Danger Ahead!!! Advice From A Former Militia Leader

Authored by David Brockett via DCDirtyLaundry.com,

Disclosure:

During the 1990’s I served as a militia leader in Texas; it was after Federal agents killed Vickie Weaver and her son in Ruby Ridge, Idaho (1992), the Branch Davidian massacre in Waco, Texas (1993), the Assault Weapons Ban (1994), and the Oklahoma City bombing (1995). The nation was in turmoil.   The Clintons were in power with “Bloody Janet” Reno as Attorney General. Even the Home-Schooling movement was under fire by the Clinton cabal. We were told it “took a village’ to raise our children–but their village was full of unpatriotic idiots.

Democrat Ann Richards (responsible for the illegal military involvement at the Waco massacre) was Governor of Texas, and we had almost no gun rights. You couldn’t even legally carry a pistol in your vehicle unless you could establish that you were “traveling” and staying away from home overnight (keep a suitcase in the trunk). By 1996 the militia movement was in full swing across the nation, with a bunch of poorly-trained men and women in camo, faced off against well-armed federal agents, law enforcement and the National guard. To say it was a powder keg would be an understatement. To make matters even more dangerous, the feds were using undercover operatives to stir up and instigate violence in militias.

Today when I see people write about how close to a revolution we are, I understand the sentiment, but you ain’t seen nothing yet! Wait until you decide to group together, armed and wearing some kind of military uniform, making loud anti-government statements, and planning your resistance! Lots of interesting things will follow!

Siren’s Song

Oh, the romance of being a revolutionary: square-jawed, armed and dangerous, feared by men, admired by women and children–and your dog. But mostly it gives you a chance to buy loads of expensive, dangerous-looking toys and cool camo gear! Who could resist swaggering around with salty BVD’s, and a full complement of “weapons of war” strapped to your body? Then there are bivouacs where, after a hard day of standing around in the woods, you sit around a campfire talking shit. Maybe, if you’re lucky, one of the militia members has some acreage where you can waste a couple of hundred dollars praying and spraying ammo in the general direction of a target—it’s all about the noise! The member with the loudest gun wins. And let’s not forget the comradery forged in the fires of Hell as you and your buddies fight off mosquitos during practice night missions while humping the seventy pounds of gear (mostly useless to real guerilla fighters) someone convinced you to purchase.

Brief History

During the 1990s, the media managed to paint the militia movement as a dangerous bunch of kooks. Many will tell you that the bombing of the Murrah building in Oklahoma City was a government-initiated operation to further alienate the public. For many reasons I won’t get into here, I wouldn’t argue with those people.

The Clinton administration was very unpopular, and the last thing they needed was a national uprising. Bill Clinton was cozy with the United Nations. Globalization had reared its ugly head in the form of NAFTA and the World Trade Organization (which followed GATT). I don’t have the space to cover how these organizations crippled the US economy or affected society, so you will have to do some research on your own. Suffice it to say that both Republicans and Democrats in Washington were working together (still are) on the financial demise of our nation and its sovereignty. The Assault Weapons ban was a bi-partisan fear-response to the threat posed by a well-armed civil resistance.

To Be or Not to Be a Militia Member

The first question you have to ask yourself is what you hope to gain by putting a government target on your back, and those in your family. In 1997 I hosted a national militia meeting on my property in Texas; it was a large encampment of militia leaders and members from all over the country. We even made the cover of Time Magazine as a “militia hotspot.” What was the goal of this get-together?

Before I begin, let me tell you a funny story. During our camp set-up, we rented one of those huge blue and white striped tents (urban camo) and enough chairs to fill it. The day before our official agenda began, Channel Eight of Dallas sent a news chopper out to film our camp from the air. Seeing a bunch of people with AK’s slung over their shoulders, the chopper flew a wide circle around the camp–so wide they couldn’t get decent footage. They spent so much time flying this distant arc they ran low on fuel and had to leave. About thirty minutes later they came back, this time cautiously venturing in closer and closer; eventually, the side door opened and their cameraman began filming. I guess they decided we weren’t going to shoot them out of the sky. The point of the story is how the media had bought into their own militia boogeyman narrative.

“They” will set you up

Now back to the purpose of the meeting. Militia leaders were being picked off by the federales via entrapment schemes similar to what happened to Randy Weaver in Idaho. Government informants joined these groups and set up the leaders by doing things such as planting explosive devices (pipe bombs) on militia leader’s property to be “discovered” during federal raids. Other informants acted as instigators (our Texas group had one) prodding leaders and members into taking action that would unnecessarily put the unit in danger (physical and legal), and in a bad light to the public. Some informants got militia members on tape talking about planning illegal activities (this was actually a lot of empty bullshit boasting).

The national meeting acted as a sounding board so that other militia leaders could be informed of the risks they were taking. I also believed that we needed a strong joint public statement about our mission and our intentions. So, we invited the FBI and any law enforcement members who might want to attend—we knew they would find their way in anyway. A local sheriff deputy sat in his car across the road, watching with binoculars; my neighbors kept goading him into going up the hill to our event. He declined. Back then police were taught to be afraid of militia members and mental patients. At least we were in good company.

The negative government public relations campaign didn’t always work. During the national meeting, several families came to the gate with food and encouragement. My rural neighbors supported and encouraged what we were doing. When a Dallas news team gathered, interviewing people off our property, they only found one person (not a local) who said anything negative—guess which interview made the nightly news!

I haven’t seen Clint Eastwood’s movie on Richard Jewel yet, but the Atlanta bomb that Jewel discovered was most likely planted as a false flag. Working as security, Jewel found the package and reported it. He paid the price for screwing up their operation. In a joint personal assault, the federal government and the media tried desperately to paint him as a domestic terrorist. Interestingly, the feds never investigated anyone else for this crime. See the movie.

Who joins the militia?

There were very few militia members with military experience. The ones, like myself, that had experience were Vietnam Vets. If you were around back then you will remember how vets were painted by the media as dangerous, wild-eyed camo-wearing kooks. It seemed that not a month went by without a violent incident involving a veteran. Just as school shootings are now, the media rushed to cover every veteran-involved incident. We were still wearing the scourge of the Vietnam War, and most media types came from the same liberal group that protested the war. Back then, no one knew anything about PTSD, and the VA denied such a malady existed (kind of like Agent Orange). The term “postal” was derived from Vietnam Vet Post Office employees losing it and shooting up the place. Occasionally a VA center would be the target. Eventually, many of these vets got help, but not nearly soon enough for them or their families. I digress.

Most newbie militia members had no experience, and putting these well-intentioned, patriots in a real military-type operation would have been leading lambs to slaughter. A militia leader had to be realistic about his members and their capabilities. If you were lucky you would have at least a sprinkling of country people with firearms and woodland experience. At the time, people were coming in from everywhere because so many were concerned about a government mass round-up of dissenters and/or a societal breakdown where the bad guys could come from anywhere. I personally focused on gun safety, weapons familiarization, and marksmanship. Additionally, we worked on techniques for traveling safely during times of unrest, home defense, and survival.

There was a reason so many people were worried about citizen internment. The plan for FEMA concentration camps was real. Former Congressman Henry B. Gonzales, R, of Texas, publicly admitted their existence and their purpose (contain people during a period of mass unrest). State troopers had been put on alert to be watchful for anyone who might be a militia member. Sheriffs and municipal police across the country were being fed scary bullshit by the FBI, and law enforcement was running around with hair-triggers during traffic stops.

Nothing has changed–for the good

I guess I have spent most of your time talking about how things were “back in the day,” but you can count on the same dynamics this millennium. The government is much more sophisticated in keeping an eye on citizens, and there are thousands more armed government agents. You have to assume that everything you do or say is being monitored by Big Brother. The good news is, if your group stays small and keeps their mouths shut, the feds are unlikely to bother with you. If you are looking for strength in numbers, assume you will have at least one informant in your group.

Cull these members out immediately

Gung-ho members who encourage aggressive illegal actions should be expelled immediately. Now, that may rub some patriots the wrong way, but to do otherwise is to set up your members for potential prison time. Just like in other relationships, everyone is not trustworthy. If you have a member(s) go off the rails and do something stupid, you are all guilty by association. If, on the other hand, you are willing to “take a stand” like they did at the Bundy Ranch in Nevada, just be aware it will be expensive and you risk your lives, family fortunes, and many years behind bars. Only you can know if the price is worth it. Also, be aware that if you have an informant or agitator in your group, your operation may be compromised in advance and your members put at risk, physically.

Here is an article on what happened to members of a Michigan militia.

The FBI planted a secret informant and FBI agent in the militia in 2008 to record the activities of the group. The video and audio recordings became the crux of the federal case, including clips of the elder Stone making anti-government statements and remarks about killing police officers. The defendants all faced a maximum sentence of life in prison. Fortunately, after a very expensive and lengthy trial, most of the members were cleared of all charges. The leader and his son faced weapons charges.

Explosive “experts” (guys who want to show you how to make illegal weapons like pipe bombs, grenades, etc.) should not be allowed in your organization unless you know them really, really, really well—even then you have to worry about other members who might inform on your group. In case you choose to train members on how to manufacture/store illegal explosives or weapons, the risk is great that they will be found and you will be prosecuted. Two militia leaders in South Carolina went to prison when two informants slipped onto their property and planted pipe bombs. The guilty verdict came even though there was testimony from several witnesses, including the informants, that the group had stated repeatedly that it was NOT interested in making explosives or doing anything illegal.

In summary, there are fewer risks in forming your group around like-minded family members and close friends. As you can see from the Michigan Christian militia group–even they were infiltrated. Any stranger brings with them more risks than rewards. A family unit focused on self-protection and survival is your best option. If everyone is trained in survival skills, including marksmanship, and all members are equipped with everything they need, you should be prepared for almost anything coming your way. If society falls apart, or a government, foreign or domestic, imposes itself on the population, your group will have the option of joining with others if you so choose.

With the threat of a “foreign” military (immigrant militias) operating in our country, danger could come from any quarter!

Stay off the ridgeline and keep your powder dry!

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Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
December 29, 2019 7:49 am

Finally, someone that makes sense.

M G
M G
December 29, 2019 7:57 am

This is a Just In Time post. Am linking to uncola’s.

People need to start thinking about the right of Assembly and what “guilt by association” really portends for any of us who are trying to collaborate with like minds.

For instance? When does conversation and collaboration end and collusion begin?

I propose Artificial Intelligence sees them as equally conspiratorial. Humans imagine.

Solutions Are Obvious
Solutions Are Obvious
  M G
December 29, 2019 9:16 am

When a prosecutor can convince a jury to convict a ham sandwich, your questions become moot.

Remember – you have no rights. The Constitution is just a piece of paper. Everything is a privilege when it comes to a contest between you and ‘the man’. Act accordingly or get out of harms way.

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
December 29, 2019 8:17 am

Stay off the ridge line and down in the valley? Chip

RogerP
RogerP
  SmallerGovNow
December 29, 2019 10:35 am

Stay on the military crest. (below the ridge line, where the slope goes from steep to not-so-steep)

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
December 29, 2019 8:28 am

Makes you wonder why so many people who become informants are so loyal to their criminal government. The only explanation I can come up with is that they are authoritarian statists and statism is a cult. They have been unwittingly lured into a cult through the magic hallucinogen of the statist koolaid. What else could explain what would make them prefer totalitarianism instead of standing up for the constitution and the bill of rights?
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Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Vote Harder
December 29, 2019 8:56 am

It’s probably just the money. Most people aren’t deep enough to believe in anything.

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Hardscrabble Farmer
December 29, 2019 9:11 am

Son:

“Dad I’m considering a career in organized crime”.

Dad:

“Government or private sector”?

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Hardscrabble Farmer
December 30, 2019 11:42 am

You can say that again, again!

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Vote Harder
December 29, 2019 10:36 am

Prisoner’s dilemma. If two suspects are arrested and then interrogated separately…..the best outcome is if both suspects say nothing, the best-guaranteed outcome is for one suspect to rat the other suspect out for a lighter sentence…….most folks don’t have the inner strength to hold out and so they side with the lower risk, lighter sanction.

I don’t think there is much value in a militia until there is a need to go kinetic. Networking, protesting and organizing as is occurring in VA is a better strategy. How about joining AmRRON to establish a comms network

Homepage

you never know when it might be useful to have a semi-secure way to communicate. Learn one time pads…..

Every single militia group has informers embedded and as we saw at Malheur, the “gubmint” will force the weaker folks to flip….25% of the people in the standoff were government informers by the end…..

So don’t be that guy or group.

One angle to keep in mind is that government is a learning and adaptive adversary…..dirty war Argentinian style is so last century, how would you respond to MS13 weaponized by the Deep State?

What Happens When A Government Fights A Dirty War On Its Own People?

Vote Harder
Vote Harder
  Martel's Hammer
December 29, 2019 11:16 am

All good stuff MH, but what if the government hits the internet kill switch? What if they kill the power grid via cyberattack or a EMP attack from a foreign adversary defending itself? What if they declare martial law? None of these comms will work. No repeaters for ham, nothing. The only ones with power will be the government.

EO’s:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

Continuity of Government, discontinuity for everyone else.

https://web.archive.org/web/20041010170424/http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

Tactical Zen
Tactical Zen
  Vote Harder
December 29, 2019 11:32 am

In such an event the only way to oppose is to “throw sand in the gears”. Plenty has been written on that subject. It defines asymmetrical warfare and results in tens of millions of innocent deaths. No same person would ever seek such an outcome. Yet, there exists a non-zero chance it might occur. Pray it remains theoretical.

gman
gman
  Tactical Zen
December 29, 2019 3:26 pm

“results in tens of millions of innocent deaths.”

how many deaths does surrender result in?

splurge
splurge
  gman
December 29, 2019 4:42 pm

All of them (us).

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Vote Harder
December 29, 2019 12:21 pm

I am no Ham expert but it does not depend on the internet and can be independently powered easily with a generator…that is kind of the whole point, communication capability with no dependence on the grid or government. Sure you need a Faraday cage to protect the circuits in the equipment from an EMP pulse but that is not a big deal. Communications are a critical building block, Radio Free America for counter-propaganda etc.

Even remote “number” stations, simply broadcasting a series of numbers that have embedded information…….pretty powerful and simple tools.

EC
EC
  Martel's Hammer
December 29, 2019 12:39 pm

Old microwave works in a pinch…

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  EC
December 29, 2019 3:29 pm

While restricted to Line of Sight, short burst encrypted microwave is extremely useful or so I hear…..

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Martel's Hammer
December 29, 2019 11:37 am

MS13 takes no prisoners, just heads. Kinda like Isis.

EC
EC
  Martel's Hammer
December 29, 2019 12:37 pm

Marking this el doggy style for mg 2 see when she gets connectivity!

Interesting link there…any comms in AZ?

Not Paulita (EC)
Not Paulita (EC)
  EC
December 29, 2019 2:25 pm

Paulita (pow lee tah) no thanks to you I hurt the feelings of a dear friend. I seem to have triggered a memory not forgotten of her beloved. It was my speaking lightly of something that reminded her of his romantic pillow talk that long nurtured her torch carrying. I was merely referencing one of the top ten lines men use on their women, not pickup lines, these are meant to prove our love.

“I want a doctor to take your picture so I can look at your from inside as well”

Miles Long
Miles Long
  Not Paulita (EC)
December 29, 2019 5:34 pm

Coyote… that’s a song about jerking off.

Not Paulita (EC)
Not Paulita (EC)
  Miles Long
December 29, 2019 9:11 pm

The repeated lyrical refrain of “I think I’m turning Japanese” was widely believed by Americans to describe an orgasm induced by masturbating,[7] but actually was intended to describe teen angst or alienation after a romantic breakup.[3]

I just wanted that one line. This song is admittedly about whack-a-mole:

Paula
Paula
  Not Paulita (EC)
December 30, 2019 7:48 am

I like cyndi… girls just wanna have fun.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Vote Harder
December 29, 2019 1:47 pm

Most informants have been caught doing something else. The Feds offer them a deal they can’t refuse – become an informant, or get assraped by niggers in prison forever.

Another thing to be leery of: anyone with a criminal past, particularly people who are inexplicably out of prison after a serious felony conviction.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
December 29, 2019 1:54 pm

It’s sort of funny, because the FBI works sort of the same way internally. They have detailed psych profiles on their people, so they know which buttons to press to get them to cross the line. All of this misconduct is carefully documented, so when something comes along that they wouldn’t willingly go along with, the Bureau has them by the balls.

Shinmen Takezo
Shinmen Takezo
  Vote Harder
December 29, 2019 5:06 pm

What they/them do is find someone who is vulnerable, set them up in some manner or catch them in some illegal activity–then make a deal to ‘flip’ them against a larger target.

This is exactly what they tried to pull with Randy Weaver–and he did not go along with the plan.

MrEd
MrEd
  Vote Harder
December 29, 2019 9:45 pm

No, informants generally have some type of criminal charge/s pending, and are making however many “cases” are required for the prosecutor to release them from prosecution.

anarchyst
anarchyst
December 29, 2019 9:17 am

If a militia movement is successful, it WILL be infiltrated by government types. THAT is a given. The best course of action is to keep it small. Family members and relatives are usually trustworthy, but can still be co-opted and entrapped by government types.
Do not publicize your operation. If and when the time comes there will be opportunities to “link up” with others.

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 29, 2019 9:57 am

Like the Boy Scout Motto “Be Prepared”!
Our government as it is are filled with just doing my job minions armed and otherwise and really have no respect for the general population that are forced by a confiscatory tax system that can and will crush any and all citizens that challenge any questionable government actions . As for the bill of rights , it was once an impenetrable shield that American citizens wrapped themselves in to limit and control government . Sadly our so called elected representatives have made end runs around every protection the bill was intended to secure to a point where it is a shield that looks like Swiss cheese .
Our treasury our freedom and the very essence of our once great republic has been eradicated . This was all done by a ruthless cabal . The Circle Jerk Of Wall Street To K-Street To Capitol Street have bought , sold and indebted our Republic . In this intentional treasonous process we who were once free citizens are now indentured servants just as my brother Thomas Jefferson cautioned us as he looked to the future of the great republic he and others risked all to conceive and found .
Forget Me Not

Neuday
Neuday
December 29, 2019 10:41 am

Murderous but chaotic black or messican criminal gangs all over the country? No problem, says ZOG. Dissatisfied whites wearing camo, complaining about the government while target shooting? Shut it down!, says ZOG.

This article simply tells me the balloon isn’t yet up, but ZOG can’t stop what it set into motion. Stay off the ridgeline and keep your powder dry, indeed. Beans, bullets & bandages, too.

Tactical Zen
Tactical Zen
December 29, 2019 11:26 am

Read Edward Snowden’s book “Permanent Record”. There is no need to infiltrate anyone now. They receive all communication 24/7 and can easily monitor any & all participants. One needs to go full analog to avoid such eavesdropping / surveillance. Sounds easy but it is not

M G
M G
  Tactical Zen
December 29, 2019 12:13 pm

And remember to use good decoys. Watch the coyote to get decoy strategy down pat.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Tactical Zen
December 29, 2019 3:36 pm

What do you think that the massive database facility in Utah at Camp Williams is holding?

Every single online key stroke, every email every web search every phone call every movement of the phone (GPS) is stored and effectively becomes a time machine…..so when “Tactical Zen” becomes a person of interest, everything you have ever done or said is now available for review by the AGW’s……take a few comments out of context, mix and match some random phrases into new sentences….hmmmmm you are now a domestic terrorist…..Let’s also not forget the social media sites……(you are the product!) and the nice spy machines at home Alexa et. al….and of course the spy machine you carry with you everywhere….the smartphone! 5G will only enhance and expand the surveillance state to include every IOT enabled device you encounter! Good times.

Paulanon for EC
Paulanon for EC
  Martel's Hammer
December 29, 2019 4:31 pm

You have to be two or more places at once.

Like coy otes! ronounced cow oats.

Not Paulita (EC)
Not Paulita (EC)
  Paulanon for EC
December 29, 2019 4:51 pm

Being two places at once gets old. There’s a better way.

Paula
Paula
  Not Paulita (EC)
December 29, 2019 6:08 pm

Me’n’u and a dog named Boo.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Martel's Hammer
December 29, 2019 9:01 pm

Nothing?

It’s just a boondoggle, another money pit. Probably filled with thousands of empty racks.

Here’s a more likely scenario, if they decide you’re a target, they just manufacture whatever evidence they need and just swear to a judge that it was one your device. They’ve already proved what a massive bunch of lying, conniving shitbags they are, what one Earth makes you think they would actually stoop to real work to find real culprits when they can keep this dog and pony show going with nothing more than fake evidence.

Doubt everything, trust no one.

M G
M G
  Hardscrabble Farmer
December 30, 2019 8:04 am

The financial cost analysis database I was “sysadmin” for was programmed by a nice Mormon guy who flew in to train me on how to update the data and run reports.

Eventually, he taught me enough about the network to be an annoyance to the IT empire.

Mostly, the data is financial. Who owes who how much?

Since my database linked directly to ‘raw’ numbers, I could see how the numbers were “redistributed”.

They keep track of the money. Just not openly. And they manufacture the output data by programming the skimming of the ‘vig’ into the code.

Not the Mormon. He was hired by Pentagon to watch lower level thieves at each repair depot.. It got ugly when I rattled on IT…that is when I started hunting rabbits by logging in as the General and making them try to catch me. I think I introduced doppling to Tinker.

Anyway. There is financial and personnel and materiel(e intended) data which my redrope pal assures me she believes is vital to national security

But her upscale life depends on believing.

M G
M G
  Hardscrabble Farmer
December 30, 2019 8:06 am

Now that was a rant.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
  Tactical Zen
December 29, 2019 8:57 pm

No they don’t and no they can’t.

That’s just another lie, like going to the Moon.

The greatest strength they have is a low IQ, maleducated, gullible population afraid of some Big Brother complex that doesn’t exist. It’s meant to neutralize, pacify and negate any resistance to their third-rate tin-pot shit-show of a country.

It’s bullshit all the way down.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Hardscrabble Farmer
December 29, 2019 9:10 pm

There are countermeasures available but most people are too stupid and unaware. “They” have very limited ability to monitor in real-time but the Utah DataBase is more like a time machine….if someone, for example, Carter Page becomes a target, then everything he has done, said, where he has been is available for review. The gating factor is personnel, which is where the AI algorithms come in….once a flag is created (you go to TBP for example) then you can be “processed” by the AI and float to the top of the pile for review. Big Data is very much a real asset for the government.

In the USSR days even with lots of microphones and thousands of domestic and 100% of international phone lines tapped they didn’t have the bodies or the processing power to really do 1984 effectively. That has changed.

Data warehouses need lots of electricity to power the servers and routers and keep it all air-conditioned…..huge vulnerability.

KaD
KaD
December 29, 2019 11:35 am

A whole bunch of counties and towns pre-emptively declared themselves “Sanctuaries,” which is apparently A-OK if you’re refusing to arrest, jail, and deport illegal alien child rapists, but “treason” if you’re refusing to steal people’s property under color of law. At least according to the Dems.

So, one US Rep Donald McEachin (D-Deep State)(that’s sarcasm, okay?) has proposed having the governor “Nationalize the National Guard” to deal with the problem. (Give him credit. At least he didn’t threaten to use nukes, like a certain former presidential candidate. OTOH, if VA actually had nukes, he might have.)

Let me explain this:

The governor can’t “nationalize” the National Guard. He can call them to state active duty.

Per Posse Commitatus, they can’t engage in law enforcement on Federal orders anyway. On state orders, yes, but, keep reading.

It would also still require a search warrant for every single domicile if they could.

Other than a handful of MPs, none have training for this process. Even if you squint hard at qualifications and add a few others, the actual number of troops qualified to do this is a few HUNDRED at most. The entire VA Army National Guard is about 7500, mostly support.

The National Guard does not keep ammo on hand in any relevant quantities. A small amount for training is it.

Per US Constitution and federal law, the governor CANNOT arm the NATIONAL Guard with federally owned weapons and ammo. He’d have to provide that.

Nor can he arm them without consent of the feds anyway. There are reasons for this. This is one of those reasons.

And the threat to do so is LITERALLY WHY WE HAVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT. Congrats, jerkwad! You’ve actually threatened to have the military repress people, and you’re surprised that they’re going to oppose you? EVERYONE should be opposing you. http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/index.php?itemid=520

M G
M G
  KaD
December 29, 2019 12:16 pm

Good reasoning and valid points but have you seen some of the military equipment in relatively small town police forces?

James
James
  M G
December 29, 2019 12:36 pm

Yes MG,locals are stocked up on some decent gear.I wonder if things go very wrong who they will side with.Those that side with evil against the citizens may find they are fine with numbers and gear but a little unready when they step out their front door alone.

I do agree gunning up the works from the inside one of the best plans,cut the power ect.,well,make sure tis cut off for all.

I am very concerned about the future of this great country despite it’s faults.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  James
December 29, 2019 1:09 pm

County sheriff only elected official that matters.

BB
BB
  James
December 29, 2019 1:36 pm

The United States of America is a bad joke now. Diversity has done its job as planned. I think the best that can happen without mass bloodshed is for some states to go their own way. I am not going to be ruled over by these communist and that is exactly what most of the democrats are. Fuck them and their envy. I will go the damn swamps if I have to but I perfer the Appalachian mountains.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BB
December 29, 2019 2:57 pm

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MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anonymous
December 30, 2019 2:57 pm

You mean they all turn brown?

GoneWest
GoneWest
  KaD
December 29, 2019 5:41 pm

I find it interesting that your first paragraph lays out the case that two groups doing similar things are treated differently. But then you think that because we have laws and a constitution, that is openly ignored on so many levels, that the authorities are going to follow the laws and the constitution.

When things go sideways, there will be no rules. It will be might makes right, law of the jungle, or whatever else you want to call it.

mark
mark
  KaD
December 29, 2019 6:47 pm

That was crackerjack KaD.

One more time…

Shark
Shark
  KaD
December 30, 2019 9:19 am

Even those registered Virginia voters without the balls to do anything else, should sign the recall petition:
https://www.change.org/p/all-virginia-circuit-courts-recall-governor-ralph-northam
There are other petitions, run a search (duckduckgo.com).

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
December 29, 2019 1:11 pm

On the group getting too large and full of informants…

When I was young and growing up in a college town I had several friends that had a part-time job wholesaling lettuce. One rule they universally stuck to was that they would not discuss the lettuce business with any more than they could count on one hand. That is to say if you weren’t among the 5 they trusted they had no idea what you were talking about.

I knew for a fact that a few of them were doing it because other friends were in their 5, but when I asked they denied any knowledge and said “ask (fill in the blank), maybe he knows” While I had no desire to be in the lettuce business I saw the utility of how they did things.

I think the militia movement would be wise to do the same.

gman
gman
  Dirtperson Steve
December 29, 2019 3:35 pm

you don’t understand, because of normalcy bias. when things get serious, the rules will change. if you’re suspected (whether by human observation intuition or by automated algorithm flagging) you’ll be scooped up, no process of law, no lawyer, no habeus corpus, no charge, and no record, and you’ll be warehoused until a human gets around to looking at you. if and when.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
  gman
December 29, 2019 5:13 pm

I do understand quite well. Your IP is tracked right now and logged at NSA in Utah. If the roundup comes maybe we can share stories of the good old days while we are at reducation camp.

There is no anonymity anymore.

gman
gman
  Dirtperson Steve
December 29, 2019 5:36 pm

“If the roundup comes” …

… we can burn later in the camps ….

The wonder of it all
The wonder of it all
December 29, 2019 7:56 pm

Not sure which is more interesting, the article or the comments

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
December 29, 2019 11:47 pm

If I didn’t know you or someone who is vouching for you before the shit hit the fan, I certainly am not going to trust you around me with a loaded gun after. WAY too many people prosper quite well under the current status quo, and are more than happy to sell out and murder their fellow man, simply to maintain the status quo if threatened. They would happily infiltrate, just to keep their chains a link or too longer and food on the table.

Shark
Shark
December 30, 2019 9:26 am

Didn’t plan to buy an AR-15 this year, but I vote with my money (unless things get exciting, then other mechanisms of influence come into play), so Virginia’s Governor “gun-grabber blackface” Northam convinced me to spend it and pick one up. I’m retired USMC, so his little fantasy of sending out the VNG to confiscate the scary black guns – – in a state where there are so many former active duty military and retirees – – REALLY made me laugh! Tell the VNG boys to sign their wills beforehand, guv!

Jdog
Jdog
December 30, 2019 2:39 pm

If you truly are a patriot, and want to make this country better, the road to that goal is education, not armed militias.
Armed militias play right into hand of what the government wants. The government has a huge advantage in any confrontation involving force. Unreasonable force is their stock in trade and a battle they will always win.
The vast majority of people today who are upset with the direction the country is going, really do not even understand who their real enemy is. Before you can fix something, you have to know how the damn thing works to begin with, and most people really don’t.
The reason the people who are implementing a feudal system in this country are winning is because they are able to disguise their actions and motivations and even to enlist the average citizens help in forwarding their agenda.
If common people really understood what was actually happening and why, then the entire scheme would unravel because it requires people to cooperate.
Education of the people is the answer, but it is not something which will be easily accomplished. The misinformation that has been programed into the citizens over the past 100 years is so comprehensive, that it not only influences what you think, but how you think, and your ability to process information.
Information is far more powerful than firearms, and it is a process which once begun begins to replicate itself similar to compounding interest.
If you want to restore liberty to America, the path to that goal is education and information. Once it is clear to the majority the King has no clothes, the rest takes care of itself.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Jdog
December 30, 2019 2:59 pm

Indeed, victory will not last long unless those left understand the dangers of putting the problems back in place as they were before…and that will be the natural tendency. And the Soviet Union fell without a single shot, simply because the people has lost faith in everything the state was about.

Jdog
Jdog
  MrLiberty
December 30, 2019 4:46 pm

Even a small child understands that when the game is rigged, you simply refuse to play and go home.