U.S in the Middle-East: Preparing for Disaster

Submitted by CCRider

Guest Post by The Saker

Lies, damn lies and statistics

Turns out that Trump and the Pentagon were lying. Again. This time about the true impact of the Iranian counter-strike on US forces in Syria. First they claimed that there were no injured U.S. personnel, only to eventually have to fess up that 34 soldiers had suffered traumatic brain injury (which Trump “re-classified” as a “headache”). Then they had to admit that it was not really 34, but actually 50!

According to some sources, not all U.S. personnel were hiding in bunkers and some were deployed to defend the base perimeter. Whatever may be the case, this adds yet another indication that the Iranian counter-strike was much more robust than originally reported by the Empire. In fact, Iranian sources indicate that following the strike, a number of wounded casualties were flown to Israel, Kuwait and Germany. Again, we will probably never find out the full truth about what happened that night, but two things are now certain:

  1. The Iranian attack was extremely effective and it is undeniable that all the US/NATO/Israeli forces in the region are now exposed like sitting ducks waiting for the next Iranian strike.
  2. Uncle Shmuel has had to dramatically under-report the real extent and nature of the Iranian counter-strike.

Now, let’s be clear about the quality of the warning the U.S. personnel had. We now know at the very least the following warnings were received:

  1. Warning through the Iraqi government (whom the Iranians did brief about their intentions).
  2. Warning through the Swiss authorities (who represent U.S. interests in Iran and whom the Iranian did brief about their intentions).
  3. Warning through the US reconnaissance/intelligence capabilities on the ground, air and space.

And yet, in spite of these almost ideal conditions (from the point of view of defense), we now see that not a single Iranian missile was intercepted, that the missiles all landed with very high accuracy, that the U.S. base itself suffered extensive damage (including destroyed helicopters and drones) and that there were scores of injured personnel (see this article for a detailed discussion of the post-attack imagery).

If we look at this strike as primarily a “proof of concept” operation, then it becomes pretty clear that on the Iranian side what was proven was a superb degree of accuracy and robust ballistic missile capability, whereas on the U.S. side the only thing this strike did was to prove that the U.S. forces in the region are all extremely vulnerable to Iranian missile attack. Just imagine if the Iranians had wanted to maximize U.S. casualties and if they had given no warning of any kind – what would the tally be then?! What if the Iranians had targeted, say, fuel and ammo dumps, buildings where U.S. personnel lived, industrial facilities (including CENTCOM’s key logistic nodes), ports or even airfields? Can you imagine the kind of hell the Iranians would have unleashed against basically unprotected facilities?!

Still dubious?

Then ask yourself why Trump & Co. had to lie and minimize the real scope of the Iranian attack. It is pretty obvious that the White House decided to lie and to present the strike as almost without impact because if it had admitted the magnitude of the strike, then it would also have had to admit to the total powerlessness to stop or even to meaningfully degrade it. Not only that, but an outraged U.S. public (most Americans still believe the traditional propaganda line about “The Greatest Military Force in the History of the Galaxy”!) would have demanded a retaliatory counter-counter-strike against Iran, which would have triggered an immediate Iranian attack on Israel which, in turn, would have plunged the entire region into a massive war which the U.S. had no stomach for.

Contrast that with the Iranian claims which, if anything, possibly exaggerated the impact of the strike and claimed that 80 servicemen were injured (I would add here that, at least so far, the Iranian government has been far more candid and less inclined to resort to crude lies than the U.S. has). Clearly the Iranians were ready for exactly the kind of further escalation that the U.S. wanted to avoid at almost any cost.

So what really took place?

There are two basic ways to defend against an attack: denial and punishment. Denial is what the Syrians have been doing against the U.S. and Israel every time they shoot down incoming missiles. Denial is ideal because it minimizes your own casualties while not necessarily going up the “escalation scale”. In contrast, punishment is when you don’t prevent an attack, but when you inflict retaliatory counter-strike on the attacking side, but only after being attacked yourself. That is what the US could do against Iran, at pretty much at any time (yes, contrary to some wholly unrealistic claims, Iranian air defenses cannot prevent the US armed forces from inflicting immense damage upon Iran, its population and infrastructure).

The problem with punishing Iran is you are dealing with an enemy who is actually willing to absorb immense losses as long as these losses eventually lead to victory. How do you deter somebody who is willing to die for his country, people or faith?

There is no doubt in my mind that the Iranians, who are superb analysts, are fully aware of the damage that the U.S. can inflict. The key factor here is that they also realize that once the U.S. unleashes its missiles and bombers and once they destroy many (if not all) of their targets, they will have nothing else left to try to contain Iran with.

Here is how you can think of the Iranian strategy:

  • If the U.S. does nothing or only engages in symbolic strikes (say, like Israel’s strikes in Syria), the Iranians can simply ignore these attacks because while they are very effective in giving the Americans (or the Israelis) an illusion of power, they really fail to achieve anything militarily significant.
  • If the U.S. finally decides to strike Iran hard, it will exhaust its “punishment card” in that counter-attack, and will have no further options to deter Iran.
  • If the U.S. (or Israel) decides to use nuclear weapons, then such an attack will simply give a “political joker card” to Iran saying in essence “now you are justified in whatever retaliation you can think of”. And you can be darn sure that the Iranian will come up with all sorts of most painful forms of retaliation!

You can think of the current US posture as “binary”: it is either “all off” or “all on”. Not by choice, of course, but these conditions are the result of the geostrategic realities of the Middle-East and from the many asymmetries between the two sides:

Country US Iran
Air superiority yes no
Combat capable ground forces no yes
Willingness to incur major losses no yes
Short and secure supply lines no yes
Prepared for major defensive operations no yes

The above is, of course, a simplification, yet it is also fundamentally true. And the reason for these asymmetries lies in a very simple yet crucial difference: Americans have been brainwashed into believing that major wars can be won on the cheap. Iranians have no such illusions (most certainly not after Iraq, backed by the US, the USSR and Europe, attacked Iran and inflicted immense destruction on the Iranian society). But the era of “wars on the cheap” is now long over.

Furthermore, Iranians also know that U.S. air superiority alone will not magically result in a U.S. victory. Finally, the Iranians have had 40 years to prepare for a U.S. attack. The U.S. has only really been put on notice since January 8th of this year.

Again, for the US, it is “all in” or “all out”. We saw the “all out” in the days following the Iranian counter-strike and we can get an idea of what the “all in” would look like by recalling the Israeli operations against Hezbollah in 2006.

The Iranians, however, have a much more gradual escalatory capability, which they just demonstrated with their attack on the U.S. forces in Iraq: they can launch only a few missiles, or they can launch hundreds of them. They can try to maximize U.S. casualties, or they can decide to go after CENTCOM’s infrastructure. They can chose to strike Uncle Shumel directly, or they can decide to strike his allies (KSA) and bosses (Israel). They can chose to take credit for any action, or they can hide behind what the CIA calls plausible deniability.

So while the U.S. and the AngloZionist Empire as a whole are much more powerful than Iran, Iran has skillfully developed methods and means which allow it to be in control of what military analysts call the “escalation dominance”.

Has Iran just “ledeened” the almighty US?

Remember Michael Ledeen? He is the Neocon who came up with this historical aphorism: “Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business“.

Is it not ironic that Iran did exactly that, they took the US and “threw it against a wall, just to show that they meant business”, did they not?

And what does this all tell us?

For one thing, the U.S. military is in real trouble. It is pretty obvious that U.S. air defenses are hopelessly ineffective: we saw their “performance” in Saudi Arabia against the Houthi strikes. The truth is that the Patriot missiles never performed adequately, not in the first Gulf War, nor today. The big difference is that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq did not have any high-precision missiles and that its attempts to strike at the U.S. (or Israel, for that matter) where not very effective. Thus, it was easy for the Pentagon to fudge the real performance (or lack thereof!) of its weapon systems. Now that Iran has been able to pinpoint some buildings while carefully ignoring others shows that the entire Middle-East has entered a radically new era.

Second, it is equally obvious that U.S. bases in the Middle-East are very vulnerable to ballistic and cruise missile attacks. Air defenses are a very complicated and high-tech branch of the military and it often takes years, if not decades, to develop a truly effective air defense system. Due in part to its tendency to only attack weak and lightly-defended countries, and also due to the very real deterrent might the U.S. armed forces used to deliver in the past, the U.S. never had to really worry much about air defenses. The “little guys” had no missiles, while the “big guys” would never dare to openly strike at Uncle Shmuel’s forces.

Until recently.

Now, it is the previously almighty World Hegemon which has been tossed against a wall by a much weaker Iran and thus found itself being treated like a “small crappy little country”.

Sweet irony!

But there is much more to this story.

The real Iranian goal: to get the U.S. out of the Middle-East

The Iranians (and many Iranian allies in the region) have made it clear that the real retaliation for the murder of General Soleimani would be to bring about a complete withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq and Syria primarily, followed by a complete withdrawal from the entire Middle-East.

How likely is such an outcome?

Right now, I would say that the chances of that truly happening are microscopically small. After all, who could seriously imagine the U.S. leaving either Saudi Arabia or Israel? Ain’t gonna happen short of a true cataclysm.

What about countries like Turkey or Pakistan which are formally allies of the US but which are also showing clear signs of being mighty fed-up with the kind of “patronage” the US likes to mete out to its “allies”? Do we have any reason to believe that these countries will ever officially demand that Uncle Shmuel’s mercenaries (because that is what U.S. forces are, paid invaders) get the hell out?

And then there are countries like Iraq or Afghanistan which have hosted a very successful and active anti-U.S. insurgency which has kept U.S. forces hunkered down in heavily fortified bases. I don’t think there is anybody mentally sane out there who could offer a even semi-credible scenario of what a U.S. “victory” would look like in these countries. The fact that the U.S. stayed in Afghanistan even longer than the Soviets did shows not only that the Soviet forces were far more effective (and popular) than their U.S. counterparts, but also that Gorbachev’s Politburo was more in touch with reality than Trump’s NSC.

Whatever may be the case, I believe it is undeniable that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are lost and than no amount of grandstanding will change this outcome. The same goes for Syria where the U.S. is basically holding on out of sheer stubbornness and a total inability to admit defeat.

Uncle Shmuel’s “vision of peace” for the Middle-East

Zionist Apartheid combined with a typically illegal land grab in violation of hundreds of UNSC resolutions. And they call that a “Vision for Peace”.
Zionist Apartheid combined with a typically illegal land grab in violation of hundreds of UNSC resolutions. And they call that a “Vision for Peace”.

I just listened to the Idiot-in-Chief proudly present “his” Middle-East “peace” plan to Bibi Netanyahu and the world. This latest stunt shows two crucial things about the mind-set in Washington, D.C.:

  1. There is nothing which the U.S. ruling classes will not do to try to get the favor and support of the Israel Lobby.
  2. The US does not care, not even marginally, what the people of the Middle-East think.

This dynamic, which is not anything new, but which received a qualitative “shot of steroids” under Trump, will only further contribute to the inevitable collapse of Empire in the Middle-East. For one thing, all the so-called “U.S. allies” in the region understand that the only country which matters to the US is Israel, and that all the others count for almost nothing. Furthermore, all the rulers of the Middle-East now also know that being allied to the US also means being a cheap prostitute for Israel which, in turn, is guaranteed political suicide for any politician not wise enough to smell the trap. Finally, the wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Lebanon and Syria have shown that the “Axis of Kindness” is long on hyperbole and hubris, but very short in terms of actual combat capability.

The simple truth is that the abject brown-nosing of the Israel Lobby that Trump has been engaged in from Day 1 of his term only serves to further isolate and weaken the U.S. in the Middle-East (and beyond, really!).

In this context, how realistic is the Iranian goal of kicking Uncle Shmuel out of the region?

As I said, not realistic at all, if seen solely in the short term. But I hasten to add that it is very realistic in the mid-term if we look at some, but not all, the countries of the region. Finally, in the long term, it is not only realistic, it is inevitable, even if the Iranians themselves don’t do much, or anything at all, to make that happen.

These grinning ignoramuses are doing more than anyone else to bring down the Empire, even if they don’t understand this!
These grinning ignoramuses are doing more than anyone else to bring down the Empire, even if they don’t understand this!

Conclusion: “Israel’s” days are numbered

The Israelis have been feeding us all a steady diet about this or that country or politician being a “new Hitler’ who will either gas 6M Jews “again”, or wants to wipe Israel “off the map” or even engage in a new Holocaust. Gilad Atzmon brilliantly calls this mental disorder “pre-traumatic stress disorder”, and he is spot on. The Israelis mostly used this “preemptive geschrei*” as a way to squeeze out as many concessions (and money) from the western goyim as possible. But in a deep sense, it is possibly that the Israelis are at least dimly aware that their entire project is simply not viable, that you cannot ensure the survival of any state by terrorizing all of your neighbors. Violence, especially vicious, rabid, violence can, indeed, terrorize people, but only for so long. Sooner or later, the human soul will outgrow any fear, no matter how visceral, and will replace that fear by a new and immensely powerful sense of determination.

Here is what Robert Fisk said in distant 2006, 14 years ago:

You heard Sharon, before he suffered his massive stroke, he used this phrase in the Knesset, you know, “The Palestinians must feel pain.” This was during one of the intifadas. The idea that if you continue to beat and beat and beat the Arabs, they will submit, that eventually they’ll go on their knees and give you what you want. And this is totally, utterly self-delusional, because it doesn’t apply anymore. It used to apply 30 years ago, when I first arrived in the Middle East. If the Israelis crossed the Lebanese border, the Palestinians jumped in their cars and drove to Beirut and went to the cinema. Now when the Israelis cross the Lebanese border, the Hezbollah jump in their cars in Beirut and race to the south to join battle with them. But the key thing now is that Arabs are not afraid any more. Their leaders are afraid, the Mubaraks of this world, the president of Egypt, King Abdullah II of Jordan. They’re afraid. They shake and tremble in their golden mosques, because they were supported by us. But the people are no longer afraid.

What was true only for some Arabs in 2006, has now become true for most (maybe even all?) Arabs in 2020. As for the Iranians, they have never had any fear of Uncle Shmuel, they are the ones who “injected” the newly created Hezbollah with this qualitatively new kind of “special courage” (which is the Shia ethos, really!) when this movement was founded.

Empires can survive many things, but once they are not feared anymore, then their end is near. The Iranian strike proved a fundamental new reality to the rest of the world: the US is much more afraid of Iran than Iran is afraid of the US. U.S. rulers and politicians will, of course, claim otherwise. But that futile effort to re-shape reality is now doomed to failure, if only because even the Houthis can now openly and successfully defy the combined might of the “Axis of Kindness”.

You can think of U.S. and Israeli leaders as the orchestra on the Titanic: they play well, but they will still get wet and then die.

(*geschrei: the Yiddish word for yelling, crying out, to shriek)

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47 Comments
Anonymous
Anonymous
January 31, 2020 7:16 pm

Agreed.

Hyperborean
Hyperborean
  Anonymous
January 31, 2020 9:37 pm

They make a desert and call that peace.

gatsby1219
gatsby1219
January 31, 2020 7:23 pm

“The Iranian strike proved a fundamental new reality to the rest of the world: the US is much more afraid of Iran than Iran is afraid of the US.”

Standup comedy ?

starfcker
starfcker
  gatsby1219
February 1, 2020 7:56 am

the saker should publish under his real name, Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  starfcker
February 1, 2020 9:22 am

I am sure the Saker will have an unfortunate accident at the appropriate time.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
January 31, 2020 8:16 pm

You have to break a few eggs if you are going to be making breakfast for Israel.

CCRider
CCRider
January 31, 2020 8:35 pm

If you swallowed trump’s bullshit story you got had. Again.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 31, 2020 8:53 pm

John Bolton could not have written a better piece…sheesh

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 31, 2020 10:22 pm

Agreed, what did saker want, Trump to ramp up the hostilities and start another ME war as retaliation? I think it was handled brilliantly. Now if Iran acts again, it may be time to be more assertive.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 1, 2020 3:00 am

Reading comprehension. You two bozos lack it.

dunno y
dunno y
  Anonymous
February 1, 2020 4:01 am

Go ahead make Iran’s day. It was handled like the kindergarten heads they are. US assertiveness is now the world’s joke, a one trick pony to old and demented to be the star of the show anymore and is being kicked out of the circus.
Seems the minstrel boy in you forget to free himself of the chains. The harp has no sound get it.

Morongobill
Morongobill
January 31, 2020 9:08 pm

So bottom line, he’s saying Iran just bitch slapped the Hell out of US.

TampaRed
TampaRed
January 31, 2020 9:16 pm

has the saker ever said anything positive about the us ?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TampaRed
January 31, 2020 9:27 pm

Is that the standard or is truth the standard?

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Anonymous
January 31, 2020 11:30 pm

truth should be the standard but is saker telling the truth?

CCRider
CCRider
  TampaRed
February 1, 2020 7:27 am

The Saker is a very religious man who, like his fellow traveler Ron Paul, resists the Anglo/Zionist empire. If you support empire you’ll have no use for his views. Or the truth.

“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” K Rove

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  CCRider
February 1, 2020 9:24 am

Yes the Saker is an American hater who turns a nice phrase. I wonder how he feels about blood eagles.

CCRider
CCRider
  Martel's Hammer
February 1, 2020 11:39 am

America hater???? You mean the American empire? Me too. This is a fine example of the cheap tricks THEY use to buffalo weak minds (BTW welcome back Star). Like when THEY say “WE need to kill more Iranians. Or are WE spending enough on ‘our’ nation’s ‘defense’. Who the fuck is we? Cause I don’t want to kill anyone in Iran and THEY don’t give a fuck what anyone thinks about ‘defense’ spending.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  CCRider
February 1, 2020 1:37 pm

Gosh did you think that up all by yourself? Shhhh adults are talking.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  TampaRed
January 31, 2020 9:50 pm

He loves China, and would prefer to be tied up with One Belt.
Notice the Sakers monolithic use of Iran or Iranian, like he is stuck in 1985, and his dissertation read like a Schiff allocution. Not a mention of internal dissent, or the 1600 killed in protest, or the extremely high rank and value of Solimani, it was a gigantic hit to the globalist.
And the Peace deal is a wild card, Trump is wiley, the announcement would not have been in made with out confidence.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  ottomatik
February 1, 2020 9:25 am

But the Saker hates Jews also so he must be a genius!

dunno y
dunno y
  TampaRed
February 1, 2020 4:11 am

Isn’t it obvious too you lot, America is great because she is good, when America ceases to be good she ceases to be great. She ceased to be good the first time she sailed into Korea with gunboats a decade after Tocqueville wrote those lines.
Loathe to break it to you America is disposable not indispensable and not exceptional in any way.
Revenge of the heartland is coming better roll with the boat or get rocked by the wave.

A. R. Wasem
A. R. Wasem
  TampaRed
February 1, 2020 11:20 am

What is there that’s “positive” about U.S. policies in the Mideast – other, of course, than being Israel’s lickspittle “bitch”.

Dan
Dan
  TampaRed
February 1, 2020 1:16 pm

has the saker ever said anything positive about the us ?

Absolutely! The Israeli-directed U.S. government? Not so much.

mark branham
mark branham
January 31, 2020 11:22 pm

So, do you really believe that 2 years of investigating Trump and they found NOTHING!!! Even if they didn’t(highly unlikely) they would have just made it up. Federal prosecutors are notorious at making up stuff to jail an ‘inconvenience.’So why didn’t they? Who wields that kind of power in Washington?

Someone(s) providing cover for Trump. Someones making sure he stays in office.

Is that why he’s crawled into the sack wit da jews??

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  mark branham
February 1, 2020 9:32 am

Gosh I dunno, the 63M folks that voted for Orange Man and of whom many are prepared to slaughter every leftist Deep Stater if their vote is denied might have something to do with it….just a guess on my part.

AC
AC
January 31, 2020 11:39 pm

So, I guess you can have a functional society, or you can have Diversity™.

D’oh! Looks like democracy dies in diversity

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Donkey
Donkey
February 1, 2020 12:07 am

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Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Donkey
February 1, 2020 9:34 am

I prefer the more authentic band: Mullet Hatchet!

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Llpoh
Llpoh
February 1, 2020 12:56 am

Notice who Iran did not attack? Umm, that would be Israel. And why is that? Because Iran is afraid of Israel. And for good reason.

They US does not have the will to battle Iran. Israel is a tiny mite of a country. But Iran will not directly screw with them, because to do so is to risk getting smote.

The US has not had the will for true war in a long time. Viet Nam? Korea?

They should get the hell out of there. Should have done so decades ago.

Lebowski
Lebowski
  Llpoh
February 1, 2020 3:59 am

“Smote” you mean yut right?

dunno y
dunno y
  Llpoh
February 1, 2020 4:27 am

Iran is not afraid of Israel it was either the US base or Israel and the US decided to take the hit because as you said they lack the will.
Iran is prepared beyond US capability and determined with a will Americans will never understand. Iran can take the “smote” no worries and when they come out of their bunkers what has Israel got left if it is left. Nothing but its own assured destruction. 80 million determined souls against the suckling state of Israel? You haven’t had many a street fight have you?

starfcker
starfcker
  dunno y
February 1, 2020 7:59 am

“Iran is prepared beyond US capability.” Come on dude. Mom’s calling. Go eat your breakfast

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  dunno y
February 1, 2020 9:37 am

Which explains why least 1500 were murdered by the “loved” regime protesting the mad mullahs in December.

1,500 protesters killed during Iran Uprising, 29 women confirmed dead

overthecliff
overthecliff
  dunno y
February 1, 2020 11:27 am

USA has plenty of capability but not much will.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  dunno y
February 1, 2020 4:17 pm

They said it was either the US base or Israel. I called horseshit when they said it, and I was right.

Iran is highly unlikely to fuck directly with Israel. Because they fear there will be huge gaping holes where cities used to be if they do so. Or at least where anything resembling a nuclear reactor or weapons dump used to be. And they may well be right about that.

I say again. It will be a cold day in hell before Iran launches a missile attack on Israel.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Llpoh
February 1, 2020 11:26 am

Yes ,Llpoh,’tis better to be feared than loved.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 1, 2020 8:51 am

The US Government Middle East policies has been and will continue to be a cluster fuck of failures and will continue to be so . We as a nation can no longer withstand or afford to be world police , peace keeper or the military of choice to do the dirty work to enrich the Circle Jerk Of Wall Street To K-Street to Capitol Street !
Shut down all overseas bases bring all American troops home and evict the UN !
We need a more isolationist foreign policy because US bankers cannot be trusted nor can any of our politicians to truly do or represent what is right for our nation

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Anonymous
February 1, 2020 9:47 am

It all sounds good until China takes over the oil patch and then embargoes the USA….”If you trade with the US, you get no ME oil”….our economy goes into a depression….and we are starved to death into third-world status…but at least we don’t have any ME bases……

Though maybe we slipped a little HIV into their Bat-Corona virus….hmmmm.

The world is a terrible dangerous place, we either defend our place in it or we get eaten……..

That doesn’t mean we need to have 650 bases on foreign soil or engage with endless wars of empire……but let’s not pretend that it would all be fine if we took our toys and went home…that is not how it works.

In fact, we should be more ruthless, more savage and actually nuke folks once a decade or so…..eg. Nuke Iran today, kill 25% of them and all of their infrastructure and they will adjust their attitudes and every other tin-pot dictator will behave immeasurably better…..no need for boots on the ground or expensive bases……

Worked marvelously well post-WWII……Japan and Germany got their shit together the Russians never invaded Europe and we didn’t have people spread across the globe until Vietnam…..arrgh.

Wars of empire are playing on the Third Worlders terms…..stupidity.

A. R. Wasem
A. R. Wasem
  Martel's Hammer
February 1, 2020 11:33 am

And if the Iranians have secretly signed a mutual-assistance treaty with the Russian Federation or the Chinese – or both? The problem with rabid neocons like yourself is that you are incapable of considering iatrogenic consequences. Not to mention that every individual in the chain of command from the President down would be guilty of crimes against humanity – both in the general moral and in the strict legal sense (Nuremberg Tribunal).

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  A. R. Wasem
February 1, 2020 11:43 am

Err….UN out of US and US out of the UN….War crimes are simply the victory laps of the winners in a conflict…..Neocon….you can do better than that…weak.

We have avoided a world war for 80 years because we nuked the Bushido loving yellow bastards…..worked really well. Saved hundreds of millions of lives…..

A little nuking keeps the peace…….mostly by raising the costs of behaving badly…….speak softly (no foreign bases and wars of empire) but carry a very big stick and use that stick occasionally to remind asshats (and if need be small hats)….

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
  Martel's Hammer
February 1, 2020 1:31 pm

@Martel’s Hammer

“It all sounds good until China takes over the oil patch and then embargoes the USA…”

Haven’t you been reading the news lately? A black swan has descended on China. This corona virus will take down China economically. This particular virus could fizzle out just like every other flu virus from China does with not that many deaths in the 1.5 billion population or around the world.

However, the chicken little mentality is in full force and popularity at the moment. This mentality does not look at the total reality concerning virus. It focuses on the worst that could happen; a fiction of mind, that the worst is happening, and something must be done.

The biggest fear in populations is the fear of war and communicable disease. It generates mentalities of complete dissonance and erratic thinking.

This seems to be happening in China and now the world. The contagion of dissonance and erratic thinking is spreading across the world faster than the corona virus. Just watch what governments and corporations are doing in response from this virus coming out of China. The responses are scarier than the virus.

Do we not realize that new viruses appear every year that kill people; usually the weak, and many that has killed far more people than the corona virus has so far killed? So why the panic? So now with every new virus that appears in our world are we to be forced by our respective governments to take vaccines they develop to combat these viruses? Why not let our body do it.

What we are presently witnessing is the downfall of China and it’s influence on world affairs. What we are also witnessing is how the fear in people of disease affects rational thinking in populations.

This is the year of the rat.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Thunderbird
February 1, 2020 1:49 pm

Can you folks make up your fucking minds?

Does an omniscient government of (small hats) actually control everything and therefore everything is predetermined or does shit simply happen and state level/international actors react and attempt to take advantage?

I tend to think the latter…..

As I mentioned “we” and in deference to CCridescock We is the Folks in control of the US, might have slipped old China a “mickey” by letting them steal and enginerred virus…..which is some real Tom Clancy level shit.

But……..

In combo with our Small Hat friends, we did figure out what German machine controllers the Iranians were buying and then sabotaged those controllers knowing that some would end up at Natanz……..and the poor Iranian engineers were getting executed because the centrifuges kept blowing up…….despite the air gap closed facility!!!!!!! Now that is one target but quite an accomplishment….but I think it proves my point…the Iranians were vulnerable because they did not inspect the firmware figuring an air gap was sufficient……bad assumption.

So yes the knock-on impacts of CoronaVirus are likely to accelerate the disintermediation of China in the supply chain……so was it the bat soup or the US exploiting a key vulnerability in the Chinese culture?

Saker and other doomsayers…….Brandon et. al…..are flat earthers (gratuitous slam on our flat earth crew!) thinking mostly in two dimensions…..there are always ways to exploit unexpected weaknesses and vulnerabilities the opponent is not protecting……

Well written analysis by the Saker does not equate to well-reasoned analysis when the assumptions are narrow in scope.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
  Martel's Hammer
February 1, 2020 3:12 pm

You explain it well Martel’s Hammer.

overthecliff
overthecliff
February 1, 2020 11:13 am

The USA is unwi

overthecliff
overthecliff
February 1, 2020 11:18 am

One more asymmetry for the list.

Willing to use military advantage to kill 100’s of thousands. USA NO, IRAN ,YES.

CSA
CSA
February 1, 2020 2:03 pm

“There is nothing which the U.S. ruling classes will not do to try to get the favor and support of the Israel Lobby.”
Who the Hell is Israel?? They’re nothing but a bunch of parasitic, barbaric, thievish inbreeds. I don’t under-
stand bowing down to a pile of cretins. If any country had a brain, they’d get rid of the pods contaminating
ones country. They have a country and it is Mongolia where they originated. It can’t be loyalty so it must be
some kind of fear. Fear of what? They are nothings.
One of the reasons I won’t vote for Trump again.