LLPOH: Exhibit 973 as to Why the Road Back May Be Endless

I exchanged emails with family in California the other day. I, of course, avoid all mention of politics, and kept my comments on such things to a single statement – that this virus stuff sure sucks.

The response I got from one relo (relative to you that do not speak ‘Strain) was that he sure is happy that that “clown” Trump is going down, and now there is real leadership on the way that will stop the virus in its tracks, and he hopes that they act like Australian leaders did and wipe out the virus. (I have drafted a long reply to that absurdity, detailing the draconian measures taken, the increased suicides, the hundreds of thousands seeking help for mental illness, the closed borders, the 40,000 Australians stranded overseas contrary to international law, the inability of citizens to leave Australia, the deaths caused to cancer and other ill patients unable to source care, etc. I advised him be careful what you wish for. I have not sent it at this time, as what is the point.)



Anyway, back to the correspondence. After bashingTrump, and effectively begging to be locked down, he says, and oh, by the way, me, my wife, and my extended family have all moved to Texas.

They moved to Texas, he says, because California is such a sh**hole, taxes are too high, property is too expensive, opportunities too limited for the kids and grandkids. It is so much nicer in Texas, he said.

So, there it is. People have no understanding that what they have done and what they believe have caused the issues they are facing. They are moving because of the issues they caused, but they are not changing their behaviour, and will repeat the mistakes elsewhere. This particular member of my family is a really nice guy. But he simply cannot link cause and effect.

Texas is only modestly Republican/conservative at the moment. By the next election, if there is one, it may be a majority left population. Incoming Californians, Oregonians, Washingtonians, plus a natural left base of Hispanics, mean it is a matter of time before Texas falls to the left.

Tennessee is also now in play. They are seeing a huge influx of northerners. It is only a matter of time before Tennessee falls left.

So, there will be no political way out of this mess. It will soon be, if not already is, impossible to elect a right/conservative leaning federal government. The government will either be left, or more left – Socialist, or Communist. Any hope of ever getting out of this quagmire will have to happen at the grassroots levels of middle America.

For some reason, I am reminded of this passage from LOTR:

Denethor : He is burning… already burning.
Pippin : He’s not dead! He’s not dead!
[Denethor drags him out] 
Pippin : No! No! He’s not dead! Stop!
Denethor : Farewell, Peregrin, son of Paladin… I release you from my service. Go now and die in what way seems best to you.

No, he is not dead. But it is now a close run thing.

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Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
January 12, 2021 8:42 pm

As a U.S. citizen as well as an Ozzie citizen, are you able to leave Oz based on being a U.S. citizen?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Didius Julianus
January 12, 2021 8:51 pm

Hard to get out at the moment as an Oz citizen, as the issue is not letting you out as much as they do not want to have to deal with your legal right of return, which they are not honoring in any event.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
January 12, 2021 10:13 pm

I believe Canada issued a deadline for anyone currently not in the country to get their asses home. Our resident Canadian TBPers will have to check me on that.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 7:38 am

So far I have not heard of any ultimatums such as that issued by PM Castro. My Brother-in-Law who lives in Dubai would no doubt give us all here a heads up if it was to change. His return to Canoodlestan in spring is still on, as far as I know, methinks.

Will look into it though just in case there was an edict issued that forced a change.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  RiNS
January 13, 2021 8:09 am

RiNS, I think it was not that you could not come back at all but if you went past a certain date you would have to quarantine in some facility that .gov put you in for at least 2 weeks, then test negative before you could get out. However, I can’t remember where this info came from.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 9:03 am

Well one definitely has to quarantine for two weeks right now. And I think you have to get tested prior to flight but that said, as it stands, there is no prohibition on coming and going. The gubmit wonks do make it a real pain in the ass to move across borders internationally and even provincially…

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  RiNS
January 13, 2021 10:05 am

Do they stop you at the borders of the provinces? That will probably happen here in the near future. It’s going to take a lot of manpower to guard all the state borders, though, unless they use drones. But still the sky would have to be covered with them.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 10:33 am

They do stop us at Provincial borders.. a pretty sad state of affairs…

how is this a thing here… well because most here are sheeple not citizens and are moar than ready to trade their rights for just one moar bowl of rice.. it makes it problematic to see relatives in other Provinces

Soon enuf it will be Holidays in Cambodia all around.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  RiNS
January 13, 2021 11:38 am

How many years do you have to go back for you to have said “That will never happen here.”?

For me, I’m not even sure, at least 15. Once Obummer was elected, that was the point where I would have at least taken a statement like that into consideration.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 1:53 pm

Longer than I care to admit…

I say that because where I live, I am inundated by people who aspire to be nothing moar than sheeple. People who have long since past being Citizens and now are mere hogs at the trough. They content themselves in their daze. Maybe knowing deep down that they cannot be saved. Their echo that is now secured, they feed on tweets and government drivel, to which I pass, with a nod at best, or tip of the hat.
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But to answer your question, if I was to quantify it with a number it would be, like you, about 15 years. And with the benefit of hindsight, maybe much longer. But that is water over the bridge now.. Wasted effort and not worth the bother.

My faith in the government to do right by me, which I thought was shaken, was in fact likely broken. The only mistake to make is to be fretting over time frittered in the way justice is administered…

Things outta my control… are just that…

Outta my control.
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Warren
Warren
  RiNS
January 13, 2021 3:08 pm

The failure of the Supreme Court to take up the Election case from Texas really was the day I knew that the USA was dead and it’s never coming back.

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
  Warren
January 14, 2021 10:21 am

Armstrong’s AI says the US starts breaking up in 12 years….Hope we last that long…

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Warren
January 15, 2021 11:01 am

Final nail in the coffin

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  RiNS
January 13, 2021 7:29 pm

I’ve learned to worry about the things that I can control….well most of the time. I’m not perfect at it but I still sleep at night.

Seems like things were meant to go the way they have.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Mary Christine
January 15, 2021 11:09 am

When we choose not to believe the truth God allows us to believe anything but the truth.
He’ll even steer us in the direction of unbelief He prefers us to go to fit His purposes.

kevx
kevx
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 3:27 pm

this Summer we saw state guard in new mexico – could only stop for gas, no hotels no stores – just gas!

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 7:14 am

Admin – any chance you can delete the planes?

Administrator
Administrator
Admin
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 7:28 am

Done

Ken31
Ken31
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 8:39 am

I might be able to accept that if the words “bring out your dead” were commonly heard being shouted in neighborhoods.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
January 12, 2021 8:46 pm

Great post. It never ceases to amaze me how many stories I hear that are just like this. Take the only dipshits on our street (that I am aware of, given the Trump signs everywhere else) that are Marxocrats. They moved from Virginia, fucked it up, moved to Wisconsin, fucked it up, and then moved here (Tennessee). The women on the street still use Facefuck. One of them told either my wife or me (yeah, my memory seems to be going at the old age of 46) that the turd ex-Wisconsin wife of the couple was bitching about guns and how terrible they are.

Apparently, she (the “good” lady) told the couple that her husband had capped a rabid raccoon just to the side of their property. Took 4 flipping shots, the damn thing was running in circles. She told them their (the turd couple) dogs would likely have been bitten, and oh BTW GTFO.

Don’t worry about Tennessee. We are 20 years ahead of Texas and 25 ahead of Virginia. Easily a statewide 23% margin. And this is a Fourth Turning, so there’s plenty of time to weed them out.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Articles of Confederation
January 12, 2021 8:57 pm

Texas was twenty years ahead just a few years ago. TN is now the #1 destination of one way UHauls from the commie cities. It comes upon you fast.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Llpoh
January 12, 2021 9:05 pm

Can’t argue with your logic. I maintain it’s by far the best state east of the Rockies, even with Memphis. And it’s a Fourth Turning.

But to counter that, the liberals breed maroons and that can have lingering effects.

Tired of Winning
Tired of Winning
  Articles of Confederation
January 13, 2021 7:26 pm

Fourth Turning is nonsense. If it was true, then Roman Empire would still be around, just going through neat 80-year cycles over and over again. No, this the end of the U.S.A. It may take awhile, but this country is done. It’ll be literally ground to dust, and then something interesting might emerge from there, way after all of us are long gone. This year population growth will for the first time in American history go negative, and the depopulation of this country will begin, kicking into higher gear with each passing year. The debt levels, in the meantime will keep skyrocketing. There is no way out from here, just complete and utter collapse, and total oblivion.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Llpoh
January 12, 2021 9:10 pm

It comes upon you fast.

Yup. I got into in an email today as well, accidentally sent an email of Hunter and little girls to a friend and it went to her husband. He fired back with how it was all lies and that Biden won in a landslide. So, I fired back and I sent the email because I am beyond tired of these simpleminded cretins who are destroying this country. I no longer hold back when I hear the shit and I also inform them that they are the reason the state they left turned into a shithole. The days of being polite are long over….

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Mygirl....maybe
January 12, 2021 9:13 pm

YES! Glad to hear someone other than me is flipping their shit! I’m tired of these doorknob humping retards.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Articles of Confederation
January 12, 2021 10:16 pm

Doorknob humping retards? Lol! Do you know why people drive with their masks on? So they don’t lick the windows.

JC
JC
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 8:25 am

Dilly Dilly!!!!!!! LMAO

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
January 12, 2021 10:20 pm

Missouri is #7. Construction of new houses in the now semi-rural area I live in is out of control this past year. I want to know where these people are from. If they are from NY or CA, I told my husband we need to re-educate those people. Or make their lives very uncomfortable.

NTS
NTS
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 1:32 am

Yes. If they vote left, they have to return to the state they left. They can leave on their feet or in a bag.

MMinAR
MMinAR
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 4:51 am

AR!!! is #2. WTF?

Ken31
Ken31
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 8:44 am

When we moved from California, I had to explain to all the neighbors how I am not really “from” California and that they could relax.

mark
mark
  Ken31
January 14, 2021 8:53 pm

As a guy who has been called a Soprano Redneck (Exit 9) once ‘most’ rock solid people see who you really…where you come from…and all the other ‘stuff’ doesn’t matter.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Llpoh
January 15, 2021 11:11 am

You’ll never have to worry about the commies moving to WV

Stucky
Stucky
  Articles of Confederation
January 12, 2021 9:48 pm

Jeezus, some people are stupid beyond belief. Everyone knows the proper way to kill a raccoon is with a 2 x 4.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Stucky
January 12, 2021 10:08 pm

I exterminated 3 of those garbage can raiding bastards last summer with a .22 caliber Mendoza pellet rifle. I never got the sow, but Big Daddy and their 2 babies got it. Since last May I’ve killed 112 blackbirds, 4 pigeons, and about a dozen bird feeder occupying squirrels. There’s a damn sparrow hawk that’s about to get it, too, any day now.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Coalclinker
January 12, 2021 10:45 pm

LMFAO, my down voters sure wouldn’t like living in Eastern Kentucky, where there’s always a moving target.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 1:36 am

Please leave the sparrow hawk alone. The rest are fine. Apex predators, such as hawks and eagles, should be left alone.

My opinion, anyway. And I suspect the hawk is the reason for the down votes.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 7:51 am

I suppose it lives alone and kills anything that is alive. Err the reason why it lives alone.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 8:34 am

My problem is few birds will come to my feeder due to the constant raids by the sparrow hawk. I don’t want to eliminate the hawk, for it needs to eat, too. Anyone got any solutions to scaring it off?

Fedup
Fedup
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 12:49 pm

Anyone got any solutions to scaring it off?

By feeding the birds you are contributing to a population of birds that are dependent on your feed. The result is an increase in their population and more competition for natural resources amongst the population. When/if you stop feeding them your dependent flock can/will perish.
So quit baiting his prey to your location.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Fedup
January 13, 2021 6:16 pm

Oh, so I shouldn’t enjoy the beauty of song birds in my backyard? You just made up my mind on my dilemma. One shot and I no longer have the problem for which so many down voted me for.

Fedup
Fedup
  Coalclinker
January 14, 2021 8:40 am

so I shouldn’t enjoy the beauty of song birds in my backyard?

and I no longer have the problem for…

You are a self absorbed simpleton, that’s the biggest problem.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Fedup
January 15, 2021 8:51 pm

“You are a self absorbed SIMPLETON”
So, what’s your level of education?
And by the way, go fuck yourself.

musket
musket
  Fedup
January 14, 2021 4:11 pm

It’s called welfare….

starfcker
starfcker
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 5:42 pm

Shoot it. you cannot live in harmony with predators. Because they are……………… well, predators. They kill things everyday. That’s what they do. If you shoot it, it won’t have to eat anymore. And the birds you enjoy watching will be safe. You will have done the job of a real man, protecting what cannot protect itself. Worship of predators, particularly apex predators is one of the tenets of liberalism. It ignores facts. Don’t fall into that

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  starfcker
January 13, 2021 6:21 pm

I used to fill that big feeder twice a day. Now it’s down to once every 2 days, meaning my visitors have dropped by 3/4ths. Now people suggest suggest I stop the feeding, all over one creature causing all of the trouble. It’s a pretty stark fact, isn’t it?

Ghost
Ghost
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 7:19 pm

Pull the trigger, man!

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Ghost
January 13, 2021 7:54 pm

It’s been around here for over a year. I didn’t mind it grabbing an old or sick one every now and then, but now it’s all the time and now the only time birds feed is at twilight

starfcker
starfcker
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 9:12 pm

Coalclinker, a friend of mine has a koi pond and some of the fish he has had for 15 or 20 years. He has a wonderful creek behind his house that ties directly into the Caloosahatchee river, full of all kinds of things, including a big softshell turtle that he and his family fed almost everyday for at least that amount of time. He welcomed the arrival of otters in the creek, a friend of his who works as a biologist at the Fakahatchee Strand State Preserve told him it was proof that the ecosystem was “healing”. His world just had a big dose of “healing”. First they found the big turtle destroyed. I told him I was the otters, he refused to believe that. His cat disappeared. I told him it was the otters, he refused to believe that. Then he found the otter in his koi pond, and it had already killed every single fish, evidently just for the fun of it. I wish I knew how to post pictures, I’ve got a great shot of that otter on the tailgate of my truck. It won’t be killing anything else at his house. He wouldn’t believe me, that the thing is just a giant weasel, and just as bloodthirsty as any other kind of weasel. PBS would have you believe that they are just fun and playful animals. He learned the hard way.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  starfcker
January 13, 2021 11:16 pm

I think this weekend it’s going to be stool sitting time by my open kitchen window.

starfcker
starfcker
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 11:22 pm

😉

starfcker
starfcker
  starfcker
January 14, 2021 12:30 am

I actually hate to kill things, I’m soft as a baby’s ass when it comes to critters. But if I have to defend my own critters, so be it. Sucks to be the predator. And I’m interested in big predators, we went looking for panthers and bears on Sunday. But I know you can’t protect anything for long with them around. they need to be rare, and they need to be in remote places. In Florida, we are starting to be overwhelmed by apex predators, because we have protected them all for 50 years. and they are starting to overwhelm the food chain

Short Timer
Short Timer
  starfcker
January 14, 2021 11:14 am

My X’s dad lived in Florida in his final years. Had a bear tearing up his property. He complained to animal control. They shrugged their shoulders so he killed it. The authorities came and removed all his firearms.
I don’t know how that ended legally because he passed in ’14.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Short Timer
January 15, 2021 8:52 pm

He didn’t obey the 3 S’s of avoiding such problems:
Shoot (quietly), Shovel, and Shut Up.

mark
mark
  starfcker
January 14, 2021 9:06 pm

starfcker.

Me too…but when it comes to protecting my animals or my food…including my property/barn…I never hesitate.

I will trap and release (there is a swamp not far) but I do what I feel I have to…when I have to do it.

starfcker
starfcker
  mark
January 15, 2021 6:49 pm

I do the same. But sometimes it’s your animals or them. It’s unpleasant to me, but it’s just part of things. It is what it is.

tabernac
tabernac
  Llpoh
January 14, 2021 12:56 am

Yeah, We are raising some chickens just for the hawks and foxes and racoons.
That’s what they think anyway…

theOtherDan
theOtherDan
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 12:31 pm

If I downvoted (I don’t) it would have been because you failed to get big momma

Tom Lindley
Tom Lindley
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 3:53 pm

Quit killing dozens of innocent animals, asshole.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Tom Lindley
January 13, 2021 6:23 pm

Hey mister, go stick it up your ass!

Tom Lindley
Tom Lindley
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 10:12 pm

Do that to yourself with that .22 caliber air rifle you use to kill animals and pull the trigger. Nothing of value will have been lost.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Tom Lindley
January 13, 2021 11:11 pm

LOL, why kill yourself when you can kill something or someone?

brian
brian
  Tom Lindley
January 13, 2021 7:39 pm

How do you know they are innocent???

RiNS
RiNS
  brian
January 14, 2021 6:36 am

Well Brian, in the world according to Social Justice Tom, animals like his People of Colour Friends, are incapable of destroying property needlessly or hurting our fellow men.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  Coalclinker
January 14, 2021 7:10 pm

Worse than a feral cat.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Stucky
January 12, 2021 10:27 pm

The truly terrifying concern is when you stop and consider how absolutely stupid the average person in the US (and the world) is…and then that fully 50% of the population is even more stunningly dumb than the average dumb person….
Maybe the Georgia Guidestones really are onto something, and Idiocracy really isn’t a movie but a documentary of the future??

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Saxons Wrath
January 12, 2021 10:52 pm

r/K selection theory. I touched on that in that last article I wrote. It’s fascinating.

NoLongerLurkinginNY
NoLongerLurkinginNY
  Articles of Confederation
January 13, 2021 7:42 am

Stef molyneaux did a series of podcasts on r/k repro strategies a couple of years ago when his podcast was listenable. They are worth the time

very old white guy
very old white guy
  Saxons Wrath
January 13, 2021 6:56 am

A paraphrase of a George Calin quote. He has been on my mind a great deal these days.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Saxons Wrath
January 13, 2021 7:54 am

50% come on now there is no way that even 100 mill voted. Let that sink in……………devil a devil b they both cheated and joe ………like he said created the greatest election fraud machine in the history of mankind. The bigger criminal won. The crooks are in control. Have been since 1913 Wake up 99 % are fooled.

flash
flash
  Saxons Wrath
January 13, 2021 1:36 pm

Intelligence got nothing to do with idiocy… it’s all about the positive energy, bruh.

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
  Saxons Wrath
January 14, 2021 3:38 pm

It’s inevitable when welfare encourages the dumb people to breed like crazy, while the smarter people are barely making ends meet, and have maybe 2 kids…

Tree Mike
Tree Mike
  Stucky
January 12, 2021 10:52 pm

Fuggin aaaayyyyyyyyy right!

Shotgun Trooper
Shotgun Trooper
  Stucky
January 12, 2021 11:55 pm

Yeah, I got in trouble for bashing one with my shotgun butt as a kid. Out of ammo. Broke the stock. Got my butt whipped.

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
January 13, 2021 7:56 am

Rocky is sadly missed..

Although methinks he wuz misgendered,
ballz cut off in a tragic lawnmower accident.
Ol’ Elton had a sad the day his head caved in..

Rocky was actuallly named Diana

Lyrics from the song..
written by the funeral.

And it seems to me he lived his life
Like an animal with a grin
Never knowing which branch to cling to
When his head caved in
And I would’ve liked to know you
But I was just to never been
Stuck snuffed it out long before
Your legend ever did

And yep folks dem are tears in xirs eyes
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Ol’ Rocky had a gift
Xee could see the future
And what that big Galoot did…

Stucky
Stucky
  RiNS
January 13, 2021 9:18 am

LOL LOL

RiNS
RiNS
  Stucky
January 13, 2021 10:05 am

No need to worry mein freund! Lord Odin would approve of the way you dispatched that fellow.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  RiNS
January 13, 2021 8:18 pm

That’s the look the 25 pounder one in my neighbor’s garbage can had. Crazy Mikey came over here from across the street and asked, “Don’t you have something that will get rid of it?” I told him, “You’re the one with the artillery!” He said, ” But it’s a .300 Winchester Magnum, and it’ll cause the police to get called out here!”

bigfoot
bigfoot
January 12, 2021 8:46 pm

I’ve got one who sees the flag-waving crowds in D. C. recently as being the same as the crowds burning down buildings everywhere a few months ago. “Stop the hate,” she says, and let Biden get to work repairing things. She’s always voted conservative until now.

“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of their folly is to fill the world with fools.” Herbert Spencer

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  bigfoot
January 12, 2021 8:48 pm

Most of these idiots will be begging in soup lines soon enough. Hunger has a way of killing you or making you wiser.

The 47th Element
The 47th Element
  Articles of Confederation
January 12, 2021 9:24 pm

This convinces me much of the migration is tied to materialist personal economics, much more so than personal politics or philosophies. Many of the migrants are going to prosperous states with less taxation and regulation, not realizing the true reasons why and how those destinations created such wealth in the first place.
You’re right. When the financial bottom falls out of this country, the fools and the poor will suffer the most.

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
  Articles of Confederation
January 14, 2021 3:43 pm

No, they’ll be printing money like crazy, and planning to seize your retirement accounts to feed the masses…that won’t work, and then the US is Venezuela, without the oil reserves…

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  pyrrhuis
January 16, 2021 10:09 am

Easily remedied in 30-60 minutes with a tractor! I will leave it as I found it.

Anyone who still has the bulk of his or her wealth tied up in retirement funds deserves to lose it as this point. Possession is 9/10 of the law.

Joe
Joe
January 12, 2021 8:51 pm

Meaning no disrespect, Fuck, I hate that, but, I like you and your posts!, but, there is no cure for stupid relatives. Actually there is, but, it depends on no snitches. Lots of buts. Fuck it. Shoot the stupid Motherfucker. I will not be buried under “He was a Nice Guy”, because the next word is “But ….. .”

As trained to be an engineer my grammar and punctuation sucks, deal with it.

Best of Luck

Joe

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Joe
January 12, 2021 8:55 pm

Joe – no disrespect taken. People can be nice and at the same time destructive. They do not know any better, and in many cases will not until they are hungry and homeless. That relative would welcome you with open arms, give you the shirt off his back, and treat you as well as you would be treated anywhere. But his attitudes in general cause great harm to society. It is quite a paradox.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
  Llpoh
January 12, 2021 9:45 pm

You just described my cousin. He’d do anything for anyone especially friends and kin but his political ideology will kill us all.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Cow Doctor
January 12, 2021 10:21 pm

I have a nephew like that. My only living close relative I have left from my immediate family. It’s a damn shame.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Llpoh
January 12, 2021 10:15 pm

My sister is like that. She has an $1,000,000+ Shit Francisco condominium she can’t sell, and went and bought a house about 300 miles South, still in California. All she talks about is that damn Virus, and told me the other day that she and her live-in haven’t had anyone visit their house since last February, they’re so scared of it. That’s all she talks about. I can’t believe that she and I have the same mother.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Coalclinker
January 12, 2021 10:40 pm

Yeah, I have a sister AND a brother who drank deep and long from the leftist koolaid, they live in masks, think Trump is the antichrist, that Biden hung the moon and big government is the answer. I wasn’t too thrilled with their politics in the past but now that they’ve been wired into the Borg, they lost any ability for rational thought, analytical thought or just thought in general.
All they do is parrot their script…orangemanbad, government good and be very afraid, but the vaccine gonna fix ya. They didn’t start out like this and I am now convinced that they have been taken over by pods from outer space….

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Mygirl....maybe
January 12, 2021 11:16 pm

Yep my sister and brother are fucking commie rats….we don’t speak…..One is a college prof (marxist) and the other is a homeless advocate……..sweet jesus save us.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Martel's Hammer
January 13, 2021 9:23 pm

Dogon, ya’ll makin me feel blessed that nearly all my kin are red blooded patriots.

OHMama
OHMama
  Mygirl....maybe
January 12, 2021 11:18 pm

Do you guys think there is any possibility that cell phones might be being used to somehow hypnotize/ control people? I know, it sounds right up there crazy with lizard people, but people really do seem to be even more irrational now than they ever were in the past. The use of the word triggered in modern context is interesting, because hypnotic programming uses trigger words to induce involuntary reactions in the brain. DARPA was messing around quite a lot with mind control, plus the MKUltra experiments, it would not surprise me at all to find that they had uncovered a covert and effective way to short circuit or manipulate people’s responses and brain function. Purely anecdotal, but the people I know who are most cell phone obsessed are also the most Covid obsessed and the most rabidly Biden/progressive. The things are also definitely addictive; I can’t really think of any other kind of technology that is comparable in that regard, except perhaps TV, which also have a lot of mind control roots attached to it (it isn’t called programming for nothing).

Or it might all just be the product of a bored society stressed out by an unnatural modern world that it’s traumatized brains cannot cope with so it is going full on Salem witch hunt looney.

Just a thought, the mass psychosis we are living through really interests/amazes/scares me.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  OHMama
January 12, 2021 11:53 pm

Televisión is the greatest brainwashing tool known to man. Smart phones are little TV’s. There are many people who are highly suggestible and easily manipulated, they lack critical thinking skills, operate on emotional rather than intellectual levels and are embarrassingly insecure and yet full of themselves. They are also perpetually immature, arrested development at age thirteen.

I don’t own a teevee, nor a smart phone, I eschew all social media and don’t miss it, but then, I haven’t been programmed since birth by the ultimate propaganda purveyors. You are definitely onto something with the phones et al…

OHMama
OHMama
  Mygirl....maybe
January 13, 2021 12:39 am

Isn’t it funny how most TBPers probably don’t use cell phones or TVs much, and are also not at all under the Covid or progressivism spell? Same with the Amish, no use for either, and they are also not duped by Covid or the ‘woke” nonsense.

Saami Jim
Saami Jim
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 7:33 am

OH Mama
Yeah, my Amish friend Titus told me about his one neighbor:
“Jim, when he comes over, he is worried so much about what he sees on TV, he says he can hardly do anything anymore. Me, I just get up in the morning and go to work, I don’t have any of that stuff bothering me.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Saami Jim
January 13, 2021 3:11 pm

Yeah, SOUNDS nice, but these devices– even though increasingly spout propaganda/fake news– still might give you a heads up when the stormtroopers are on their way.
And your Amish friend will be saying, “Wha happened?”

OHMama
OHMama
  Anonymous
January 13, 2021 8:09 pm

And the stormtroopers will be on their way because you’re carrying around a GPS device telling them where you are 🙂

Doc
Doc
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 10:51 pm

Agreed – I have an ancient flip-phone and no TV.

tabernac
tabernac
  Mygirl....maybe
January 14, 2021 1:02 am

Twilight Zone was good

OHMama
OHMama
  tabernac
January 14, 2021 3:34 am

It was great as a TV show, not so much now that we’re living in it.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 12:12 am

Damn, never thought about it. And it’s interesting, because I’d just as soon toss my cell in a lake. My wife complains because I never have it with me.

OHMama
OHMama
  Articles of Confederation
January 13, 2021 12:40 am

Same here, Hubby has a flip phone for work (refuses to get a spying smart phone and put his foot down when work wanted him to have one). I have no cell phone and never have, also don’t watch TV at all, and he hardly watches any either.

very old white guy
very old white guy
  Articles of Confederation
January 13, 2021 7:06 am

I carry a flip phone for emergencies but it is rarely turned on. I turn it on if I am away from town and need to speak with my wife or vice versa.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  very old white guy
January 13, 2021 10:46 am

I like flip phones and refuse to have a smart one. Getting harder to get one and have a phone service like Verizon carry it.
There’s something in my nature, my very being, that hates group think and groups in general. Glee clubs and organizations of any kind are anathema to me. I especially dislike women dominated social groups, I’m not a girly girl and I don’t relate to the topics that seem to intrigue most women. I’m much more comfortable in the company of men.

OHMama
OHMama
  Mygirl....maybe
January 13, 2021 8:10 pm

Same here. I’ve always worked in a male dominated industry (agriculture) and MUCH prefer it. Logic driven, very little drama, conflicts settled quickly and then everyone moves on. Went to an all girls school in high school and it was hell on earth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 7:58 am

search smartdust motes starlink WAKE up

Ghost
Ghost
  Anonymous
January 15, 2021 7:14 am

In 1997, the researcher Kristofer Pister coined the term ‘smart dust’ to describe these millimetre-sized devices. Pister and his colleagues at the University of California, Berkeley, aimed to create a network of sensors made up of tiny wireless computer systems called ‘motes’. Acting as microscopic eyes, ears and arms, these motes could rove around the world collecting all kinds of data: visual, thermal, chemical and biological. In theory, smart dust could revolutionise industries by reaching places scientists never thought possible.

Microscopic ‘smart dust’ sensors are set to revolutionise a range of sectors

Scary shit there…

MistaShift
MistaShift
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 9:55 am

I’ve told people for years that the ultimate purpose of smart phone technology is to enslave us. The usual response is to look back at me like I have three heads, so I continue, “It would be hard to design a better tracking and control system. And the irony? The controllers didn’t have to pay a cent for it! Because we paid for the hardware build out, systems and operations.”

Other than microwaving our brains, I doubt that there is much direct mind control going on, because it isn’t needed to control people. Most hardcore cell users stay on FaceBook, Twitter, and maybe a few news propaganda services for many hours a day. They get their dopamine hits, along with some fear programming, confusion, mental fragmentation, passivization and wasted time.

The technocracy entities don’t even have to agree on how to do all this mind destruction. It’s built into their business models. They don’t have to consider moral implications. Sort of a drug dealer mentality. Eventually the product zombifies the customer though.

ChurchMouse
ChurchMouse
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 10:35 am

The lizard people are laughing at you.

Does anyone remember that Ch Bronson movie “Telefon” ?

Black Pete
Black Pete
  ChurchMouse
January 15, 2021 6:50 am

Never watched “The Manchurian Candidate”

javelin
javelin
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 10:45 am

No doubt– even the designers of Facebook/Twitter etc said they hired psychologists/etc to study how to addict the masses to yearn for a thumbs up or social validation through posting–creepy chit.

Many of my friends don’t understand my phone “habits.” I hear comments like” you are so hard to get a hold of”– because I mostly don’t have my phone on my physical person. When at work it stays in my desk or bag with my laptop–when at home it is dropped on the dresser with the wallet and keys when I get out of my work clothes.

If someone calls, like the old days it may be a few hours before I check the device and call back. This infuriates people but is how the phone world worked until the past 20 years and 99% of calls aren’t that urgent.
Never had a facebook or twitting acct.. just seems to be a low-brow, time waster ( I don’t care what you ate, watched on TV, your opinion on the sports ball game, how bad traffic was, or some cloying meme about Live/Love/Laugh or the meaning of true happiness)..

I read, I garden, I build things, I work.. I do like forensic shows, and some History channel and/or Discovery channel shows but otherwise TV is 1000+ channels of crap. I try and watch an occasional movie but rarely get through a half hour before The Agenda starts.. you know what I mean, the white girl and strong black guy couple, the evil white man is always the protagonist, the noble gay guy, the lesbian kissing, and of course- the 100 lb lady who beats up an entire battalion worth of evil, fascist/racist white dudes.

Who would subject themselves to this crap? And the other question, how could those who pollute their minds with this crap daily NOT end up as unthinking zombies, fully programmed to the agenda and believing the things spewing from their electronics is actually reality? ( think of those who simply parrot the MSM talking points but couldn’t hold a discussion or even answer a deeper question on the issues.)

LLPOH– I have been saying for several years on this site that Trump ( four or eight years) was only delaying a demographic certainty. red states turn purple then blue, amnesty for 20 million additional blue voters is coming, conservative older people will die off– it is INEVITABLE. Florida, Texas, Arizona will follow the direction of Virginia and it will be over for at least a generation.

Stucky
Stucky
  javelin
January 13, 2021 11:02 am

We may have had quibble here and there over the years but ….

For a second I thought I was reading my own post. Agree with you one thousand percent regarding social media CRAP and television CRAP.

I also watch some History and Discovery …. in addition to Science and Nat Geo (I like animal stuff). And IU basketball. The other gazillion offerings are pure CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!!

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Stucky
January 13, 2021 8:02 pm

I got rid of it all about 6 or 7 years ago; I can’t remember exactly when so it wasn’t exactly a great loss. One day I was looking in a mirror and realized that 50+ channels of nothingness at $200 per month suddenly proved I was a rank idiot

OHMama
OHMama
  javelin
January 13, 2021 8:13 pm

Once you see the agenda in the programming, you cannot unsee it. It has completely ruined movies for both my husband and me (not much loss, I must say). I cannot bring myself to sit through anything Hollywood produces anymore.

Tr4head
Tr4head
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 12:12 pm

Possible but always look to Occams Razor for answers. Simplest is usually the best. Having witnessed and written about (inc. TBP) I am convinced more than ever now that the push to insanity is all from one source – the MSM. None, and I mean none, of the shit we are going thru now would happen without the daily, incessent lies coming from them. And more importantly they have relinquished their historical role as journalists that ALWAYS promoted true liberalism (in good sense) and went after overbearing power. 25 years ago Tim Cook would be facing reporters on his front lawn daily until he stopped his war against free speech and liberty. Same with the heads of Goldman Sachs, AIG and JP Morgan – all of whom the people they cancel bailed them out in 2008.

Its the MSM. Until they are busted up we dont have a chance.

DS
DS
  Tr4head
January 14, 2021 2:39 pm

Yup, you’re right. The only other entity that could be busted up first and a difference would be made is the Fed — but that a’int likely unless/until full-on $ collapse. Media dissolution is the key — politicians and corporations are covered by a corrupt media, so the people are blinded on purpose. Many quite willingly

kevx
kevx
  OHMama
January 13, 2021 4:53 pm

brain aliasing – inducing endorphin response. i did notice i can no longer change screen refresh rates and everything is locked to 60hz. the screen flashy flashy in video games has caused siezures. i have also read that the little ‘you have email’ ding does cause a dopamine response…

Black Pete
Black Pete
  OHMama
January 15, 2021 6:44 am

Read “Subliminal Seduction” by Brian Key.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl....maybe
January 13, 2021 7:58 am

wait till they get the chip……….

BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
  Mygirl....maybe
January 13, 2021 11:28 am

My Girl…when they come for food make them recant before one grain is given to them.

As for me …not one person in my family who is Left leaning will be feed,housed or protected . Piss on them…I tried in a calm manner to explain that Socialism,Open Borders etc. is bad. They voted for Biden..they can live with that choice .

subwo
subwo
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 9:54 am

Everything sells when the price meets sellers and buyers agreement. She just needs to ask less.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Llpoh
January 12, 2021 10:30 pm

Ignorance is Strength…
War is Peace…
Some Animals are more equal than others…
And pigs will eat everything, including bodies….
Just FYI…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Saxons Wrath
January 13, 2021 9:14 am

And debt is wealth.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
January 12, 2021 8:57 pm

Thank goodness everyone thinks Eastern Kentucky is a shithole. Few left coasters or north easterners would ever move here. Yes, there is poverty and lots of drug addiction, but soon every other place will be as poor as we are, and the dope fiends end up dying off far sooner than the sober minded.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
  Coalclinker
January 12, 2021 9:08 pm

That’s why I’m going to WY or the panhandle of NE. The Liberal Progessive shit birds could never survive there

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Cow Doctor
January 12, 2021 9:10 pm

I love WY. But damn what a terrible place for the type of orchard I want.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Articles of Confederation
January 12, 2021 10:00 pm

On the other hand, for tomato lovers, beefsteak tomatoes came out of Appalachia. Isolated farms provided the limited cross pollination needed for such unique strains to develop. Supposedly the first beefsteak tomato plant was a lone seedling found germinating by chance out of a mound of flood debris down in Logan County, West Virginia.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Coalclinker
January 12, 2021 10:56 pm

You guys had some great apple cultivars, too. Pretty sure Golden Delicious came from there, which was a seedling of Grimes Golden. I have a couple of the latter, none of the former.

Warren
Warren
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 4:53 pm

My ex ‘ s family used to grow tomatoes 🍅for Campbell Soup in the western coal region

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Cow Doctor
January 12, 2021 9:53 pm

If a fellow found an Eastern Kentucky farm with free natural gas, that had a few hillside springs, up some deep hollow off an unpaved road 20 miles from pavement, he could literally fall off the face of humanity.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
  Coalclinker
January 12, 2021 10:04 pm

That sounds so wonderful

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Dirtperson Steve
January 12, 2021 10:10 pm

There’s a lot of them. You just have to go looking.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Dirtperson Steve
January 12, 2021 10:57 pm

WV has some beautiful terrain. Just gotta be careful where you choose. Meth all over.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Articles of Confederation
January 13, 2021 12:17 am

Those people don’t come around where they think they’re likely to get shot. About 10 years ago I had Pill Central right behind me, across the alley. One night I had company and my neighbor Bill called at about midnight to tell me some guy wearing a hoodie was looking through one of my garage windows. I had a pistol in my hand in about a second and told him I was heading out there. He showed up out there too, saying, “That god damned son of a bitch was standing right there looking through that window, and he was wearing a hoodie!” Moments after that, Pill Central’s son hollered out from behind their garage, saying, “I’m back here by our garage and I’m wearing a hoodie.”
LOL, Bill shouted at him and said,”You’re going to get your ass shot off one of these days!” I never had anymore trouble from that set of trash.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Articles of Confederation
January 13, 2021 12:33 am

Druggies have a habit of doing each other in, either by dope or by violence. Just down the hill from me, February before last, two druggies got into it and a woman was stabbed over 40 times. It was the first murder in the neighborhood since 1965, when a man was stabbed to death. That poor man happened to be Charles Manson’s uncle, but the law couldn’t prove it and he skipped town to head out west..

Shotgun Trooper
Shotgun Trooper
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 12:07 am

Or start his own tv show. All he’d have to do is buy some coveralls and fake bein a moonshiner… Oh, Wait, they did that.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Shotgun Trooper
January 13, 2021 9:23 am

Olive Hill in Carter County is supposedly moonshine heaven. All business is very close to the vest, by word of mouth of close friends and family only.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Cow Doctor
January 12, 2021 11:19 pm

I thought Bozeman would be OK….nope Bozangeles! Gotta get out of here….but due to my 4X bypass I am pretty limited on snow shoveling…….Hmmm Eastern KY sounding pretty good.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Martel's Hammer
January 13, 2021 12:56 am

The springs here are cool, wet, and usually beautiful. As you go into summer, it will get pretty dry and you’ll have temperatures in the 90s. Sometimes we do have cold winters, and sometimes a lot of snow. It’s been unusually cold here since November, and I woke up Christmas morning with 8 inches of snow on the ground. I fed the deer real well for a few days; I’d have 7 or 8 at a time. I put out corn every day for them, and they are entertaining.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 9:47 am

Sounds great. We are a ski town and get lots of snow! Though this year has not been too bad so far. I used to live on a small ranch outside of town, with Elk and bears and wolves occasionally. It was awesome listening to the coyotes at night and seeing the elk move through doing their circuit. I sold that place and living in town sucks…BLM flags, rainbow flags….arrgh.

MT is a generally conservative place though we are getting tons of West Coasters and all the baggage that comes with them.

Copperhead
Copperhead
  Martel's Hammer
January 13, 2021 1:06 am

My Son calls Bozeman the same thing thing, he is a junior at Montana State. I knew a lot of out of staters were moving there but didn’t realize how bad it was until I dropped him off last week for new semester. The drivers were atrocious, was cut off many times. Starting to see the same thing up here in NW Montana, not to happy about it.

Machinist
Machinist
  Copperhead
January 13, 2021 5:52 am

If Biden is installed, Bozeman may become Bozwoman.

Martel's Hammer
Martel's Hammer
  Copperhead
January 13, 2021 9:49 am

Kalispell is becoming Seattle/Portland east! MSU is a great place to go to school not nearly as PC as most places now. I can remember not so long ago that we had zero traffic and I could go a week without seeing an LEO patrolling.

Ken31
Ken31
  Cow Doctor
January 13, 2021 8:53 am

They really call that a panhandle in Nebraska?

subwo
subwo
  Ken31
January 13, 2021 10:05 am

Its because the NE and OK land is on top and bottom of CO, land of panhandelers.

BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
  Cow Doctor
January 13, 2021 11:35 am

CW…Wyoming is a great place. I hunt around Hulett every year. Look at South Dakota too. Around the Custer area .

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Cow Doctor
January 13, 2021 12:38 pm

Panhandle of Nebraska–wiiiiiiiiide open spaces. Get off Interstate 80 and go northwest from Lexington. Have a full tank of gas.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Coalclinker
January 13, 2021 8:00 am

two names RAND and MITCH

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Anonymous
January 13, 2021 8:43 am

Those people are not thought of highly in this state. They have dropped their masks and everyone knows what they really are.

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
January 12, 2021 8:58 pm

We kicked out that phony Joe Cunningham from Congress in Charleston/Beaufort/HHI with the 1st female Citidel grad, despite being massively underfunded. But, The Swisher (aka our senior senator) who owes his re-election to Trumo, then turns his back on him, proves to be a piece of sh*t.

Alan Wilson (SG AG, & Rep. Joe’s “You Lie, You Lie, You Lie in 2009 to Obama” son) will beat the crap out of him if Alan decides to run in 6 yrs.

SC & AL will be the last redoubts of sanity in the US, mebbe ID/WY.

August
August
  lamont cranston
January 13, 2021 1:13 am

Would you please do something about Stephen Colbert?

Thanks in advance.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
January 12, 2021 9:06 pm

It’s the same story here in Colorado. 10 to 15 years ago it was a solid Red state. Now it’s as blue as California. My Dad has been in the same house in a Western Suburb of Denver for 52 years. All ofgthe old neighbors that I grew up with are gone, most of them passed. The new people moving in have BLM signs and flags and Biden signs everywhere during the election. Majority are from CA and IL. That’s why I’m bugging out to WY or NE when my Dad passes. At least I won’t F up my new states political identity.

Taibhse
Taibhse
  Cow Doctor
January 12, 2021 11:58 pm

I grew up in Denver and left for Cheyenne last year. Should have done it five years ago

MMinAR
MMinAR
  Cow Doctor
January 13, 2021 5:04 am

10-15 years ago CO WAS NOT a solid red state. I moved there in 1970 and District 1 had a R Congressman. In the early to mid 80s is when the decline started with Canadians and Californians pouring in.

It continued somewhat abated for several decades and by the end of the aughts when the GOPe abandoned Tom Tancredo and CO legalized reefer was the end for me. Moved in 2011 to w Texas and never looked back on what is now a shithole. Even the Springs, wow.

Saw the EXACT same thing happening in TX and figured AR would surely be off their list. Nope, turns out it’s now a hot spot for relocating locusts.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
  MMinAR
January 13, 2021 8:19 am

With the exception of Denver and Boulder it was. Slowly turned Purple then Blue. Maybe 20 years but Colorado was once red.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
  Cow Doctor
January 13, 2021 1:12 pm

MMinAR you’re very correct Colorado is now a shithole

kevx
kevx
  Cow Doctor
January 13, 2021 6:09 pm

i live west of fort collins and we have community. but i work near boulder so i have to commute through it everyday. not to mention the sheriff of weld county isnt supporting any of this crap. if we can get rid of polis and hickestooper then i think we have a chance at getting back to nature

James
James
January 12, 2021 9:16 pm

Sigh…..,time to fight back,if you did not already know.

To those who did know hope your zeros in place/supplies ready to travel/see ya’s on the other side.

The games begin,play to win.

ED
ED
January 12, 2021 9:19 pm

I lost another friend today over text. He wasn’t a friend anyway. Weed them out, family and all. You’ll be much better off for it.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  ED
January 13, 2021 12:47 pm

Well at least we will know who to educate.

kevx
kevx
  ED
January 13, 2021 6:12 pm

i lost a military friend who was saying that the storming of the capitol building was an act of terrorism. and he is vietnam military – yup he blocked me for calling out his BS. this is a guy i stood up for to senior supervisors for their mis-treatment but none of that is considered
Even if the capitol was stormed by team trump, this is what the constitution prepared us for when our government is overreaching…

Jack
Jack
January 12, 2021 9:20 pm

Haha..
Every family, has one.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Jack
January 12, 2021 9:39 pm

Mine has many more than one.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 12, 2021 9:43 pm

The whole country’s gonna be commie. I don’t know which part will be worse – having to turn vegan or getting gay-married.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Iska Waran
January 12, 2021 9:48 pm

Like any self-respecting gay would go anywhere near you.

😁

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Llpoh
January 12, 2021 10:24 pm

They should be so lucky. I might even gay-marry a Jewish guy.

starfcker
starfcker
  Iska Waran
January 13, 2021 12:47 am

Thanks for sharing

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
January 13, 2021 3:48 pm

Okay, you’ve officially left the reservation.

DRUD
DRUD
  Iska Waran
January 13, 2021 12:08 pm

The term “Gay” (ie Homosexual) suggests that sex is a real thing rather than a way you feel.

You are a Transphobe!

KaD
KaD
January 12, 2021 9:48 pm

Not to mention Criminal Biden and the Whore of new Babylon will be happy to do what her jew husband and jews generally want and import 10 million plus useless eaters, mostly africans and muslime, a year until America is overrun with savages raping their way through the locals with impunity. Within a few years white people will have no say, not that we do now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  KaD
January 13, 2021 3:48 pm

Fourth Turning, CivWar II, kill them all.

flash
flash
January 12, 2021 9:52 pm

I’ve never met anyone from California. What are they like ?

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  flash
January 12, 2021 10:23 pm

If they’re like anyone who moved there and has been there for 30 years, they’re all fucked up in the head, just like my sister.

August
August
  flash
January 13, 2021 1:16 am

More-or-less like you see on TeeVee. But they think they’re for real.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
  flash
January 13, 2021 12:10 pm

We are not all communist shit bags stuck in Marxist Stockholm Syndrome. There are about 8million left in the state that are not complete tool bags. The other 40million are either walk-ins voting to retake Norte Cal for Mexico or socialist fucktards milking the handout cock. And moat liberal transplants do bring their garbage politics and economics with them. They are worse than locusts. They are hordes of fleas on the backs of the real working Americans.

I told what remains of my kin there to get the fuck out, but I was the only one smart enough to leave to a red state soo purple and then blue (commie yellow and red).

Polishing brass on the Titanic now. It is now or never more than ever before.

mark
mark
January 12, 2021 10:01 pm

Hey…don’t shoot the optimistic messenger…who spent two hours today working on his spider holes…and oiling his mags…I needed a lift!

SOMETHING TRULY AWESOME IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN
Posted on January 12, 2021 by State of the Nation

SOMETHING TRULY AWESOME IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN

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No Matter Who’s Inaugurated, Trump Has Already Won—BIG TIME!
More accurately, We the People have won.
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Think about it!

The January 6th Electoral College vote certification process by Congress was totally blown up — THAT’S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. NOTHING EVEN CLOSE.

The Capitol Building was stormed — NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. NOTHING EVEN CLOSE.

Now here we are fast approaching Inauguration Day, and Washington, D.C. is being rapidly transformed into a heavily fortified city fortress — NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. NOTHING EVEN CLOSE.

Do you get it yet?!

That the power elite inside the Beltway is so friggin’ afraid of the fully armed 80 million-strong Patriot Movement speaks volumes, yes? YES?!?!

It had to happen this way, folks.

Trump has the Democrat communists, Deep State traitors and NWO Globalist enemies of the Republic all on the defensive.

They don’t know if they’re comin’ or goin’. FOR REAL!

That’s why they’re desperately and recklessly moving forward with both the 25th Amendment and Impeachment. The Democrat election thieves are beside themselves with sheer fright and total trepidation.

Why?

Because Team Trump has them all dead to rights, that’s why!

The critical point here is that the whole world is watching the United States of America completely lock down the fake inauguration of imposter Joe Biden because of his naked theft of the 2020 POTUS election.

The mere public presentation of such a pitiful spectacle is waking up people across the planet to the stark reality that the Democrats just pulled off the greatest election heist in world history.

Now that’s big—VERY BIG!

What’s “VERY BIG” is the swiftly growing awareness of such a massive, complex crime spree committed by all the usual anti-American suspects.

And, as such a brutal anti-DEMOCRATIC reality sets into the minds of Americans and other national citizenries alike, an unparalleled sea change is slowly but surely taking place.

When this vital consciousness-raising has run its course, it’s going to be quite beautiful. And, as President Trump loves to say: “It’s going to be tremendous!”

But what exactly does that sea change really look like? As follows:
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THE OLD WORLD ORDER
IS ABOUT TO DISSOLVE
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We have one caveat pertaining to this utterly unstoppable scenario of global transformation.
There will be a quite dramatic and wholly unpredictable transitional period (it’s already started) that will undoubtedly unfold in fits and starts.

There will appear to be losses right after victories for the Trump Movement. And also wins right after defeats. That’s okay. It always happens this way when the dark side is about to experience an epic reversal of fortune—FOREVER.
That’s also because the only way this “righting of the ship of state” can take place is through a rather tedious and complicated process that will, at first, look like a controlled demolition.

By the way, President Trump has already proven he’s got the most powerful wrecking ball on the planet. You know: MSM = Fake News. Democrat Party = Communist Party. DNC = CCP. DoJ = Den of Thieves. FBI = “Elite Protection Racket”. SCOTUS = Liar’s Retreat. NATO = North Atlantic Terrorist Organization. UN = One World Government. Globalism = New World Order. Great Reset = Final Screw Job. Coronavirus Pandemic = The Great Scamdemic. 2020 POTUS Election = The Great Stealection. CNN = Communist New Network. And so on and so forth.

Now until this thing plays out, and the Patriot Movement is completely out of the woods (and in the Capitol), folks ought to pray like there’s no tomorrow … … …

DO YOUR OWN PART … … …

Send info/data like this everywhere and every way you can … … …
And have faith that God’s ALWAYS in charge … even if the dark side appears to be.

For, in the end, the forces of light always triumph over the
forces of darkness.

— Intelligence Analyst & Former U.S. Military Officer
________________________________________
State of the Nation
January 12, 2021

SOTN Editor’s Note: Who among US is not well aware of the age-old truth:comment image

Stucky
Stucky
  mark
January 12, 2021 10:08 pm

SUMMARY: WE’RE WINNING !!!

aka …

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Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Stucky
January 12, 2021 10:21 pm

LOL, for a second I thought he was reaching for a pack of cigarettes.

mark
mark
  Stucky
January 12, 2021 10:26 pm

HA!

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  mark
January 12, 2021 10:54 pm

Mark, darling man, I love your optimism and I don’t really want to bust any bubbles but, what the Swamp dwellers are doing is called gaslighting and putting on a show and creating set-ups for false flags. Those troops are there as props, they are there to reinforce the story that the MAGA folk, those evil white terrorists, are VERY dangerous and must be guarded against.

The Joint Chiefs have abandoned Trump, he has no clout, no one to trust. There isn’t going to be any last minute saves, ALL of the Federal Government is arrayed against him.

Remember in 1984, they had to have their ten minutes of hate and they were always at war with Oceana. Donald Trump is Emmanuel Goldstein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbMpLKjA80&feature=emb_logo

mark
mark
  Mygirl....maybe
January 12, 2021 11:24 pm

MyGirl,

You may be right…I just don’t know if that many military players would commit mass commie purge suicide.

One thing for sure…the long drum roll is almost over.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mygirl....maybe
January 12, 2021 11:34 pm

Pretty sure you called me a sadistic asshole or similar for saying that kind of thing. Just saying.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 12:03 am

Pretty sure you called me a sadistic asshole or similar for saying that kind of thing. Just saying.

He’s a gentleman….and I am ALWAYS a lady so he’s just being polite to a lady…capische?

Remember I’m an Army brat, enlisted man father. The Brass are mostly political ass lickers who jockey for position and prestige. The rank and file don’t have much say and…the new and improved Army is full of gang bangers, sexually amorphous creatures, foreigners and Muslims and assorted others. It’s not your Daddy’s army no more. I was in Ft. Sam awhile back, there were lots of very butch young females and suspect young men. The guys were ok, the little females were scary. Baby bull dykes with attitude.
The Air Force is going thru and removing any ‘insensitive insignias and history’ and the Army is working on renaming bases that are named after Civil War heros. Ft. Hood is in the crosshairs.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mygirl....maybe
January 13, 2021 12:42 am

I wuz talking to you, MG. You called me that, by memory. Seems you have now joined me in calling out delusion.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 10:55 am

I can’t remember, we’ve had our little ‘disagreement’ over time and, I tend not to hold grudges, primarily because I don’t remember stuff that I don’t consider important. What were we ‘conversing’ about that caused me to call you such a name? Are you sure it was me, because I tend to be very polite and am disinclined to profanity…..
😁
And, yes, I most certainly have joined you in ripping away veils and curtains. We are living in a time, a dangerous time and holding onto delusions and fantasies is not only foolish, it can be life threatening.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Mygirl....maybe
January 13, 2021 6:47 pm

Plus it is so much fun!

mark
mark
  Mygirl....maybe
January 14, 2021 11:24 pm

Mygirl,

I’m not a gentle man…but I try to be a gentleman…
I was born under a bad sign…

mark
mark
  mark
January 13, 2021 6:08 pm

Those arn’t straws…their Doobies!

Ghost
Ghost
  mark
January 15, 2021 7:21 am

They’re doobies, brother.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  mark
January 12, 2021 10:25 pm

Well, Mark, I just don’t know what to think about that. I’m afraid the darkness is going to last a long time. Like Alaska long.

mark
mark
  Mary Christine
January 12, 2021 10:57 pm

Mary,

I spent much of the day preparing for the ultimate defense/defiance…it was a grim process for me as to be honest I am riddled with PTSD and it is never, ever going to go away. When I saw this I smiled…I haven’t smiled much today.

I am an optimist/realist and I realize how ugly it looks, but when this…I smiled again.
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State of the Nation has been extremely critical of Trump at times and deservedly so, and supportive when earned.

I have a hard time believing many in the military and Trump, are going to turn themselves over to what is obviously their demise and deaths via the coming PURGE.
Anyway it was worth it seeing myself 35 years ago, when my hair was still jet black…reaching for another doobie.

Ken31
Ken31
  mark
January 13, 2021 9:14 am

I never believed in PTSD until 7 years after I acquired it from a blast injury.

mark
mark
  Ken31
January 13, 2021 9:59 am

Ken,

We all are different when it comes to handling traumas, and PTSD comes in different forms, for different people, for different reasons, war only being one of many traumas causing it.

The younger the trauma victim usually the worse the effect of the traumatic experience(s). Soft mold fare far worse than hard ones.

I have done a lot of research on PTSD to better understand myself, and find peace.

I know this for certain. Unless you are one of the 1% psychopaths – 1% sociopaths, with males being 3 times more common than females. (I served with a psychopsth only person I ever thought of murdering…to do the world a favor) God did not intend us to do what we do to one another in war, and no matter how naïve, pure, patriotic, or honorable your motives were…you will pay a price for the rest of your life for being in the horror and the gore.

I do not want to go back into the horror and the gore…maybe that is why I was grasping for another ‘doobie’ in Stucky’s cartoon???

As far as war PTSD (I suspect childhood abuse is even more traumatic but don’t know from personal experience thankfully) this is a good read, especially for my generation who survived the meat grinder, yet struggle to put it behind them.

This is another sad fact: Culture has an impact on these figures too, in the United States of America for example, there is an extra 1% of population made up of sociopaths due to societies conditioning.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Ken31
January 13, 2021 12:59 pm

PTSD is just a new name. It was shell shock in ww1 and battle fatigue in ww2. It has been around since war. War does bad things to men.

mark
mark
  overthecliff
January 13, 2021 5:48 pm

overthecliff,

Without a doubt, but many of the well-researched and documented American war training changes the book above explains is how the military researched the known facts that many modern day 20th century grunts would simply avoid (in many ways) KILLING the enemy face to face.

The KILL ratio in arty, Airforce, Navy etc. DISTANCE KILLING has always been about the same of past wars…but the close in face to face Killing ratio in Nam was much, much higher than past wars…and why that was and what it did to significantly increase Battle Fatigue, Shell Shock, the 1,000 Yard Stare, suicides, nervous breakdowns, and all the other previous labels of PTSD is explained in On Killing.

The Military changed the training starting with Nam grunts to mold them to unhesitatingly KILL face to face. The military realized where their training had failed in past wars to push the average grunt to Kill average enemy grunts, and how the training for Nam dramatically increased the KILL rate in close in combat.

I can tell you this. In November of 1968 I was in Infantry Training Regiment (ITR) with the Marines…and called my Mother on her birthday from a pay phone…but could barely talk…I could only whisper…I had almost completely lost my voice screaming ‘KILL’.

mark
mark
  overthecliff
January 13, 2021 6:57 pm

PS: is a whole other story…that angle to the PTSD dangle has to be understood and dealt with by the survivor…or it will eat the survivor alive.

Survivor’s Guilt PTSD is more common in car accident survivors (as they are more common and I think even more horrific in some ways) than firefights.

mark
mark
  mark
January 13, 2021 9:53 pm

I don’t know if it is just me…but I have not been able to edit commits after I post and see a mistake in a couple of threads.

The above should have read:

PS: ‘Survivor’s Guilt’ is a whole other story…that angle to the PTSD dangle has to be understood and dealt with by the survivor…or it will eat the survivor alive.

Survivor’s Guilt PTSD is more common in car accident survivors (as they are more common and I think even more horrific in some ways) than firefights.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
January 13, 2021 8:08 am

we actually never left the dark ages. No one is enlightened!

Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
  mark
January 12, 2021 11:04 pm

Mark…you’re merely describing an “exercise” of “Might”. This may or may not be a harbinger of things to come. Regardless, Trump is done like so much smoke.

mark
mark
  Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
January 12, 2021 11:30 pm

Two,

I don’t know…I suspect the generals and admirals in the MIC would want a war with China before bowing the knee…which would just be a preamble to their purge.

Just a nagging thought.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  mark
January 13, 2021 12:07 am

There won’t be any wars with China, Xi and Biden are tight. There will be lots of saber rattling to keep things stirred up and the money pouring in but real military action with a country with nuclear weapons ain’t happening. Besides, once Biden’s handlers get going Xi will have a guest room right next to the Oval office.

August
August
  Mygirl....maybe
January 13, 2021 1:22 am

The upcoming war will be with Venezuela. Higher risk-reward ratio than f..king with Iran.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  August
January 13, 2021 1:44 am

At least Venezuelan chicks have lost some weight the last couple years. Still, better to not join the US military.

Shotgun Trooper
Shotgun Trooper
  mark
January 13, 2021 12:17 am

Nah, the one-stars are the rattlesnake, there to beat the colonels into line. The two stars and above are required to be politicians to ever get to that level…

Ken31
Ken31
  Shotgun Trooper
January 13, 2021 9:16 am

Anymore the heavy politics start at about O-4.

Swimologist
Swimologist

Exactly. Trump turning the tables at the last moment, throwing a military hail mary,
that would be frog-jumping-out-of-the-pot time. Not going to happen.
We are being slow boiled and accepting it.

Shotgun Trooper
Shotgun Trooper
  mark
January 13, 2021 12:13 am

That’s really great to hear. I’m still goin out tomorrow and buying another tube of silver eagles anyway…

mark
mark
  Shotgun Trooper
January 13, 2021 10:01 am

You can’t go wrong there!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
January 13, 2021 8:06 am

Trump is a swamp creature. The wall is to keep you in, just like all the money spent on middle highway dividers. Not for safety but to keep you herded.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  Anonymous
January 14, 2021 1:22 am

No.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  mark
January 13, 2021 12:52 pm

We don’t have to take over Washington DC or state capitols. We just have to educate them randomly one at a time. Let them know why.

ottomatik
ottomatik
  mark
January 14, 2021 1:20 am

Mark, I see much the same. There is another test/trap to set up. That is the Emergency Broadcast System.
More traitors to expose when they refuse to participate.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
January 12, 2021 10:02 pm

The left will own statewide elections but not the house elections.

Here in PA it’s no longer possible for an R to win a statewide race because of Philadelphia and to a lessor extent Pittsburgh. Nearly everything outside of those occupied zones is red. That’s why R’s control both houses of state government but not the governor seat.

Up until the State Supreme Court, D-controlled because it is elected statewide, implemented their own redistricting contrary to the state constitution the R’s had a majority of the congressional seats as well. Even with their version of redistricting it is a tie and now legislative maps are going to be redrawn again with R’s controlling both houses in the state.

What I’m saying is that all is not lost and all that matters in more way than one is local, local, local. Besides, there is no political solution to our problems.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
January 12, 2021 10:07 pm

“The chief task in life is simply this: to identify and separate matters so that I can say clearly to myself which are externals not under my control, and which have to do with the choices I actually control. Where then do I look for good and evil? Not to uncontrollable externals, but within myself to the choices that are my own…” — Epictetus

I can’t help but to continually return to these guys because they figured out the key to living as opposed to just being alive. You can’t change people, you can’t live in another time, you can’t alter the course of history, but you can work towards and inner peace every moment by doing everything you are able with you mind, your body and your spirit working in harmony.

I don’t know what tomorrow brings, but I can tell you that I filled this day with hard work, time with my family, good food, the beauty of the day, and peaceful thoughts. As I read this I don’t think about things like stupid people spoiling decent places with their uninformed behavior- because I can’t control what they do- but I am filled with a sense of good fortune at having become friends with Llpoh even though we have never met. Every time I read your words I feel like I am listening to a trusted confidant and that makes the conversation worthwhile no matter the topic.

And I firmly believe that the Earth is flat because I just can’t imagine seeing you upside down.

Cow Doctor
Cow Doctor
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 12, 2021 10:18 pm

You and my Cousin. LtC in the Army have made me a true believer in Stoicism. Control what you can and as my cousin says “Embrace the Suck”.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Cow Doctor
January 12, 2021 11:00 pm

Meditations is fantastic. My son and I alternated on each chapter and discussed key takeaways for each one.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 12, 2021 11:36 pm

HSF – thank you so much. I am truly touched.

Stucky
Stucky
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 12:08 am

” I am truly touched.”

“def: touched; Another way to say that someone is not quite ‘right in the head. Usually accompanied by a knowing look and a nod along with the hand lightly tapped to the forehead.”

Well, that clears up lot of questions. Thank you.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Stucky
January 13, 2021 12:43 am

I think that is pronounced tetched where I come from.

kevx
kevx
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 6:31 pm

and even for the harsh words i have had for you sir Llpoh, i do understand you point and respect your position. and yes i do see it – nice work!

Llpoh
Llpoh
  kevx
January 13, 2021 6:50 pm

Thanks Kev. Just how it flies around here.

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 13, 2021 12:22 am

He’s not upside down, he’s just on the other side and, the earth isn’t flat, it’s shaped like a giant banana.
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mark
mark
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 13, 2021 10:04 am

Farmer,

I bet you would enjoy this read…the auther and I have talked off line.

DRUD
DRUD
  Hardscrabble Farmer
January 13, 2021 12:36 pm

We are very much in a finger-pointing stage in history…both driving and being driven by the “widening gyre” of politics we find ourselves upon. It is impossible to know which way is up as the future hurtles inexorably toward us.

But how to conduct oneself (ie. hard work, time with my family, good food, the beauty of the day, and peaceful thoughts.) that never changes. This is the capital “T” Truth that we should seek…not ever-changing series of contradictory perspective (borrowing from today’s quotes) that people call “facts.”

TS
TS
January 12, 2021 10:40 pm

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What do you think that you can take from me?
When solid gold is dripping from the sun
Black hole eyes, an empty soul
I cannot bleed, you cannot hold me
Fighting in a war that’s never won

[Chorus]
Can you feel the calm?
It’s right before the storm
Escape from all your darker days
Follow me, I’ll lead the way back home

[Verse 2]
We are the soldiers of your destiny
Fighting for the worthless and the damned
Mortal life, a fragile soul
Broken bones, eternal silence
Death has always known who I am

[Chorus]
Can you feel the calm?
It’s right before the storm
Escape from all your darker days
Follow me, I’ll lead the way back home

TS
TS
January 12, 2021 10:40 pm

AND…

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TS
TS
January 12, 2021 10:45 pm

And that is where I’m at – in the eye of the storm. Oregon sucks, but we in this valley will be overlooked because of our isolation and unimportance (fingers crossed). Soon, very soon, any political issues are going to be a really irrelevant topic. Blood-letting has a tendency to draw the attention away from anything else.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TS
January 13, 2021 5:20 pm

The question is will the 4th turning economic collapse come in timer to destroy the Biden Harris controlled leviathan before it can come after us in any measurable way

Undiapered in VA ILuvCO2
Undiapered in VA ILuvCO2
January 12, 2021 10:58 pm

So, there it is.

OHMama
OHMama
January 12, 2021 11:05 pm

Like any junkie, the US will have to hit rock bottom. Loss of reserve currency should do the trick. As long as they can print money to mask the consequences (sort of) of their stupidity, we are stuck with the deterioration we have now.

Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
January 12, 2021 11:12 pm

Due to the influx of immigrants from other states in my neck of the woods, it’s imperative to start being involved in the county commissioner meetings.
Best I can offer is meet/ greet these newcomers and act on the first impressions.
Polite always but curt if necessary.

Be Prepared
Be Prepared
January 13, 2021 12:18 am

I can’t embrace the suck, but I can understand the suck. I don’t have to bath in the darkness of the gloom and doom of these times, but I need to remain situationally aware of the tides and currents of change that may influence my today and the risings of my tomorrows. We must surely find joy in the passing of each day, but be ants and prepare for the coming winter storms. Not one of us can withstand what we all see as the 4th Turning standing as a lone reed in the wind but we do need to band together in any way possible to gain strength. All of way I expressed may seem trite but, in our American culture, these concepts carry a simple truth.

TS
TS
January 13, 2021 1:59 am

1q00! Dayum, am I good ot what? Lucky anyway.

Ghost
Ghost
  TS
January 15, 2021 8:11 am

1q00?

TS
TS
  Ghost
January 16, 2021 9:08 am

I was in a hurry, just in for a moment. This is where the non-edit issue reared its ugly head.

Wombatatron
Wombatatron
January 13, 2021 2:37 am

It’s ‘stralian not ‘strain 😑
It’s “shithole” not “sh**hole”

Never make an Aussie that way .
Probably have a backyard pool and don’t swim in a creek either.
Bloody tourists ☺

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Wombatatron
January 13, 2021 3:01 am

One does not put such words into the body of a main article. That is not cool. Hence the asterisks.

I think it is actually ‘Strine, now that you mention it.

August
August
  Wombatatron
January 13, 2021 11:40 am

I prefer ‘Strine.

starfcker
starfcker
  Wombatatron
January 14, 2021 12:22 am

Probably never get eaten by a salty swimming in a pool

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 13, 2021 6:35 am

Epic!

keep your eye on florida

very old white guy
very old white guy
January 13, 2021 6:50 am

You might as well send it even though it may not enlighten the person, at least derive some satisfaction that you tried.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
January 13, 2021 7:09 am

LLPOH, good article, but you left out one thing. The part where you brace your stupid relatives and force them to confront their stupidity. I live in Florida. We are fed up with New Yorkers shitting in their nest and then fleeing to our state, where the proceed to vote Democrat and adopt the same crap that has ruined New York. Ditto for goofball Californians (and most Californians I have met are nice people, but impossibly child-like and out of touch with reality). You owe it to yourself and them to have a straight talk. I know it is tough with family but so what. You would not let them drink a can of Drano. Why allow them to continue to live in their leftist/liberal fantasy? Your contempt for them will be obvious and that may cause some gears to move in their pointed little heads.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Southern Sage
January 13, 2021 7:24 am

SS – I ain’t doing that. Will comment more on that later. But pearls before swine is the appropriate saying, meant in a kindly way, and I have few family, and I am 10,000 miles away.

Also, I do not have contempt for them. You are out of line.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 10:28 am

Llpoh,

We will have to agree to disagree. I expressed my opinion. I am by no means out of line. Your relatives and the people like them are destroying this country. I do not think being “nice” is an especially important thing. I do not have many family connections, either, and I count my close friends carefully. I have had to cut ties with some of both because I will not break bread with people too stupid to see what is in front of their faces.

Confrontation? During my career with the U.S. government I earned the disapproval and dislike of quite a few people because I did confront them. They were not doing their jobs, they held ignorant views on international affairs, and refused to understand our enemies. Many of these people held senior positions in the intelligence community and they did terrible damage to our country. The yes-men who gave Bush the “proof” for the Iraq War were among them. I am proud to say that many others came to me privately and thanked me for standing up to these idiots.

I do not want your “nice” relatives anywhere near me. They are not “good people”. Adults have certain responsibilities and if they shirk them – like refusing to comprehend the real world – they are useless and a threat to the really “good people”. I do indeed have contempt for goofballs like your California relatives. People like them will be largely responsible for the terrible events which will unfold in this country in the next few years.

Like it or not, Llpoh, you will be forced to abandon your personal sensitivities by the pressure of events.

Stucky
Stucky
  Southern Sage
January 13, 2021 11:11 am

“Your relatives and the people like them are destroying this country. “

That’s a pretty powerful accusation. Have you actually met Llpoh’s relatives?

No need to reply. I should just mind my own business,really.

But, I gotta tell ya …. I’m guessing his response will be epic. Prepare yourself.

Cheers

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Southern Sage
January 13, 2021 4:01 pm

SS – so, you are doubling down on stupid. When you said I have contempt for my relatives, you were indeed out of line. You should acknowledged you were wrong to have attributed that to me. I will have more to say later. But you should have withdrawn that, and you sure as hell should have not been talking about my relatives so personally in the following post.

But fact is, you are losing the plot. I have noticed a disintegration of your thinking as of late.

Here is something for you to reflect on. There is a very famous saying, one which you may have heard before – I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

You are the opposite side of Clinton’s deplorable coin. You need to start playing the ball, not the man.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Southern Sage
January 13, 2021 4:39 pm

Ok – firsts, you stated plainly that I hold them in contempt. That was not a stated opinion, that was a stated fact made on my behalf. It was out of line, you should withdraw that, and I can make my own beliefs about such things known if I choose.

Second, my nice relatives would not want to be anywhere near you. They believe that you are the issue, that you are trying to destroy the nation, that you are the problem, that you are evil, that you do not have compassion for your fellow man, and that your positions are costing countless lives. I do not agree with them, but here is the thing –

They are entitled to their opinions and beliefs. The country was founded on those basic rights. And it is the reason I will never fight Americans, or Australians. I believe in their right to choose, and to believe as they will. As unwise as it is. Instead, I will oppose in other ways, via peaceful protest, civil disobedience at times, etc.

But I will not believe them to be opposite sides of the coin to deplorables. As unlike you it seems, I have an affinity to my family that goes beyond political beliefs. And I have an affinity in general to Americans. Even the liberal ones.

You make whatever definition you want for good people. I believe the family I am talking about are indeed good people. They are generous, hard-working, family oriented. They are not criminals. They paid their way, largely, through society.

How about you, government man? You who sucked the teat of those very relatives I am talking about? You who even now may be doing so, if you are retired on a govt pension. Is that you, mister govt parasite? You still sucking the teat?

Your comments that you were so upstanding as a govt employee does not impress me. You were a govt employee – what I believe is a parasite in general. You were a damn parasite, and have the balls to talk about being upstanding? That is laughable. You talking about useless people is the height of hypocrisy. Talking about people who made an actual living in the private sector, while you had your nose in their tax trough.

At least my goofball relatives never made a living sucking on the public teat.

Your comments about an adults responsibilities are absurd. Your opinion. I, and they, will decide what their responsibilities are. Part of being free, don’t you know.

The events that will unfold are not because of what they, or those like them, did. No, it was because of what conservatives did not do. You need to look to the right and see the problem. The right is playing a well organized, determined, active team, are getting their asses kicked.

In business, I did not blame the competition if I had problems. I blamed myself. Because that is where the fault lies. Competition did what they do – they compete. Conservatives have failed to compete, and now they blame the competition? Lunacy.

You are looking under the wrong rock. Look under your own rock, teat-sucker. Go back to your taxpayer trough, and leave my law-abiding, tax-paying relatives out of it, as you have not a fucking clue.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Southern Sage
January 13, 2021 8:03 am

I do not believe confronting people is the way. I am reasonably certain that it will not work, and I do not need the angst that comes with the confrontation. I believe that conservatives have failed to organize, failed to resist, failed to act in their own interests.

The left have organized, have protested, have raised funds, have infiltrated.

The fact is they are winning. And they are winning because they are the only ones playing the game, fighting if you will. Conservatives have merrily gone about their business, largely oblivious to the changes occurring, and/or indifferent. And now it is almost certainly too late.

I do not hold my family that are one the left in contempt. They are damn nice people. Kind, generous, hard-working, family-oriented. And wrong. I love them. I will not ostracise myself from them. They are not bad. Just mistaken.

The US was built on certain freedoms. Key freedoms include freedom of movement, and the right to one’s beliefs, however erroneous they may be. The majority of Americans are getting exactly what they want, until they aren’t, and don’t. They do not know any better. I am happy to discuss and debate with my family, but I am not going to have a incendiary confrontation. It will not work, and it will be destructive.

If people want change, they need to look at the left for example as how to get it done, because quite frankly they are kicking the asses of conservatives. Organize, protest, boycott, object, undermine, obfuscate, twist, demand, cancel, donate – that is what conservatives need to do. And rapidly. I doubt it will happen.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 8:29 am

If people want change, they need to look at the left for example as how to get it done, because quite frankly they are kicking the asses of conservatives. Organize, protest, boycott, object, undermine, obfuscate, twist, demand, cancel, donate – that is what conservatives need to do. And rapidly. I doubt it will happen.

Bingo. Someone said conservatives are like cats. Too individualistic to organize like the left does. In some ways, it’s a strength but in fighting a tsunami like the left it’s a weakness.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 8:39 am

I am happy to discuss and debate with my family, but I am not going to have a incendiary confrontation. It will not work, and it will be destructive.

Absolutely Godamned right!

Every time I forget the sage words of Robert Heinlein, I regret it.

“…Never try to teach a pig to sing. It only wastes your time and it annoys the pig…” — Robert Heinlein – Lazarus Long, “Time Enough for Love”

OHMama
OHMama
  Steve C.
January 13, 2021 9:05 pm

Exactly. Confrontation usually just makes people dig in their heels. Socratic method is more effective, done subtly.

card802
card802
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 8:48 am

“I do not believe confronting people is the way. I am reasonably certain that it will not work, and I do not need the angst that comes with the confrontation.”

Bingo!

I believe this is what the goal is, to get family and friends to go after each other, to hate, to divide. So much easier to control the masses that way, and ask for government to step in once again to save us from ourselves.
We never learn….

Dan
Dan
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 9:30 am

Your silence is consent & agreement tot heir lunacy. You don’t have to be a jerk about it, but i no one corrects them, how will they ever learn?

Mygirl....maybe
Mygirl....maybe
  Dan
January 13, 2021 11:12 am

East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet. I hold to no niceties anymore. Those nice people wouldn’t hesitate to turn you over to the authorities if they deem you a threat to their order. They are the gullible brainwashed and they are the supporters and enablers of tyranny.
Blaming conservatives is nonsense. Most conservatives tend to live and let live, want to go about their business and not be told what to do and how to live. Most conservatives don’t (didn’t) understand that their way of life and thinking was anathema to a huge swath of the populace that DOES want to be controlled and taken care of.

There is this thing called diplomacy and tact. If used properly it can possibly bridge discordant people. If it is truly used and the person STILL refuses to acknowledge the reality placed in front of them…Oh well.

I read an article about a nice young woman living in Austin who was having to sell her house because she couldn’t afford the taxes. She admitted to voting for every bond and feel-good issue that came down the river, apparently she didn’t realize that all those feel-good issues she voted for cost money and that cost for feeling good and ‘doing the right thing’ raised her taxes and forced her out of her own home.

DS
DS
  Mygirl....maybe
January 14, 2021 3:20 pm

Yeah, but did she learn her lesson after relocating? Or still voting D? (as if it matters anymore…)

DaddyJo
DaddyJo
  Dan
January 13, 2021 11:34 am

Learn? They won’t learn and neither will we. No one learns from history–thats the first lesson of history. And one’s own human life is too short to learn from too. Most wisdom comes from age, but by then its too late. It’s all just Malthusian Darwinism. “In this life you will have trouble” Fourth turning exponentially worse than the third. Better start looking beyond this life and in the meantime Stoicism is the best we’ve got.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 2:58 pm

Any action performed by liberty loving individuals will be branded as sedition and insurrection. There will be no opposition allowed by the marxist and their useful idiots. So trying to organize will be seen in the same light as the militia movement was in years past. Anyone organizing to combat the evils of marxism will be branded as terrorist. If you protest you will automatically be arrested and charged with incitement to riot. If you boycott you will be forced to do business with the enemy for they will control access to food, clothing & energy.

The rest on the list are of no consequence for marxist do not understand obfuscation done by or just ignore liberty loving individuals. Same with twist, demand and cancel, paraphrasing George Carlin, “Think about this, the average person is stupid and the 49.9% below them is worse than that.” They won’t understand what you are trying to twist, demand or cancel.

Hell even banks are now trying to cut off sitting Senators and Representatives that supported Trump from their donated campaign funds. Just how are you going to donate to someone if they don’t have a place for the funds to reside? The fact is clear that most banks and clearing houses will not allow you to use their services if you are against the communist agenda that is being pushed!

The MSM is now pushing the narrative that anyone that donated to or voted for Trump should be arrested and tried for insurrection. So 75 million people in the united States that voted for Trump are instantly criminals for opposing the Democrat Party.

Pretty sure being non-confrontational is not going to work.

OHMama
OHMama
  None Ya Biz
January 13, 2021 9:11 pm

If they alienate enough people all it will do is create a massive black market. Pretty stupid of them to go after 75 million people.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  OHMama
January 14, 2021 10:10 am

Oh, I agree! However, how can you have a black market when there is no paper currency? The excuse they will use is this will kill the illegal drug trade since there is no paper money how can you sell drugs without being caught by the digital surveillance system on digital transfers of funds.

However, the state wants the drug trade to flourish, so they will not be monitoring individual illegal drug activity. They will be looking for the big scores so they can raid and justify their giganormous budgets and asset forfeiture.

But you and me trying to use anything but digital currency will be hunted down and killed like mad dogs. Why? It is like trying to use gold and silver as currency now! It undermines the legal tender requirements for the fiat currency the Federal Reserve issues. No need for their paper, the system collapses. So using anything but their useless script is strictly verboten and the SS (yeppers SS as in Secret Service which is the enforcement arm of the Federal Reserve) will pay you a visit to arrest you and seize any precious metals you have minted to be coinage.

BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 3:38 pm

LLPOH and Sage…et. al . I’ve tried for 10 years or more to deal with the Leftists in my family . You can sit down with them at look at stats with them and they’ll tell you you are cherry picking things.

You show them the crime stats that show that Blacks in the inner-city are predators against their own race with them committing 50% of the murders and 53% of the robberies…all against other blacks . That Blacks account for 13% of the population but commit 30% of all crimes and that accounts for their increase in police interaction and they will call you a racist.

You tell them how open borders harm those least able to deal with the influx of cheap labor. That open borders will allow the Cloward-Piven strategy to be proven out and they call you a xenophobe

You can tell them how nothing is free and that healthcare is not a right because someone has to perform the labor etc. and you’re just a Capitalist asshole .

You can show them that the SI is a ponzi scheme and that sound money is important and you’re just a liar .

I tell them about the 2nd amendment is a bulwark against tyranny and I’m just a person who likes them because I have a small dick….which I don’t LOL.

I can write a dissertation of these turds .

I’m done,finito,sayonara,arrivederci…how many languages do I have to use to say good-bye !

Stucky
Stucky
  BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
January 13, 2021 3:59 pm

“You show them … “

Hahahaha! As if “showing” them actually makes a difference. You learned the hard way. So do I. I have a sister who is a libtard. As such, I have a Three Laws which will keep you from losing your mind when dealing with such people.

Law 1: TRUTH IS IRRELEVANT.
Law 2: FACTS ARE IRRELEVANT.
Law 3: FEEWINGS AND WOKENESS ARE RELEVANT.

It’s that simple.

If you want to show them anything, show them your middle finger. And walk away. Anything more than that is a goddamned waste of time.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
January 13, 2021 6:53 pm

Buck – you cannot change people, generally. They have to want to change.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  Llpoh
January 14, 2021 10:39 am

Just like the druggie and alcoholic has to want to quit. It is apparent to me that insanity is the most potent drug available because its cause is fear.

OHMama
OHMama
  BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
January 13, 2021 9:18 pm

So true. The best way to deal with them is to pick up a book about alcoholics or junkies and read it. Substance abuse and leftism both require massive self-delusion to continue…they will do every mental gymnastic under the sun and blame everything except their own actions or the actions of their ideology, they will beg, borrow, cheat, steal and lie to feed their habit/belief (in the case of leftists, this involves stealing and lying via election cheating, raising taxes, etc) and hide the consequences of their actions. It takes hitting rock bottom for most, if ever, to see reality and change their ways.
All you can do is say “I love you, but I cannot support the road you are on. If you ever want to change your ways, I am here with open arms to help.” And walk away.

None Ya Biz
None Ya Biz
  OHMama
January 14, 2021 10:40 am

Dang! you beat me to it! Shazzam!

kevx
kevx
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 7:08 pm

well stated!

BotClan
BotClan
January 13, 2021 7:21 am
Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
Two if by sea. Three if from within thee.
  BotClan
January 13, 2021 12:31 pm

I simply say to them, they won’t get their stuff back once it’s ” invested” towards their new society and there won’t be special congratulations days in store with the givers name on the banners. Oh, and don’t look for a ROI.
You can actually see their pupils dilate when it sinks in.

BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO

“Two if by sea. Three if from within thee….. You can actually see their pupils dilate when it sinks in.”

More like don’t shoot until you can see the whites of their eyes .

card802
card802
January 13, 2021 7:33 am

In the next year I’m hopping both business’s will be sold and in a few years moving from Michigan to Tennessee as I have two friends in the Gatlinburg area surrounded by like minded people, mountain folk people, but my kids and grand kids are in Michigan. Sigh……….I’ll probably stay for them.

Anyway, I feel for everyone dealing with off the rails relatives and friends, this country was so easily divided it’s frightening.
I agree though, Llpoh, do not send the email, I’m feeling that very soon those same relatives and friends will be “talking” with brown shirts and there will be a door breaking down at 2:00am and a boot on your face, forever.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 13, 2021 8:19 am

Oy Vey! Rats in the ranks.

Australian Brendon O’Connell has been on the run for a years and what does he tell ‘middle Americans’ in his videos? Don’t listen to Alex Jones, Whitey Webb, Steve Pieczenik, Robert David Steele, and that breed of controlled crackpots appearing in comments of this blog every day of the week. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 13, 2021 8:25 am

As a lifelong Texan born and raised “ DON’T CALIFORNICATE MY TEXAS”! Mind boggling that libs don’t have that understanding you mention!

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
January 13, 2021 6:53 pm

Too late

Ken31
Ken31
January 13, 2021 8:37 am

Sorry, but I hope that person dies before they can corrupt Texas any more than it has been.

Depressed Aussie
Depressed Aussie
January 13, 2021 8:49 am

Good lord they trash one state so they move to the next? Australia is no role model unless your idea of a role model is a great reset friendly dystopian nightmare (which you can expect when the child sniffer goes after your guns). @LLPOH I know how you feel dealing with your family I have the same problem. Family is in Melbourne the Aussie equivalent of San Francisco and politics need to be avoided. Last time I visited I jumped out of an uber and attempted to walk 20km back to the city over a fight about me not wearing a mask

BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
January 13, 2021 10:01 am

Hmm…I guess we’ll have to evict the Left Wingers from the South one day. I hope I’m gone from this world before that happens but if not..so be it .

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
  BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
January 13, 2021 11:26 am

The real virus is blue. It’s driven by emotion, that it believes is thought.

BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
January 13, 2021 11:24 am

I will make a prediction and you heard it here first. This will be the Demonrat Mantra when the SHTF and nothing that that try will fix it . Here’s the headline:

” Joe Biden and the Demonrats In CONgress Say That Trump Did To Much Damage To The Country To Fix It”

B_MC
B_MC
January 13, 2021 11:39 am

So, there will be no political way out of this mess. It will soon be, if not already is, impossible to elect a right/conservative leaning federal government.

Already impossible, IMHO. They have just demonstrated that voting does not matter; they will simply produce however many “votes” needed to produce the desired outcome. The winner will be either the highest bidder or the most acceptable to the planners.

BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
BUCKED/BUY MORE AMMO/BOURBON TOO
  B_MC
January 13, 2021 3:51 pm

And the Right will be given just enough representation to keep them shut up but not enough to change things .

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
January 13, 2021 12:23 pm

LLPOH,

I saw an interview with that little smoker Evelyn Rae yesterday where she was talking about how Oz is actually mandating that people don’t have sex anymore. Apparently they say it’s okay to masturbate at each other, however to do so one must be 1.5m away from his/her (whichever one, or both, they identify with I suppose) lover AND of, course, must be wearing masks at all times.

Wouldn’t a remake of Australia After Dark make for some interesting cinema now, Bruces and Sheilas?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Captain_Obviuos
January 13, 2021 6:56 pm

Don’t believe everything you hear about Oz. Lots of lies. The sex thing is one such. Just like in the US, some folks will say anything, and when they do it is reported by others as gospel. That said, some damn draconian things have been done here. Which I fight best I can.

overthecliff
overthecliff
January 13, 2021 12:28 pm

Wow! Llpoh sure knows how to stimulate discussion.

Ben Lurken
Ben Lurken
  overthecliff
January 13, 2021 12:35 pm

I had a pretty long comment I was composing for this article. But in the process I went over to read the article by TMWNN. I decided to not post the comment, as I have done many times before. But then, thinking about what another commenter posted recently-that he was grateful to be part of this community-I decided to post this edited version as I too am grateful for this place and I’ve been coming here daily for the last 6 years. And I’m not sure any community can be a one way street.
The gist of the original comment was that I grew up in Massachusetts. In a family actively engaged in politics. My father, who was a high ranking Democrat political appointee, died when I was age 6. My mother, also active in the Dem party, married a blue blood Republican from the North Shore (Rockefeller country). I saw up close all the shenanigans, corruption, cronyism, etc.
Think about the fact that at least 3 of the Speakers of the House in MA did time. And another who served as speaker for many years was Whitey Bulger’s brother!!!
The point I was making in the original comment was that governing and enforcement of rules and laws is much harder in typically corrupt blue states. MA was always blue. We didn’t go from having very little paperwork to suddenly needing a lawyer if all you wanted to do was open a business.
So for me, having seen all the nonsense from both sides, I did not want to get involved in any system where I did not control my own fate. I went into business for myself at age 20 and never looked back. Leaving out a bunch of details from the original comment I will say that noncompliance is not hard.
I now live in NH. HSF once described his trip to the Capital in Concord, NH. I don’t remember the specifics but if he was complaining about forms and fees and whatnot he might imagine what the same process involves in MA.
I have one sheet of paper on my desk which is already filled out. All I have to do is sign it and send it with a fee to NH Dept. of State. In the original comment I listed a number of things you can get away with not doing in MA because many systems are overburdened. Even if you are found out and they send someone to come after you they are lazy incompetent, fat bureaucrats who have a hard time getting out of the car. They don’t want more paperwork and will take the path of least resistance.
All that to say, whenever possible, DO NOT COMPLY.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  Ben Lurken
January 13, 2021 7:00 pm

I spent a lot of time in “red” states. The corruption I saw and know about at local levels is enormous. Local police, politicians, county clerks, justices of the peace, even ministers of the churches were corrupt. Red states are just as bad, make no mistake. But it seems more on locally center Ed, in my experience.

Ben Lurken
Ben Lurken
  Llpoh
January 13, 2021 7:58 pm

True. And thank you for reading all these comments and responding as you see fit.

kevx
kevx
January 13, 2021 3:25 pm

great article Lloph, i have often wondered why a people will do the same things that destroyed the place they came from. i applaud your move to give us your response rather than the known outcome of engaging in a futile argument!

ursel doran
ursel doran
January 13, 2021 8:43 pm

Democrats Launch Their Assault on Red State America

pyrrhuis
pyrrhuis
January 14, 2021 10:17 am

As if how people actually vote will matter in a political system ruled by vote fraud….

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
January 15, 2021 4:17 pm

There are still spots of sanity in the golden state, one of these is Riverside County where our sheriff Bianco (bless his heart), told gov Newslum to pound sand on those edicts. As a result, a good number of biz that Newslum tried to close are open, but you still can’t eat at a restaurant or get a haircut.

c1ue
c1ue
January 16, 2021 10:00 am

Yes but all those departing Californians, New Yorkers etc mean those states come back into play.