Waiting for Sidney

Guest Post by Roger Kimball

Trump election lawyer Sidney Powell is longtime QAnon supporter - Business  Insider

So what is the state of play regarding the 2020 presidential election? There seem to be two main positions.

One is that Joe Biden won the election, narrowly but with sufficient latitude that any challenge is bootless. A corollary of that contention is that the adults in the room, be they Republicans or Democrats, should get with the program and accede to the Narrative.

Over the past week or so, I have had many Republican friends—including some sympathetic to President Trump—explain that the fight is essentially over. Some acknowledge the political wisdom of Trump pursuing every legal recourse. Yet the assumption is always the same: the game is lost but, like a transmission from a distant galaxy, the news has not yet reached us. “To preserve our democracy,” both Left and Right say, we will soon need to draw a line under the election of 2020 and declare Joe Biden the winner.

If you are a Democratic mouthpiece—i.e., if you are a spokesman for the mainstream media—then you think (or at least you say) that Trump’s refusal to concede is “damaging democracy” and isn’t it just the kind of bad behavior you would expect of a man of “bad character” who should never have been president in the first place? Those on the Right, many of them, want or at least are willing to let the “process” play out but in their heart-of-hearts they have already conceded and are calculating how they might turn this unfortunate situation to their advantage.

The other main position—and let me hasten to acknowledge that it is mine—is that this election was riddled with voter fraud. Nor was it the usual taken-for-granted and (between us sophisticated men of the world) acceptable margin of fraud but a planned and systematic assault on the integrity of our election that overturned a convincing victory for Donald Trump.

I believe this partly because of the stunning statistical anomalies in the election—I have written about this several times (here, for example, and here).

But I believe the election was fraudulent for other reasons as well. Perhaps the chief reason has to do with the allegations put forward by Sidney Powell, a prominent attorney who is part of President Trump’s legal team. She has laid out her case many times in the last couple of weeks, including at an “opening statement” press conference on November 19 at which she, Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, and other members of Trump’s legal team offered a précis of their case.

Their presentation was widely, if not quite universally, condemned by the media. “Where is the evidence?” was one cry, but another, less articulate though more insistent was “Evidence be damned, just shut up and get Trump out of office!”

Suddenly, a lot of people were imitating the state of Missouri, responding to every allegation with the demand “Show me!” Tucker Carlson delighted Trump’s enemies and enraged his friends by pointedly asking what evidence Powell had. He later updated his comments, noting that if Powell is right, she has, almost single-handedly, uncovered what is perhaps the biggest political crime in our nation’s history.

It has not, let me admit, been entirely smooth sailing for Powell. Shortly after the election, she helped publicize the idea that “The Hammer” and “Scorecard” software allegedly written for our intelligence services and deployed abroad to intervene in foreign elections, was used in our election. Unfortunately, it is not at all clear that those programs even exist.

That revelation has to make even those of us who, like me, are on Powell’s side take a step or two back. If Hammer and Scorecard were figments of someone’s imagination, how about the allegations that Dominion voting machines are hackable by design, that they were deployed in Venezuela to assure Hugo Chávez’s victory, and that they have subsequently been used elsewhere to meddle with election results?

Speaking to Glenn Beck on Friday, Powell described what has just happened as “a global criminal conspiracy” that involves China, our own intelligence services, and various European countries. Beck was right that if even 25 percent of what Powell alleges is true, it would count as perhaps “the biggest” such crime in history. If.

The pressure to make these allegations disappear is enormous. Lawyers as well as front-line election canvassers working for Trump campaign have been doxxed, harassed, threatened. Several firms, demonstrating the courage and independent spirit for which establishment bureaucrats are famous, have withdrawn their services. Beck noted that Facebook had demonetized his show for the crime of carrying, without comment, the Giuliani-Powell-Ellis press conference from November 19. What are they afraid of?

Dominion was scheduled to answer questions from Pennsylvania lawmakers a couple of days ago. Company officials backed out at the last moment. Why? What were they afraid of?

Meanwhile, Powell promises that her team will begin making evidence of their claims available as early as this week. Her team has suits teed-up in all the swing states and hundreds of affidavits to back them up. Of course, an affidavit is just a sworn statement. It might or might not be true. To verify would, I believe, require further evidence. Does Powell have that evidence? She says she does. For now, though, we are all caught in a postmodern version of a Beckett play, Waiting for Sidney. Will she arrive?

Many big claims have been made, and not only by Sidney Powell.  Another  lawyer, the celebrated Lin Wood, has joined the fight. Like Powell, he believes that Trump won in “a landslide,” by “millions of votes” that, were the ballots accurately counted, would deliver Trump the popular vote as well as some 400 electoral votes. A resident of Georgia, he has just filed suit there.

One commentator who knows Powell weighed in on the state of play, noting that he believes Powell. He believes her and her fellow attorneys partly because of the abundant circumstantial evidence of voter fraud, partly because if she and her colleagues are wrong, or are deceiving us, the penalties would be severe.

“If these charges are false,” he noted, “their careers are finished.”

If defamation lawsuits get launched—and I don’t see how Dominion has any choice but to file them, or go bankrupt—Sidney Powell could lose her house and her license to practice law. She’d be a pauper. The same is true of Ellis, Giuliani, and anyone else on the president’s team. But only if the charges are unsupported and untrue.

That’s my emphasis, Kemo Sabe: only if the charges are unsupported and untrue.

I really do not know what is going to happen. The clock is ticking, loudly. Sometimes it seems that Trump would need a miracle akin to the “miracle of the lightning” or the “miracle of the rain” that saved Marcus Aurelius and his generals in their battles against revolting German tribes in the early 170s AD. In one case, a Roman army was besieged by the Iazyges when a bolt of lightning destroyed the Iazyges’ siege works and the Romans rallied. In the other, the Romans were surrounded by the Quadi and cut off from fresh water. In the dreadful summer heat, they were about to succumb when the heavens opened and a downpour snatched them from ignominious defeat. Those dei ex machina were stunning, unpredictable, salvific.

Can Donald Trump count on something similar? No. Could it nonetheless happen? You betcha.

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None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
November 22, 2020 8:35 am

I call what is happening right now per Trump’s election strategy, “The Sidney Powell Gambit”. It is my belief that it is all either a PSYOP or LARP. Either way we lose.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  None Ya Biz
November 22, 2020 12:45 pm

Here’s another theory regarding the election fraud. We could once again, like 9/11, be sleep walking into another round of endless war.

What if the main purpose of the election fraud was not to install Joe Biden as president, but to lay a false trail of vote rigging that leads straight to Iran, Venezuela, and China? Once proven in court, what would the standard US response be? That’s right, bomb the hell out of all of them. Iran and Venezuela would just be the pawns that enable endless US occupation of new regions in the world, but China would be the main event. Recall how the bankers funded the Nazis to enable the destruction of Europe and pave the way for the EU super-state (i.e., single currency and bank controlled by them). What if China is now playing the same role as Nazi Germany and is being used to drag the US into another world war under false pretense and once defeated would be brought under the control of the central banking cross ownership nexus? And the US, totally bankrupt from the fight, just like after the Civil War when we sold our soul in 1871 for some borrowed gold from the City of London, we will lose even more sovereignty from the London bankers just to keep our decrepit money going a few more years.

Is this Project for the New American Century by different means?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  ICE-9
November 22, 2020 1:03 pm

I have already seen Venezuela and China mentioned.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  ICE-9
November 22, 2020 1:20 pm

The playbook…

The Evolution of Fiat Money, Endless War, and the End of Citizenship

Anonymous
Anonymous
  None Ya Biz
November 22, 2020 3:25 pm

No coincidences in politics.
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Thaisleeze
Thaisleeze
November 22, 2020 9:11 am

This is the latest Sidney Powell interview giving new details, hot stuff if she is right. Since this interview she has said that the server seized in Germany was probably by the good guys, to quote her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y68pEknYyCM

m
m
November 22, 2020 9:28 am

The linked-to article deserves to be posted on TBP entirely:

I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  m
November 22, 2020 9:57 am

Leopard print ought to get you the respect you’re looking for.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 11:40 am

Standing next to a guy who likely was part of the 9-11 plot doesn’t hurt either. LOL.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  MrLiberty
November 22, 2020 12:55 pm

LOL. By golly, and you have all the proof of his 911 activities and you’re waiting for just the right moment to disclose them.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 12:54 pm

Yup, what a person wears is sooo much more important than what they have to say. Who will you go after in your next episode of Fashion Police; the Election Saga?

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 2:04 pm

Mygirl, you crack me up. Didn’t you just post about Zuckerburg and his wife’s relationship? Bwahahabababa.

Only a woman is interested in relationship bullshit. Go watch another episode of as the world turns. To rich.

I am tired of all of these fantastical claims.

Trump better come bigly or he won’t even be a footnote in history. Truly sad. So sad.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 2:13 pm

Donkey, sometimes you aren’t real bright. I posted information regarding Zuckerburg’s little CHINESE American bride. Either reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, you fail to understand or appreciate innuendo or else you didn’t read the comment.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 2:30 pm

The fact is, a man is in charge of his own affairs. If Zuck is weak, that is what matters. Who knows the truth of these things? You think you know? Maybe their marriage is sham? Maybe it was an arranged marriage. Maybe the globalists created FB and they just needed some young kid who could act the part. Stick him with an insurgent to watch him and make sure he doesn’t rock the boat. Maybe he’s being kept against his will. Round and round goes the world.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 2:48 pm

The fact is a man isn’t always in charge of his own affairs.
There are many chinese communist spies, look at Diane Feinstein for a taste, ditto the Wuhan virus and all the shenanigans that went on in American and Canadian universities then go look at Biden and his pervert Chinese agent son.
That you don’t grasp the connection here surprises me.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 3:01 pm

This shit is getting so deep, all I taste and see is bullshit. I hate to be that guy but, seriously, this is some crazy assed shit going on right now. We have entered a new dark age, I believe. The first dark age was hidden information and repression of thought. Now? It seems the new dark age is overwhelming amounts of bullshit. Ever wonder why I wrote “The Truth Does Not Exist”?

There is a new religion now. It is a religion pushed by, imo, the media. Whatever the media says and does is going to be viewed as straight from the mouth of God himself. Propaganda is the new religion. People absolutely love it. In fact, they partake in it. Lies are fun now. I see it every day, all day long.

I’ve only told 2 people on TBP that I love them. You are one of them. The type of love is a love I have for those who I believe would do anything to uphold truth and freedom. You and Stuck are loved by me. In a non sexual way, of course.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 3:55 pm

Well, I love you right back, for the same reason.
As to the deep shit? I actually feel that we, as a populace are finally getting a serious light shining on all the corruption.

Let them who have eyes see, and those who have ears hear...

“He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so that they cannot see with their eyes, and understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.”

Isaiah 1:23
Your rulers are rebels, friends of thieves. They all love bribes and chasing after rewards. They do not defend the fatherless, and the plea of the widow never comes before them.

Son of man, you dwell in the middle of a rebellious house, which have eyes to see, and see not; they have ears to hear, and hear not: for they are a rebellious house.

The rebellious house is the house of the unbeliever, the house of those who reject righteousness and goodness and truth and honesty. The democrats support late term abortion, ie: infanticide. They claim a woman has a right to her own body and yet say hundreds of thousands of people must wear a mask and be locked inside their own homes. The democrats open their arms to all humanity except for white people, Christians, straight people, etc.

I could go on but you get the point. I am utterly convinced that this struggle is Biblical, good vs. evil.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 5:51 pm

MG, my father and I talk daily about the battle between good and evil.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 3:02 pm

Glock – There are quite a few soy boys who are led around by their Johnson, by women who have much more testosterone.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  TN Patriot
November 22, 2020 3:08 pm

Yes, I see that every damn day also but, we are still responsible.

yahright
yahright
November 22, 2020 9:31 am

I like to believe Powell wouldn’t put her reputation on the line unless she sees evidence. If half the stuff I have seen online and here at TBP is true that just helps her case. It’s really not hard to believe in a computer being hacked and numbers being fiddled with. the states that shut their vote-counting down in the middle of the night and then had insane amounts of only Biden votes show up like a maricle don’t pass the smell test.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  yahright
November 22, 2020 3:07 pm

Looking at the statistical analysis, the numbers support the fraud allegations. If it was limited to just one state, it could be an anomaly, but to occur in all of the swing states, along with the almost simultaneous shutdown of vote counting in swing-state dem strongholds and magically the uninspiring candidate takes a commanding lead when the count resumes.

It just does not pass the smell test. I do not know if they can prove it, but Sidney certainly thinks so.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  TN Patriot
November 22, 2020 3:51 pm

The question is, is the media and court system more powerful than the truth?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 7:33 pm

You nailed it when you used the term “court system”. If we had a judicial system, the truth would win out.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
November 22, 2020 9:55 am

Powell and company had better be right, and they had better be able to prove it. Frankly, I blame Trump for not having anticipated this. He should have demanded proper supervision of the election, to include the voting machines, and gone to court if the Democrats objected. As for mail-in voting, this was so obvious a fraud mechanism that Trump should have gone to the Supreme Court to stop it in every state. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Now we are faced with a ticking clock and Trump’s people had better be preparing to pull a rabbit out of the hat and fast. If they do and can prove massive fraud, his course of action is obvious. As I have said, call in the Supreme Court, explain that this is an extraordinary situation not covered by the Constitution, and that he is going to declare martial law and round up the usual suspects. At the same time he damn sure better give air tight legal cover for militia organizations to operation and suppress Antifa, BLM, or any other dregs of humanity who go out to support the Biden attempted coup. One more thing. The RINO’s go straight into the same bag as the Democrats. In for a penny, in for a pound. If you are going to be called the most evil man in history, you may as well go bad ass right to the wall.

Ben Lurken
Ben Lurken
  Southern Sage
November 22, 2020 10:04 am

SS Trump has known about vote switching at least since he tweeted about in 2012. That Romney better take notice they were stealing his votes. I think he came to the realization he could not stop it so he let them do it and hopefully has a foolproof plan to expose them.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Southern Sage
November 22, 2020 1:04 pm

SS you need to do some research before you come out with guns blazing. He should have gone to court? Well, by golly he did…and this is what happened.
https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/trump-lawsuit-to-stop-nevada-mail-in-vote-count-condemned-as-obvious-and-desperate-suppression-attempt/

https://bipartisanreport.com/2020/10/22/federal-court-thwarts-desperate-trump-attempt-to-stop-mail-voting/

https://apnews.com/ece1f6e9cea1b2aa0a8c6af7ca003f26

That’s just from one search. There were lots more on the same topics. Instead of bitching about what Trump should have done I respectfully suggest you go educate yourself about what he did do and what all happened first and then come back and post.

As to declaring Martial Law? Get real. You are demanding that Trump act like a tinhorn dictator and you assume that his ‘orders’ would actually be obeyed.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 2:08 pm

Hello, erf to Mygirl. That is why SS is saying look to the militia and support their actions.

Trump has an obligation to do whatever is necessary to overturn an illegal election.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 2:20 pm

Trump doesn’t operate in a world populated ONLY with Trump supporters. Now, instead of saying what he OUGHT to do, why don’t you spell out, list and enumerate the processes that must happen in order for Trump to declare himself emperor.

How can he do what you demand he do? You all are big on what he oughta do and real short on the how he can do it.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 2:36 pm

I don’t want to speak for SS but, I believe he is saying this…
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…because he believes this will be the only choice if things continue to go the way it looks.

SS is not a joke. He is a very accomplished person in high places. How high, I do not know.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Glock-N-Load
November 22, 2020 2:52 pm

You still haven’t listed the actual process that Trump must follow or the things that he has to do nor have you written a guide about HOW to make it happen. Saying he MUST declare martial law at this point will only get his ass tossed on his ear. Grow up.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 4:06 pm

Spoken like a woman. Trump and his team piddled in court. There was no hard core effort to stop this, despite what your “research” says. I love women and have been married more than 30 years. Your weak, hand-wringing response is what I expect from a dingbat. We are in the opening of a civil war. Just STFU.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Southern Sage
November 22, 2020 4:23 pm

Grow up. Trump and his team piddled in court? Not really. You don’t seem to be aware of the goal of not letting a trial get hung up in lower court. Months and years could drag on in lower courts and no, I doubt the Trump team is so stupid as to let that happen. The goal is the Supreme Court.

Just because you’re pissed off and frustrated doesn’t justify attacking me because I am female. Your stereotyping of women is sad, I thought you were smarter than this.

In the realm of the overly emotional, especially at THIS point in time, being thoughtless and emotional is most definitely something you’re doing.
Hoist the flag and start cutting throats? Now? This very minute? Is this your Ft. Sumner?

Well alrighty then and before you start with the blood letting, perhaps you can finally explain the process that Trump should follow in his declaration of martial law at this time. Gore had 37 days to get to the SC. Perhaps you could let that happen
first before you demand he raze the countryside?

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 4:43 pm

Here, all you little martial law advocates…read this. Zerohedge commenter who nails it….

3 hours ago
(Edited)
Sadly, whether you choose not to accept the facts of the election interference and fraud is your choice. It’s a shame there are so many who turn a blind eye to reality. It’s also a shame that you continue to reject that 73 Million voters who actually did vote for their candidate is likely to be more than the alleged count that is being claimed under the fraudulent number pushed for Mr. Biden if there was an honest, clean audit done state-by-state.

Something you need to understand about the Supreme Court and their involvement. Whether the majority is conservative or liberal should not be the main issue here. If you look at the Constitution, there are specific laws spelled out about the elections. Specifically, the state legislatures are the only entities in any state that is allowed to make laws governing anything about the election–that means no governor, no state attorney general, no county commissioner, no state court or judge, no secretary of state–nobody else in any state can change any state law regarding the elections. If you go back over the run up to the 2020 election, you can find many instances of laws in many states–especially the swing states–where laws were changed or enacted, especially regarding mail in votes and moving back the date for these to be returned after the November 3rd Election Day–and none of these laws were passed by state legislatures (at least in the states being litigated now).

This is where the SCOTUS and the Constitution are critical for everyone. Because only the state legislatures can change or make election law under the US Constitution, everywhere the laws were made/changed by anyone other than those state legislatures, the SCOTUS judges can and will rule against them or they will be spitting on the Constitution. Like it or not, this is a Constitutional Republic and trying to circumvent that is as bad as anything else that has been attempted in this election.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 5:59 pm

Well, keep putting your truth out there MG. This is the biggest event in my life and I will continue to listen to those who are most embroiled in it.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 7:30 pm

If Roberts were not compromised, the PA issue would have been stopped before they accepted, commingled and counted the fraudulent ballots.

mark
mark
  TN Patriot
November 22, 2020 9:15 pm

TLPTB (L=Luciferians) must have more on Roberts than just the around the law Irish adoptions of his two kids…there has to be more to have twisted him into the supreme liberal dream contortionist he has become?

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  mark
November 22, 2020 10:58 pm

Mark,
He does have the option of resigning. But I suppose that might just be a bridge too far.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  mark
November 23, 2020 8:34 am

From what I’ve read, he was on Epstein’s plane flight list.

Tony
Tony
  Vixen Vic
November 23, 2020 9:07 am

Bingo!!

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Southern Sage
November 22, 2020 3:11 pm

” If you are going to be called the most evil man in history, you may as well go bad ass right to the wall.” Time to go full Franco.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Southern Sage
November 23, 2020 2:02 pm

The question is: “Prove it to whom?”
As if courts, lawyers, judges, legislatures, the media, or the people can be shown some airtight, factual, well-reasoned evidence amounting to proof and they’ll roll over and say “Oh, okay, I see. You’re right, there’s fraud.”

Point is, you can prove it all day long and it won’t matter. Proof doesn’t matter. It’s not the votes that count, or even who counts the votes, it’s who the COURTS and the MEDIA say won. You already know how the media comes down. Expecting integrity from whoever hears the case in which the alleged “proof” is presented is a fool’s expectation.

Nothing but the truth.
Nothing but the truth.
November 22, 2020 10:00 am

Trump’s legal team better nail this one and stick it hard to those scheming ,fraudulent, deceitful democrats. It’s the only shot America has to save itself from it’s impending collapse.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
November 22, 2020 10:07 am

We had to destroy the Democracy in order to save the Democracy.

And FWIW I believe that Sydney will be every bit as effective as Q has been.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  hardscrabble farmer
November 22, 2020 1:14 pm

Q effective? I don’t know what Q even is, it sounds like a psyop. Q is not a legal challenge or even remotely related to election fraud challenges.

Those fraud challenges have to happen in court and if the lower courts don’t allow evidence to be presented then the next channel is the Supreme Court. If Sidney is denied her day in court, if the SC court refuses to hear the case then you truly have a incorrigibly and totally corrupt system and Civil War is indeed on the horizon.
The knowledge of corruptable voting machines is old knowledge, what IS new is the ‘foreign influence’ aspect and, if you pay attention, you hear that Sidney is consistently bringing that tidbit up in all her conversations. It all hinges on that very special EO.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  hardscrabble farmer
November 22, 2020 1:36 pm

As usual HSF has an accurate analysis of things the way they are.

m
m
  hardscrabble farmer
November 22, 2020 2:22 pm

So what’s your point? They shouldn’t even try to use the legal system?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
November 22, 2020 3:41 pm

Yes on Sydney.

Spreading bullshit effectively is a prized legal and political skill.

Way more polished than ACB for example.
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RJ
RJ
  Anonymous
November 23, 2020 12:57 am

ACB isn’t a Mormon, you tool…

ASIG
ASIG
November 22, 2020 10:11 am

The problem though is in going to the courts to right the wrongs of a corrupt system is that the courts are just another arm of that same corrupt system.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  ASIG
November 22, 2020 11:12 am

And you have Federal Court Judges out right dismissing the cases. Such as this one:

https://www.breitbart.com/news/judge-throws-out-trump-bid-to-stop-pa-vote-certification/

The counting will continue until Biden is president.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  ASIG
November 22, 2020 11:48 am

If you are hoping for the Supremes or even the Congress to take up the matter, you have to go through the process. Skirting the existing process makes you look like a dictator. Not that I disagree with your premise about he courts and the corruption.

ASIG
ASIG
  MrLiberty
November 22, 2020 12:13 pm

When your enemy is going all out – no holds barred, do you continue to “play fair” or do you do whatever it takes? Is it enough to say “yeah we lost but at least we played fair”?

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  ASIG
November 22, 2020 1:06 pm

Well, the court cases present places where evidence is presented in public and goes into an official record as well. I hear what you are saying, but getting 50 million or so Biden voters (or however few) to accept the outcome, and justifications for massive interventions against other agents, happens easier if you present it all in a more “accepted” forum. And they haven’t lost yet.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  ASIG
November 22, 2020 3:13 pm

“yeah we lost but at least we played fair” Was that a quote from Romney, McCain or both?

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  ASIG
November 22, 2020 1:16 pm

The problem though is in going to the courts to right the wrongs of a corrupt system is that the courts are just another arm of that same corrupt system

BINGO. What ASIG just wrote. We have far, far greater problems that a stolen election.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 4:08 pm

Name one, idiot. Free tampax?

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Anonymous
November 22, 2020 4:36 pm

Name one, idiot. Free tampax?

Well, asshole, the fact that the government is so corrupt that election fraud is even countenanced much less promoted should be of greater concern. The fact that the courts, every governmental agency and most politicians are involved in the fraud on both state and federal levels is of greater concern than a stolen election. The fact that half the population is too stupid to understand the consequences of a stolen election is actually worse that the theft itself.

Now, please, anonymous, go fuck yourself.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 22, 2020 9:24 pm

“Name one, idiot. Free tampax?”
the far biggest problem imo is that it could be such a close election considering the quality of the democratic candidate–
the us population is brain dead & corrupt–

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  TampaRed
November 22, 2020 11:04 pm

My biggest fear is that it is -all- just one big reality tv show farce designed to draw attention away from something far far worse bearing down on us.

Old Toad of Green Acres
Old Toad of Green Acres
November 22, 2020 10:38 am

Pray for the truth.
To be as plain as Tuck the Cuck..
Keep the powder dry.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
November 22, 2020 11:45 am

How many movie plots and TV show stories have we seen where the facts are overwhelming, but the decision is made to hide or cover up the truth “for the good of the country,” “to avoid civil war,” “because the Duras family is very powerful on the Klingon council,” etc. And how many more truths have been hidden from us in real life for similar reasons (11/22/63 as one of many examples)? It scares me to think that this might end up the same way, with the truth shredded, cleansed, wiped, and expunged so the future can never discover the truth either.

But of course that won’t change the minds of 80+million Americans who know the truth. But it would be much more comforting to fight a civil war having seen the evidence firsthand.

overthecliff
overthecliff
November 22, 2020 11:58 am

Tucker Carlson is covering his ass by protecting his very large salary. Even Meghan Kelly has more guts but then she got her huge pay off already.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
  overthecliff
November 22, 2020 3:42 pm

Tuck stepped on his dick when he dissed Sidney. She has LOTS of fans! He “sort-of” apologized the following night. As for me, I still watch him, but he’s on probation.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  WestcoastDeplorable
November 22, 2020 9:58 pm

He is a diverter, paid to lead you into doing nothing or he would’t be on the air.

RJ
RJ
  overthecliff
November 23, 2020 12:59 am

You must have missed the show where Tucker said he wasn’t going to talk about a certain laptop because HE IS GOOD FRIENDS WITH HUNTER.

Tucker has always been Controlled Opposition. I remember him from his time on CNN, and then MSNBC. I found his transformation on Fox to be too good to believe. And so it was.

clayusmcret
clayusmcret
November 22, 2020 1:03 pm

Gore took 37 days. I reserve judgement until at least day 38.

Tony
Tony
November 23, 2020 9:20 am

So I was up very late when the internet and cell phones went done. Then the power went out and in the dark of the night, the military went about grabbing the Comey’s, Brennen’s and other deep stater’s of the world. Then I woke up… sure hope it was a premonition.