Understanding Cycles

Guest Post by Martin Armstrong

Society in the West is blocked mentally. The primary distinction remains the assumption that the world is linear, which is completely wrong for it is cyclical. Take global warming. The analysis being applied is absolutely absurd. Scientific methodology is one of unbiased inquiry based upon reason supported by evidence and collective investigation. Global warming has none of that and it is simply propagated as a belief. They refuse to demonstrate how the climate has changed for thousands of years. The latest claim is that the extremely cold winters are also caused by C02 without any evidence to show such historical volatility and Co2. They just make it up and nobody asks to see the proof.

Linear analysis is just so absurd it is hard to see how any intelligent body would use it when the world is not linear in any possible way — we do have seasons! In the study of light, it was assumed in classical linear analysis that an increasingly higher frequency of the electromagnetic wave would cause the universe to simply destroy itself with black body radiation. This is what became known as the ultraviolet catastrophe. Obviously, that has not happened. The reason is the existence of cycles. Energy is not constant. It unfolds in segments Max Planck called “quanta” and we arrive at what is known as threshold energy.

Suffice it to say, this area of understanding cyclical behavior is extremely complex. I simply have called this the “Schema Frequency” upon which all others travel in a piggy-back manner as a derivative of something that defies the notions of real world analysis. It is far deeper in the world of quantum mechanics where it is even possible to have the same thing in two locations simultaneously. I still struggle with trying to figure out a way to articulate this concept.

The energy is linked to the frequency. Consequently, our Energy Model is determined by the frequency and is therefore linked to time. But light acts like a particle and a wave. This duality is by no means restricted to just light. There is duality is cyclical analysis as well.

When you breakdown how we think, you may believe you “think” in words. When you have to speak in a language such as Japanese v Latin-based, some words in Japanese like Onegaishimasu (おねがいします) do not directly translate to a specific English meaning. Conceptually, it can mean anything from “Please, could I have a cup of coffee?” (Kōhī Onegaishimasu) or “Can I use your phone?” (Denwa Onegaishimasu), to a stewardess announcing we are about to take off in an airplane (Onegaishimasu) or “Please do your best,” “Please have a good game,” or “I pray you…”. In other words, it is a “concept” that we have in our mind which is understood but not an English word.

Therefore, the Schema Frequency is complex and it is a concept not easily translated into words. There are two worlds — the classical world we believe we live in and the world of quantum mechanics. When we look at this 2016 penny, the surface appears smooth. When we look at it under a microscope, we see that the surface is not smooth. This illustrates the difference between the two worlds of observation in a crude simplistic manner.

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Patsy
Patsy
December 29, 2019 3:38 pm

Duality of Light? “this one is for Love”

gman
gman
December 29, 2019 4:13 pm

“They just make it up and nobody asks to see the proof.”

actually, lots of people ask to see the proof. it’s just that the only ones pushing the meme, the news/entertainment/social media monopoly/collusion, ignore all questions and act as if they themselves are the only people in the room and that everyone else is just noise.

which, in fact, in truth, in reality, is their actual attitude. “us. just us. only us. in every generation. the nation that will not serve us shall be destroyed.”

M G
M G
  gman
December 30, 2019 7:07 am

Waves also pick up noise.

SeeBee
SeeBee
December 29, 2019 6:13 pm

Most women understand cycles.

gman
gman
  SeeBee
December 29, 2019 6:48 pm
Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  SeeBee
December 30, 2019 4:02 pm

“Most women understand cycles”.

No they don’t. But they do demand a man do something about it.

DinCO
DinCO
  Bookie in Chicago
December 30, 2019 6:37 pm

Sometimes life is EASIER for a man if he realizes that some people have cycles…

Paulita
Paulita
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 6:50 pm

Men need tampon machines too.

DinCO
DinCO
  Paulita
December 30, 2019 8:41 pm

Ohhh, there are some jokes that could be made here, but I’d better not.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  DinCO
January 1, 2020 3:43 am

I dare you.

In fact, I double-dog dare you. (Can’t refuse a double-dog dare)

Oh hell, I’ll do it myself.

Men need tampons so that we will have something to plug our ears with while the women are yacking…

DinCO
DinCO
  Steve C.
January 3, 2020 12:00 pm

I thought that they are used by bartenders to fix a Bloody Mary. [Now, see why I didn’t start?]

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
December 29, 2019 6:16 pm

Let’s start a pool about how deep the ice sheet has to get over New England before Useful Idiots realize Global Warming is a Liberal lie.

gman
gman
  robert h siddell jr
December 29, 2019 6:33 pm

they’ll never “realize”. it’s not about what they know, rather it’s about what they want driving what they believe. whether new england is at 100F or under 100 feet of ice, that won’t change what they want, so it won’t change what they believe.

niebo
niebo
December 29, 2019 7:00 pm

So . . . about that video:

“Planck’s Constant”

“H-bar”

“Can never contain 1, 2, 4 or any number of electron volts that is not an integer-multiple of three.”

“The maths confirm this.”

“K-max”

“Planck-Einstein Relation”

“Scattering”

“Lambda Prime”

“Planck’s constant divided by the product of the speed of light and the mass of whatever the light was striking, which is this case was an electron, times 1 minus cosign of Phi” . . .

. . . where’s my bong?

. . .

. . . blurble blurble blurble. . .

. . .

Wow . . . I didn’t know Planck and Einstein were related ’til just now.

DinCO
DinCO
  niebo
December 30, 2019 1:39 pm

Considering it is only 30 minutes long, it actually does a decent job of explaining the basic concepts of quantum mechanics, upon which semiconductor device physics is based, which, by proof of existence, is a
how you and I are able to communicate by these things called “computers”. Pretty amazing, actually, and we all take it for granted.

It DOES help to be able to conceptualize all of this, and get really small, which is where that bong may help……

niebo
niebo
December 29, 2019 7:08 pm

And IF “scientists speculated endlessly about this duality” then they are still speculating and this video is speculatative.

blurble blurble blurble

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
December 29, 2019 9:26 pm

“I still struggle with trying to figure out a way to articulate this concept.” Try this Martin (BTW – good article thanks), my thought experiment:

Take an A4 piece of paper upon which I place two dots, one at one end and another at the other end. I give you a ruler and ask you to measure the distance between the dots; you find a positive result. I then take the paper and curl it around so the two dots coincide. I say there is no distance between the dots.
Who is right?

Answers on a post card.

Second thought experiment:
Assume that you are a 2 dimensional person, living on a sheet of paper, happily enjoying your A4 environment. I, a 3 dimensional person, come along and draw a pencil line through the middle of your A4 world. The line I have drawn has ‘height’ which is beyond your 2 dimensional world. Therefore, everything over the ‘line’ is totally inaccessible to you. Only a 3 dimensional person can appreciate the impossibility of your world.

I am of course from the planet, Zob, a 4 dimensional world, and I draw lines in your world.

Steve C
Steve C
  Austrian Peter
December 29, 2019 10:41 pm

You mean like this?

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Steve C
December 30, 2019 1:33 am

Hi Steve, glad to have you back! And wherever do you get these things? I thought that one up on my own ! You win the prize; well done and great stuff! But I will keep it as it explains things so wonderfully well.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 7:16 am

Check this one out on the double slit experiment.

I like this one from the movie, “What The Bleep Do We Know” because it includes the role of the observer. That’s usually left out in most videos. I guess it’s taboo.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 8:52 am

Most excellent explanation Steve, many thanks for your further education – I am enjoying the learning curve, but I am not sure if it is linear or logarithmic!

So do we live in the Matrix? What is reality? A friend of mine is a Flat Earther – weird or what:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-u_k5qvsq8

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 9:00 am

A friend of mine is a Flat Earther

We have lots of those here on TBP.

Have you read Michael Talbot’s “The Holographic Universe”?

Not exactly the matrix, but it’s great!

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 9:58 am

No, but it sounds like Hypernormalisation. It’s on BBC iPlayer, great stuff; I will check out “The Holographic Universe”

Cheers

DinCO
DinCO
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 12:00 pm

Tunnel diodes are fun, too. At the quantum level (electron represented as a wave function), due to the uncertainty in position of the electron due to the Heisenberg principle, there is a finite/non-zero probability that the electron will be found on the other side of the very narrow potential barrier. The electron does not have sufficient energy to go OVER the potential barrier, but since the barrier is thin enough, the uncertainty in its position allows it to be found on the other side of the barrier. And, that IS how tunnel diodes work.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 12:14 pm

WOW – I continue to be fascinated, thank DinCO. TBP is a source of amazing wisdom and knowledge.

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 4:04 pm

Okay, now please explain how a pentode works.

DinCO
DinCO
  Bookie in Chicago
December 30, 2019 5:41 pm

THAT I cannot do – before my time, unfortunately. I started with semiconductors in education and work. [Better living through recreational semiconductors] However, Austrian Peter does have experience with “valves”, so he probably could. Just guessing is that a pentode is a vacuum device where the passage of electrons from one grid to another is controlled by other “grids” at different potentials? Maybe? Semiconductors are “more fun” in that not only do they have electrons, but also “holes”, each with their own effective masses depending on where they are in the crystal lattice. Actually, “holes” are nothing more than missing electrons in the allowed states above a certain energy level in the lattice – it’s just that it is easier mathematically to keep track of a few missing electrons than all the electrons that actually exist. Sort of being easier to keep track of a bubble in a hollow tube than all the water molecules that actually do exist. At that scale, both the electrons and holes are treated like wave functions anyway, so do they really exist?

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 1:22 am

Your guess is very good. Pentodes (and tetrodes) claim to fame is their characteristic curve is much improved over the more basic triode and approximates that of silicon junction transistors, therefore less feedback is required in applications where low distortion is desired. Vacuum tubes have lots of special applications-one that amazed me was when a tube engineer I knew designed a simple triode capable of safely switching 15KV at a couple of KHz rates. Plus, the little bugger was about the size of a medium orange-compare that to much larger high voltage tubes such as transmitter tubes.

DinCO
DinCO
  Bookie in Chicago
December 31, 2019 8:24 am

BiC – Thanks for the education. Yes, tubes were before my time, but I know they certainly had high voltage/power applications that couldn’t be touched by using semiconductors. Tube design was an art that is mostly lost today.

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  DinCO
January 1, 2020 4:42 pm

” Tube design was an art that is mostly lost today”.

It was about 35 years ago and I was charged with finding a supplier that could make the high voltage triode mentioned above. The trail quickly lead to India (and only India), as they still relied on lots of tube operated equipment and therefore had a couple of in-country manufacturers that had obtained tube making capability from other countries for a song.

Ran into other supply chain situations later on with opportunists who specialize in trailing edge technology-kind of like the rich kid who goes into the inner city and sees how things really run down there. But, in every case I had to admire the business model each of those opportunists followed. Like the old saying: The richest guy in town is the junk man.

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 11:54 am

If you have not already done so, go read the book “Flatland”. The social satire is wonderful, as is the explanation of the concepts of multi-dimensionalism (is that a word?) and therefore the concept of time. It would seem to me that we use the concept of time to perceive, if you will, the higher dimensions (more than 3) that we are incapable of observing (I’m also stuck in our 3-d world, so I’m not really sure how this works…) – ie, similar to a sphere in the 3-d world moving (in time) through the 2-d world of flatland – the sphere would first appear as a dot, then a circle changing size with time, then going to a dot and then disappearing as it moved out of the plane of flatland. The sphere is not changing in the 3-d world, but appears to “move” through the 2-d world, appearing to change in shape as it does so. Playing with Mobius strips is fun, too, to learn about the topography of one/two sided strips of paper and interlinking loops. Have fun!

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 12:16 pm

Mnay thanks, I shall continue to have fun. And maybe you have seen Prof, John R.R. Searle and his generator?
http://www.searlsolution.com/

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 12:53 pm

Interesting – I had not seen his work. However / also, are you familiar with John Bedini and his work ? I became familiar with Bedini through his audio amplifier designs of the 1970’s – to this day I think his 25/25 amp is unsurpassed. He moved on from audio to other areas -http://www.free-energy.ws/john-bedini

I have not made one of his machines, but they apparently do work, if they are made correctly – he has patents in this area. Unfortunately, he and his brother are dead, so his work has come to an end.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 1:31 pm

Oh dear, your ending was a disappointment! I built my first one-valver receiver when I was 11 in the boot room at boarding school in 1955 from a Wireless World diagram. I went on to build a push-pull, HiFi amp and all sorts of stuff out of old TV sets – great fun. But I missed your man – thanks for the link.

A very interesting read, DinCO. I started out as an apprentice toolmaker in 1963 and my son, Adam, is an electrical engineer – I am sure he would love to know all this and I have emailed him. Many thanks.

Amazing place this TBP.

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 2:21 pm

Yes, all sorts of folks here on TBP. I went into electr engr because I realized I hated organic chem and was mildly curious how those Dynaco amps/preamps/tuners worked that I was building from kits in high school in the early 1970’s (so, yes, I guess I’m just a “kid”). I missed the days of valves, although Macintosh still used them in their amps – didn’t care for the soft bass of a Macintosh – they had to have transformer’d outputs since tubes didn’t like driving the impedance of speakers.. Although, tubes don’t “clip” like transistors do, so tubes had a “softer” sound. I wound up doing semiconductor device physics stuff in EE (hence 30+ yrs doing semiconductor manufacturing) – it all starts with quantum mechanics in describing the mathematics of how semiconductors and semiconductor devices work – it’s all math, mostly 2nd order partial differential equations with specific boundary conditions. Fun stuff.. As is said – all models are wrong, it is just that some are less wrong and more useful than others. Going back – I’m still using a Stax DA-80 amp I picked up in 1982 – pure class A that (after taking classes and learning why it sounds like it does) sounds good since they just brute forced it – really wide bandwidth, with minimal negative feedback so that the transient IM distortion is minimized, quality parts, low noise components, capable of high current output so it really does act like a pure voltage source.. Bedini used a slightly different approach (still class A, though) – he used a filter in the feedback path between the input stage and the output stage to reduce the TIM distortion – I used to have a schematic of his 25/25 amp around here somewhere.. Yup, once a nerd / geek, always one. So it goes.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 2:29 pm

“…If quantum mechanics hasn’t profoundly shocked you, you haven’t understood it yet…” — Niels Bohr

DinCO
DinCO
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 3:44 pm

For Steve C and Austrian Peter – a book I came across decades ago was “Thirty Years That Shook Physics”, by George Gamow. Interesting reading and story by one who was there at the time. Included were photographs of those writing the papers showing that these amazing people were, in some ways, ordinary people that enjoyed riding motorcycles, having picnics, etc.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 3:52 pm

“…A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it…” — Max Plank

“…Science advances funeral by funeral…” — Unknown (A paraphrase of Max Plank)

DinCO
DinCO
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 6:27 pm

Maybe.. I always had the view that science progresses because individuals have new ideas, run experiments, collect data and learn from the results (feeding the results back into the new hypothesis, and around and around it goes). At a prev employer we had a saying – “In God we trust; ALL others MUST bring data”. If there wasn’t data to back up what was said, don’t bother saying it because you’ll be ignored.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 6:37 pm

My mechanical engineering friends are always amazed that I – like you – refer to myself as a nerd.

When someone in mixed company asks me, “How do you know all that?” I answer, “It’s easy. I’m a nerd…”

Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with being a nerd. If I did, I would do something to improve myself…

And I agree that it’s really knowledge for knowledge sake so how about this one?

“…Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it…´— Richard Feynman.

DinCO
DinCO
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 8:38 pm

“When someone in mixed company asks me, “How do you know all that?” I answer, “It’s easy. I’m a nerd…” ” It is probably best to NOT follow with “Doesn’t everyone know this?” A mistake I made for many years (no, not that response above..), was that I presumed I was like everyone and that everyone else DID know what I did. Seriously, why wouldn’t they??

M G
M G
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 8:55 am

Is why we support TBP.

Is the campfire of Farenheit 451.

DinCO
DinCO
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 9:01 pm

“If it weren’t for sex, men and women would have nothing to do with each other” – my older sister.

M G
M G
  Steve C.
December 31, 2019 8:52 am

I see why Paula likes you. You are sneaky funny.

DinCO
DinCO
  M G
December 31, 2019 10:10 am

MG – I’ll try not to get too excited. For all I know, “Paula” is a 250lb transvestite living in his mom’s basement eating chocolate cream filled dunkin donuts for dinner. Or, maybe not. You never can tell.

M G
M G
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 8:50 am

This is a wonderful way to test opinion versus fact, too.

DinCO
DinCO
  M G
December 31, 2019 10:13 am

MG – Yes, it is. “Everyone is entitled to their opinion, no matter how wrong it may be. Even me.” What I find interesting is the really wide range of people that frequent TBP with so many different life experiences. It certainly brings in lots of different perspectives in topics that are outside our own experiences.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 3:57 pm

It’s very nice to chat with you DinCo.

Where are you located?

I’m in Texas and as you can probably tell by Peter’s reference to ‘valves’, he’s in UK.

By the way, if you guys ever need any tubes I still have about 2,000 of them. Mostly still in my old tube caddies.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 5:13 pm

Oh dear, my British accent is showing again!

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 5:46 pm

I think it was the “valves” term that gave it away. Or, maybe just European. Not sure 🙂

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 6:05 pm

Yes, ‘valves’ but I just love the transatlantic way of describing things exactly, ‘tubes’ is really descriptive. We tend to be more covert and less open/in-your-face. Brits find that form of honesty difficult to take!

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 6:44 pm

Yes, it seems that folks in the US are a bit more “blunt”, shall we say. I think it is genetic – we here in the US are descended from those not willing to put up with the status quo (who left Europe), vs those still in Europe whose ancestors were willing to put up with it (and stayed there). Just a hypothesis from the days working for Philips (Semiconductors) and meeting people from there.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 7:13 pm

You are exactly right DinCO, my perception also which is why I value our special relationship. Your ancestors are the winners, whilst I am descended from the Vikings and we all know what they were like!

Actually it’s all Hollywood’s fault, the Vikings were indeed a tough lot but gentle too and excellent farmers and fishermen. Although my surname is Underwood (my father was adopted), my actual blood line is Bartlet (from Sir Bartelot who came over with William the Conqueror in 1066). My genome confirms this and was tested recently.

It is misunderstood here in UK and taught that the French invaded us, but actually it was the Normans (the Northmen) from Normandy which was colonised by the Vikings in 850AD. Of course they spoke a form of French which became the language of our rulers from then on.

Great history we have, keeps me transfixed for hours on end and lots of reading!

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 7:19 pm

Like this?

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Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 7:34 pm

:-)))) exactly Steve, good one, wherever do you get all this stuff?

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 7:39 pm

It’s easy. I’m a nerd…

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 8:02 pm

OH, that’s OK, I’m beginning to think I might join you!
See the happy moron, he doesn’t give a damn
I wish I was a moron, my God, perhaps I am!

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 8:51 pm

Interesting family history, AP. I’m half Dutch, which one might think would have helped when I worked for Philips (here in the US), but no. One of their sayings was “If you ain’t Dutch, you ain’t much”, which just annoyed me. Heck, most peoples of Europe fought wars to steal land from their neighbors, but the Dutch apparently found it easier to steal the land from the ocean. Not sure what that says about them……..

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 1:34 am

Well DinCO, here’s another twist; my wife is South African (we met when I was in Cape Town at the turn of the century), she speaks Afrikaans which is great fun because they call it ‘Kitchen Dutch’ from the original pioneers in the Cape.

South Africans have a culture so much like the Americans; the Boers (farmers) are so red neck Texans, same nationalism, same gung-ho attitude, they are lovely people and such a shame that the place has gone to isht in one generation.

My wife thought your Dutch saying was so funny because it is so Afrikaans, they would say similar. We always flew KLM and when the Dutch subtitles came up on the films, she found that she understood the language easily – it was a surprise, and she is good with German too. (not sure about the Germans though), like you say, Europe is full of tribes all beating each other to death – literally.

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 31, 2019 9:27 am

AP – I was told years ago that I have relatives in South Africa; don’t know for sure. We vacationed to Europe a few years ago – my high school German sufficed for our time in Germany and Dutch is just close enough to German but different enough that traveling in the Netherlands was frustrating. Plus, I’d been there for work a few times, so it wasn’t new. If I want to see tulips, we could just go to Iowa here in the US, which is where many Dutch people settled shortly after 1900.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 10:40 am

With your Dutch connections DinCO I am not surprised that you may have relatives in South Africa – there are many descendants of the Dutch people there and of course they form the core of the Boers.

You’re right about the tulips, like South Africa, USA is so big that you have almost every country in the world to experience without ever leaving America. My wife says the same about South Africa from skiing in the Drakensberg mountains to red hot beaches both on the Indian and Atlantic oceans. Pity about the security though.

We have travelled extensively throughout the country over the ten years we lived there – great times and fabulous memories.

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 1:48 am

Did you work at the old Sig plant in Alby?

DinCO
DinCO
  Bookie in Chicago
December 31, 2019 8:19 am

BiC – Yes, from 1984 till they closed the doors in 2003. Did dry etch, technology development, process integration/transfers, device/process modelling/simulation work, yield analysis/improvement, customer interface, electrical failure analysis – a true jack of all trades. Had lots of “tribal knowledge” of technologies/products CMOS/Bipolar/BiCMOS – all is now ancient history. Such is life.

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 11:20 pm

Toured your facility ~ 1987. Sounds like you were blessed with enough challenges and did not get bored.

My favorite Sig part was-of course-the 555 timer. Simple to use in all kinds of interesting ways. Favorite Fairchild part was the 741 op amp-again a reliable part that was a workhorse. Favorite RCA part was a CMOS johnson up/down counter. Cannot remember the number for GE’s UJT-all kinds of fun applications for that little sucker. Favorite Analog Devices was a quadrature oscillator, yadda, yadda. 2N3904/06, 2N3055, 1N914-all good, simple, and reliable building blocks…….ancient history, different times, another life. Back when the good old days really were good.

DinCO
DinCO
  Bookie in Chicago
January 3, 2020 12:03 pm

Yes, all ancient history now.

DinCO
DinCO
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 6:03 pm

Steve – Well, name starts with “D” and I live in Colorado. Get it? Lived 50 yrs in Albuquerque, grew up there(well, got older anyway), went to school there, worked various places there and in 2016 had reached my quota of fun, quit work and moved to south central rural Colorado. If you have vacationed around Wolf Creek, you know the area. Ditto enjoying the “chatting”.

Paulita
Paulita
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 6:55 pm

Stick around Din Corp!

You are interesting and polite. Steer clear of EC

DinCO
DinCO
  Paulita
December 30, 2019 7:09 pm

Funny, and thanks for the advice. I’ve been a “lurker” here on TBP for a long time (INTJs are like that), so I’ve seen (and sometimes been amused by) some of the shit-throwing that goes on. Quinn has a good site here with an interesting mix of folks that contribute and comment.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 5:12 pm

You are a source of continued wonder DinCO

Paulita scorned again!
Paulita scorned again!
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 8:47 am

I take that as a personal insult. I am as smart as Captain Kanga! Lots of us can read books about theoretical science.

We just usually do not.

DinCO
DinCO
  Paulita scorned again!
December 31, 2019 10:26 am

PSA! – same here, actually. I gave up semiconductors years ago. It seems that my brain is filled with useless crap that burbles out occasionally. I actually always preferred Edward Abbey and Ayn Rand, but that is another rabbit hole..

M G
M G
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 10:49 am

So are you in the Objectivism rabbit hole?

(A comment to had earlier)

DinCO
DinCO
  M G
December 31, 2019 11:13 am

Sometimes. Some of her perspectives have served me well, especially the “Contradictions cannot exist…” and the overall producers vs non-producers of the world. Looking back, I accidentally “went Galt” back in 2006 when I left Intel to go to companies/entities that relied on gov’t funding, where people wondered each year how MUCH of a raise they were getting vs whether or not they’d even HAVE a job tomorrow when they walked in the front door. There were some brutal times in the semi industry, but that is life. But, I prefer wandering around Canyonlands of Utah – it fits the “I” part of the INTJ very nicely.

M G
M G
  DinCO
January 2, 2020 12:09 pm

My husband and I actually looked at a ten acre piece of ground with a cabin (already built) this past summer located between Deadwood and Mount Rushmore about ten miles off the beaten path.

The mountain getaway was secluded, but after we realized how close the seasonal rubberneckers would be every summer, we decided to pass on that second home opportunity. (those sorts of plots do not come open often)

Our place here is still secluded, though we do see more and more building of both “single-residence” homes AND acreages turned into long-term hunting cabin spots. Many people purchase little sheds for a couple thousand dollars and live in them, at least part time. Make fun of these hill people if you will, but they can survive a lot of stuff I don’t want to try to survive again. (Been there, done that.)

niebo
niebo
  DinCO
January 2, 2020 12:01 pm

Way OT, but, along with a fellow named Ralph Alpher, Gamow formally introduced the concept of the “expanding universe” in 1948. . . .

https://cosmology.carnegiescience.edu/timeline/1948

M G
M G
  Steve C.
December 31, 2019 8:44 am

Trying shocked me.

DinCO
DinCO
  M G
December 31, 2019 10:32 am

MG – so did sticking that letter opener in the electrical outlet when I was 2. Then I learned to read. Turns out that was safer.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 5:20 pm

Phew, I see what you mean, you clearly are way ahead of me DinCO; I left electronics behind when transistors came on the scene and my poor eyesight was unable to accommodate the little blighters and they didn’t light up. I ended up as an accountant and systems analyst via computing in the 1970s when I met Xerox.

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 5:57 pm

With transistors, if the “little blighters” light up, something has seriously gone wrong! Back in high school, a friend was putting together an Eico kit and didn’t yet realize the importance of polarity for electrolytic capacitors. It was sort of funny watching one launching itself against the far wall when he first turned it on. Steep learning curve, I’d say!

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 6:02 pm

Yep, lots of catches :-))

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 11:25 pm

Still have-and use-my EICO battery eliminator. Paid the extra 10 bucks to get the premium model (had a larger output ‘lytic that gave lower ripple). Like me, it is limping but still comes on when I need it.

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  Austrian Peter
December 31, 2019 11:23 pm

AP, any thoughts about XRX wanting to buy HPQ?

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Bookie in Chicago
January 1, 2020 1:08 am

Good question BinC, thank you. All uncertain at present. I just love my old company but that was in Xerox heydays , things have changed since the 1970s. But a merger, rather than a hostile takeover would be a better choice although HP is a reluctant bride.

Clearly as Carl Icahn says, it’s a no-brainer and I do agree. Although it would lever up Xerox which is itself highly geared; they would have the momentum of a profitable HP and maybe save $2bn on costs over time.

Consolidation in the print/document business is needed so I do hope they can get a deal together – market cap of the marriage would be positive, the market will like it it if goes through IMO. There’s a one month window to get the HP board in place and Carl et al will do all they can to get friendly teams on board (forgive pun).

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  Austrian Peter
January 1, 2020 5:18 pm

AP, I used to stay on top of things like this, but have toned my interest down several notches. I remember when Carly Fiorona at HP was spurned by Accenture and a year later went for “a merger of equals” with
Compaq. One writer mentioned that was like two garbage trucks colliding in an intersection. I think CPQ did bring some expertise to the deal, though never was convinced how much value came of it.

Whenever I hear that Carl is involved in something I shutter, especially when it involves companies that have a rich past and were leaders in their field. His motives seldom seem to be for the long term good of the market, the company, the customers, and the employees. If you ever knew anything about his lust for TWA you would understand.

Antidote: worked in a 3 building complex that had mostly XRX copiers. The big mama in the self service copy center was awe inspiring, and it seldom was out of service (or, as the cynic would say: broken). Anyway, once in a blue moon virtually all of the XRX copiers within a quarter mile would be broken; what to do? Well, one department had a little Savin (I have no idea how it was snuck into the building), and that little puppy never failed to come through; it did not have many bells and whistles, so I guess that may be why it always worked.

HPQ had a good ride, though seems ready to go on life support. The other HP-HPE-seems like a candidate for unhappy times sometime in the future, but for now they are continuing to operate as an also-ran in their field. Much of the original HP is now Keysight Technologies (KEYS) and their stock has had a good run lately. Its predecessor, Agilent (A) apparently decided it wanted to go off in a different direction so they threw the original product line out into the street, and that is what became KEYS. Very similar to how HP threw A out into the street.

Trivia: Who owned the site where Apple’s new, futuristic campus in Cupertino is located? None other than what is now HP Enterprise (HPE).

If you are interested, a fun book about Silicon Valley (lots of interesting pictures):

111 places in Silicon Valley that you must not miss / Floriana Petersen ; photographs by Steve Werney

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Bookie in Chicago
January 1, 2020 5:46 pm

Thanks very much for all this BinC, you clearly know a lot more information about these companies and the history is interesting. I lost touch with Xerox in 1995 when I retired from my company which had been supported by them from its founding in the mid eighties. Long story!

Anyway, it’s good to chat and have a great New Year and let’s hope it proves beneficial for all.

M G
M G
  DinCO
December 31, 2019 8:43 am

Please stick around.

I worked with Old Style Klystron Amps engineered by Westinghouse specifically for AWACS.

You speak an ancient electronic dialect.

I may need help with mobile antenna setup.

DinCO
DinCO
  M G
December 31, 2019 11:24 am

MG – re: mobile antenna – I recently worked with someone in Abq that did that as a hobby – mobile shortwave radio contests, etc. Perhaps you know him? – initials BD; just retired from SNL.. ? Not sure how to get his contact info to you without entire world knowing also….

M G
M G
  DinCO
January 1, 2020 6:27 am

[email protected] reaches me when it is not raining in Missouri bootheel.

DinCO
DinCO
  M G
January 3, 2020 8:06 pm

Thx, will forward your contact info and explain situation.

Bookie in Chicago
Bookie in Chicago
  M G
December 31, 2019 11:37 pm

Best advice I ever had many years ago for mobile was mount the antenna in the center of the rooftop (unless a convertible!). Many people used go with a bumper mount back when bumpers were metal. Not sure what works best today. Will a fractal antenna work for you?

Ever think about changing your handle to M K (Miss Klystron)?

M G
M G
  Bookie in Chicago
January 1, 2020 5:48 pm

When I was on USAF active duty, I ended up flying during an exercise that happened to have a really poor HVPS and one by one, we lost both Klystrons and, as you might imagine, those humongous tubes were not an easy repair.

So, over the two week exercise, we lost Four Klystrons ($$$ to Westinghouse) because of the power fluctuation but no one realized that until the power flux caused arcing that spliced the 400KVA line.

My name then, to the radar maintenance shop, became Miss Big White Parts.

Am positive they were referencing the Klystron Amplifiers they changed all week long for me in Germany. On the last day, I bought the maintenance team a keg.

There may or may not have been Wet T-shirts.

Paulita
Paulita
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 6:53 pm

There was a post here about flatland. The big nasty fight was ongoing so no one read or got it…lemme look.

Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Paulita
December 30, 2019 7:17 pm

Thanks Paulita, I will take a look, sounds fun.

DinCO
DinCO
  Paulita
December 30, 2019 7:58 pm

Thx, Paulita. Will go look. Here is the wiki link describing it – AP should really enjoy it as its main theme is a satire on English society of the late 1800s. I enjoyed it more for the thought provoking description of multi-dimensional reality. Pretty far ahead of his time, for the 1880’s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland

DinCO
DinCO
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 12:11 pm

Who is right? It depends if our 3-d world is “flat” or not. In our “flat” world, the sum of the angles in a triangle is 180 degrees, yes? If our world is actually curved (as space seems to be and how we experience “gravity” (the existence of mass defines the warped space around it and creates gravity, yes?) ) as on the surface of a sphere, then the sum of the angles on the triangle will be more than 180 degrees. So, it depends. BTW, I’d guess lots of science fiction has been written regarding space travel regarding warping space so that two distant locations become close enough together to allow travel through space without taking so much time to do so. I don’t recall such books, but I’d guess that concept has been incorporated into space travel books sometime in the past by somebody.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  DinCO
December 30, 2019 12:27 pm

Yes and Yes. You are talking spherical trigonometry, used in navigation (I did astro):

Spherical Trigonometry

Yes, there are many books on warping space, viz Star Trek et al. Worm Holes are the current postulation but likely involve a multi-dimensional universe which is not out of the way yet.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 12:52 pm

By folding that piece of paper you make the distance shorter between the two points.

You don’t have to go faster than the speed of light. You just get there faster than light does without the fold.

DinCO
DinCO
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 1:12 pm

Fun thoughts. If reality is constrained by remaining on the surface of the paper, the distance has not changed between the two points. The distance is only “shorter” because another dimension has been allowed (that does exist in our 3-d world) by folding the 2-d world in our 3-d reality. Now extrapolate to more dimensions by folding our 3-d world into ???, I don’t know.. Apparently my little pea-brain isn’t capable of figuring it out past the initial concepts of how this would work.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 1:15 pm

Not sure I followed that Steve, the idea was to explain the warping of space but perhaps the speed of light does come into it? In quantum, assuming that light is actually information, then info travels faster than the speed of light, apparently. This book contains some amazing statistics:

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Austrian Peter
December 30, 2019 1:34 pm

If you put two points on a flat sheet of paper, then fold the paper in half between them, then fold it the opposite direction at each of the points, you can connect those two points.

If you imagine that you are traveling between them, the distance folded is short so traveling at a constant speed you will arrive at those points faster when folded than you will with the paper laid back out.

If light were traveling between those two points than light itself would be arriving faster when folded than it would traveling the full distance laid out.

Hence the conclusion that you don’t have to travel faster than the speed of light. You just get there before light does (laid out).

Whew, I need a martoonie after that…

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Steve C.
December 30, 2019 5:16 pm

Right, I get the drift now, thanks Steve, a very interesting way of looking at the problem.

KaD
KaD
December 29, 2019 10:34 pm

Europe’s past is actually a single genetic whole, even if it was created by a continuous flow over millennia. This discovery is bound to cause consternation among those who quite falsely argue that European history has always been “mixed,” racially-speaking.

Instead of separate groups colliding and occasionally mingling, there was actually a single, genetically similar population sprawling across the continent, from Russia to the Middle East to northern Europe.

“Rather than separate populations moving into each other’s’ areas and having sex with each other,” he says, “there was a single ‘meta-population’ having sex—or exchanging genes—in a complex and heterogeneous way.”

Groundbreaking Study of Ancient DNA Reveals Genetic Commonality to Modern Europeans

Brain Drain
Brain Drain
December 30, 2019 12:03 am

Most people operate in linear fashion because they usually are not challenged enough to go beyond that mode; sort of like 2 dimensional thinkers.

A few people think in more advanced fashion,say as in complex numbers where there is a real part and an imaginary part that can describe the a more advanced problem; compare that to 3 dimensional thinkers.

Very few people-on par with an Albert Einstein-think in transformational ways and often use esoteric mathematics to communicate their thoughts, both to themselves and those few peers who can understand; those are the few 4 dimensional thinkers.

I automated a factory with mostly linear thinking-not that stuff like complex mathematical transforms and such were not valid, they just were not needed-linear worked just fine.

A lot of what Armstrong says here is bull shit.

M G
M G
  Brain Drain
December 30, 2019 7:09 am

I think Marty is impaired regarding wave analysis.

DinCO
DinCO
  Brain Drain
December 30, 2019 6:54 pm

Maybe, maybe not. Check your assumptions? He didn’t make the video, and are you familiar with his work?

Home

M G
M G
December 30, 2019 7:06 am

Come on Martin…you can do much better.

What are harmonics?

Brain Drain
Brain Drain
  M G
December 30, 2019 4:10 pm

He filtered them out, luckily before staring for hours into the monochromatic laser light.