By Matt Bracken
Dear Mr. Security Agent…
Federal, state, or local. You, the man or woman with the badge, the sworn LEO or FLEA and those who inhabit the many law enforcement niches in between and on all sides. This essay is directed to you, because in the end, how this turmoil about gun control turns out will depend largely upon your decisions and actions over the coming months and years.
Why is this essay titled Dear Mr. Security Agent, when it dwells mainly upon the media and coastal-dwelling urban liberals and their Utopian belief in the benefits of new gun control laws in the United States? Mr. Security Agent will protest that he is no liberal, he is ex-military, he’s a cop, he’s a fed—he’s one of the good guys! He took the same oath to defend the Constitution that you did, Buster! He doesn’t need any lectures on defending the Constitution! So why single him out in this essay?
Why? Because liberal bliss-ninnies in San Francisco and Boston are not issued flash-bang grenades, battering rams, body armor, flex-cuffs by the gross, and MP-5 submachine guns. No, the dirty end of the confiscation job will fall upon the shoulders of sworn law enforcement officers and gold-badged federal law enforcement agents. The LEOs and the FLEAs. That’s you, Mr. Security Agent.
We really don’t want a problem with you, believe me. And there is no reason for us to have a problem, because we both can read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and neither of us requires a team of black-robed mystics to translate its plain English into Newspeak for improved comprehension. You and I both understand what “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” means, without requiring five out of nine politically appointed Supremes to tell us that it does not mean what it very plainly states in black and white.
Now, as long as Mr. Security Agent remembers that he swore the same oath that millions of Americans swore, to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, he will certainly not permit himself to take part in gun confiscation raids. But if he does, well, let’s be frank: tens of millions of Americans would then consider him to be the very domestic enemy that they swore to defend the Constitution against.
But Mr. Bracken—I can hear it now—this is the United States of America! Abuses like the ones you hypothesize simply cannot happen here. Gun registration does not always lead to confiscation, much less to extermination. We are not Germany or Russia or any of those other countries you mentioned. https://www.americanpartisan.org/2019/08/so-whats-the-matter-with-universal-gun-registration/ This is the 21st Century. America is different, and it can’t happen here. You must lay your irrational fears aside and place your trust in your government. It cannot, it will not, ever turn in the dark and tyrannical direction that you imagine.
Oh, really? Google “wrong-address SWAT raids” and read any of the dozens of articles you will find. We should trust the government not to abuse us even further, once we are disarmed and helpless to resist them? Thanks, but I don’t think so.
In 2002, in Enemies Foreign and Domestic, I wrote a fictional account of future government agents waterboarding American “detainees” in a clandestine “interrogation center.” [A long excerpt can be read here: https://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/books_efad.html ] In 2013, (and now 2019), I think that we are many steps closer to that reality. Today, we already see genital groping by federal agents and at least one Texas state trooper who was caught on film. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/troopers-texas-probe-genitals-women-traffic-stops-article-1.1414668
We have recently learned, Mr. Security Agent, that your law enforcement comrades can read every email we send or receive with no need for a pesky and outdated warrant. Today, our cell phones come complete with undisclosed “back doors” for law enforcement use, allowing them even to be switched on remotely, to serve as no less than a secret police microphone in our very own pockets.
Next year there will be drones patrolling the skies above America, keeping a watchful “Gorgon Stare” (Google it) mega-eye out for our “public safety.” Please read “The Coming Drone Attack on America,” by Naomi Wolf, to understand the grim implications of this development for what remains of American freedom. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/21/coming-drone-attack-america
Facial recognition cameras are going up everywhere. Nearly all public and corporate video camera networks have their feeds directed to dozens of new law enforcement “fusion centers,” whose very existence is kept secret from the American people they were supposedly built to protect. (Google “fusion centers” as well. Discover more news that the liberal mainstream media don’t think you need to know.) Data-mining and Social Network Analysis by our “protectors” edges steadily toward the “Department of Pre-Crime” foreseen in the science fiction movie Minority Report.
Next, project a decade ahead to what may be considered routine law enforcement behavior, after millions of Americans refuse to comply with new firearms registration and confiscation laws. Action will beget reaction. SWAT raids will spur armed resistance, which will spur “death squad” reprisals by “off-duty” agents, exactly in the way I wrote in Enemies Foreign and Domestic. It is a natural, almost organic progression, once started—and it has started. Secret detention centers will proliferate like mushrooms in the night. The media will not report on them, even if screams are heard around the clock by neighbors. Particularly brave reporters who break the media silence to report on police abuses will disappear, or be found headless, as they are in Mexico today.
For that is what a modern “dirty civil war” looks like, in country after country, from continent to continent. If present trends continue, America is going to experience a very old witch’s brew on her home soil for the first time since the Civil War. This is my own very dark “vision of the future” (to quote the subtitle of Colonel Benson’s piece) if new and restrictive gun control laws are passed. [Read “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A Vision of the Future” https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/full-spectrum-operations-in-the-homeland-a-“vision”-of-the-future ]
So now we’re back to you, Mr. Security Agent, and your unique role in this high drama. Let me state this very clearly, both for you and for the liberal agenda-setting elites who might accidentally stumble upon this essay. Let there be no doubt about this. Let no one later say, “But we were just trying to improve public safety. We had no idea that all these disastrous unintended consequences would happen.”
I am telling you now that disastrous unintended consequences will happen if Congress passes new laws banning presently legal firearms. To make it very easy to remember, and in the spirit of our beloved Department of Homeland Security’s old color-coded security threat levels, let me spell out three lines of demarcation.
The Yellow Line:
The yellow warning line will be crossed with national gun registration laws, including laws forbidding private gun sales without government permission. When that law passes, millions of Americans will feel that they have been pushed directly to the edge of the abyss above the mass graves of history. Defenders of the Second Amendment know what happened in Turkey, the USSR, Germany, China, and other nations that fell under totalitarian rule: in every case a necessary preliminary step on the road to genocide was national gun registration, followed by confiscation. The Jewish survivors of the Nazi Holocaust say, “Never again!” And so do we.
The Red Line:
The red line will be crossed with the passage of laws mandating that currently owned weapons, ammunition magazines, and ammunition quantities above a certain number must be turned in to authorities or destroyed, and thereafter their simple possession will be a felony. At that point, the nation will be on a hair trigger, with a thousand flaring matches nearing a thousand primed cannon fuses aimed directly at the next Fort Sumter.
The Dead Line:
The next line requires a bit of history to explain. In some primitive Civil War POW camps, where lack of funding or logistical constraints did not allow the construction of proper fences, a knee-high continuous railing of wooden slats encircled the prison grounds. Guards with rifles were positioned at the corners and in crude towers. If a prisoner so much as stepped over the narrow plank, he was shot dead without warning, obviating the need for a real fence to contain him. Hence the term “dead line.” Cross the line and people die, right now.
And this is what liberal Utopians must understand: after passing the yellow line with national gun registration and transfer requirements, and the red line by making possession of currently legal firearms felonious, the dead line will be breached with the first SWAT raids upon citizens suspected of owning legal firearms made illegal by the new gun control laws. People will die resisting confiscation, in large numbers.
Confiscation crosses the dead line, make no mistake about it.
So this essay is really for you, Mr. Security Agent, because it won’t be elite Manhattan or Malibu liberals or Ivy League professors or politicians or columnists who will be ordered to strap on the sweat-stained body armor and enforce the new gun control laws at gunpoint. No, that grim task will fall to you.
But as long as you are an honorable agent of the people while an employee of the government, and as long as you honor your oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, then you will encounter no problems at all with gun owners. Why? Because you will refuse to take part in gun confiscation raids. Period. End of sentence, end of paragraph.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation is the leading American law enforcement agency, at least in terms of its long history and high prestige. Dear Mr. Security Agent, please consider that F.B.I. also stands for Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity. Soon, your fidelity to your solemnly sworn oath may be severely tested. It will take a lot of bravery to make your personal integrity a higher calling than following illegitimate orders, simply to maintain your steady paycheck and benefits.
On the other hand, if you no longer resemble the upstanding and honorable federal agents I have known in the past, if that whole oath-to-the-Constitution shtick was a big fat joke to you and you would accept a transfer to the old Soviet KGB or East German Stasi for a ten percent pay raise…then we are definitely going to have a problem. So that oath you swore really matters, one way or the other, and so does your personal sense of honor.
Dear Mr. Security Agent, let me spell it out. If you find yourself in the sub-basement of an annex to a secret intelligence center on the far end of town, waterboarding citizens into revealing the locations of suspected “illegal caches” of firearms, ammunition or ammunition magazines that were legally owned in 2019, then know this one simple fact: tens of millions of Americans will most surely consider you a betrayer of your sworn oath and a traitor to your country.
And so, if you find yourself silently dismounting a covert SWAT vehicle at zero-dark-thirty, dressed all in body armor, counting down to the time-coordinated explosion of battering rams and flash-bang grenades, on a raid against a sleeping household intended to result in the confiscation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition magazines that were legal to own in 2019, millions of Americans who also swore an oath to defend the Constitution will consider you their domestic enemy, and they will resist you with force of arms. Just as the soldiers of King George were resisted on another notable gun confiscation raid on April 19, 1775. It used to be called “The Shot Heard ’Round the World.”
You may consider the sentiments expressed above to be absurd, hyperbolic, dangerous, ridiculous, or simply wrong-headed. But please understand that tens of millions of Americans feel this way to their cores, and they will not be disarmed without a fight. Well-meaning but naive liberals should understand the certain-to-follow consequences of new gun control laws intended to disarm their fellow citizens in the name of “public safety.” LEOs and FLEAs should understand the dire consequences of participating in gun confiscation raids, in direct violation of their sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution, including the Second Amendment.
The unintended consequences of this misguided utopian fool’s crusade to ban guns would include a second civil war as agonizingly painful as the first one, if not more so, since there would be no front lines and no safe areas for anybody, anywhere. Every sane American wants to prevent such a calamitous outcome as a “dirty civil war” on United States soil.
But know this: those tens of millions will never be quietly disarmed and then later forced at government gunpoint onto history’s next boxcars. If boxcars and detention camps are to be in America’s future, then you, Mr. Security Agent, will have to disarm us the hard way first. Not Piers Morgan, not Michael Moore, not Rosie O’Donnell, not Dianne Feinstein, not Chuck Schumer.
You.
The above was taken from the complete Dear Mr. Security Agent, which was originally published at Western Rifle Shooters Association in 2013.
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There is general agreement that there is no voting our way out of this, but among all the articles I’m aware of, this is the unanswered question; will the lowest rung of law enforcement, the “Mr. Security Agent” follow orders or follow the constitution?
We will probably not know until the first orders are dropped; we’ll know then if they are for us or agin’ us.
Many will follow orders as they will believe that having families to feed, mortgages to pay, Pensions to Protect will all be more important to them then a few raids to confiscate guns.
Once people on both sides start dying the same ones who are just following orders will then follow the order to kill first, ask questions later.
No one should make any mistake in thinking that Mr. Security Agent will do anything but look to save his future at the expense of the Constitution and We the People
Cops today are already killing people and asking questions later. This condition is present already.
Not only are the cops attacking and killing people, they do so with impunity and glee. They know they’ll get off so no constraints happen. The bullies that wear uniforms today are of the gang banger mindset, they have the protect their own attitude and not one of them steps in to stop egregious actions. like choking or beating someone to death.
A black man was strangled to death because he asked to see a warrant. A man crawling on his belly and crying was shot to death in cold blood and the monster that shot him is walking around scot free and then you have this…the beating death of Kelly Thomas, listen to where Thomas screams and begs for his father while the thugs continue to beat him. None of the cops suffered any consequences for that hideous murder so, Mr. Bracken, you can rest assured that the po po won’t be paying much attention to any oaths.
buy more ammo while you can
Agree Nite,the word you are looking for though is BLOAT.
The “just following orders” rationale was not limited to Nuremberg. Generally speaking – and I mean no offense by this – the best and brightest are more attracted to STEM fields than law enforcement. So you naturally are dealing with folks who are more reactive than deliberative.
Easy to see where it goes.
Your very politely expressed point was well taken, but I’m far past the point at which I care whether or not I give offense. I have never yet met a cop who was particularly bright or above corruption: not one. I’m sure they exist, but… Most uniformed cops are automatons, plainclothes cops would-be bullies and Feds self-aggrandizing and arrogant order-takers. All of them, like most everyone else, will be looking out for their own best interests. Patriotism, like so many other abstract ideals, is easily discarded when there’s a pig foot and a bottle of beer on offer. If you’re not in charge of the rationing board, don’t expect much deliberation or mercy either.
My brother-in-law was one. Of course he was also J2/G2, so he was paid prior to being a cop to think critically, analyze terrain, weak points in plans, etc. Don’t make the mistake of lumping all of one group together because then we become no better than the assholes in Antifa.
I definitely agree with you, though, that most of them have deliberately become militarized by DHS. That was the entire point of DHS’s creation, whether or not they will ever admit it. The knew without a doubt that the mathematics were not in their favor when SHTF. If you took the entire federal workforce and assumed every one of them were trained and armed, they’d be lucky to have one every few square miles. Not exactly numbers in their favor.
Point well made : “Don’t make the mistake of lumping all of one group together because then we become no better than the assholes in Antifa.” You’re absolutely right. My bad.
The problem is, when the SHTF, the only way to determine “friend or foe” will be the uniform. Allowing one to think that “there are good guys out there” in uniform will get you killed or arrested.
When Vietnam fell to the communists, the first thing the South Vietnamese soldiers did was to get rid of their uniforms.
Police and other “government types” may have to go without uniforms. This makes the situation MORE dangerous for all involved.
Geneva convention?
Nuremberg was a kangaroo court. And “just following orders” is a valid rationale. Only thus kike fuckers somehow gasslighted people to believe different.
Still people with guns have a responsibility to do the moral thing and in the USA the duty to follow the constitution (which hasn’t stopped anyone yet).
Also points were deducted from this article by me for implying the holohoax was real.
This: “And “just following orders” is a valid rationale.”
Conflicts directly with this: “Still people with guns have a responsibility to do the moral thing”
Morality is not subjective. Following an immoral or unconstitutional order is either a valid rationale, in which case said violators are more equal than others, or it is an invalid rationale. Mutual exclusivity.
Perhaps, my decades serving in the military give me more insight on it than you. One can not always know if an order is lawful or moral. If there is time to reflect and enough information, you do the right thing. But that is not always possible, so following orders is often valid. It is kind of the foundation of civilization, if you think about it.
Fortunately or unfortunately, I have had more than my share. Likely not as much as you, but more than enough.
There is a law greater than that of Man. Conscription/Voluntarism status only plays a factor in those who strictly adhere to the law of Man or who are trying to make peace with atrocities they may or may not have committed. Kohlberg’s stages of moral development weren’t total bullshit. Some yes, but not entirely.
I would not want to face God with the deaths of innocents on my hands. Military or otherwise. But it is not for you or me to judge. Hence society used to line up those “simply following orders” (war crimes) in front of a concrete wall and let God sort it out.
When we had a blind rule of law, of course. And THAT is the foundation of civilization. Blind Justice.
Nuremberg WAS a “kangaroo court” run by jews. In fact, ALL of the defendants were tortured utilizing beatings, sleep deprivation, and almost all had their testicles crushed. If you care to read the “testimony” and court records, you will find that most of the claims made by the plantiffs (jews) were impossible.
An American jurist even remarked that the Nuremberg trials were “show trials” with little basis in fact.
It looks like they’re already following orders and ordering followers from the many reports in states that already have red flag laws. I don’t fear Mr. security agent following orders, what I fear the most is non-resistance from a sheeplike populace. It’s horrible to look at what Americans are already tolerating without any resistance at all. I’m afraid that if they have not revolted yet then they never will. The US governments full spectrum dominance is almost complete. I’m worried that the American people have attained peak obedience.
Once the exorbitant privilege of the reserve currency is lost, all bets are off. I wouldn’t fret over it. When (not if) they do attempt authoritarian crackdown, you can also be rest assured that Russia and China will get involved and not just on the sidelines.
The problem for China (and good for America) is that they can’t enforce air or ground superiority over anywhere but the immediate West Coast. Even if they commandeered that entire fleet of barges off Singapore, it’d only buy them perhaps all of California. That’s not really a loss but a win for the rest of America, to be honest. And anyone on the West Coast who is still there, well…their fault if they don’t see the obvious poker game being played.
Russia, however, is a bit different. They’ve played this game with us for decades now and already have the deep relationships established throughout our Hemisphere. IMHO they’d be the enemy of the Southern enemy and encourage a disunion. Can’t complain there.
People need to not do anything stupid. Let the wheels of fate turn.
I beg to differ, China has deployment areas in central america namely the Panama Canal. This is also why they are going after Venezuela. It becomes a larger staging area to attack the north/western hemisphere. Don’t let local animus determine strategic objectives.
…it’ll be the neighborhood nazi/the CC&R queen that will report you or red flag you for your nasty signs defending your property rights with hateful signs.
Then those who understand and are still living in neighborhoods should figure out a 1-2 year plan for being strategically relocated. It takes time to build relationships, even in the country.
I lived in a neighborhood with several people just like that. One of them, named Maria, ran background checks on her neighbors, and if she found one she didn’t like, she did everything she could to force that person to leave.
RUBY RIDGE WACO ??
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/national/police-marylands-red-flag-law-thwarts-possible-workplace-shooting
…to help answer part of this question…..I have a nephew in-law enforcement in L.A. P.D. and he is a far left advocate…..he will follow the marching orders of any nature to take away your firearms…….but like most lefties he’ll be looking over his shoulder to make sure he has someone to cover his ass…..
Don’t forget,these so-called law enforcement jack-booted traitors also have families that may be targeted!!
I’d say 95% of cops don’t give a shit about the Constitution or an individual’s civil rights, they shoot chihuahuas in the name of “officer safety” for Christ sake. They are more interested in getting their paycheck, working extra jobs to help pay for that house they cant afford and retiring at 55 with a fat pension. They will most assuredly confiscate weapons if ordered to do so and will kill you, your pets and your entire family if you try to resist. I say this as I was a cop for over 12 years and most of the people I worked with were just as bad, if not worse, than the people we arrested.
I’d say more like 75% but now we’re splitting hairs. Almost all of the good ones are deputies.
There does seem to be a difference with Sheriffs Offices and Police Departments. I think alot of it has to do with Sheriffs being elected officials.
Interesting, never really gave it much thought outside of my own personal anecdotes. You may be right.
read my above comment
From all of my research it appears that sex crimes are the favorite crime committed by police officers.
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-in-cuffs/los-angeles-deputy-convicted-of-sexual-assaulting-six-female-inmates-QDrJenodsE6Ku0iwFA-YNA/
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/tennessee-police-officer-admits-to-raping-three-women-while-on-duty-2JX5EC7FC0GDNmOIuuOB6Q/
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/south-florida-cop-sued-for-ordering-minor-to-strip-while-he-fondled-himself-ABlIWbabk0yMgqM9jMu-UA/
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-in-cuffs/florida-officer-bought-child-porn-on-the-internet-arrested-by-fbi-YetsQS-Mckm8vt9Cfmmr1Q/
My father retired from BCPD.
He told me “if a crime can’t be solved, it’s because a cop did it”.
…been saying that for years!!!
My Grandmother told me years ago that they used to find people who the police especially hated on the railroad tracks. The official cause of death: He fell asleep on the tracks and got run over by a locomotive.
Second comment I’ve seen mentioning public pensions. IF the pension crisis (underfunded pensions cannot pay out CURRENT obligations with available assets / feasible rates of return on investments) hits before total SHTF, the cops may ALL be on our side – because if the politicians lied to the cops about their pensions (and they have), then why wouldn’t they lie about EVERYTHING? And who wants to take orders from liars? Maybe this point should be made LOUDLY now, while we still can …
Then why didn’t you arrest them for breaking the law? HMM? There is no such thing as a good cop, NOT ONE. If they refuse to arrest those officers they know willingly break the law, they are just as bad as the criminal cops.
It needs to happen, it has to happen, it will happen. It’s PAST TIME for the MEN of America to GET OFF THEIR KNEES and set the ship right. The future holds many horrors for us, but just as the proud people of Vietnam and the Afghani patriots we bunch together as “Taliban” ( maybe they just don’t want their country run by people whose degenerate “values” are anathema to theirs – imagine ) the American police/military/mercenary triad is a rickety three legged stool. Yes, THEY want it, and they shall have it. Eventually, their appetites will wane – as their comrades’ houses are bombed, their families are targeted, they are unable to travel safely to “work”. Millions in this country, Citizen and badged goon alike, will perish. All for a lie. To paraphrase Jim Morrison, “we’ve got the guns AND the numbers”. To all “conservatives”, accept the future and what must be done. You will be shown no mercy and must dispense none. God help us all.
Of course they want it because they firmly believe that we will do nothing. We’ll meekly surrender our sporting equipment and prepare for our boxcar rides to the camps. Once we are disarmed the scenario will play out exactly as it has for the entirety of human history. Our elites will kill us without any risk to their own safety. The borders will be totally opened and what’s left of the USofA will be thrown in the dustbin of history.
They are most likely correct. No camps will be necessary. They’ll leave the meek in their fiberboard shacks watching endless reruns of Leave It to Beaver while chowing down on Ecostew washed down with Mescabeer, the Trippy Treat. Try it, you’ll like it! And most will.
Just to be clear, The Doors lyric is, “THEY got the guns, but we got the numbers”.
Words matter…
Encouraging people to take up arms/enact violence is either not well thought out (govt. still has a monopoly on violence), or it’s an obvious PSYOP to foment problem-reaction-solution. Not saying you are, but just throwing that out there.
People should be thinking rationally, not being Antifa-equivalent wingnuts. Be a sea snake and wait for Sauron to turn his gaze to the Black Gates. While waiting, figure out how to starve the beast peacefully.
“They” are watching…
An addendum to the letter to Mr. Security Agent: Mr. Agent, You sure have a nice family. Your wife seems sort of reticent about describing your position, but your children are real proud of you. We see them around your house all the time. We know which house is yours. It would be a real shame if anything happened to that nice family. Stay on the right side of things, and you will not have to give it a thought. Throw in, or stay in with the wrong badge-wearing crowd, and it might get unspeakably ugly, real fast.
You think that pension they promised you is important? You think that the arc of history bends towards…you?? How much do you want to bet that you are right? You want to bet everything dear to you? You are making that bet, as long as you wear the badge for the wrong crew. Be careful how you choose, and aware of all the implications. A lot of people are aware of your choices, and will let you know where you stand. There will not be any appeals allowed.
It is real simple. When magically all those of a sudden, law abiding, legal, gun owning citizens, at the stroke of a pen, are now all deemed criminals due to illegal unconstitutional gun confiscation laws due to criminals actions there will be blood in the streets of anyone trying to enforce that illegal act. Surely. If they want the gun violence to stop then start prosecuting it and allowing the prison terms in sentencing to commence its full term. The same people wanting to confiscate guns are the ones allowing bad dudes out on parole. They are allowed to continue to create gun chaos so these people can disarm us. They want to disarm us first so they can destroy the constitution and take over. This is a fight for the republic and any actions taken to save it will be justified and pardoned.
Don’t forget that it is your neighbors who out of their own fear will rat you out in a heartbeat. Arrest, torture and kill a few neighbors “who should have known” about the guns in the possession of the “domestic terrorist” …pretty standard stuff. It works rather well if the State is ruthless and the population kept hungry, distracted and there are few examples of successful rebellion.
The East German Stasi, the KGB now FSB, etc. and then you get the State supporting “people’s groups” ANTIFA will morph into local militia/political commissars. If that doesn’t properly motivate you well…
Score settling, rape, theft, murder the stock in trade of the authoritarian state…….and that’s before we get to the AGW’s. In the USSR/Russia the OMON or tax police look like LA SWAT circa 1980 except they have no restrictions on violence, no need for warrants and there is no recourse. The Haitian TonTon Macoute will be a good role model for the larger cities.
I think Matt is far too positive in estimating the amount of push back……Unfortunately, I suspect we are getting ready to find out.
Surely the cucks that instigate this (media, professors, politicians etc) will be in dire fear of reprisals form patriots. Do they really think they can cause this and sit back in peace and safety and not be the very first targets of revenge? How foolish! The brainwashing of leos and fleas is complete. When your president asks its generals if they would fire upon us citizens and those that refused were relieved of duty. You have your answer. Those that do not resign immediately their positions upon any more gun laws are complicit and compliant and should immediately be deemed an enemy of our constitution. What else is there to judge by? They should immediately rip off their badges and declare an open out loud oath to the constitutional militia and join their fellow patriot citizens united against a corrupt treasonous state..
We have seen this coming slowly and now the left feels emboldened to move faster. I always said they move slowly like a frog boiling. Their mistake is they turned up the heat too fast and the frogs are now wise to the pot. There is no going back now. We will not vote this away.
Fabianism.
First, if you’re going to write an “open letter” then you need to be much more CONCISE. I doubt if even one “Mr. Security Agent” in all America is gonna read this. So, what have you accomplished?
Second, I love how tough every fucken blogger is when typing away words on a computer. “Fuck with me too much and I’m gonna kill you!!!” Uh-huh. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Stuck, I like and respect you, and usually agree with and enjoy your posts, but here you are wrong.
Matt Bracken is a treasure, and I’m glad to see him here on TBP. Unlike the bloggers you denigrate above, he is a former Navy SEAL, a brilliant writer, and fully tough enough to fucken kill you if you fuck with him too much.
I’ve read his books and fully agree with his stance in this “open letter”. And I don’t know who the Feral Irishman is, but I think I’d like to have a glass of Jameson’s with him.
I did not know all that about Matt Bracken.
Thank you. I stand corrected.
Stuck,believe that he came up with the phrase”BLOAT”,at least the first I saw of it and really like it.
Matt has written many great articles over the years,one of my favorites was helping to improve your night vision.Go walk your areas in full moon and every night after,as the moon fades you have acclimated your vision for better night vision and just got to know your area better at night.This applies to rural areas as cities and such have for most part been plenty lite up,still should know any area you reside well day or night.
This letter is getting around as this and many other sites thru the years have posted it and while some years old the info. remains the same.
I suggest you share it with a few people and help spread it.
Let’s not exalt people simply for their job title. A bunch of Navy Seals just got fired for drunkenness and sexual assault. I side with Stucky because I’ve known him longer and besides he has never been accused of sexual assault or drunkenness.
I heard his wanker gets wanked more than the average wanker.
Freak
(lol)
If you like NKIT’s contributions on FF, then you will probably love the Feral Irishman’s Friday Femme Fatale, as it goes a step or two further. They also come up with some good stuff, like the above post.
The letter is SIX years old. Times change.
Tyranny never changes, it always wears the same suit.
Stucky you will never see it unless its right next to you, you see it with your own eyes or someone you trust tells you they actually saw it. . The media will never report on any patriot movement as it relates to the constitution. If you think your enemies are gonna tell you the score when they are getting their asses kicked you are mouth breather bro.
Hey Stucky, it’s SDGuy from a hundred years ago. Remember me? LOL Great running into you, as it’s been about 10 years now.
Cheers! [email protected]
Of course I do!! Didn’t you also post as “Sandy Eggo”?
You are a blast from the past!! Just goes to prove that no one EVER leaves TBP … they just lurk until they croak. lol
Wonderful of you to drop a note. Now post comments once a week or so …. you were always a fantastic commentor.
Peace.
Tough guy!! We got a tough guy here!!!
You must be one of those leftists I heard about.
Last week I wrote a letter of appreciation regarding the help a cop gave my mom.
Today, I have nothing but contempt for some cops in this town. Why? Because for the first time in 62 years the Labor Day Parade was cancelled.
“Further investigation was conducted by the Monmouth County Prosecutor’s Office, the Sea Bright Police Department, the Middlesex County Prosecutor’s Office, the Middlesex County Sheriff’s Department K-9 Unit, the South Plainfield Police Department, the New Jersey Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness, the FBI, and the New Jersey State Police Bomb Squad.”
And why was the FBI, Homeland Security, and NJ State Police called to the scene? Because the guy they arrested was in possession of illegal FIREWORKS!!! (I believe they were M-80s). Yeah, they stormed this middle-aged guy’s home — about 8 K-9 dogs were involved — and are in the process of destroying his life because the guy left a box of unexploded fireworks at a bar after he was told he can’t set them off!!
https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2019/09/04/thomas-kaiser-south-plainfield-more-explosives-charges-after-labor-day-parade/2214353001/
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Dear Middlesex County Prosecutor and S.P. Police Chief;
Ya cancelled the Labor Day Parade because some guy had fireworks?? I have two pieces of advice for ya. First, grow some balls! Second, go suck Diseased Donkey Dicks ya fucken Gestapo goons!
Sincerely,
A Concerned Citizen
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THAT’S how you write an “open letter”
Also, why does no one ever ask the question why federal agents are involved in a non-interstate commerce crime that’s likely a state/local misdemeanor? Because if it’s a federal crime, Jumping the Shark doesn’t even cover federal govt. jurisdiction at this point.
I noticed the local cops call up the feds a lot. I think they understand that to live here they need to stay alive.
Seems to me it’s a rank violation of Posse Comitatus.
Every facet of the federal government is way outside of its constitutional bounds. I am being literal. It has been a long slippery slope to tyranny.
Hopefully we can try the Articles after the collapse. They couldn’t have done any worse.
BS, Stucky. You didn’t write any letters. Blowhard, you are, and a hypocrite for describing Matt Bracken as the same.
Because I so deeply care about you think, I have a short message for you ….
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So you are a like a woman in that your opinion of LEO’s depends upon your last experience with them?
My, oh my, aren’t you the observant one.
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Thumbs up for the laugh.
Stucky, I do have to admit you have Ginsu balls!
The politicians who passed these new gun laws will probably be the first casualties in the next civil war they are creating. Too ignorant to know that now but sadly, if they don’t forget this antigun rhetoric, I fear they will learn it quickly in the future.
Look for the Twenty-nine Palms Questionaire
https://29palmssurvey.com/survey.html
Ah yes, the infamous question 46. Be sure to read it.
Can’t run any more effectively but still handle my hardware effectively . No doubt an organized attack on my home and property will ultimately be successful . My hope is to at least stand on my feet and make things as difficult as possible for as long as possible .
Didn’t Mike Vanderboegh start a story like that?
They have several advantages that give them comfort. They have “the law” on their side. They’re organized. And they have unlimited resources. Sure, they know the occasional citizen will fight back, but they know he’ll be overwhelmed. And if we try to organize, well, they’ll slip in a CI or two and have us rounded up individually during 3am no-knock raids. Form a militia and head for deep woods? Please, they’ll come after you with dogs and helicopters equipped with FLIR. Do we out number them? Yes, but they’ll divide and conquer, the salami tactic, slice by slice. Hell, that’s how the Left has gotten as far as they have. No, I’m pessimistic about our future. The totalitarians will have their way eventually as they always have. Resistance is admirable, but futile. The people only win after the corrupt system collapses under it’s own weight. But first, there’ll be suffering.
Hank,
Respectfully hope you are wrong.
Resistance is futile??? Who forgot to tell the Minutemen, Taliban and Viet Cong?
Hank, there is zero defense to lone wolves that look and walk like sheep amongst sheep. There was a dentist, a french dentist, in ww2 that was a jew. At night he would kill at least 2-5 german soldiers every night for months. He was finally caught and laughed as he went out with a bang.
Surely there are many many people like that here as we saw and continue to see in the middle east. Women wearing burkas blowing themselves up. Mullahs running guns. Here it could be the local elementary school principal. Is a weekend warrior stealthy bastard wiping out people for months before he is caught. Your local preacher. Maybe even your local deputy that by day is on their side and by night a constitutionalist. I think every one is so fat and out of shape with gmo food and chems that the squirrels may have a better fighting chance. ?
Sounds like learned helplessness to me. Here’s an example locally that shows that retaliation is not hard in the modern world. My buddy is on swat locally, he told me about a drugged up dude that hated cops that was suicidal. He made up a story about hostage situation at his house and the swat showed up. The idiotic guy ambushed the swat team from across the street from a small garage. With a bolt action rifle, and likely high on drugs the guy took out two swat members. Then the guy offed himself some time later. The two swat guys both survived, but were permanently messed up, one retired early the other works desks now.
Bottom line this was a drugged up “mastermind” who wanted to take out cops and very nearly did so. My buddy said that he was worried about this type of thing during the anti-cop period where they were getting ambushed in their cars and such. He said there is nothing they can do about this type of situation, and they were lucky they weren’t killed. He said though if it was someone who wasn’t a drug addict with a bit better gun and marksmenship at least a couple would have been killed. If it was more than one person, then all bets were off. Tactically cops are human, they have to go home, they do have to respond (at least locally) to calls and it takes almost no strategy to lay an ambush for them.
So really if times ever get so desperate, and people have lost loved ones and deer friends to their homes being raided and the bill of rights is on fire, there will be people out there, at least as smart as an angry crack-head.
Anon,feel they will have more to worry about getting out of their car at home,shot by someone who lost a friend/family member during a “swatting”.
I remember where certain governments defined the law as they saw fit. And so it goes for the united States.
Liberty does not exist. If it ever did, it was on the boundaries where the government didn’t exist. If you will note, it was not the wild west. That didn’t occur until government got involved and made it so. Before then if you were an asshole you got your DNA string terminated with extreme prejudice. After the War to Prevent Southern Independence well all that went to shit.
Have a nice day!
They will enforce it and are doing it now especially in states with red flag laws it’s just for the most don’t hear about it and when they show up they come with 50, armored cars, K-9 units, the whole ten yards Your neighbors watch and quietly say- glad it’s not me and think – what did that asshole do now? The police will and are enforcing to protect jobs & pensions the bill of Rights in way in the back of bus to them.
Look up the UN’s “Strong Cities” agenda for who may be the ones on America’s streets in the future.
I believe the whole propaganda campaign against LEO’s (since Oblahblah’s presidency) is nothing more than getting the populace to believe that most LEO’s are no good and, there is a need for an outside police force (a.k.a. blue hats) to walk our streets.
So, they may keep around the percentage of LEO’s and other ABC agents that will do as they are told with complete disregard to the constitution and, supplement them with the blue hats.
“Gun confiscation really is coming, and it doesn’t seem to be a partisan issue anymore.
Red flag gun laws, the NRA being labeled a terrorist organization, the Trump Administration’s support of HARPA’s agenda, and presidential candidates openly admitting they will confiscate guns if elected are all signs that we are truly heading down a terrifying dystopian path.”
What is HARPA? Creepy, that’s what:
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/harpa-social-credit-big-tech-govt-gun-control/
Interesting read, and I am sure that there will confrontation, violence and death should an oppressive government declare an obligatory national gun confiscation.
I am more of belief that if one does not turn over their weapons as demanded, the oppressive goverment will give you periods of ‘amnesty’ to comply.
They KNOW who has them. I am guessing that a very high percentage of guns owned by private citizens in the USA were legally transferred to them on a 4473 form via an FFL, which the gooberment has records of.
So, the gooberment can reconcile the guns that they confiscated vs. those that were not.
Second chance now Mr. Main Street USA, you have a month, or else.
“Oh, we see that you still have not turned in that nice Sig P227 or that S&W M&P 15 or that nice Mossberg 590A shotty, well too bad, because your bank account just got accidentally wiped out in an unfortunate computer glitch. Oh, and your credit cards have all been disabled too, and your driver’s license has just been revoked, your home foreclosed, your employer is going to fire you because the FBI just told them you watch child porn all day at work, and your kid’s just got expelled from college from dealing dope according to a sworn statement from a government informant, and your poor wife, well she’ll probably just have a nervous breakdown about this unfortunate misunderstanding.
Now, last chance, surrender your weapons immediately, or else.”
You cannot surrender that which you sold many years ago…..
Robin
A thousand thumbs up. As you wrote, there is no need for the police to threaten to use force to make a person give up his guns, when they could just as easily do it by declaring him a domestic terrorist and then
Freezing his bank account
Cancelling his credit cards
Revoking his drivers license
Getting him fired from his job
This is not a hypothetical scenario, it’s already started. The San Francisco city council just declared that any member of the NRA is a domestic terrorist and therefore the Red Flag law applies.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/four_years_after_allowing_universal_concealed_carry_law_maine_rated_the_safest_state_in_the_nation_for_crime.html
It does look hopeless at this point. Americans have been so brainwashed over the last 40 years of relentless propaganda that many will do as they are told and hand over their guns. The lack of a historical understanding of what gun control always leads to makes most victims of their own stupidity.
I have been wondering if they will come after white people first or go after the niggling in the inter cities ?
I have already made my decision. I will not hand over any of my guns to police. I probably won’t last very long cause I’m 58 and not in the best of health .I believe what’s coming to America is all part of the judgement of God. No nation on the face of this earth has rebelled against God the way we have as a nation.Our so called leaders have betray not only us but God as well and we have done nothing to stop this decent into hell. It has been easy for me cause I don’t have any children or grandchildren. Just myself and my mom who is 78 bless her soul. When the time comes it will be easier for to ” make my final stand “. God bless to all. I wish you the best .
Coincidentally I’m 58 as well, ditto the letter and spirit of what you’ve just now stated. “Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.” I was 19 when I first heard that, LMAO watching Animal House. Yes, well at age 58, curb stomped by jack booted gubmint thugs is no way to have it ended, either. Forget about my “cold, dead hands”, they’d better bring oven mitts because what they remove from my hands is going to be hotter than a fresh fucked fox in a forest fire. Anyone foolish enough to think they can ‘cooperate’ and/or make nice as a means of avoiding death is BEGGING to be tortured to death, and I’m having none of it.
Maine and NH
The white people mini-redoubt of the Northeast.
I can see military-style people rolling up to the gate and I ask them if they took an oath? I meet lots of people who are more into dancing with the stars and know zip about the Constitution. I wonder about a younger generation and their thinking and what they will do. Maybe blue hats that don’t give a shit will show up. Face off with an APC? I sure hope non of this stuff happens. Strange how my guns have behaved themselves all these years but now because of some nutjobs, the gov. decides they need to make criminals out of millions of law-abiding people? I don’t get how anyone can even consider voting Democrat. The Republicans aren’t much better. I think the fall of society is accelerating.
You don’t need to know zip about the Constitution.
Why?
Because it’s the governing document that set the stage for 1860 and a host of future atrocities.
If they are going to label everyone criminals, and treat everyone like criminals then maybe everyone should give them what they deserve? A shitload of criminal activity..? When these nut jobs go crazy so how the patriots will be labeled as the crazy’s. It is a no win situation.
I believe every person must decide two things.
1) will you live on your knees in a horrible horrible situation nearly unimaginable
2) Choose when and where they will die on their feet. The first choice has already been made for you so essentially all you have is the other choice at this point.
We have seen a number of Sheriffs throughout the country refuse to enforce red flag laws. These are ones in conservative territory who know who pays them. In the big cities, they will be too busy battling the street thugs to bother the suburbs.
In my area, LEO’s in Memphrica will have their hands full and our county Sheriff will be setting up roadblocks to keep the animals out. A deputy who lives nearby will solicit help from many of us to protect our neighborhood.
If the deputies in your area aren’t fleeing for Argentina when the shit hits the fan, then they must be pretty solid.
In many jurisdictions, deputies are abusive, sex-crazed, drunk driving, pedistrian-killing assholes who have burned countless individuals and will be among the first ones shot for their past misdeeds.
Argentina (assuming they know where it is) is not a good choice for fleeing deputies unless they have mucho dinero . Greenland might be a wiser choice.
The article mentions “Constitution” over 20 times and that piece of shit document promoted by foreign interests is what got us to this stage in the game.
You can’t have any kind of HOUSECLEANING with a beaten-up 200+ year old Constitution that led to 1860.
However, the one paragraph with the “C” word I really like is this one, especially because I believe the Oath Keepers are a MANUFACTURED PR FRONT FOR COPS AND .GOV:
On the other hand, if you no longer resemble the upstanding and honorable federal agents I have known in the past, if that whole oath-to-the-Constitution shtick was a big fat joke to you and you would accept a transfer to the old Soviet KGB or East German Stasi for a ten percent pay raise…then we are definitely going to have a problem. So that oath you swore really matters, one way or the other, and so does your personal sense of honor.
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“However, the one paragraph with the “C” word I really like is this one, especially because I believe the Oath Keepers are a MANUFACTURED PR FRONT FOR COPS AND .GOV:”
WHAT THE HELL IS AN OATH KEEPER
.22,
Please read the above link before you comment. Or don’t comment.
Once again I find myself getting ‘sick and tired’ of your constant broad band attacks on:
The TEA Party & Oath Keepers.
You love to throw out massive derogatory slurs… .22 Atomic Bombs (But Nuclear bombs don’t really exist…right) at millions of people.
We have been here before…now it’s time to get into the details of your charges against both groups that rose up and slowed down the Petulant Manchurian Candidate down (especially the TEA Party). I can prove what they have done and how many of them were persecuted for it.
I stood with both groups for years…actually faced Antifa down once (the only local chance I have gotten to date) with Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, and a bunch of Joe Sixpacks guys and gals at a Free Speech ralley. A the time put my 67 year old ass on the line. What have you done personally?
You want a debate on both groups and who they are and what they have actually done I’ll give you one?
The ball is in your court.
One rule…please use your own mind not constant Mathis links, I suspect many are tired of that bombardment by the downvotes.
I’m not saying the people who flock to these organizations are bad!
I’m saying these organization always get infiltrated, poisoned, bought out, or in the worst cases, become data mining operations on the people involved (for future retaliation, which in the case of the IRS has been proven in the eyes of many.)
.22
Counter debate points:
1. You have completely dismissed the victories and the people involved in the TEA Party and Oath Keepers in the past with many dismissive, flippant, derogatory slurs, you know it and I know it.
This is not my first time calling you out on this. Your tone is different now, but your disrespect and sweeping condemnation was and is obvious.
2. So I take it you are now acknowledging the Tea Party’s SLOWING DOWN, DISRUPTING, DELAYING, PUTTING UP ROAD BLOCKS IN FRONT OF THE GREATEST TROJAN HORSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, and the persecution and risk the leaders suffered under and fought back against, winning an IRS admission of guilt and some resignations.
Now, you don’t specifically acknowledge or say anything about the accomplishments after years of fighting against TPTB that the TEA Party (Standing in the Gap) did against both parties, the media, the IRS, Hollywood, the entire DC Swamp, Academia, the entire Obama perverted government, and the apathy of too many Americans…all you admit is the enemy of the Republic always wins in the end against organized protest and resistance.
Are you that much of a deafest?
Should we just all become gray men and woman, arm up, hide and wait for them to come for us?
Do you realize that because of the sacrifices of the TEA Party how much time you have been bought?
Your welcome!
The Tea Party led to the greatest landslide ever in mid-term elections….Obama was bitch slapped in 2010, though they fuckers we elected were mostly disappointing. Much in the way Trump was the bitchslapping of the Obama/Leftist cabal and yet has been mostly marginalized.
I have come to accept that we are now in a post-constitutional period were our vote really does not matter all that much. Don’t worry this interim phase will soon pass into 4G warfare…..in 2020 we get Civil War if Trump wins and Genocide if the Leftists take power.
I was thrilled seeing the bitch slap given over being completely knocked out…that was what was at stake in 2010…
Time…The Tea Party bought U.S. ‘time’. Just trying to get .22 to realize that.
I’m not looking for a savior, already have one…just looking for as much ‘time’ as I can find in the close of these years of plenty (they have been for me) to pray, prep, stack, arm and get ready for the 7 years of SHTF.
I suspect many of us will be going home before 2030…I’m ready…I just want to be a servant leader for those I love, most of whom have no idea what is coming…no matter what I tell them, but who I hope will end up on my compound, because it will be their best hope.
There will be a harvest during the shitstorm, there always is during shitstorms.
SLOWING DOWN, DISRUPTING, DELAYING, PUTTING UP ROAD BLOCKS IN FRONT OF THE GREATEST
TROJAN HORSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
Who led the charge in 2009? Mostly millions of white older Americans…who got off their asses and protested in many ways through the organic rise of the TEA PARTY.
On February 27, 2009, more than 35,000 people organized events in nearly 50 cities.
I was one of them .22 – what did you do in 2009?
Americans reacted to TARP (the Troubled Asset Relief Program) and the permanent BS corrupt bailout culture D.C. was advancing, and an organic grass roots protest came out of nowhere.
The movement grew quickly, as more and more Americans came to understand the truism that Washington’s solution was more Progressive/Socialist/Communist road to perdition pollution, more massive parasitical government.
Less than two months later, on April 15, 2009, a second round of rallies took place – this time in 850 cities, with more than a million protesters in attendance.
I was one of them .22 – what did you do in 2009?
We were not typical political protesters. In fact, the vast majority of TEA Party protesters had never been to a rally or protest or public political event before. I never had. Virtually none of the protesters in 2009 had ever taken to the streets before and most of us were older, but not all. You would be amazed who I met at TEA Party rallies. We were not going to sit by quietly as the country turned towards Socialism. Piss on Obama, his handlers, and his ilk!
I made a homemade sign that said:
WE THE PEOPLE SAY NO TO SOCIALISM!
Made another one that said:
“A SOCIALIST IS JUST A PROGRESSIVE IN A HURRY!”
On the other side it said:
“A COMMUNIST IS JUST A SOCIALIST IN A HURRY!”
Then the 2010 election happened and the Obama Tsunami was stopped, seriously slowed down, taking the House back from the Left WAS A WONDERFUL TEA PARTY INSPIRED VICTORY.
But, some of the TEA PARTY candidates were not polished, savvy, or had money. No shit…what do you expect from the grass roots – not the identical BLUE/RED political machines. Countless Joe Sixpacks and Jane Shopping Malls got off their asses. Did you?
One member of Congress said this about the TEA Party: “We don’t know what to do with them. They don’t want any money from us, and we’re not used to that.” HA! The Swamp was baffled at first, then when they realized what we really wanted the attacks started.
A battle in-between the TEA Party grass root blades and the frigg’in RINO establishment sons of bitches and daughters of witches started. It was a grind and in the end the establishment swamp Republicans won…but they had lots and lots of help. Maybe if more would have joined the TEA Party a national tipping point could have been reached. What did you do?
The Republican party undermined the TEA Party six ways from Sunday (after all they were fighting for their Democratic Lite life) while the Obama led IRS persecution started, gaining speed and victims, and by 2012 it was obvious many in TEA Party leadership positions had been targeted, and many others in the TEA Party remembered Duck & Cover. We were getting selectively persecuted. It was chilling…I remember the mood, and the fears were palatable.
Constantly assualted by the media, Hollywood, academia, the IRS, RINOS, and too many Americans sitting on their hands…plus every component of the second term Obama government, our enemies wore the millions of TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY fed up Americans down and the organic movement ran down as the 2016 election approached.
Over the years the TEA Party generally asked Congress to:
– Reject both the regulations known as “cap and trade”.
– The so-called Gang of 8’s attempt at amnesty.
– More energy production.
– Fewer job-killing procedures and directives that had been strangling the economy for too long.
– Cut spending and live within a budget, just as families all over America must.
– To regulate itself better, and put an end to the cronyism.
– To keep politicians, government bureaucrats, and death panels out of health care.
– CUT TAXES AND REDUCE THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT
Oh – and we asked Congress to do something about the fact that under President Obama, the IRS was used to target, intimidate and harass Tea Party members and supporters simply because we disagreed with his policies. And that was effective, eventually.
Eventually the ‘weaponized’ IRS acknowledged that it was illegally targeting citizens for their political views, no one has yet gone to jail because the DC fix was in. But it stopped!
The TEA PARTY gave the IRS a defeat…it’s been a long war since 1913 but the TEA Party humbled the IRS on their attacks.
Former President Calvin Coolidge, who, as a 38-year old, noted to his father in 1910, “It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones.” That was another part of the TEA Party’s influence during the Obama trials and tribulation years.
Barack Hussain Obama damaged this country like no other single person in our history…the TEA PARTY was single handily responsible for:
SLOWING DOWN, DISRUPTING, DELAYING, PUTTING UP ROAD BLOCKS IN FRONT OF THE GREATEST TROJAN HORSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
.22 you said:
“However, the one paragraph with the “C” word I really like is this one, especially because I believe the Oath Keepers are a MANUFACTURED PR FRONT FOR COPS AND .GOV:”
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?????
The Oath Keepers have been attacked from the left as radical patriots, tea partyers, birthers, 9/11 truthers, and nativists.
Hmmm….I wonder how many radical patriots, tea partyers, birthers, 9/11 truthers, and nativists, are on TBP
The Southern Poverty Law Center has even mentioned Oath Keepers in many reports that analyze hate groups and white supremacy movements.”
.22 So how does it feel to be in agreement with ‘The Southern Poverty Law Center’? One of the greatest TPTB Globalist, scam, reverse racists, corrupt, real hate group outfits in the world.
Hey man, I’m just saying everything gets infiltrated and blown up from in the inside.
For crying out loud this is basic espionage 101 and propaganda 101.
Just because the Oath Keepers are attacked by the SPLC or the left is meaningless, because most these dummies on the left don’t even know they are attacking a government-managed front organization.
When you want your front organization to appear legitimate, you should encourage critics and attacks! It would look highly suspicious if your front organization was not attacked! You even get to manage the attacks because you MANAGE BOTH PARTIES!
NRA: Infiltrated and blown up from the inside
Tea Party: Purchased and dismantled from the inside
Oath Keepers: Hollow promises to not take your guns during the next Katrina, otherwise they are cool with status quo flag waving, drug war door-kicking, first-responder worshiping, almost like going to church!
I appreciate your comments, but it’s no wonder these organizations don’t last long. You are way too fucking trusting of their motives!
Let me answer your response line by line:
You said “Hey man, I’m just saying everything gets infiltrated and blown up from in the inside. For crying out loud this is basic espionage 101 and propaganda 101.”
I say: Do you think many/most in the TEA Party didn’t see the relentless wave attacks going on year after year of your first sentence? We fought back tooth and nail. Do you understand who came after us and the power they had/have?
I was interviewed on camera in DC by a ‘journalist’ who was supposed to be supportive of the movement (his introduction) who asked me seven or eight leading, baiting, seditious, raciest tinged questions….that I calmly battered down, and when I pulled out my pocket CONSTITUTION and gave substitutive answers on the issues…he turned into the Road Runner. You know the Constitution…that Piece of Shit document you referred to above. (What do you want us to govern by a Mathis link?)
You said: “Just because the Oath Keepers are attacked by the SPLC or the left is meaningless, because most these dummies on the left don’t even know they are attacking a government-managed front organization.”
I say: The SPLC are not dummies…THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THEM ARE! They are a calculated, corrupt, rich, cunning hydra headed snake with countless millions stashed off shore. They are attacking the Oath Keepers because OATH KEEPERS are mostly: radical patriots, tea partyers, birthers, 9/11 truthers, and nativists…a membership point you seem to be completely blind to.
Where is your ‘EVIDENCE’ OATH KEEPERS is a government-managed front organization??? Did you even read the Ammoland article I attached?
Are you too proud to admit your insulting balderdash against millions of patriots went too far? Do you think you can get away with broad charges with no specific evidence.
You said: “When you want your front organization to appear legitimate, you should encourage critics and attacks! It would look highly suspicious if your front organization was not attacked! You even get to manage the attacks because you MANAGE BOTH PARTIES!”
I say: Read the comments in the Ammoland link…that has always been handled well by Oath Keepers. Their mission is simple and its success will one day come to light when Civil War 2 starts. I know two LEO’s who will resign if ever ordered to confiscate guns because of Oath Keepers…because it came from their lips to my ears after I personally gave them Oath Keeper material and we had long discussions. Both are rock solid Christians and both know others who feel the same…Oath Keepers is planting these seeds and watering them.
You said: “NRA: Infiltrated and blown up from the inside.”
I say: Yep, human greed and corruption. I left them many years ago and work through.
https://www.grnc.org/
You say: “Tea Party: Purchased and dismantled from the inside.”
I say: I have listed what the TEA Party accomplished and the time it has bought U.S. all, as well as the enemies arrayed against it and the long fight. You’re easy, ungrateful and insulting rants are shortsighted and flippant compared to the hard truth.
Obviously you have never been to a Tea Party rally back in the day. They were amazing and the people attending salt of the earth.
You said: “Oath Keepers: Hollow promises to not take your guns during the next Katrina, otherwise they are cool with status quo flag waving, drug war door-kicking, first-responder worshiping, almost like going to church!”
I say: “Obviously you have not read the Ammoland article including the comments or you missed the obvious. Oath Keepers has no power to not take anyone’s guns away…HOW CAN YOU MISS THAT? The organization states it wants to remind the Police and Military of this…read the link below slow .22, and tell me exactly what you disagree with in the attachment below….exactly….not some broad charge or insult with no evidence. Below is why Oath Keepers was formed and exists.
https://oathkeepers.org/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
You say: “I appreciate your comments, but it’s no wonder these organizations don’t last long. You are way too fucking trusting of their motives!”
I say: What makes you think I didn’t investigate ther motives or I’m even active. I just stood with Oath Keeps once (put my ols ass on the line) but we faced down Antifa with the Proud Boys and average Joes.
So what is the shelf life of any organization good or evil supposed to be? Do you think the 30 odd million Tea Party supportive Americans have forgotten what they accomplished or the principles that got them off their asses?
Do you think millions of LEOs and former military (including you) are not aware of the link above on their Constitutional Oath because of Oath Keepers?
Look .22….you have been posting a long time, I’m aware of your beliefs and background, we are actually simpatico most of the time…but not on this thread…not even close enough for M-26 frags or government work.
Bottom line:
Gov’t only has power authorized by the people.
Gov’t breaks contract with the people, and they are no longer the gov’t.
They are then only a criminal band of thugs with fancy uniforms.
The people may then deal with them as they wish. This idea that the gov’t seems to have where they are important but the people are expendable needs to be reckoned with.
I considered selling my weapons back to the government, but after a background check and thorough investigation into the buyer, I determined that the buyer has a history of violence and is mentally unstable…to big a risk to everyone around it.
Whenever they nasally whine “You don’t NEED a “Weapon of WAR”” read this to them:
WE pay for THEIR prepping….. as they attack Our RIGHT to keep a semi-automatic rifle
I’d like to point out …. In order to “feel safe” the politicians “need” 7,000+ nuclear warheads ,,, at least 11 aircraft carrier battle groups and hundreds more ships , how many multiBillion$ F35s, how many Troops “under arms” and tanks, tanks beyond counting. They employ inhumane ILLEGAL arms such as Depleted Uranium, White Phosphorous, and Napalm. The government is spending $700BILLION every year on GUNS. The Liars swear we are “imminent danger” of being overrun by Barbarian Hordes and that we should be terrified and give Them all the money they want, to buy every concievable weapon …..But we are “crazy” to want semiauto weapons to defend ourselves …….. then it surrounds it’s self with 24/7 ARMED bodyguards and WALLS, WALLS, WALLS for THEM, but you are a racist bigot for wanting a wall . …. and even THAT is not enough as they constantly tell they need MORE weapons and BIGGER weapons ….. then tells YOU that YOU are crazy for wanting semiauto weapons …… “they” have hidden bunkers, stocked with tons of food, medical supplies, equipment, all paid for by YOU, but you will not be welcome inside ….. but YOU are a NUT-CASE for prepping.
Actually it just strikes me – — I wonder how many synagogues are well stocked shelters on YOUR TAXES? DHS has been pouring Your money into Jewish “security” leaving you as a Second Class Citizen who just gets and pays the Bills.
Every year THEY are spending $23,400 (borrowed at interest) PER American on GUNS ….. but YOU are the crazy.
Way back in 1992, Hurricane Andrew hit south Florida. FEMA was so slow and so ineffective in responding that Congress held an investigation. During FEMA testimony, it came out that 90% of FEMA’s budget did NOT go to disaster relief. Most went to “continuity of government programs”. In other words, it went to build and support the underground and isolated bunkers designed to provide a safe haven for the politically well connected. Has the allocation of funds changed for today’s FEMA? I have no idea, and with recent changes in accounting standards (FASB 56) it is now completely legal for agencies to flat out lie about where the money goes or even how much they spend. https://phibetaiota.net/201…
Great comment, except that the 7,000 nukes don’t go bang.
The Jewish-owned nations that make up the UN Permanent Security council are all in on this gag.
“Nukes” are just conventional warheads or shoddy bombs casings made with spare pinball machine parts (source: Back to the Future)
Even if MAGAton nukes were technologically feasable (they’re not) it would be far more profitable and safe and sensible to hoax them like the Apollo program (and pocket the trillions.)
If they outlaw guns then everyone in Kentucky would immediately be a suspect of the Government, not unlike the time when everyone in Kentucky was a suspected Confederate during the War between the States. There were toadies and suck-ups of the Feds back then just as well. There were long term social effects of that policy- they were called feuds and blood vendettas.
This should worry every thinking American. What if the Army is used, and the Private sent to get your arms is the kid down the street ? Will you shoot him ? What if his reserve officer is your buddy the retired cop ? Would he give he orders ?
Very perplexing thought questions. What would I do ?
Not just five beer bagging, but Coffee and Corn Flakes sober. What. ? !
Bob,will be a repeat of the war of secession,only a 1000 times worse with no grey/blue uniforms but many groups and lone folks.
Other than the CA tags, that is doubly great eye candy!!!
Real men disdain fake titties.
GOODNESS!
I’m really glad I live out in the boonies. 130+ miles to any other town our size, and this place has about 7000 people in the whole county. It’s 10,226 sq. miles and the main pop. area has about 4000 maybe.
There’s a pretty substantial majority of ranchers, farmers and loggers here. In this place, most people know just about everyone else, by reputation or name if nothing else.
I said all that to say this – the cops/deputies usually are pretty decent. Go figure, huh, considering the demographics. There’s always some kind of shady shit going on, but it is pretty low key. Basically these guys are apart of an isolated small community, and they are well aware of how things are here. Most are local born/raised. If they stay here for any length of time it’s because they fit in with the life here. Seldom does anything except the serious shit get pushed too hard by the local LEOs.
I’m well aware that this is, indeed, a rare situation nowadays.
We saw how easily things could break out into a shooting war, during the Refuge stand-off in 2016, when LaVoy Finicum was murdered. It was pretty heated, mostly fueled by aggressively pushy behavior by the FBI and the State Troopers at the orders of our gov, Flush-It-Down-Brown.
So I appreciate the setup here as far as LEOs, but I’ve developed a very cautious streak.
Problem is that if some stand up and will not perform unconstitutional acts, there will be enough who will do so.
One reason I suspect for the desire to flood the nation with illegals is that they will make a perfect shock force for the undesirable citizens being annihilated. They will be un or low educated but strong and young with little or no moral code or upbringing.
We see how they act when they arrive. They violate the laws and laugh they murder and rape without disregard. How easy would it be to recruit them with promises of citizenship, money and power just to murder those they have contempt for anyway.
The Constitution, and other central government failures…
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt . . .”
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
“You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated the Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. The October Revolution was not what you call in America the “Russian Revolution.” It was an invasion and conquest over the Russian people. More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered in the entirety of human history. It cannot be understated. Bolshevism was the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant of this reality is proof that the global media itself is in the hands of the perpetrators.”
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Obtain and read “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross. It is available as a free PDF on the internet, as well as being available in book form from various sellers. In book form, it is a little pricey, but is well worth it. In it are solutions to certain problems of the day. It is a history lesson, law lesson, and cultural lessons all in one.
When this book was first released, sellers were routinely harassed by FBI, DEA, and other “alphabet agency” types. This tells you something about this book…
my days of looking at a cop as someone to help me is gone, just one more nasty ass wanting money out of you, neber there when you need them or after the fact. when cops start looking at everone as a turd then they can not be trusted they work for the city ot state and you ain’t shit
Of course “we are all Palestinians now”. American “law enforcement” has been trained “lock, stock and barrel” in Israeli military tactics. American “law enforcement” trainers have been given free trips to Israel, to learn firsthand how to handle us “Palestinians”.
From barking out commands, demanding immediate compliance, to outright murder of American citizens for merely reaching for one’s identification, or not crawling fast enough with one’s hands behind his back, it is obvious that us ordinary law-abiding citizens are considered to be the “enemy”.
This is all by design, the USA being a “client state” of Israel, with our dual-citizenship politicians getting their “marching orders” straight from Tel Aviv.
Be gray and get them when they are alone and not looking.
It already happen during the Katrina incident!! There was mass gun confiscation,remember that!!