would look at other products on the market and then identify inactive “filler” ingredients to attempt to differentiate his line of products. “Most of the time, if there was a filler ingredient he would make some claim about how that filler was harmful to you and then remove it from his version so that it was the only one on the market that didn’t have the ‘harmful’ additive,” Marcus said. “But he wouldn’t remember which ones he badmouthed, so he would then release products with those fillers.”

Marcus also talked about Mercola’s workplace attitude. “He gives off that vibe that he can’t be bothered by people that don’t live exactly the same way as him,” he said. “And that he really doesn’t like fat people.”

Mercola has guest-blogged about the alleged menace of microwaves for The Huffington Post, appeared on CNN, and also made his aforementioned appearances with Dr. Oz and the Today gang, but despite friendliness from soft-focus news, his exuberant antiscience stances have not endeared him to mainstream medical and scientific communities. Tech reporter Nick Bilton was quickly roasted when he cited Mercola in a piece on smartwatch cancer fears for The New York Times. The newspaper eventually issued an editor’s note (citing research that found no causal link between smartwatches and cancer) and the lapse in judgment was deemed so egregious that the Times public editor wrote an article in part deriding the decision to treat Mercola credulously. Meanwhile, Mercola’s fondness for telling people that objects will give them cancer led New York magazine’s Science of Us to compile a list of other household items and common experiences that Mercola categorizes as carcinogens, including bras, carbs, tattoos, and root canals.

While Mercola is the face of the company and the center of its branding, the former employee told The Ringer that Mercola does not write his own blog posts, instead employing a team of ghostwriters and then usually looking at the finished work. “He kind of separated himself from the business over the years, because he could,” the employee said. “We [know] that it’s his name that’s selling products. It’s not like you could write an article and say, ‘This article was written by Mr. Z,’ because no one’s going to want to read it then.”

At the bottom of each article on Mercola.com, readers will find a banner announcing the various organizations that receive a cut of the company’s profits. These include the Rabies Challenge Fund, which aims to minimize the amount of legally required rabies vaccinations for dogs because the group believes that rabies vaccinations can cause cancer, seizures, anemia, and many other health conditions, and the National Vaccine Information Center, a nonprofit that New Yorker writer Michael Specter describes as “the most influential advocacy group in the campaign against universal vaccination.” Mercola has worked with the NVIC’s leader, Barbara Loe Fisher, in efforts to demonize inoculations. In 2011, they paid to display an antivaccination advertisement on a billboard in Times Square, prompting the American Academy of Pediatrics to petition CBS Outdoor to remove the ad on behalf of its 60,000-plus doctor members.

 

The reason the American Academy of Pediatrics reacted as it did is simple: Vaccination is a proven health tool. Vaccines prevent infectious disease and protect communities. While they are not without risk of rare adverse side effects, vaccines are a magnificent public safety achievement, at least on par with water filtration and seat belts. The brand of vaccine skepticism pushed by Mercola, Fisher, and celebrity activists like Jenny McCarthy is not an innocuous countercultural viewpoint, like believing in horoscopes or practicing Bikram yoga. Anti-vaxx proselytizing is dangerous to public health. It scares people into leaving their children and their communities vulnerable to preventable outbreaks. Due in part to the upswing in vaccine skepticism, diseases like measles and mumps are back in the news.

In her book On Immunity, an examination of vaccination fears, Eula Biss wrote about Mercola as one of the originating disinformation agents. She traced a persistent online rumor that the vaccine for H1N1, otherwise known as the swine flu, contained a chemical called squalene to an article written by Mercola, “Squalene: The Swine Flu Vaccine’s Dirty Little Secret Exposed.”

“The reproductions of Mercola’s article that proliferated across the Web early in the pandemic were then, and still remain, uncorrected. But by the time I traced them to the version on his website in the fall of 2009, the original article already included a correction in the header clarifying that none of the H1N1 vaccines distributed in the United States contained squalene. This was not a minor point of correction, but the article had gone viral before being corrected,” Biss wrote. “Like a virus, it had replicated itself repeatedly, overwhelming more credible information about the vaccine.”

Antivaccination screeds with titles like “Vaccination Dangers Can Kill You or Ruin Your Life” and “Hepatitis B Vaccine Highly Linked to Sudden Infant Death” are plentiful on Mercola.com. Most recently, the site published “Vaccines — Are They Still Contributing to the Greater Good?” in November. It has more than 675,000 views so far. Mercola has also gotten chummy with the original anti-vaxxer; he has interviewed Andrew Wakefield, the disbarred doctor who published the now-discredited study linking autism to vaccinations, which launched the modern anti-vaxx movement. After the U.K. General Medical Council’s Fitness to Practise panel discredited his research, Wakefield was stripped of his medical license, The Lancet retracted the paper, and many peer-reviewed studies have refuted Wakefield’s findings. Yet he remains at the center of the antivaccination movement.

In addition to championing Wakefield, Mercola.com has attacked high-profile vaccine proponents, including Dr. Paul Offit, the chair of vaccinology at the University of Pennsylvania’s Perelman School of Medicine. Mercola’s website derides Offit as a “dangerous [‘expert’] you should never EVER believe”; in the fun-house mirror of Mercola World, he is vilified as a greedy shill for Big Pharma. In reality, Offit is a pediatrician and infectious-disease expert who coinvented a rotavirus vaccine and wrote a book on pseudoscience. He is an outspoken advocate for vaccination and, as such, is the target of smear campaigns from the antivaccination movement.

Like all alternative medicine practitioners, he wants you to believe his magic,” Offit told me. “He wants you to reject certain major tenets of modern medicine.”

Mercola’s emphasis on rejecting accepted wisdom in favor of questionable guidance is at the heart of his danger; he conditions his fans not to think freely but to swap trust in experts for trust in only him. As Offit noted, to believe in Mercola is to push away much of modern medicine.

While his career started in Illinois, Mercola moved to Florida a few years ago. He spends time with his partner, an effervescent blonde named Erin Elizabeth, the proprietor of her own alternative-health website, called Health Nut News. Elizabeth characterizes herself as a survivor of a vaccine injury as well as of chronic Lyme disease, a controversial condition disputed in the mainstream medical community. (Neither the Centers for Disease Control nor the National Institutes of Health recognizes the diagnosis.) It’s not hard to see why the two hit it off; Elizabeth refers to turmeric as “better than chemo” for cancer patients, and she is obsessed with uncovering a pattern in the deaths of holistic practitioners. They match up well.

In his videos, interviews, and articles, Mercola certainly seems sincere, but some critics doubt how genuine he is about what he promotes. Steven Salzberg, the Bloomberg distinguished professor of biomedical engineering, computer science, and biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University, also writes for Forbes about pseudoscience. He says he sees Mercola as a “snake-oil salesman.” “He’s just doing it for the money, though I think he’s completely unscrupulous. The reason he’s against vaccines is that he claims he has some other natural supplements that he thinks are good for you,” Salzberg said. “Which is completely false, utterly false. And that’s potentially dangerous. That’s where what he does can be harmful. Otherwise the main harm he does is to your wallet.”

Former employees describe Mercola as more of a confused, easily distracted believer than a straightforward charlatan. “I think he believes whatever he says, and if you really research him, you’ll see that he changes his mind all the time,” former media relations employee Gaea Powell said.

Powell has no love for her former boss. “I would describe him as a tyrant, a bully, unstable,” she said. While Powell remains sympathetic to some of the ideas Mercola espouses about alternative health care, she found the workplace culture of Mercola.com dysfunctional. Powell described a business practice to me — which was corroborated by another former Mercola employee who wished to remain anonymous — in which Mercola would obtain products from businesses under the guise of potentially reviewing or featuring them, and then attempt to copycat them for his website.

“I witnessed Dr. Mercola, he asked me to get [water filtration] devices so he could have [Mercola Health Resources CEO] Steve Rye have someone take it apart so they could steal the technology and make their own,” Powell told me.

Much of the criticism lobbed at Mercola is separate from accusations about his business practices; he is primarily viewed as dangerous because of the beliefs his website espouses. “I think he’s the most dangerous health information source in the world,” Dr. Stephen Barrett, a retired psychiatrist who operates a website called Quackwatch.com, told me. “Mercola attacks proven public health measures — vaccination and fluoridation — and encourages people to do all sorts of things that haven’t the slightest validity.”

“There’s so much there that’s potentially harmful. There’s the antivaccine stuff, there’s the cancer quackery. [Mercola] featured a video by Tullio Simoncini, an Italian doctor who claims that all cancer is a fungus and the way to cure it is by injecting baking soda into it,” Dr. David Gorski, a surgical oncologist who also serves as managing editor of the blog Science-Based Medicine, told me.

I couldn’t find the video Gorski mentioned, but I did find other articles where Mercola cites Simoncini’s baking soda cancer cure. There is evidence that the video once existed on his site, though, as searching for “fungus cancer Tullio Simoncini” within Mercola.com brings up a thumbnail that describes a “video interview with a prominent Italian oncologist expanding on his alternative views” from 2008. But when I clicked on it, the URL rerouted to a different article about GMO labeling. Here’s the thumbnail that’s still up on the website:

(Mercola.com)
(Mercola.com)

Perhaps the idea that fungus causes cancer and one can treat it by injecting baking soda finally crossed Mercola and his ghostwriters’ boundary for mendacity, and the team removed it; I do not know, because Mercola.com has not responded to my many requests for comment and participation in this piece.

Pharmaceutical companies and the mainstream medical establishment they supply — “Big Pharma” in Mercola parlance — form a fat, easy target, perhaps at its most unsympathetic moment. Opiate addictions lay waste to Americans at a grim clip; this crisis was fueled by the behavior of pharmaceutical companies like Purdue Pharma. “Drug Industry Is Responsible for Mass Addiction” a 2016 Mercola headline sings; it’s hard to argue there. It is important to separate Mercola’s strain of “natural health news” from the larger concept of “alternative medicine” or critics of pharmaceutical corporations. Good alternative medicine can be any variety of new treatments, including those derived from plant sources, as long as it is still evidence-based and rooted in the scientific process. Bad alternative medicine ignores evidence in favor of hunches and fears.

“I think all medicine is ‘alternative’ before it becomes mainstream — chemotherapy was ‘alternative’ at some point — so I am eager to see where this field goes,” cancer expert Siddhartha Mukherjee wrote in a Q&A about his Pulitzer Prize–winning book, The Emperor of All Maladies: A Biography of Cancer. “Much of our pharmacopeia is derived from plant sources, and there are more chemicals in plants than we know of or know how to use. As yet, there have been few unbiased trials of these medicines in cancer treatment or prevention.”

But Mercola is not pioneering anything. Mercola.com is primarily a repository for ghostwritten, aggregated “natural health” tips from elsewhere on the internet.

In many cases, he (or whoever is writing under his name) starts from a reasonable position of skepticism toward the medical establishment, hooking readers by distinguishing himself from the cocksure doctor-elite — and then he peppers in antivaccine and other, more extreme viewpoints, all while selling supplements and other wellness products that he claims are the real health tools. Mercola casts himself as a rogue truth-teller railing against a greed-driven industry, when in reality he is a profiteer of the very same culture he derides. Consider pharmaceutical mega-corporation Pfizer, which owns Alacer Corp., the enormous vitamin and supplement company behind best-selling vitamin C powder Emergen-C. There is nothing “alternative” about shilling supplements anymore.

It is maddening to see someone who wields his osteopathy degree as bona fides; just as his supposed foes do, Mercola pegs his authority to give you health advice and sell you health products to his status as a credentialed expert. To see Mercola.com for what it is does not require dismissing experimental medicine or denigrating new treatments that use plants. Nor is decrying Mercola’s indiscriminate umbrella of cockeyed cure-alls the same as dismissing all treatments currently viewed as avant-garde or controversial.

You can believe that a healthy lifestyle and diet can prevent illness and still see past Mercola’s gimmick. You can still have valid concerns about conventional medicine, you can still think your doctor is arrogant, and you can still loathe the practices of large pharmaceutical companies. To critique Mercola is simply to acknowledge that much of the information put forth on his website can be easily disproved.

“There were more than a few people who’d call, and you’d almost want to tell them — stop what you’re doing, this is not good,” the former employee told me, when I asked how it felt to work for a company publishing bad science. “I would have no problem working there and doing all this if people were better on average at Googling stuff.

“The problem is, you’d put out an article and people would take it at 100 percent face value without typing into Google, ‘Hey, what does this supplement do?’”

“When I was growing up, autism wasn’t really a factor,” Donald Trump told a reporter in 2007. “And now all of a sudden, it’s an epidemic. Everybody has their theory. My theory, and I study it because I have young children, my theory is the shots. We’re giving these massive injections at one time, and I really think it does something to the children.” Trump has since tweeted a variety of statements implying he is skeptical of the current recommended vaccine schedule. More recently, he met with Mercola associate Andrew Wakefield and other prominent antivaccination advocates in August on the campaign trail.

The president-elect has articulated beliefs in pseudoscience, such as when he … publicly scoffed at the scientific consensus in 2014 that Ebola wasn’t contagious. And his chumminess with the antivaccination movement suggests that his administration may not see eye-to-eye with scientists and medical experts. What’s more, his choice for national security adviser, Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn, has a history of spreading conspiracy theories; this means Trump’s closest national security counsel has a history of taking false news on the internet seriously.

The information spread by Mercola is about medicine, not politics, but it contributes to an atmosphere in which facts are held in low regard and science is viewed with suspicion. In this way, Mercola.com reminds me of a health-specific version of Alex Jones’s Infowars. Mercola is a milder-mannered cohort of Jones, who built his business and brand by yelling a broad constellation of conspiracies into a camera until he scared people into buying prepper equipment. Both seek to discredit the establishment, and both have made themselves rich by doing so. Like Jones, Mercola congratulates his audience for questioning authority and warns that information presented by people in positions of power is potentially a scam. His embrace of antivaccination party lines exemplifies the same utter lack of interest in facts that Jones displays when he joins in with Sandy Hook truthers.

Right now, although his website moves “health” products and brings in eyeballs, Mercola remains on the fringes of mainstream medicine and the edges of respectability — but this does not make him innocuous. He is a figurehead of the antivaccination movement, the antifluoridation movement, and, more broadly, the antiscience movement. Along with fellow online “natural health” advocates like the Food Babe, Mercola floods the internet with dubious advice, all while positioning himself as a freethinker’s ally.

For 19 years, Mercola.com has profited off of scaring people away from evidence, away from science. It is not harmless hippie woo-woo: Mercola has created a tried-and-true fearmongering blueprint.

“Climate change is not a belief system. It’s an evidence-based system. We have affected this earth to the extent that there is increasing levels of CO2, which has caused the greenhouse effect, that has clearly increased the temperature of the planet. It’s causing ice caps to melt. That’s not a matter of debate. So when Trump, for example, says climate change is a hoax, perpetuated by the Chinese, it’s when you move into a world where there is no evidence and you just make things up,” Paul Offit said. “And if people criticize you, then you just simply criticize them, saying, in his case, the media lies.

“Or in the case of people like Joseph Mercola, you say that it’s what ‘doctors don’t want you to know.’ Doctors don’t want you to know all these magic medicines that I’m telling you about. Doctors don’t want you to know that vaccines can do far more harm than good. You just simply deny evidence. And it’s incredibly dangerous.”

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Dr. Mercola as a senior in college

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M G
M G
June 4, 2019 12:21 pm

I love it.

This is how a REAL debate ensues.

I will still use Mercola’s recipes for fermenting my own food until I develop my own techniques.

However, I would like to point out that while Mercola may be a scam artist with his stuff “ghostwritten”, there is some good advice to be gleaned.

Of course it is a personal attack, Stucky. But, I’ve kind of gotten used to it. I’m kind of thriving on it, even.

You call THIS a storm?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZH9ebAZouk

I also would point out that Gary Young of YoungLiving essential oils is also a it of a scammer. I got into the “oils” game when a member of our little prepper group invited a specialist in to talk about the curative powers of the oils. Well, I signed up and then, later, realized the jerk had signed us all up to sell the shit in a pyramid scheme. I called the company and complained and they let me out of the contract I’d signed but the other people in the group didn’t seem bothered by it as I was. While there is indeed some real therapeutic value in essential oils, they are way overpriced for what they really are.

I have only read this ONE book of Mercola’s and liked it. I STILL like it. So there.

Oh, and I make my own oils… just like the Stewart family from down the road. His wife had stage 4 breast cancer and claims the oils cured it. So does the 80 year old dude who mows and bails our hay for us. He had prostate cancer and now, after a regimen of fermented foods and some oils of various herbal derivative, seems just fine. says he doesn’t know if it was the food or the oil or the prayer, but something cured him.

And, it weren’t chemo or radiation because he said he wasn’t dying like that. So, he’s not dying. He and his twin brother are now my surrogate uncles.

M G
M G
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 2:03 pm

Well, I will take it back that it was personal against me… though there’s a bit of that that ensued (and I remember your own comment many moons ago that you did not understand the venomous attack against me over what was really a misunderstanding. I pay attention to almost everything though I do not always comment… I saw the requests to “check your email” to everyone and I know what I think I know.)

Now, about Mercola’s book and the 9 steps to health.

I mostly read step six, which is about fermenting foods.

You probably spent more time refuting it than I spent reading it or writing the little review.

I don’t have that kind of time to waste here.

I stand by the 9 steps (including the pure water which comes from 300 feet below my barn) and think the fermenting recipes are valuable, if for no other reason than they are easy to follow and the ingredients are fairly easy to find at a good whole foods or health food store.

And, since I got the book at the library, it cost me nothing.

Now, since no one will purchase the book through the site, it adds nothing to Admin’s coffers either.

Except me. I still am buying the damn book just to SPITE you. I may buy two of them.

Because I really do love you, you big cantankerous lumberjack looking dude from New Jersey. Geesh.

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  M G
November 26, 2020 10:32 am

I think the book sales revenue went away around this time… So many changes in so little time folks.

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  Ghost
November 1, 2021 10:09 pm

Crazy times… and sad ones.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
June 4, 2019 1:03 pm

I’ve been fermenting for awhile now, also making goat milk yoghurt and kefir. Here’s some info on fermenting jars….I make fermented yoghurt, easier to digest. It ferments for 24 hrs. in a pickling jar. https://www.pickl-it.com/

As to the article: I tried to research the author, no real info on her, she didn’t interview Mercola, instead she relied on anecdotal info and research. She’s definitely suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, and her pro-fluoridation stance is utter bullshit. Every dentist I’ve ever asked has stated that adding fluoride to drinking water is counter productive and can cause flurosis of the teeth. I put more faith in the ‘quakery’ of Mercola than in some anti-Trump internet blogger.

Fluorosis is a cosmetic condition that affects the teeth. It’s caused by overexposure to fluoride during the first eight years of life. This is the time when most permanent teeth are being formed
https://www.webmd.com/children/fluorosis-symptoms-causes-treatments#1

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 2:48 pm

I’ve been fermenting for awhile now – Mygirl…maybe

Stop stewing in your juices and apologize, it really is that easy.

M G
M G
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 2:56 pm

She did so, kinda sorta, below.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 9:45 pm

Says the guy who’s never apologized for his fermented juices no matter how cheesy .

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
June 4, 2019 11:41 pm

Sorry if I offended you DDung, I hope you can forgive me.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mistico (EC)
June 5, 2019 9:04 am

Dung is a turd in the dirt; impossible to denigrate..

Ghost
Ghost
  Mistico (EC)
November 26, 2020 10:34 am

I really do wish someone could tell me whether to pray for you or be pissed that you haven’t checked in.

Ghost
Ghost
  Ghost
November 1, 2021 10:15 pm

And, now we know for sure. I’m still a bit pissed you didn’t tell me.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 3:11 pm

Deleted for review

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Mygirl...maybe
June 5, 2019 6:15 pm

@darling my girl.”
“Every dentist I’ve ever asked has stated that adding fluoride to drinking water is counter productive and can cause flurosis of the teeth.”

You never asked me. Nor any of most dentists I know. The naturally occurring fluoride in much of Texas’ ground water has high levels. I would guess I have seen the teeth of more than 35,000 folks personally. And I can count on hands and toes the number of abnormal fluorosis mottling of tooth enamel. Some folks from centex and Colorado have the most of it. On the plus side those folks have very low caries activity. No Cavities! Protection from our carbohydrate sugar laced diet. I bitch about sugar more than fluoride.

In dental school they hired a Phd to teach us the very latest nutritional information. He was nick named King Vitamin by us students. The goal was to educate us to be nutritional experts. I thought of that when I was intimate with a female anorexic/bulimic half my age who likely has a higher IQ than mine, and a trust fund to beat the band. Her quip comment to me when I tried to be authoritative about nutrition, was “Everyone is an Expert”. I could find little to counter that statement.

My college biochemistry professor was the first to isolate Vitamin D3, the active chemical necessary to convert sunlight into the human steroidal components. Killing tens of thousands of baby chicks to do so. My most influential professor in dental school was an expert on bone and teeth formation, and calcium metabolism. And the way fluoride is incorporated into bone and teeth, instead of calcium. Don’t eat seafood or drink teas if you want to avoid fluoride. Do not ask me what a healthy concentration would be but epidemiological studies find great benefit for tooth resistance to cavities. And some studies indicate it improves bone strength as well; and is prophylactic for hip and other fractures in the elderly.

“Groundwater with high
fluoride concentrations,
affects up to 60% of populations of Pakistan, East Africa (Sudan,
Ethiopia, Uganda, Kenya and Tanzania), West Africa, Thailand, China, Sri
Lanka, and Southern Africa.
In the United States, fluoride levels vary
less significantly. Less than one-half of one percent of U.S. residents
on community water systems have drinking water that exceeds 2 ppm and less than one-tenth of one
percent have water that exceeds 4 ppm. Water samples from Colorado, analyzed when studying the
association between Colorado children with yellow/brown stains and reduced tooth decay in the early
1900’s, contained 2 to 12 ppm fluoride.”
https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/HEALTHYENVIRONMENTS/DRINKINGWATER/SOURCEWATER/DOMESTICWELLSAFETY/Documents/Contaminant%20Factsheets/Fluoride.pdf

Oxygen is deadly toxic in concentrations a few percent higher than found in our atmosphere.

‘Tis true about experts, I came to believe when viewing the likes of Dr. Mercola over the decades. And I have seen quacks with Las Vegas entertainment value.

Sick people in body, mind and spirit will clutch at a way to get better. And some get rich delivering hope with a dollop of sandwiched nutritional advice.

My parting nutrition shot is eat more fiber. Really! Better to make firm poop for slinging. And to improve your physical health.

Big Pharma rules half the world along with big oil. They have morphed into profit making machines at any cost instead of delivering products with benefit to an educated consumer.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  KeyserSusie
June 5, 2019 7:06 pm

There is naturally occurring fluoride and synthetic fluoride, guess which goes into drinking water? Riddle me this…if fluoride is in the soil, tea and seafood, how much is too much? Sodium fluoride is a by product of aluminum smelting and if it is so benign why are there poison control warnings on toothpaste cartons?
You said you didn’t know how much was too much. Now, I don’t want fluoride in my water, do I have a choice? I can supplement with fluoride, I cannot control what is put into water. The science isn’t conclusive regarding the excessive consumption of fluoride, there are claims that it damages the skeleton.
Sugar isn’t in drinking water, I agree with the toxicity of said substance…..I can control how much sugar I eat,

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Mygirl...maybe
June 5, 2019 8:55 pm

I get your drifting message. So ban water chlorination too? Science IS conclusive fluoride is a poison in high concentrations.

Science is always improving as a rule. Most municipal water systems use
Fluorosilicic acid, an organic liquid produced as by product of hydrogen fluoride and phosphoric acid production. It is generally used for fluoridation of water to maintain fluoride level in water by municipal corporations and in toothpastes. Maintaining fluoride levels helps in preventing tooth decay. [ undisputed]

And what does table salt have in it? sodium chloride. H2O is made up of two elements that are deadly in high concentrations. Fluoride is the 13th most common element on earth.

“Commercially available hydrofluosilicic acid, sodium fluoride, and sodium silicofluoride are
not known to contribute significant quantities of contaminants that adversely affect the
potability of drinking water.”

https://www.waternz.org.nz/Folder?Action=View%20File&Folder_id=315&File=140604_nzwwa_f_gpg_revision_final.pdf

I believe there are more serious water issues in the oceans; which have a natural concentration of 1ppm. (More plastic than fish in the oceans in 30 years) Which is generally the accepted level for water treatment.
“The three main fluoride compounds generally used to fluoridate water are: sodium fluoride, hydrofluorosilicic acid (hexafluorosilicic acid) and sodium silicofluoride. All these fully mix (dissociate) in water, resulting in the availability of fluoride ions to prevent tooth decay.

“So regardless of the original compound source, the end result is the same – fluoride ions in the water.”
http://theconversation.com/four-myths-about-water-fluoridation-and-why-theyre-wrong-80669

My local berg has fluoride in the aquifer water. It is the result of dry cleaning chemicals and other waste being dumped. The acidity eats away at the limestone and releases fluoride.

I get a topical fluoride treatment every time I receive prophylactic dental care. Anyone with a cavity in the last 5 years should too imo.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  KeyserSusie
June 5, 2019 11:34 pm

Keyser, I’ve read that it’s better to use the topical fluoride treatments rather than ingesting it. What say you?

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
  Vixen Vic
June 6, 2019 10:04 am

Better is relative. Topical treatment is great before and after the sugar bugs invade. It is the best antidote going, in the middle of rampant decay, short of changing diet. It has been said it easier to change someone’s sex life than change their eating habits.

Many do not value (or can not afford) dental treatment. In large populations it prevents serious dental problems. I saw typical low income children when I did medicaid and it ain’t pretty.

If I were snarky I might ask those who disfavor fluoridation how their dentures fit…

Lager
Lager
  KeyserSusie
June 7, 2019 6:44 pm

Now there’s an opinion with experience and references to back it up. Thx, Doc.

Ghost
Ghost
  KeyserSusie
November 26, 2020 10:39 am

Whosie Susie? My friend volunteered for Doctors Across Borders because I told her about you and she ended up stuck in Africa until September.

Rest in Peace, you crazy dentist. You were one interesting dude.

Ghost
Ghost
  M G
November 26, 2020 10:29 am

From this page to God’s ear… since I posted this comment a lot has happened. My 80 year-old neighbor died of pancreatic cancer. He never seemed ill until the last week. He died just after the quarantine started. He’s probably included in the COVID numbers.

Saw a reference to Mercola and couldn’t help get this up on the radar screen for others. Not me so much. I’m a changed creature, bubby.

BL
BL
June 4, 2019 12:25 pm

(1.) Big Pharma and the AMA attack ANYONE who furthers the cause of natural medicine.

(2.) EVERYONE is trying to make a buck, they need to pay they bills too bro.

(3.) I tend to BELIEVE anyone that TPTB go out of their way to discredit for daring to speak of clean food and water without the toxic additives.

NOT saying Dr. M is the truth and nothing but the truth, just that I like what I have seen so far.

BL
BL
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 12:48 pm

“Badge of Honor” Stucky. Fire away, won’t change the fact that I AM RIGHT.

PS- Blow me!

M G
M G
  BL
June 4, 2019 2:17 pm

Now, what kind of Bea Attitude is that?

BL
BL
  M G
June 4, 2019 3:35 pm

Mags- He called me a fucken moron, what kind of ‘tude is he projecting?

To Bea or not to Bea (attitude).

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
June 7, 2019 6:49 pm

You Go, Bea. Got spunk.

M G
M G
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 2:17 pm

I don’t think it was personal against me. But, definitely personal for someone.

M G
M G
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 2:10 pm

Hey… this is fun.

This is a better debate about fermented foods than the shitfest between LLPOH and Mygirl in tandem with the loathesome blight from the site and I slinging shit at one another.

How’s this?

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ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  M G
June 4, 2019 2:28 pm

I cooked with a big hunk of clean lard last night. Yum!!

M G
M G
  ILuvCO2
June 4, 2019 2:33 pm

Absolutely… I am going to harvest the goat fat from that little kettle of Stew I have walking around on four legs soon… got soap?

How to Render (Goat) Fat

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
June 4, 2019 3:05 pm

Hey, don’t knock lard. It makes the best pie crusts and biscuits and is also great for frying potatoes and real lard is healthier than margarine or other fats.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  M G
June 5, 2019 3:53 am

Lard is actually good for you, as long as it’s not from a factory farm. I buy good lard regularly.
People lived their lives for centuries without problems from lard until unsanitary conditions took over. Then it was, oh, so dangerous. No, it was that the people who own the pigs feed them terrible food and treated them horribly, and it showed in the final product.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 9:47 pm

Your pantyshields are moroon again.

Return when you stop spotting.

Yo’ momma
Yo’ momma
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 9:54 pm

You’re the fucking moron. Finished with Burning Platform bullshit. Rot in hell, you sellout piece of garbage

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Yo’ momma
June 5, 2019 3:56 am

Who the heck is Yo’ momma?

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Vixen Vic
June 5, 2019 6:59 pm

Likely HR

M G
M G
  BL
June 4, 2019 2:07 pm

The recipes are good ones. Of course, I assume they could be gotten from anywhere, but I got the book recommended by a nutrition expert at the Veterans Administration. And, by the way? Popeye Doyle said the guy is “controversial” but then he said “Anyone with a different way of doing things causes controversy in the medical industry.”

Industry. Hmmmm…. what happens when things become an “industry?”

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  BL
June 4, 2019 2:17 pm

Just wondering what Bea said that is moranic? I see nothing in that post to disagree with.

M G
M G
  Mary Christine
June 4, 2019 2:38 pm

It is one of those jokes from longagofaraway, MC… it wasn’t funny then either, but it stuck.

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Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 7:28 pm

Well I gave ya a thumbs up for your reply and didn’t DV the original, so there.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mary Christine
June 4, 2019 9:53 pm

Gout making it hard to fit your fat feet in your crusader stirrups? Helmet pressing your pig cheeks against your snout?

Does the maid wince when stooping to retrieve your chamber pot, Noble Knight?

Try being worthy of your shield instead of a donkey-drawn cart. You want to know some really good personal insults?

Let’s have a go. MC will be there to pet you after you whine.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Diogenes’ Dung
June 4, 2019 10:09 pm

I’ll pet my husband. Stucky will have to go elsewhere for pets.

M G
M G
  Stucky
June 5, 2019 7:02 am

Is that what an insult looks like? I’ve been doing it all wrong with self-fellatio faggot.

M G
M G
  M G
June 7, 2019 6:52 pm

So, I stopped by the Veterans Home and some of the dudes who follow me here at TBP told me a really, really, really nasty insult.

I’m going to use it very soon.

Dutchman
Dutchman
June 4, 2019 12:28 pm

All the phobes are attracted to this BS.

Trace amounts of chemicals. Such as chlorine or fluorine in tap water. In populated areas it’s not possible to have a well – you need to rely on tap water. The chlorine in tap water provides a large reduction of most bacteria and viruses. And besides, the water works test the water everyday. What about your well? Maybe your neighbors septic is draining into it.

Then too the water needs to be distributed – but wait – there’s that harmful iron and copper piping. How about the amalgam in tooth fillings? I have a stainless steel hip replacement.

There’s harmful vaccinations.

I wonder why our life expectancy is increasing, when we are subjected to all these poisons?

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Dutchman
June 5, 2019 3:59 am

Got to disagree with you about harmless vaccinations, but that would be another article.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dutchman
March 1, 2021 9:09 pm

US average life expectancy is lowest among the top 199 countries. US outspends all of them in healthcare. Also, unlike other countries, US has not outlawed GMO crops with their attendant Monsanto dosing of Roundup.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Anonymous
March 1, 2021 11:36 pm

There’s an article to today saying Mexico is banning GMO corn and glyphosate.

Mexico to Ban Glyphosate, GM Corn Presidential Decree Comes Despite Intense Pressure from Industry, U.S. Authorities

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 12:37 pm

Tsk. Stucky, I thought you were a better person. Llpoh doesn’t need your encouragement, he apparently can’t help himself, it’s in his nature and trolling and harassing me has become his life’s mission…. and…. better and more interesting articles will insure that the count will go up without having to resort to violence:)

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 12:48 pm

And the nymphet lobs the first grenade…

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 1:16 pm

bark bark little skippy

M G
M G
  Mygirl...maybe
June 7, 2019 6:53 pm

Wrong place to post.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 9:54 pm

The first grenade exploded when your momma dropped you on your ear.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 1:12 pm

Stuck, I’ve already given it some thought, I would like a truce because after the heat of battle, when I reflect I realize my part in being a horses’ ass too. I have a temper, I’m a red head. I extent the peace pipe, where he goes with it is now in his circle. Thanks for the input and for taking the time to write what you just wrote…
Cheers

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 3:20 pm

Alrighty then. I will lay off a bit. That is not a huge peace offering. But it is a start.

In general, I have found there were two lines not to cross – 1) talk about family (I try to avoid that one, but failed a time or two, to my regret) and 2) call someone a pedophile. Both those are no go zones.

My girl uncovered a third – claiming a person would support war criminals that experiment on humans. That is a step too far, as well, and people need to know what they are actually saying when they say it.

Someone can call me damn near anything, and it will not have the result this last episode did. But call me someone that would support people that experiment on humans? Wow. That is way over the line.

Stuck, you are my dear friend as well, and thanks for those words. I worry about you often. And was so glad to hear things are going ok.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 3:37 pm

What noobs do not know and really should be in the TBP manual is that you insist on honesty and integrity. Anybody cruising by here with lies and innuendo, with a willy nilly attitude towards law and order or truth and justice will be dealt with accordingly. There is playful bs and outright slander. I was appalled to hear your person abused so blithely and willingly. I hope that when she dips her jelly-filled donut into her coffee, it breaks off and splashes her, it would serve her right and then she would be reminded of her crimes here.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 3:50 pm

Give it a rest already, please….you aren’t exactly saint material little fella.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 4:53 pm

Why? You never apologized to me. Not that I’d accept. I love to needle you, Big Red.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 6:58 pm

You brat….

M G
M G
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 7, 2019 7:13 pm

I shared this with Mygirl, but it was taken with YOU in mind… AWD says little dogs rule!

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CarlosDanger
CarlosDanger
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 3:41 pm

Hey Llper,
How are the chicks over in Spain,and back in Oz?
What’s the age of consent?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  CarlosDanger
June 4, 2019 4:21 pm

Even if they consent I am far too aged. And I am married and have never wandered all these decades. Fear also comes into the equation. I hope to die with both my nuts.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 3:46 pm

Ahem, and thank you, I’m not going to rehash what went before. I think we are both adults and I think that we can communicate and not be ugly or hateful. If I offended you I truly didn’t mean to.

Administrator
Administrator
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 4:04 pm

I love when two shit throwing monkeys make up on TBP. It makes it all worth it.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Administrator
June 4, 2019 4:09 pm

I am still kinda pissed but will get over it.

Nice apes you got there.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Administrator
June 4, 2019 10:03 pm

Those are lesbian dance instructors, not United Nation Delegates.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 4:14 pm

I’ve learned not to say I’m sorry, primarily because there are sometimes rejoinders like ” yeah, you’re sorry alright’ and other snappy comments of that ilk. How’s about an extended apology?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 4:19 pm

Saul Goodman

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 7:37 pm
Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 10:02 pm

Well I meant to offend. It’s FUN!

Is it time for all teams to hit the showers, rinse the flung shit?

Really?

Fuckin peacemakers. What a damned unpatriotic thing to do.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 5:47 pm

I was there all along stoking the flame of peace. Do I get any thanks?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 7:00 pm

You were there biting ankles and stirring shit….brat

BL
BL
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 7:35 pm

EC, are you going to smoke the peace pipe with Mygirl? You are completely ineffective against her wit…..so I would consider it bud.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  BL
June 4, 2019 9:39 pm

I’m not afraid of Big Red,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuFQyVupc9M

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  BL
June 4, 2019 10:06 pm

Oh… Oh!

A long barrel swerves toward you and the reticle is adjusted.

You see that glint in your scope?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 10:04 pm

You were lighting the pyre under everybody’s feet

Larger
Larger
  Stucky
June 7, 2019 7:15 pm

Nah, fokU2 downvoters.
Stuck done a good ting here.
He’s trying to build bridges, ‘stead of lobbin dynomite under them.
If’n you dweebs remember, there was a dustup atween kit & Tee-four, see? About misery & mayhem with a couple giffy files, a few mumfs back.
After the dust settled, a truce commenced, and Lo, and Behold, us randy old dogs are now privy to beauties, w nice hooters, heart shaped cabooses, and even a few toes EVERY Friday. Laughs, too.
Now, maybe NJ doesn’t wade in to the Friday night comedy hour, but, even me & Mistico were at odds on a couple comments in the past.
First time it happened, Stuck was peacemaker and now, weez buds., me and El Cynico.
Still, I find a few burrs in my saddle, occasionally, as I roam this field of truths & no holds barred.

-Giddyup!

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Llpoh
June 5, 2019 4:08 am

There are fighting words and there are words that need to be ignored. Everyone has that “those are fighting words” moments when they ball up their fists and come at you hard. However, the majority of words are just words. You have to pick your fights carefully and it has to be something extremely bad. But a word of advice, if being called a “cunt” is your fighting word, this is the wrong website to be on because that word flies around here a lot.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Vixen Vic
June 5, 2019 12:52 pm

Women’s Lib posers react like trained seals to that trigger word. Old Pangloss would usually tell me to adjust the gap “just a red cunt hair.” I asked why it was red, he said that was the thickest of hair. When I had trouble inserting a close tolerance piece, he would say “put some hair on (the opening).” Women might use words men find offensive like “little” but we don’t hoot and holler as much. Do not use that word to describe anything a man owns. Try “big” instead.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
March 1, 2021 9:10 pm

Who cares?

M G
M G
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 2:19 pm

Now, about those stained and nasty boots…

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
June 4, 2019 3:08 pm

Tossed them…got me a new pair….Ariats…..red.

M G
M G
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 9:12 pm

Alrighty then… Are you a freckle face too?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
June 4, 2019 10:08 pm

Freckles but not an abundance, I’m a true paleface, green eyes. curly hair, a child of the Norsemen…tiny bit of a berserker in my background..not me but my hair color….
https://www.behance.net/gallery/205319/Reneissance-Act

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  M G
June 4, 2019 10:15 pm

I freckle but I’m not covered with them, I freckle and that’s what I pretend is a tan. Green eyed so double recessive gene….curly haired child of the Norsemen….I think that’s where the beserker temper comes from…..

not me but the hair color, curls and skin are the same and yes, that is hair augmented with hairpieces but I think she looks lovely….
https://www.behance.net/gallery/205319/Reneissance-Act

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 10:23 pm

Damn, I posted and then it got lost so I rewrote and reposted and now ….well, you get the picture…twice.

M G
M G
  Mygirl...maybe
June 5, 2019 6:39 am

My Granny Fannie was Irish, as her husband (when she was 14) was also. And, yes, they were second cousins. That was quite common in the 30s.

Both red-heads. But, oddly, NONE of their children had red hair. The grandkids… about half of us with red hair. Perhaps a recessive gene that skips generations, I think.

I had a lot of auburn in my natural hair long ago, before it started fading and turning gray.

M G
M G
  Mygirl...maybe
June 7, 2019 7:11 pm

I took a photo… wait. Let me go upload it. It is really for the Coyote dude, but perhaps, since he has a crush on you, he will see it here. There was a TBP big dog here the first year or so I started commenting (rarely). I think he commented (about me) “I never read a word the bitch writes.” LOL

So, I wrote an essay about posting images using Photobucket (bastards… confiscated my images and want me to PAY them for free hosting.) Then, I started showing him some of my disgusting fat women with folds images from when I flew with nasty boys in the USAF. LOL.

He liked the nasty photos. If he hadn’t passed away, I think we could have been blog buds. Not besties, but buds.

So, I brought him up the other day and when I was behind this car, I took a photo, because EC liked AWD too.

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TS
TS
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 1:20 pm

Right on, right on, right on.

M G
M G
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 2:18 pm

I offered him a Vegemite sandwich. Then, I discovered it was probably fermented food!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 9:58 pm

Lollypooh is a weak, turd-hurling weasel who makes gestures of goodwill laughable.

Why do you change his diapers while your pantyshield is fermenting?

M G
M G
  Stucky
June 5, 2019 6:57 am

I’m not going to jump into the gracious apology (good effort) but wanted to remind you that once upon a time I also had access to some really disgusting fat women images which seemed to pique the interest of AWD. Not to be maudlin, but there’s been a few here who I miss. For some reason, in spite of his being somewhat of a perv… I GOT AWD and liked him.

I collected the fat lady images from another Air Force dude I worked with for a number of years. He had tattoos of spiders on both arms… three total…the number of times he’d been treated for VD while stationed in the Phillipines, he said. It was the way things were when GIs were encouraged to be pigs.

But, he was the top dog in the Stan-Eval office in which I worked and I learned there how to fight as dirty as the rest of them. They learned to respect Big Joe’s little girl.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
March 1, 2021 9:10 pm

Who cares?

bigfoot
bigfoot
June 4, 2019 12:44 pm

Well, you are wrong. Mercola is a “total asshole.” That does not make him wrong about a great deal of what he says, though, self-interested as most of it is.

As for him changing his mind all the time, as new information and studies come out, why in hell would he not change his mind. I have been studying nutrition for forty years and changed my mind scores of times.

I was around when he first began his health site. For a year or two he sold nothing, but after that period of gaining trust he went big time hustle. His ego is the size of a house, but the SOB very often is accurate as newer studies have shown all along the way for years and years now.

For really accurate information without the self-promotion, Dr. Joel Furhman is a presence on YouTube and his books are superb reading. I do what he says for the most part.

M G
M G
  bigfoot
June 4, 2019 2:21 pm

No kidding.

I’m going to put the original image of the book with the suggestion people order the book through TBP below.

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Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 12:47 pm

When LLPOH trashes the comment thread on a pro-Mercola article, I capish quickly. He did the same for a Q article. That’s why the great man is a big dog like Stucky. Listen to the big boys, they will not steer you wrong.

BL
BL
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 12:54 pm

EC- Have you been using peyote buttons again?

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  BL
June 4, 2019 3:43 pm

Never use the stuff, only sell it to the gringos.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 5:37 pm

I’ve read somewhere that along with hiawasca (sp?) it’s a possible treatment for manic depression, er, bi-polar, er shizophrenic disorders. Maybe even beginning stages of paranoia.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Miles Long
June 4, 2019 6:03 pm

Hear that Hollywood? There’s a cure for you, girlfriend.

BL
BL
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 6:10 pm

….. Now that’s funny. 🙂

TS
TS
June 4, 2019 12:58 pm

As always, it’s all about being cautious and checking things out as much as possible. Like you said, Stuck, not everybody gives it the time needed to do so. Until the stage four hits, or the doctor’s face gets real serious. Then everyone magically finds the time. Usually too late.
Verify, cross reference, try to find the underlying raw data; all things to do as much as we can. In pretty much all areas, not just health. There’s a whole world out there trying to take as much as they can from as many people as they can in whatever manner they can. And sometimes the scammers are true believers in whatever they’re selling, but are just as deceived as their marks. Because THEY didn’t verify, etc.

By the way; sorry my friend never got back to you; he never answered my message, either. Nice guy, but it must have slipped through the cracks. In his defense, he is extremely on the go, all the time.

M G
M G
  TS
June 4, 2019 2:23 pm

I know people who claim that fermented foods and herbal oils and supplements defeated stage four cancer… one breast cancer case and one prostate cancer case.

Is it evidence or proof? No. It is nice to know them both.

Gerold
Gerold
June 4, 2019 1:20 pm

Of course, Mercola has to be taken with a grain of salt (fer fuck’s sake what doesn’t?) But, that doesn’t make him a scam artist. No one has to buy his products.

So, Stucky criticizes Mercola on the basis of government regulatory agencies like the FDA, numerous alphabet agencies and their food pyramid who advised us that high carb (“whole wheat goodness” bullshit) and low-fat diets were healthy, yet produced an obesity epidemic never before seen in history, not to mention escalating chronic diseases like diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, Alzheimer’s,’ dementia, MS, macular degeneration, and the list goes on and on.

I’ll take Mercola’s advice with a grain of salt long before I believe the government (the FUCKING GOVERNMENT!) that covers for and enables big pharma, big food and big medicine for the almighty buck regardless of the damage they do to our health.

Nothing Mercola said has ever hurt me. I can’t say the same for the government.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 3:05 pm

Ah, now I think I hear what you are saying; Mercola has some good points, and he has some bad points. Some of what he says is good, while some is obviously designed to make an income, whether the product is any good or not. That has always been my opinion of the man, and it is my responsibility to decide whether or not to take his advice or buy his products. One thing I don’t need is your help.

I think your article is just an ego trip for someone who is green with envy for the success level that he enjoys.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 6:25 pm

“Wrong. I’m one of the most ego-less people you’ll ever meet”

I am sure you think so, and your response is my confirmation.

M G
M G
  Anonymous
June 4, 2019 9:49 pm

He’s a decent man, TBP Stuckenheimer. I believe that.

M G
M G
  Stucky
June 4, 2019 9:43 pm

You really are. I have found you to be amazingly humble, when it becomes necessary for someone with some real backbone to be humble.

Most never do.

I truly LIKE you. My husband says to me… WHO? And I say, StuckNick… the guy I’ve invited to live by the pond.

This has been fun reading through the comments. Thanks so much for the rebuttal. Seriously… it reminds me to take any medical advice with a grain of salt (or a grain alcohol shooter.) But, still… I think the 9 steps are good ones. If I was on the other computer I would put the book cover up again.

I’ve been really busy today, most of the day. I can’t lift a lot, but my Nick makes me lift my share.

Is what a helpmeet is supposed to do, eh?

JLS
JLS
  Gerold
June 4, 2019 2:01 pm

Mercola is an excellent source for information that leads me to think of matters that I would never think about.

He may be a fraud, but definitely less a fraud than government alphabet agencies. He is definitely less compromised than FDA, EPA, AMA and USDA.

M G
M G
  JLS
June 4, 2019 9:50 pm

Thanks… I agree with you.

Long time lurker
Long time lurker
June 4, 2019 1:34 pm

My fuck off and die moment “Fluoride is a community health tool, as studies by the U.S. Public Health Service and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention indicate” stopped reading after that

JLS
JLS
  Long time lurker
June 4, 2019 2:03 pm

That guy may be hired by big pharma, big foods and AMA to attack messengers.

BL
BL
  JLS
June 4, 2019 2:06 pm

JLS- Exactly!

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
June 4, 2019 2:24 pm

I don’t need 50 reasons why I should opposed fluoride. 10 is enough. Before anyone throws shit at me, please read at least part of the link.

50 Reasons to Oppose Fluoridation

As for vaccines, they aren’t safe for everyone because if they were, Big P would not need to be protected by the Federal government against lawsuits. That started in the early 80’s and ever since the instance of vaccine injury has gone up. I am not anti-vaccine. I believe that there is a place for them but I am pro-vaccine and we do not need to be protected from every single disease known to man. We need to develop our bodies natural immune defense and early vaccinations stunts that.

M G
M G
  Mary Christine
June 4, 2019 2:45 pm

Exactly. I was resistant to vaccinations until my son went to public school. At which time he was forced to get six shots (two each thigh, one each arm) at one sitting.

I felt kind of bad, but not really. He was almost nine. I’d gotten him past the critical stage when the vaccines might hurt. I just acted like all kids had to get those shots for fourth grade.

gammer
gammer
  Mary Christine
June 4, 2019 6:26 pm

According to the Supreme Court they are “inherently unsafe”. If you look up the mortality data for all diseases, you will find that they were trending towards zero due to sanitation, clean water and food and basic nutrition knowledge of vitamins long before vaccines were invented. The same goes for diseases which still do not have vaccines, as they have disappeared. Vaccines are a fraud, they suffer from major technical issues (#1 Contamination). They spread the diseases they are supposed to guard against, they are not delivered the same way as diseases are transmitted…. and NONE OF THEM LAST FOREVER, like the gold standard of actually catching the disease. To disprove the science, I only need one of these facts, there are a dozen more if you care to look.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  gammer
June 5, 2019 4:30 am

Good post, gammer.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
June 4, 2019 2:26 pm

Well I think we can all agreed on one thing: Homeopathy is bullshit.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Iska Waran
June 4, 2019 2:33 pm

Homeopathy works on the principles as vaccines, so maybe it is bullshit.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Iska Waran
June 4, 2019 3:15 pm

Anyone who believes in homeopathy is a cunt.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Iska Waran
June 5, 2019 4:35 am

I don’t use homeopathy. I’m not sure if it’s legit or not. But it can be expensive, and it requires more study to figure out how to do it on your own than I’m willing to put into it. I’m happy with other natural remedies, such as herbalism and diet, and will simply stick with that.

Bob P
Bob P
June 4, 2019 2:26 pm

Interesting how most of the TBP community is as one on the major political and economic issues of our time, but when it comes to vaccines and GMOs, the opinion seems split down the middle, with some people hurling insults at those who take the other side, just as intolerant of a different view as the leftists we all love to malign. I’ve challenged the foolish (in my opinion) and long-since debunked notion that vaccines cause autism and people here start cursing at me–not that I care one way or the other about being cursed at or harmless down votes, but it’s disappointing that such sharp people can’t do any better to counter a well-supported (scientifically) position than to yell and curse. The science backing the efficacy of vaccines and the safety of GMOs is hundreds, maybe thousands of times more prolific than the “science” claiming they’re harmful, but, like religious extremists, no amount of disproof will sway their opinion–or rather their certainty–that they’re right. Same with me, mind you, no matter how many down votes or curses.

wishes
wishes
  Bob P
June 4, 2019 2:42 pm

the ‘safety’ of GMO’s?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Bob P
June 4, 2019 3:22 pm

I have concerns about vaccinations for non-life threatening diseases like measles. The flu shots are also iffy and giving many vaccines in one day to small children is asking for trouble. I believe most stringently in vaccines for diseases like rabies, small pox. polio, etc. because those diseases are so deadly and the risks of vaccination are not nearly as deadly as getting the disease. Rabies is a hideous way to die…

Here is a list of some of the problems that vaccines can cause…
VACCINATIONS: KNOW THE RISKS
Like the first vaccine for smallpox, 25 every vaccine licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and recommended by Centers for Disease Control (CDC) officials and medical trade associations carries a risk for serious complications, such as brain inflammation, which can lead to chronic brain and immune system damage or death. 26 27 28 29 30

There is a wide spectrum of vaccine complications, which have been identified and acknowledged in the medical literature and by the Institute of Medicine (IOM), National Academy of Sciences, including: 31

Brain Inflammation/Acute Encephalopathy
Chronic Nervous System Dysfunction
Anaphylaxis
Febrile Seizures
Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS)
Brachial Neuritis;
Acute and Chronic Arthritis
Thrombocytopenia
Smallpox, polio, measles and varicella zoster vaccine strain infection
Death (smallpox, polio and measles vaccine)
Shock and “unusual shock-like state”
Protracted, inconsolable crying
Syncope
Deltoid Bursitis
Individual Susceptibility to Vaccine Reactions

In 2012, the IOM published a report, Adverse Effects of Vaccines: Evidence and Causality, 32 and acknowledged there are genetic, biological and environmental high risk factors not yet identified that can increase “individual susceptibility” to vaccine reactions but most of the time doctors cannot predict who is at risk:

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 3:50 pm

Measles can and does kill. Around 35,000 Americans would not be alive today if not for the measles vaccine. To claim it is non-life threatening is not correct. As with all disease, it comes down to mortality rates. To say it is non-life threatening is clearly trying to support a pre-established narrative by trying to say measles does not kill. But it indeed does. And that is the fact of it.

1 in 10,000 or 0.01% of measles cases are fatal.

3 to 3.5 in 10,000 or 0.03–0.035% of measles cases result in seizure.

1 in 20,000 or 0.005% of measles cases result in measles encephalitis.

1 in 80,000 or 0.00125% of cases result in permanent disability from measles encephalitis.

7 in 1,000 or 0.7% of cases are hospitalized.

6 to 22 in 1,000,000 or 0.0006–0.0022% of cases result in subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE).

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 4:29 pm

Ya, the CDC doesn’t doctor their numbers, right. If you have a good immune system, measles won’t kill you.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  ILuvCO2
June 4, 2019 4:40 pm

So you are saying I am right – measles kills. It kills a certain percentage of all that get it. End of story. If you have better numbers post them. Or shut the hell up. Your unsubstantiated claims mean nothing. I can back mine up with at least something.

anonsortof
anonsortof
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 5:32 pm

If measles are going to give you a problem because you have a weak immune system, what do you think the vaccine is going to do?

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  anonsortof
June 4, 2019 7:16 pm

exactly

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 6:14 pm

I believe Pooh’s numbers and as he points out, they are likely as accurate as they could possibly be given the appalling state of the US medical system. Having said that, the numbers are so small as to be insignificant – except of course to the poor souls who get whacked by contracting measles. So the real question is do we inoculate 350 million people who won’t die so we can save a few thousand people who might die? Wouldn’t it be better to inoculate the ones who have weak immune systems and leave the rest of us to have a few weeks off from school with some spots on our bodies?

Well, of course the answer is we have to inoculate the 350 million because that is where we make our big bucks. The zog does not care about a few thousand poor souls who die from measles. They care about the billions of dollars that they can steal from a society which is not their own. So they send Nancy Pelosi to washington to pass a law that says that your kids have to be inoculated so they can make a shit pot full of money. Simple really.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 4, 2019 9:54 pm

Suck away you loathesome blight.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 6:30 pm

Yes, you are backing up your stuff with something. It is too bad it isn’t worth the cost of the ink.

gammer
gammer
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 6:42 pm

the mortality rate for measles in the 1st world is near zero, has been for decades prior to the vaccine. I had it as a kid at a measles party, no different than chicken pox. I have lifetime immunity, ZERO vaccine users have this. They also become the disease vectors, spreading worse diseases to their unprotected siblings, a disease which is much harsher than the wild one. Smae with nearly every vaccine out there, all are contaminated, look at the vaccine insert to see the non-safety standards being followed…

As for Autism, get a copy of “How to End the Autism Eopidemic, which places the blame on Aluminum. The french FDA agrees with this and has done a remarkable job on the science finding that up to 30% of the population has an issues with aluminum vaccines.

Do your own dilligence, no one is doing it for you. There is a pack of idiots and liars on all sides, GO to Brighteon dot com and watch Dr. Plotkin (the king of vaccination) deposed admitting that there is no testing performed to decide for or against anything on vaccines. He admits to testing on orphans and mentally disabled, wrote a paper that said they are the least of people in society, he admits to aborted fetus in vaccines, A modern Dr Mengele if there ever is one.

So the world vaccine expert says that there is no scientific basis for saying vaccines cause or dont cause anything, anyone making any statements either way without the science is a fraud. And so is his opinion!

Llpoh
Llpoh
  gammer
June 5, 2019 3:33 am

Near zero ain’t zero.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 10:16 pm

Personally, if your genes or your lifestyle make you susceptible to a disease with a mortality less than 5%, I’d encourage Nature to run it’s course. Fuck off and die. Then nobody is left to spread their vulnerability. Pick your own % point. It’s your choice, not mine.

I’d insist on it if the alternative were I had no choice about whether I or my children were required to have the vaccine to be permitted to participate in a society my taxes support. That’d be a multiple clip discussion.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  ILuvCO2
June 4, 2019 7:29 pm

Of course it kills a few. Oh fucking well. Of course you are a Nazi that supports killing innocent folks for the support of “science”. KIDDING !!!! I don’t want to be called a cunt or anything! I don’t want to get butthurt, besides, I much rather prefer cunts to butts.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  ILuvCO2
June 4, 2019 8:41 pm

LOL!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  ILuvCO2
June 5, 2019 9:08 am

Go for the ‘taint’; get both.

M G
M G
  ILuvCO2
June 4, 2019 9:53 pm

Fwiw… my son was born in a military hospital so he got his MMR shot at birth (as well as circumcision, sorry… it was what people did). But, after that? he had to wait until 4th grade for the mandatory shots.

His immune system is a good one, fed by unpasteurized milk and fermented foods. And prayer.

bigfoot
bigfoot
  Bob P
June 4, 2019 5:23 pm

Tell me how mercury in vaccines helps anybody? How come so many parents see their kids develop serious effects right after being vaccinated? Why is it that big pharma and its comrades in Congress have made it by law almost impossible to sue vaccine manufacturers?

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Bob P
June 5, 2019 4:40 am

The studies showing rats getting tumors after ingesting GMOs is pretty convincing. And no, those studies were not debunked, as the MSM would have you believe.
The fact that Monsanto is being found guilty of causing cancer with glysophate pesticides by juries is pretty convincing, too, after years of people warning against it for years.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
June 4, 2019 2:26 pm

Take a cut out of Big Pharma profits and you pay the price with hit pieces like this. It is a business, not a fucking non-profit. And you don’t have to buy his products. I’ve implemented many of his (or his ghost-writers, who cares, he reviews the writing) suggestions over the years and have found them to be beneficial. Is he an asshole? Maybe. Is he a capitalist? Sure. There are so many statements in this article that are patently false. If Pharma drugs were put to that scrutiny, many would be out of business. But they aren’t because they are in collusion with the corrupt government. This piece reeks of a prelude to silencing him and his first amendment rights, just like is being done everywhere these days.

M G
M G
  ILuvCO2
June 4, 2019 2:49 pm

And here we have the “no nip” rule too.

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And mine are YUGE.

and the tube on my neck drains CSF into my heart.

Last time I visited my neurosurgeon at the Neuroscience Institute in North OKC he called me his walking, talking miracle. He said most of his return patients come into see him in a wheelchair, drooling. I told him I noticed them in the waiting room.

I think it is Dr. Mercola’s advice.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  M G
June 4, 2019 2:58 pm

OMG please. I am eating here. EC, where do you find these disgusting photos of that old lady.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Hollywood Rob
June 4, 2019 3:49 pm

You are crossing a line, idiot. I will not tolerate you abusing Maggie. You are a worthless hack, you have nothing to say and you can’t even say that with any eloquence. You poor sorry excuse for a writer. Go back to Africa.

Tim
Tim
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 5:07 pm

Are Maggie, MG, and Mygirl…maybe all the same person?

TS
TS
  Tim
June 4, 2019 5:23 pm

Kinda late to that party, Tim.

Tim
Tim
  TS
June 4, 2019 7:04 pm

@TS – Well, yes. To be honest, I don’t “read” as much at TBP as I used to. Mostly just scan headlines and scan who is leaving the comments. I’ve got my favorites contributors that I try and keep up with, but beyond that, I have nothing to add to the conversation.

It’s just that I was going through the comments from today’s posts, and it appears that Maggie is having conversations with herself, as different selves. I knew there was some kerfuffle a while back, and Maggie stopped using “Maggie” as her moniker. But is she really having online conversations with herself?

M G
M G
  Tim
June 4, 2019 9:57 pm

Another MORAN for the firestarter.

M G
M G
  M G
June 6, 2019 10:58 pm

But, NOT the Official Moran.

~L
~L
  TS
June 4, 2019 7:14 pm

true, TS, but ‘wood is still entertaining that fiesta, probably amid mind altering substances that trigger wild imagination about alter egos and confusing identities.

A line forms at the airline check in desk. A self important dickhead cuts in, and demands immediate boarding.
The Delta counter girl says “you’ll have to get in line, sir.”
“DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?” he boastfully warns.
She gets on the intercom, and says “Attn. Passengers, we have a lost soul here who does not know his name. Can anyone identify him?”
He squints at her with venom and says ‘Fuck You!’
She says “Um, yeah, you’re gonna have to get in line for that too, sir.”

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Tim
June 4, 2019 5:49 pm

I wonder if T4C, TS and Tim are the same person, they start with the same letter.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 6:05 pm

Hahaha

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 7:38 pm

Oohh, good question, EC.

TS
TS
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 10:25 pm

Ya got me… I’m a transgender German Shepard with oedipal issues and multiple personalities that flare up when I hear a car go by. I am in the depths of despair because the last time I bit a tire, it threw me around and broke my neck. Now I am paralyzed from the vagina down and my only solace is to exhibit bizarre and increasingly incoherent behaviors, such as commenting with my multiple personalities. The only reason I know it is actually me doing all these alter-TS comments is because my owner – bless his heart – has recorded me in a vain effort to confront my dire situation.
But fuck him; I just bit his dick off and called it a day.

M G
M G
  TS
June 5, 2019 12:21 am

If only the loathesome blight of the site had teeth, he might bite his off too.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Tim
June 4, 2019 8:42 pm

yes

M G
M G
  Tim
June 4, 2019 9:56 pm

what a fucking idiot…

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 6:00 pm

I am not abusing maggie. I am abusing EC.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Hollywood Rob
June 4, 2019 6:36 pm

Is it about the Ojai bike trip with your boyfriend and parrot? Because I said it was a poor knock off of the Bunny O’Hare movie? I thought you were over all that, instead you went all stewy waiting for an idea to come. You are slow as a starfish. See you in a couple of years when you come up with a clever zinger.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 6:39 pm

?

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 4, 2019 9:58 pm

actually, according to Christian doctrine, sucking your own dick constantly is abusing yourself.

Just sayin’

M G
M G
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 9:56 pm

Thank you. Esprit de Corps means a lot to me. He’s a fucking asshole, no matter WHO he is related to here.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 4, 2019 9:55 pm

Suck, suck, suck away, faggot.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 12:22 am

Don’t miss the varicose veins from all the flying hours, faggot.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  M G
June 5, 2019 5:51 pm

You write like a 15 year old boy. I would lay money on you being a 15 year old boy. Your fixation with penis’ and assholes is indicative of the underdeveloped brain. Of course, it is possible that your are in the later stages of dementia and while I would take pity on you if that were the case, you have listed dozens of maladies but none which would be considered dementia.

Please let me know if you indeed do have late stage dementia and I will gladly reframe from taking the piss out of you on a daily basis. If you don’t exhibit any other signs of late stage dementia or you can’t produce a doctors note indicating your current condition then I will continue on with the assumption that you are a 15 year old asshole who is getting paid to troll this blog.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 9:05 pm

refrain

Knob, are you trolling Maggie now that Admin told you she isn’t me?

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 6, 2019 11:50 am

I thought you said you could stop. Faggot.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  M G
June 4, 2019 7:37 pm

I wish my boobs were that big. I wish they were real, too! Nice bod, MG

M G
M G
  Mary Christine
June 4, 2019 9:59 pm

I just may post my 25th anniversary photo in my wedding dress one day soon. I could get it on, but the bodice wouldn’t quite close.

Breastfeeding filled my boobs to max capacity. Just sayin’

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  M G
June 4, 2019 10:06 pm

OMFG EC could you please stop this disgusting shit. How could you possibly inflict such shit on the poor people of TBP. You are truly a horrifying communist troll.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 12:18 am

Here’s the blight of the site, still sucking his own penis long into the night.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  M G
June 5, 2019 8:00 am

See EC, this is what I mean by poor writing. By having maggie degrade into sucking penis statements you have damaged her character. Perhaps you think that you are writing strong females like Captain Marvel, but what you actually do is create an unlikable facade that does not fit on the superstructure that was previously created. Your character has become unstable and untrustworthy so the reader can not follow your story.

Now I realize that your contention that you were creating characters for practice may not in fact be your actual motivation. Maybe you really are just one more purple haired harpy screaming in the crowd and perhaps you are hoping to drive more people away from TBP with your foul mouthed offerings. That certainly is possible. If that is the case then I would like to thank you for restricting your efforts to posts that you have created. That way we can all enjoy the shit flinging along with you and we can all understand that you don’t take your characters seriously but present them for the entertainment of the crowd.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 8:08 am

You. Just. Can’t. Stop.

Faggot.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  M G
June 5, 2019 8:27 am

Doing ding ding.

LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!

We have another shitfest folks.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Donkey Balls
June 5, 2019 9:36 am

It’s amazing what an article on health will actually bring out in people.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  M G
June 5, 2019 5:52 pm

Of course I can.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 6, 2019 11:51 am

Then why have you persisted?

Administrator
Administrator
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 8:27 am

Hollywood Rob

I can assure you that MG and EC are not the same person. Your assumptions are false.

M G
M G
  Administrator
June 5, 2019 9:06 am

I find his moronic assessment of his own prowess profound, in a moribund sort of way.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Administrator
June 5, 2019 9:29 am

Hollywood Slob, this is the second time Admin has corrected you. If you continue with this theme, I can only assume you don’t believe him. If you think LLPOH goes apeshit when called a liar, you haven’t seen nothing yet.

M G
M G
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 9:36 am

Why warn him? I suggest he flat out call JQ’s bluff.

Like Finnegan’s Wake did longagofaraway…

Lager
Lager
  Administrator
June 5, 2019 9:30 am

That clarification from you was great. Ease his mind. Hopefully.

Also liked the warning shot across the bow of one, having used alternate moniker(s) to build a false # of fictitious negatives directed at Loop. IP addresses seen.

I’m trying to get consistent with posting under the same tag each comment.
Damn the down thumb torpedos…Full speed ahead.

Also hoping to send some drachmas your way soon, to help nudge the red line higher
on the funding meter.
We are under the half way mark of 20k, with June’s end a mere 25 days away.

Kinda why M G’s push was notable, trying to help the cause.
Yoji is by far, your most consistent fundraiser advocate.

M G
M G
  Lager
June 5, 2019 9:38 am

Hey… I tried to sell a few of Mercola’s books via the Walmart link…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  M G
June 5, 2019 10:06 am

Read it again, fren. I noted that.
Just didn’t specify the book suggestion via Wally world as a source benefitting Admin.

M G
M G
  Anonymous
June 5, 2019 10:32 am

I Knew what you meant, but there are some really stupod and loathesome morans who cannot read, write or wipe themselves.

Big, Goat Cheesy Grins.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  M G
June 5, 2019 11:10 am

Even though you knew he was a fraud. I am sure that we can all get behind your for that.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 11:30 am

Faggot.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  Administrator
June 5, 2019 11:09 am

It is not maggie that we are concerned about. You pointed out that MyGirl had multiple personalities and we all know the EC has many different names. Maggie as well has changed names over and over again. All the while, Stucky is still Stucky. Doug is still Uncola. And you are still Jim, and I am still Hollywood Rob.

Who do you believe?

Administrator
Administrator
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 11:24 am

You can change your alias, but the IP address stays the same. Uncola uses different aliases. Stuck used to be StuckinNJ.

EC and Maggie aren’t the same person. That is all I wanted you to know.

BL
BL
  Administrator
June 5, 2019 11:34 am

HR- I personally post under the names Master Bates, Heywood Jablowme, Tits McGee, Ben Dover, Beaster Bunny etc. , ect. and about 15 more aliases. What’s your point?

M G
M G
  BL
June 5, 2019 11:42 am

Howdy…

I don’t post under other aliases much now. And the Doppling thing ceased to be funny to me.

But, seriously, Bea Attitude… a loathesome blight calling himself Hollywood complaining about people using false names?

Seriously? LOL…

How’s that Moonshine in Kentucky? My cousins are in Wickliffe.

BL
BL
  M G
June 5, 2019 11:53 am

MaGoo- Any alcoholic beverage that comes out of KY is top notch. Seriously, my fam only uses moonshine for medicinal purposes but my old pap consumed it regularly with Welch’s grape juice.

Regarding HR, if he wants to rag about posting under an alias, he should have come after me cuz I got a million of them.

M G
M G
  BL
June 5, 2019 12:18 pm

Trust me… I KNOW.

The best solvent for whole plant distillation is Pure Grain Alcohol, in my opinion. I’ve been working on a pure steam distillation process, but that is a bit more time-consuming than I care to commit to. I just need a few oils for the dogs and a few aches and pains the Grooch has developed from living with me and having to do all the real work.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  BL
June 5, 2019 12:28 pm

Damn noobs couldn’t find their ass with two hands and a map.

BL
BL
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 1:08 pm

EC- I need help with a Mexican food item?? It is made on a griddle and it is not a tortilla, do you know? I have a machine to make them but forgot what it is.

We cook pancakes in it but it has a specific purpose for some food you roll in a ball and squish the griddle together to cook.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  BL
June 5, 2019 1:59 pm

They sell corn tortilla presses at the Mexican food market but they only press the corn masa into shape. Are you sure it is not a flatbread or flour tortilla maker?

BL
BL
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 2:36 pm

El-Maybe it is some contraption used for South American cuisine, I’m going to find the damn book that came with it and get back to you. Definitely not for corn or flour tortillas. Thanks!

BL
BL
  BL
June 5, 2019 2:56 pm

EC- UPDATE: It is to make Arepas, are you familiar? South Americans/ mostly Colombians and Venezuelans eat them.
Never had one and have no clue how to make them. The Mullatta is Salvy so she may know?

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  BL
June 5, 2019 7:04 pm

This pic makes them look like common everyday pupusas (poo poo sahs).

Venezuelan Arepas

M G
M G
  Administrator
June 6, 2019 11:00 pm

He seems to be a MORAN, but NOT the official TBP Moran. 😀

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 11:31 am

Go for it… I think you should pursue the other idiotic lines of thought you entertain here while self-felating.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 5, 2019 10:33 am
Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Mary Christine
June 4, 2019 11:56 pm

MC, I was joking with M G that I had been on that beach. Later, I had this dream that I was there. It was a dreamlike dream of the wild gazongas. I wanted to go back.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  M G
June 4, 2019 8:25 pm

Oh those Swinging Utters (and shit flinging monkeys)

M G
M G
  ILuvCO2
June 4, 2019 10:00 pm

You are funny. No wonder the farmer seems to like you.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  M G
June 4, 2019 10:18 pm

I wonder if it would hurt to tackle you…

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Diogenes’ Dung
June 5, 2019 12:29 pm

No, cause you are a pudgy dude, it would be like being tackled by the Pillsbury doughboy.

M G
M G
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 1:18 pm

Did you know that Billy Joe McCalister was probably gay?

Bobbie Gentry’s “Ode To Billie Joe”

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  M G
June 5, 2019 2:02 pm

The movie went that way. Others have guessed it was about abortion. Or it could be about a breakup.

M G
M G
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 3:14 pm

It was interesting, reading her comments at the link. Do you think Stucky is worried about commenting here?

Perhaps… gasp? WARNED?

M G
M G
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 3:17 pm

From my link above the video…

As Gentry told Fred Bronson, “The song is sort of a study in unconscious cruelty. But everybody seems more concerned with what was thrown off the bridge than they are with the thoughtlessness of the people expressed in the song. What was thrown off the bridge really isn’t that important.

“Everybody has a different guess about what was thrown off the bridge—flowers, a ring, even a baby. Anyone who hears the song can think what they want, but the real message of the song, if there must be a message, revolves around the nonchalant way the family talks about the suicide. They sit there eating their peas and apple pie and talking, without even realizing that Billie Joe’s girlfriend is sitting at the table, a member of the family.”

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  M G
June 5, 2019 9:12 pm

We got that from the song, M G. Then we wanted to know what happened between those two and why the girl is so stoic. Momma says the girl looked just like her daughter.

M G
M G
  Mistico (EC)
June 6, 2019 11:53 am

Oddly enough… I never got that from the song. I thought they were just childhood friends….kind of like the movie “Stand By Me”.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 7:41 pm

Hey, stooge.

I was talking to a lady who know something. You don’t.

M G
M G
  Diogenes’ Dung
June 6, 2019 11:03 pm

Did she know it or did she think she know it?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  M G
June 7, 2019 2:26 pm

Not fair. Trick question.

Nobody ever convinced a woman she didn’t know what she thought she knew.

M G
M G
June 4, 2019 2:35 pm

I hope everyone will order this book from Walmart.com, give the 4% to Admin for the site and and decide for yourself if the 9 steps to effortless healing are worth all this fuss.

C’mon… buy buy buy!

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Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  M G
June 4, 2019 3:01 pm

So you know it’s a scam. You know he is a crook. You admit that you know that he is a crook. And yet you still hawk his crappy book to people that you think of as your friends. And your hook is that Admin will get 4% of the book money. This after trying to scam people into paying for your crappy raccoon pelt. God you are a truly disgusting person.

M G
M G
  Hollywood Rob
June 4, 2019 10:01 pm

Suck, suck, suck away faggot boy.

Hollywood Rob
Hollywood Rob
  M G
June 5, 2019 8:04 am

Such eloquence. Perhaps you actually are a disgusting old biddy from a shithole of a place in flyover country. But nah… no way. How do you get your grandma to pose for those awful pictures and does she actually take her teeth out or leave them in?

It is sad to watch our dreams die.

Steve
Steve
June 4, 2019 3:07 pm

Nothing new under the sun. There’s always some remarkable new potion or lifestyle that will allow you to live disease free forever. The genes you were born with are at least 60% responsible for your health. Common sense ( which is very uncommon these days) will cover the rest of it. Eat good food, do physical work, have a positive attitude is the best medicine and it’s all free.

Llpoh
Llpoh
June 4, 2019 3:24 pm

Fermenting? I might ferment a bit. Depending on who is reading this. I might, maybe, ferment some sugar. I might maybe have this copper jigger thingamabob that does something magical to that fermented sugar water. I say a few magic words, add some nice oak, and in a few months I might get this honey colored liquid that looks and smells and tastes wonderful.

Of course, if revenooeres arereading this, I do none of that in reality.

Lager
Lager
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 3:43 pm

Nectar of a different sort. The sippin’ kind. In a short glass, on a cool, peaceful evening outdoors, either alone or with good friend or 2, perhaps with a fine, rolled, dry leaf product to compliment it, relaxing in a comfortable spot.
Yeah. I could appreciate those simple pleasures.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 4:32 pm

http://www.milehidistilling.com

For when things get sketchy of course… Hmmm, come to think of it, things are sketchy now.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  grace country pastor
June 4, 2019 4:46 pm

I might have both a pot and a reflux still. Or might not, too, Mr. G-man.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 6:40 pm

I ain’t tellin… ?

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 7:29 pm

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BL
BL
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 7:46 pm

We make hooch in mass quantity here in Ky, we don’t mess with little bitty stills like that.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  BL
June 4, 2019 8:18 pm

Hey, you work with what you got….

M G
M G
  BL
June 5, 2019 7:35 am

You live where the moon comes over the mountain in gallon jugs, eh?

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 10:28 pm

afore you kin joinum, ya gotta drinkum.

M G
M G
  Mygirl...maybe
June 6, 2019 11:08 pm

I don’t know if you “realize” it, but my family are MST3K fanatics, or we were for a few years. Not so much now but it was a fun family thing for a long time. We went to a few “live” shows after the show went off the air… the comedy team is absolutely wonderful.

Anyway, there are a pair of robots in the show, fondly called Botz.

This little clip is funny…

This one too.

Just don’t use the word “botz” around here. It’s taboo.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 7:40 pm

I second that idea and on second thought, revs, me neither.

JLS
JLS
June 4, 2019 4:22 pm

I had thought that most visitors here were intelligent, open-minded, cultured and had integrity. Today I have to rethink about that assumption.

I never follow anyone. I use my brain, knowledge and experience to live my life.

Trust (anyone) is good. Verify is better, much better.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  JLS
June 4, 2019 4:27 pm

We were. Then you arrived.

JLS
JLS
  Llpoh
June 4, 2019 8:30 pm

You are the asshole. Fuck yourself.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  JLS
June 5, 2019 6:42 am

You whine about the posters. Here is an idea, don’t like the content, change the channel.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  JLS
June 4, 2019 4:49 pm

.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  JLS
June 4, 2019 4:49 pm

You could have quoted Uncle Ronnie – Trust but Verify. I guess you aint that smart.

JLS
JLS
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 8:34 pm

Asshole, I translated from German expressions. Go to a nearby elementary school and learn some common sense and international aspects.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  JLS
June 4, 2019 10:31 pm

Where do I send my check to the JLS Foundation?

I hear it’ll get me U.S. State Department approval for weapons of mass urination to help remove millions of mascara smears.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  JLS
June 5, 2019 12:33 pm

If I need any translation, I see Professor Stucky. He knows a thing or two about Cherman.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 4, 2019 5:01 pm

Guess who these two represent.
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D.B. Cooper

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Anonymous
June 4, 2019 5:06 pm

Your mom and dad?

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 5:12 pm

Come on EC don’t deny it. You know you’re the little one. Who’s the big one? Come on, you know who it is.

You have to admit it’s funny. Even the king of wit has to admit when someone else made a funny.

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Donkey Balls
June 4, 2019 5:56 pm

Donkey, the day HF told me I was on a roll was actually a bad day. I was being cruel to release some stress. Poorly written comments are TBP’s gift to me, they allow me to parody them. I like most folks here, HR is about to fall off the good guy list.

Donkey Balls
Donkey Balls
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 5:59 pm

Who in their, right mind, would take HF off the good guy list? Oops, I thought you were talking about HSF.

nkit
nkit
  Donkey Balls
June 4, 2019 6:20 pm

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  nkit
June 4, 2019 6:41 pm

There he is!
Perfect timing.
Aye, Chihuahua!
El dice: “No me jodan!”

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  nkit
June 4, 2019 7:18 pm

EC….Mystico…Mascara….is that you?

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Mygirl...maybe
June 4, 2019 10:00 pm

Nah, I hardly ever get angry. The stress I was talking about was granny had some serious back pain and once her kids (my in laws) got here, they decided to call the ambulance. I waited until they got here because she wanted them to be here. So I bided my time here, slicing and dicing some poor slobs who didn’t deserve it. I shall have to punish myself with a noodle disciplina.

200, I win!

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 10:32 pm

Your Id and Ego

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 4, 2019 5:06 pm

Bwahaha
Well played.

Royal Rife
Royal Rife
June 4, 2019 5:44 pm

You’re a freaking moron on multiple levels

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  Royal Rife
June 4, 2019 5:51 pm

Anon is a friendly, I knew he was kidding.

Newbie
Newbie
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 5:58 pm

How can you tell? And who is HF?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 4, 2019 6:54 pm

Of course he za friendly.
Humor, at all costs.
Dubbed a class clown by a BDR who has no tolerance anymore.
Probably not a fan of F.F.
Never comments there.
But, why? Don’t know.
We wuz frenz once, or so thought, until anudder dubbed larger a disciple of the teacher, chastising for brown nosing.
Won’t do it anymore. Done.
Read & listen, but no longer follow. Respect, but to hell with homage. Respect’s a 2 way street.

Mygirl...maybe
Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
June 4, 2019 8:23 pm
Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  Anonymous
June 4, 2019 9:04 pm
M G
M G
  Anonymous
June 5, 2019 6:23 am

I hearz ya

I hearz crickets

gammer
gammer
June 4, 2019 6:18 pm

Caveat Emptor – to all these people on the leading edge of science and all things good for you….there are going to be lots of failures. I have not figured the percentage but it is going to be 20-50% range for sure. This is the same for most scientific endeavors. The other side of the coin is the western medicine which gathers millions $$ up in data and then writes a conclusion that disagrees completely with the data because the data shows that their theory is wrong! (Framingham Study Anyone). So Do not trust anyone with your health. Want to know more than most, take a look at Dr. Jason Fung’s “The Aetiology of Obesity” series on Utube. This is probably all that most of us will EVER need. Completely debunks pretty much all of the diet science of the last 50 years using the science of 100 to 1000 years ago! Jason deserves a Nobel Prize for this, as to Mercola, he has already received hi reward. But I appreciate some of the good things he brings to the fold.

JLS
JLS
  gammer
June 4, 2019 8:45 pm

Jason Fung is a Chinese Canadian. He is likely influenced by traditional Chinese medicine.

I’m from China. I personally have benefited a lot from traditional Chinese medicine AND Dr. Mercola.

Coworkers told me that I look much younger than I am.

FDA and USDA are public funded lobbyists for big food and big pharmas.

Wake up, sheeples!

M G
M G
  JLS
June 4, 2019 10:06 pm

I’ve really enjoyed this.

I’ve also enjoyed getting healthy after almost dying from serious digestive tract malfunction.

M G
M G
June 4, 2019 9:07 pm

Wow! Just in from getting animals back into shelters and boy! oh boy!

I don’t have time to read and reply here… I’m working on the World Order piece. I’d hoped for a D-Day finish but with all the additional rain here (hint… crop insurance costs will be folded right on into that Federal deficit with nary a peep from Congress. Not only do they have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it… they never bother to find out what’s in it.)

I still believe the 9 steps are good ones. I really do.

I also imagine Dr. Mercola has benefitted grandly from scheme. Just as Gary Young benefitted from all the research and glamour of YoungLiving Oils. But, there are several people who visited his clinic outside the US after the FDA shut him down for “treating cancer without a license” or some BS like that who claimed his therapy cured their cancer.

I do not have skin in either game. I have a coonskin in another game which is a bit more important to me than this right now.

So, I hope to be able to post something soon about another book I’m reading but, if not? I’ll check back tomorrow and see if this got to 500! Stucky, you are the man and you and yours are always welcome pondside.

Just don’t say nothing bad about CORN or Soybeans around here.

Diogenes’ Dung
Diogenes’ Dung
June 4, 2019 9:41 pm

““Mercola attacks proven public health measures — vaccination and fluoridation —”

I’m staunchly anti-fluoridation because it calcifies endocrine glands.

Vaccinations at a very early age over short intervals (now recommended) is dangerous to the developing infant. Vaccinations should be a choice, and not before a child is walking.

I know of no double-blind studies published on the long-term effects of fluoridation. I’ve heard there are none. Just like there haven’t been any for Monsanto’s microbe-destroying, cancer-causing herbicides now endemic to our environment.

Not having evidence of harm for very profitable ‘health risks’ seems to be OK for only one side of your argument.

Pharma Boss
Pharma Boss
June 4, 2019 9:50 pm

Who wrote this for you, you sellout, piece of shit whore? You’re too freaking stupid for this level of grammar. Look’s like it was written by Big Pharma PR. FU a-hole.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
June 5, 2019 3:39 am

Regardless of articles like this, I like Dr. Mercola’s advice.

Everyone out there with a website, especially making suggestions on natural medicine, sell their own products. It’s a marketing, money-making technique. It’s no different than the pharmaceutical industry making commercials trying to sell their own products.

There are even people out there trying to say Mercola is not a real doctor. I’ve got news for you, he would been arrested a long time ago for practicing medicine without a license if he wasn’t a real doctor because he still treats patients, and really, because they’re gunning for him for any little thing.

Aside from that, I believe Mercola’s advice is sound. I’ve been researching natural medicine for over 15 years, and Mercola is one of the people I read, and I’ve found no fault with him . His information agrees with others I’ve read and the many herbal/natural medicine/Chinese medicine books I’ve read.

And I’m going to hit you for using Quackwatch, which is full of shills being paid by Big Pharma. You should know better. Follow the money.

Bubbah
Bubbah
June 5, 2019 6:31 am

I’ve read Mercola’s stuff for years, and as many have pointed out he is hit and miss. But the Medical recc’s have been the same for years, changing all the time. Dr. M’s information on Intermittent Fasting was ahead of its time and its well established now with its health benefits. He also has alot of good information on exercising, HIT training and all the rest that now is shown to have the most benefits. Alot of this stuff HITs/I.F relates to our bodies based more on hunter gatherer societies. Our ancestors didn’t eat for long stretches like we did, so our physiology prefers having long fasts. It turns on anti-aging gene, as well as the HIT actually working our fast twitch muscle fibers which helps release HGH.

I don’t pay attention to his nutritional advice much, and I quit reading his site a couple years ago. Like alot of Medical folks the info they provide is a mixed bag, and it gets more mixed the more they want to sell you supplements. But eating real food from the dirt, moving around, and trying to eat you calories within an 8-9hour window are all basic things that can increase health. But ultimately, you can still get unlucky no matter how healthy you try to be, and time wins in the end so enjoy the ride.

Lulu
Lulu
June 5, 2019 12:35 pm

Ebola is highly contagious.

BL
BL
June 5, 2019 1:35 pm

Stucky- This thread is a train wreck of epic proportion. Interesting to watch but what does it say about this community? 🙂

Biggest surprise: GCP bartending

Mil Mascaras (EC)
Mil Mascaras (EC)
  BL
June 5, 2019 2:04 pm

Least surprising moment: Hollywood Rob is kookoo for cocoa puffs.

BL
BL
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 3:19 pm

EC-I didn’t know what a “Dirty Ho” cocktail was til GCP gave out the recipe. Church is starting to look more interesting El. (The Church of the Perpetually Snockered) or (Our Lady of the Evening Church).

The devil is “WINNING”.

M G
M G
  BL
June 5, 2019 5:59 pm

And if refried bean boy won’t do so, Bea Attitude, will you?

Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions

BL
BL
  M G
June 5, 2019 9:16 pm

Mission complete MaGoo. 🙂

M G
M G
  BL
June 6, 2019 11:57 am

I appreciate that… I’d made a selection when I typed it that seemed to “lock” it…

While many folks may not realize it, that little book had an enormous impact on some mathematical minds of its day, including Einstein.

I’m looking forward to seeing what kind of ideas the kids come up with about space and time. I’ve got a big telescope and no lights for miles.

Mistico (EC)
Mistico (EC)
  BL
June 5, 2019 9:17 pm
Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  BL
June 5, 2019 11:24 pm

That’s because GCP knows that even Jesus drank alcohol and that not drinking is man-made law, not a law from the Bible. It says moderation not abstain. Though there were some sects that didn’t drink, such as Nazarites, but it wasn’t everybody. (Jesus was from Nazareth, not a Nazarite or Nazarene.)

M G
M G
  Vixen Vic
June 6, 2019 11:58 am

And, besides, his mother asked him for the wine. I like that His first miracle was for Momma.

M G
M G
  M G
June 6, 2019 11:15 pm

I’m surprised GCP didn’t jump in here. Preachers usually like to argue the point of the “first miracle.”

I had one die hard Baptist preacher declare the wine was really just fruit juice. He made fruit juice from water.

Right, preacher man… give me a packet of Koolaid and I can make fruit juice from water. The Man made WINE… and he probably drank some of it.

M G
M G
  Mil Mascaras (EC)
June 5, 2019 5:58 pm

Would you do an old red rope a favor and see if you can reply to my comments on my own post Flatland? Yes, I know that seems a bit POINTLANDish… if you jump to the last ten minutes of the video, you will get that…

I somehow locked the comments and don’t know if I managed to unlock them.

Haha… the brain surgery excuse is a damn good one. It really is.

Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions

M G
M G
  M G
June 6, 2019 11:59 am

LOL… I guess NOT.

KeyserSusie
KeyserSusie
June 6, 2019 10:27 am

I will put this up here as it is remotely relevant and is an overlooked health concern imo.

TBP posted this some time ago.

The Countries Polluting The Oceans The Most

The world is flooded with plastic garbage.

There will be more plastic than fish in terms of weight in the world’s oceans by 2050,
the World Economic Forum warned Tuesday.

“The numbers are staggering: There are 5.25 trillion pieces of plastic debris in the ocean. Of that mass, 269,000 tons float on the surface, while some four billion plastic microfibers per square kilometer litter the deep sea.”

https://news.nationalgeographic.com…eans-plastic-sea-trash-science-marine-debris/

….

View this to see how fish larva are at risk from plastic in the oceans.
Chilling graphic photos here.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2019/05/microplastics-impact-on-fish-shown-in-pictures/

….

People eat at least 50,000 plastic particles a year, study finds

Health effects of ingestion of microplastics via food,
water and breathing still unknown.

The average person eats at least 50,000 particles of microplastic a year
and breathes in a similar quantity,
according to the first study to estimate human ingestion of plastic pollution.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/05/people-eat-at-least-50000-plastic-particles-a-year-study-finds

And here is a link on 360tuna, a fishing site that goes into comprehensive details most people are oblivious to. It is enough to make you even more paranoid that doom is certain…at least for the fishes and piscivorous eating omnivores.

https://www.360tuna.com/threads/more-plastic-than-fish-in-oceans-by-2050.54321/

M G
M G
  Stucky
June 6, 2019 11:17 pm

I believe it. I think I’ll have some now. Pure, cold spring water from almost 300 feet down, running clear and sweet.

Nectar of the gawds.

Lee Chit
Lee Chit
  Stucky
June 7, 2019 2:34 pm

I was misquoted, Stuck.

M G
M G
June 7, 2019 7:19 pm

Seriously, Stucky… I picked up another health book recommended by my nutrition specialist and I’m almost wondering if I need to ASK you for permission to read it.

What do you think I should do?

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Rajeev
Rajeev
June 11, 2019 10:27 am

(MUST READ: HOW I GOT CURED FROM MY HERPES VIRUS)

Hello, this is my testimony, I was diagnosed of Herpes in 2014 and I have tried all possible means to get cure but all to no avail, until i saw a post in a health forum about a herbal doctor from West Africa ( Dr Yare ) who prepare herbal medicine to cure all kind of diseases including Hiv virus, at first i doubted if it was real but decided to give it a try because i really needed help, when i contact this herbal doctor via his email, he prepared a herbal medicine and sent it to me , when i received this herbal medicine, he gave me step by step instructions on how to apply it, when i applied and used it as instructed, i was cured of this deadly virus Herpes within 3 week of usage I am now free from the virus, i was tested negative. he said he can also treat many disease like Cancer, HIV, Low sperm count,Erectile dysfunction, Barrenness, Hvp, Herpes, Genital Wart, Rare disease, Hepatitis, Syphilis,Diabetes, ALS, he can also help you get your ex back, Contact this great herbal doctor via his

Name: Dr. Yare
Email: [email protected]
Phone/whatsapp: +2347080105058.
youtube link
https://youtu.be/9b2fZKg4UW4
https://youtu.be/fIflwc9vilM
when you contact him, make sure you tell him that I referenced you and Good Luck……………….,,,….

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 6, 2021 6:45 pm

Who wrote this? Does he/she realize how many people receive Mercola’s Newsletter every week? Joe Mercola has a huge following, is an American Hero, and has the most valuable information to share IMHO. Nobody knows you, and after skimming your piece, it is clear to me that you do not come anywhere close to Mercola in intelligence or integrity.