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Total elimination of meat production could save the planet, study says

A total elimination of meat production around the world in 15 years could slash global carbon emissions by 68 per cent and save Earth from global warming, a new study says.

Researchers have performed computer modelling scenarios of future greenhouse gas emissions up to the 22nd century using publicly available data from the UN.

Eliminating all animal agriculture in the next 15 years would drastically reduce greenhouse gas emissions and pull carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, they found.

Meat-heavy diets not only risk our health but that of the planet, as livestock farming on a massive scale destroys habitats and generates greenhouse gases.

Animal agriculture contributes to global warming because of the methane, nitrous oxide and carbon emissions of livestock and their supply chains.

But a total switch to plant-based food appears unlikely; McDonald’s, one of the biggest meat purchasers in the world, told MailOnline in December that it has no plans to phase out beef.

A total global elimination of meat production could save the planet, scientists in California report today

MCDONALD’S: WE WON’T PHASE OUT MEAT

McDonald’s told MailOnline at the launch of its first ‘carbon neural’ restaurant in December that it has no plans to phase out meat.

McDonald’s told MailOnline it is committed to keeping beef on its menu provided it is sustainably sourced, despite the fact a transition to plant-based food will dramatically cut greenhouse gas emissions.

Currently, McDonald’s is one of the largest beef purchasers in the world. Roughly 80 per cent of its total emissions come from its supply chain, in particular its use of beef, chicken, dairy and other proteins.

‘We’re not on a road-map to phase-out beef entirely; we’re on a road-map for sustainable beef,’ Beth Hart, McDonald’s vice president for supply chain and ‘brand trust’, told MailOnline.

McDonald’s has just launched the ‘McPlant’, a vegan burger made out of pea protein.

Read more: Inside the UK’s first net zero emissions McDonald’s

The new study was conducted by Michael Eisen, professor of molecular and cell biology at the University of California, Berkeley, and Patrick Brown, professor emeritus of biochemistry at Stanford University.

Professor Brown is also the CEO of Impossible Foods, a California company that sells plant-based meat substitutes, including its Impossible Burger containing an additive that makes it appear like it’s ‘bleeding’.

According to the findings, switching to plant-based agriculture could reduce emissions by the equivalent of 25 gigatons of carbon dioxide per year (one gigaton being 1 billion metrics tons).

‘Our work shows that ending animal agriculture has the unique potential to significantly reduce atmospheric levels of all three major greenhouse gases,’ said Eisen.

‘Because we have dithered in responding to the climate crisis, [this] is now necessary to avert climate catastrophe.’

The researchers pointed out that carbon-capturing ‘biomass’ – renewable organic material that comes from plants and animals – is often displaced on land used for grazing and for growing animal feed.

One of the ways carbon emissions can be negated is therefore restoring these areas – what they call ‘biomass recovery’.

For the study, Eisen and Brown (who are themselves vegans) used a simple climate model to incorporate the combined effects of reduced greenhouse gas emissions and biomass recovery resulting from a hypothetical global switch to a plant-based diet.

They used the UN’s Food and Agriculture Data (FAOSTAT), which provides free access to food and agriculture statistics.

FAOSTAT allowed them to examine how a switch to plant-based food might affect emissions and atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases between 2020 and 2100.

One of the study authors is Patrick Brown, CEO of Impossible Foods, a California company that sells plant-based meat substitutes (pictured)

One of the study authors is Patrick Brown, CEO of Impossible Foods, a California company that sells plant-based meat substitutes (pictured)

Biomass is a renewable energy source. It involves organic material being burnt to release stored energy from the sun

Biomass is a renewable energy source. It involves organic material being burnt to release stored energy from the sun

WHAT IS BIOMASS?

Biomass is a renewable energy source, generated from burning wood, plants and other organic matter, such as manure or household waste.

It releases carbon dioxide when burned, but considerably less than fossil fuels.

Biomass can be used for fuels, power production, and products that would otherwise be made from fossil fuels.

Source: NREL/Energy Saving Trust

They considered various scenarios including an immediate switch from animal- to plant-based agriculture, a 15-year phased transition, and a partial change where only certain animal products were phased out.

A 15-year phased transition could reduce emissions sufficiently to stabilise greenhouse gas levels for 30 years.

A 15-year phaseout would immediately eliminate about one-third of all methane emissions globally and two-thirds of all nitrous oxide emissions, allowing the atmosphere to achieve a new equilibrium at lower levels of both.

Researchers also looked at the combined impact of eliminating emissions linked to animal agriculture in 15 years and of restoring native vegetation on the 30 per cent of Earth’s land surface currently used to house and feed livestock.

They found that the resulting drop in methane and nitrous oxide levels, and the conversion of 800 gigatons (800 billion tons) of carbon dioxide to forest, grassland and soil biomass, would have the same beneficial impact on global warming as cutting annual global CO2 emissions by 68 per cent.

Using the UN's Food and Agriculture Data (FAOSTAT), researchers examined how a switch to plant-based food might affect emissions between 2020 and 2100. Red: business as usual; green: phase-out of animal agriculture

 

Using the UN’s Food and Agriculture Data (FAOSTAT), researchers examined how a switch to plant-based food might affect emissions between 2020 and 2100. Red: business as usual; green: phase-out of animal agriculture

‘A 15-year phaseout is not unrealistic – a lot of things happen on that timeframe,’ Eisen said.

‘We went from having no cellphones to cellphones being ubiquitous in less time than that.

‘It’s not that we’re saying we’re going to get rid of animal ag in the next 15 years, though that’s sort of the mission for Impossible Foods, but that is something we could do.’

Impacts of a partial change where only certain animal products were phased out differed greatly by species, although phasing out cattle accounted for 71 per cent of the benefits to emissions (47 per cent through beef and 24 per cent through milk).

While completely phasing out animal-based agriculture was projected to have the largest impact, replacing ruminants alone could achieve over 90 per cent of the reduction in emissions.

A new model suggests a global switch from an animal-based to a plant-based diet (pictured)would have a substantial impact in stabilizing greenhouse gas levels

A new model suggests a global switch from an animal-based to a plant-based diet (pictured)would have a substantial impact in stabilizing greenhouse gas levels

Bars show sustained reduction in annual CO2 emissions necessary to equal cumulative reduction in radiative forcing, a measure of the instantaneous warming potential of the atmosphere, of the given scenario in 2050 (blue) and 2100 (orange)

Bars show sustained reduction in annual CO2 emissions necessary to equal cumulative reduction in radiative forcing, a measure of the instantaneous warming potential of the atmosphere, of the given scenario in 2050 (blue) and 2100 (orange)

The authors hope that their work ‘will help policymakers and the public properly prioritise dietary change as a climate defense strategy’.

‘This study shows that a global transition away from the use of animals, especially cattle, to produce food has the potential to rapidly remove large amounts of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide from the atmosphere,’ Eisen said.

Reducing greenhouse gas emissions including carbon dioxide and methane is seen as key to achieving the aims of the Paris Agreement to limit climate change.

Adopted in 2016, the Paris Agreement aims to hold an increase in global average temperature to below 3.6ºF (2°C) and pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 2.7°F (1.5°C).

Hitting the Paris targets is seen as key to averting a planetary catastrophe, leading to devastation in the form of frequent climate disasters and millions of deaths.

 

THE PARIS AGREEMENT: A GLOBAL ACCORD TO LIMIT TEMPERATURE RISES THROUGH CARBON EMISSION REDUCTION TARGETS

The Paris Agreement, which was first signed in 2015, is an international agreement to control and limit climate change.

It hopes to hold the increase in the global average temperature to below 2°C (3.6ºF) ‘and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5°C (2.7°F)’.

It seems the more ambitious goal of restricting global warming to 1.5°C (2.7°F) may be more important than ever, according to previous research which claims 25 per cent of the world could see a significant increase in drier conditions.

The Paris Agreement on Climate Change has four main goals with regards to reducing emissions:

1)  A long-term goal of keeping the increase in global average temperature to well below 2°C above pre-industrial levels

2) To aim to limit the increase to 1.5°C, since this would significantly reduce risks and the impacts of climate change

3) Governments agreed on the need for global emissions to peak as soon as possible, recognising that this will take longer for developing countries

4) To undertake rapid reductions thereafter in accordance with the best available science

Source: European Commission 

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91 Comments
Brewe55
Brewe55
February 10, 2022 4:56 pm

A long ass article to which I say, ain’t no one getting between me and a medium rare ribeye!
Is anybody else tired of this crap?

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Brewe55
February 10, 2022 6:16 pm

When ever I hear or read “(X) will save the planet” I know I am dealing
with pure, unadulterated leftist horseshit. The people promoting this
excuse for implementing communism need to be confronted aggressively
and without mercy. They are your mortal enemy. “Tired of this crap”
doesn’t begin to describe it. I’m very close to “Be ready to kill them all.”
After all, they seriously mean to kill me first. They tell me that every day.
Ammo up.

Doc
Doc
  Colorado Artist
February 10, 2022 8:17 pm

I could get used to eating politician and NWO Folk (it’s an acquired taste).

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Doc
February 10, 2022 8:23 pm

I would want to run them through some hogs first.

Leah
Leah
  TN Patriot
February 11, 2022 7:00 am

Would be interesting if the hogs would pass. There’s a first time for everything.

Displaced Hillbilly
Displaced Hillbilly
  Colorado Artist
February 11, 2022 10:54 am

Colorado Artist-

“When ever I hear or read “(X) will save the planet” I know I am dealing
with pure, unadulterated leftist horseshit.”

That made my morning. Thank you.

atilla da hun
atilla da hun
  Brewe55
February 10, 2022 6:33 pm

Agree with Wes Rhinier over at NC Renegade , No trials needed Just the Rope
These clowns hate anything they don’t like that means us who want to be left alone to live our lives as we see fit it’s time 1000’s should be headed to gallows for crimes against humanity. Psychopaths,Sociopaths,and narcissists that’s all they are. I’ll volunteer to pull the handle.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  atilla da hun
February 10, 2022 8:16 pm

I’ll buy all the rope.
These creatures wouldn’t hesitate to kill us all if they could.

flash
flash
February 10, 2022 4:57 pm

Are cockroaches better grilled or fried?

Tom MacGyver
Tom MacGyver
  flash
February 10, 2022 6:15 pm

…Sauted in butter and wine…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
February 10, 2022 6:48 pm

Live. They are crunchy on the outside, gooey on the inside, and their little legs tickle your throat on the way down. 😁

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
February 10, 2022 7:22 pm

We have been doing it wrong as we now seem to elect them to high office.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  flash
February 11, 2022 7:46 am

Would love to see a “NWO burger” at McD’s….made from the recycled remains of vegans, BLM & ANTIIFA activists, and all other types of useful idiots.

Could maybe challenge the Big Mac or Quarter Pounder in short order for sales…

Kszatmary
Kszatmary
February 10, 2022 5:06 pm

This is beyond an ideology. It’s some sort of mental sickness.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:13 pm

I’ll eat people before I will eat a Pea Burger.

“A total elimination of meat production around the world in 15 years”

What they really mean is “A total elimination of meat eaters around the world in 15 years”, and I don’t mean getting them to eat soyshit.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 6:19 pm

Long pork.
I’m told it’s delicious.
There are lots of humanity hating leftists grass-fed and free-ranging about everywhere.
THAT is a great deal of easily available protein for someone who hunts.

(That is currently a joke, but evolving events may make it less so.)

Brewe55
Brewe55
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 6:24 pm

Come on guys. Let’s not go down this road.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Brewe55
February 10, 2022 8:16 pm

It’s a joke.
Until THEY say it isn’t.
The road is all up to them.
Ammo up in case they are serious.

Bustednuckles
Bustednuckles
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 7:10 pm

Long Pig will be on the menu and we will start with the vegetarians, they are grass fed after all…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Bustednuckles
February 10, 2022 7:21 pm

Are they free range? I only want free range so as not to be supporting cruelty.

Vegetables? That is what food eats.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:15 pm

How about we just put all of the globalist misinformation liars on an island somewhere way far away free people and let them have at it? These people are lunatics.

Chinablue
Chinablue
February 10, 2022 5:19 pm

If they really wanted to reduce ‘greenhouse gasses’ all we have to do is eliminate all the idiots pushing this crap, along with the idiots that believe this BS. That would save the planet, and more importantly, make life for the rest of us so much better.

nkit
nkit
February 10, 2022 5:19 pm

Fuck Patrick Brown and his “Impossible Foods.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:19 pm

Fuck those people and their computer models.
If they want to go vegan, have at it.
But yet again, they want to tell other people what to do,
to achieve their vision of nirvana and end the boogeymen in their imaginations.
They can go pound sand.
How about we stop TPTB from spraying the chemtrails across the land.
Any idea about just how many minerals have been eradicated from the once fertile soil
that small farmers try to grow nutritious food in?
Vitamin supps are good, but if you’re not supplementing with beneficial minerals, too, then
your immune system could be lacking some vital tools it needs to keep you healthy.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:54 pm

Utopian dreams of any sort require force. If you want to live under some sort of tyranny, advocate for a Utopia.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.
February 10, 2022 5:26 pm

There will be no problem keeping the temp down. Global cooling (solar minimum) will take care of that for the next 50 years.
Getting rid of animal products decreases emissions by 68%?
These jokers are hysterical.
I’m so over climate change and they haven’t even started in earnest yet…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Steve Z.
February 10, 2022 7:40 pm

I’m reliably informed by saint Al Gore that globull warming actually causes cooling.

willem
willem
February 10, 2022 5:30 pm

Actually, this won’t work. The vast majority of ruminants (grass-eating livestock) live on land that is not suitable for agriculture. I wonder where all the food we’d need to grow to replace them would come from?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  willem
February 10, 2022 6:58 pm

There was a movie……. I think Charlton Heston was in it…..

Seem to align with the idea that some have that we should reduce the human population to 500 million.

willem
willem
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 9:10 pm

Dang! They’re out of the Green again…..

Toujours Pret
Toujours Pret
  willem
February 10, 2022 7:57 pm

I remember reading an article a number of years ago about a person in japan who made a crap burger and actually ate it. A possible entree along with the biosludge problem.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Toujours Pret
February 10, 2022 8:05 pm

I did not need to know that.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Toujours Pret
February 11, 2022 7:52 am

Ahh yes, our friends, the crazy Japanese….

BANZAI!!!!!

Let them lead the way on that….

willem
willem
  willem
February 10, 2022 9:09 pm

Oh, and let’s not forget all the energy that would be expended in planting, harvesting, processing, and distributing the crops. (And don’t forget the fertilizer….no more animals for THAT, either!)

Ken31
Ken31
  willem
February 10, 2022 10:09 pm

More accurately, the only types of sustainable agriculture involve the use of animals, because that is how ecosystems work. This ties neatly into how ecosystems work in that some land is best suited for animals, as well. People are animals, so this is a lucky thing.

However, don’t try reasoning with these assholes. They are liars and they know only lies.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:32 pm

The hubris of these idiots is beyond understanding.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:34 pm

90+% reduction in air travel.

ATarese
ATarese
February 10, 2022 5:36 pm

The logic is total BS, but I am a trillion percent in favor of ending the lifelong misery and daily torturing of millions of sentient animals who feel pain just as much as we do..

Steven
Steven
  ATarese
February 10, 2022 7:27 pm

So what do these so called experts plan to do with the millions of cattle and other animals currently raised and farmed for food? Just mass murder them all? Disgraceful lack of any kind of ethics.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:43 pm

I’d rather kill everyone in Africa, and raise beef cattle there.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:51 pm

I suppose they want to let the bison restore their herd to pre-European levels?

No matter, will it make any difference in the world if India, Brazil and China don’t kill all the cows running around their countries? As with carbon dioxide emissions, them first please.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 5:56 pm

How many of your “eliminations” require the force of government to achieve?

I for one want nothing to do with the dystopia you desire.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 6:35 pm

The point was that they focus on the outcome they want.

Get it?

Yes. Everything for them and nothing for us and be happy about it.

In toto…G.R.E.E.D

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 7:11 pm

Got bad news for you, honey, but at this point not everyone is going to make it out alive. There are some who have been on this world far too long. The selection of who to die is simple: If you are an agitprop for Klaus Schwab ((( whose fucking mother is a Rothschild))) and a perpetrator of scams concerning global warming, carbon-based fuels are bad, eating bugs and fake meat, battery electric cars, cashless society; etc., then you should die. It really is that simple.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 8:22 pm

That’s because you are “The government”
You are their obedient parasite.
A bought and paid for slave.
Right, Micropenis?

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 8:25 pm

The pathetic little “antiwork” troll isn’t worth anyone’s time.
Although it is rollicking good times to kick it in the clit.

Den
Den
February 10, 2022 6:02 pm

New study this, new study that, don’t even have to read them to know what they say, just ask – who paid for it? You’ll know the answer.

TJF
TJF
February 10, 2022 6:03 pm

Mr. Brown, who makes his living selling fake meat-like products did a study and concluded we should all buy more of his product. Seems legit. No conflict of interest there.

BL
BL
February 10, 2022 6:05 pm

I’m not eating that crap. Anyone interested in some fantastic vegetable dinners flavored with bullion, lemme know. They will eventually go bankrupt and go away! Yuk….

Bullwinkle
Bullwinkle
February 10, 2022 6:11 pm

Man as god should make all predators in the animal kingdom to stop eating meat too.
It is discrimination and racist(Speciest) to only allow lower animals to eat meat.

daddy Joe
daddy Joe
February 10, 2022 6:32 pm

Thanks admin but I couldn’t last through the first ten percent of this stupid, fake science bullshit. As soon as I saw California I was done.

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
February 10, 2022 6:48 pm

I remember back in the 70s when “soy burgers” hit the market. My aunt wanted to try one. Tasted horrible. Took one bite and spit it out.

Can’t remember which Ag Skool did this (Aubarn or Starksville, I think?). They went to numerous Taco Bells® & bought tacos, taco salads, chalupas, etc. and analyzed the beef content of beef.

It was between 28-38%. The rest was filler – cellulose, wood fiber, flavor/color additives, soy, MSG, etc.

Vigilant
Vigilant
  lamont cranston
February 10, 2022 9:33 pm

They were required to bring it up to at least 40% beef or else they could no longer call it beef on the menu.

Debunkerita
Debunkerita
February 10, 2022 6:53 pm

What these arguments refuse to acknowledge is that some of us do better on a protein/fat based diet. As a diabetic, the ketogenic diet (mostly protein and fat-based) helps me keep my blood glucose at a stable level and I’m able to lose weight. Conversely, a plant based diet increases my fiber and helps to control blood glucose, but is much more difficult to sustain. Carbohydrates burn quickly and you must eat a higher volume to achieve satiety. Women require more carbs, men more meat, as a general rule. It’s how we’re wired.

Started reading recently Folk Medicine by old Vermont doc DC Jarvis. He has since passed on to his reward but that doc is onto something!

Mushroom Cloud
Mushroom Cloud
  Debunkerita
February 10, 2022 10:21 pm

Almost like they want us to be sick and feeble…

Leah
Leah
  Mushroom Cloud
February 10, 2022 11:20 pm

Not almost unless you meant to post /sarc.

Leah
Leah
February 10, 2022 6:59 pm

Professor Brown is also the CEO of Impossible Foods, a California company that sells plant-based meat substitutes, including its Impossible Burger containing an additive that makes it appear like it’s ‘bleeding’.

Yum/s. I’ll take the real thing, thank you.

Mark A Vossler MD
Mark A Vossler MD
February 10, 2022 7:06 pm

They will have to pry my porterhouse from my cold, dead hands.

David
David
February 10, 2022 7:13 pm

As former vegetarians who consumed lots of faux “meat”, and have been raising and hunting our own meat for 15 years now, I can say that health is one of the biggest reasons not to avoid animal protein. Taste and texture are not the most important reasons to consume meat!

Yes, there would likely be some carbon benefit with an end of industrial (grain based) meat production, mostly because it would dramatically reduce the need for annual tillage. There would be far *more* benefit for both the atmosphere and human health if there was a transition to grass-based meat production.

The amount of carbon sequestered in regularly grazed grasslands (like the great plains and their famous soil) was put there largely by the effects of grazing, and is removed by tillage (most of which is for grain based animal feed). I’ve seen figures suggesting that nearly half of anthropogenic CO2 emissions came from regular tillage of agricultural soils, most of which have seen dramatic declines in organic matter (i.e. carbon) content. Many were formerly about 6% organic matter. 1.5% is now quite common.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2022 7:19 pm

Vegans and a guy who wants to sell fake meat have discovered that making meat is very bad.

Next they are going to fully study the benefits of completely removing all humans from earth. Early signs are this would achieve all carbon zero targets almost overnight. Governments around the world are keen to implement this new method.

The great green fairy in the sky is pleased.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
  Anonymous
February 10, 2022 7:52 pm

” Next they are going to fully study the benefits of completely removing all humans from earth. ”
They started advertising that with their (((Wildlands Project))) way back around 1995. The Sealevel Rising Bullshit started right after that. That’s about the time I started my journey down into the Abyss of Cynicism.
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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Coalclinker
February 10, 2022 8:35 pm

You are quite a bit ahead of me. I only took an interest after getting robbed of everything in the engineered crisis of 2008.

I have seen that map before. Telling people about this years before Convid got me labeled a loon. A few people I know are waking up lately . Far to few I’m afraid.

Balbinus
Balbinus
February 10, 2022 9:21 pm

HOGWASH! Not ever will one bite of that poison ever cross my lips.

Leah
Leah
  Balbinus
February 10, 2022 11:21 pm

Amen.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
February 10, 2022 9:27 pm

So by using “biomass” we’re back to burning wood for energy. Great! Doesn’t matter. A blip on the great climate history of Earth. What gets me is the dishonesty, I mean, sliding the span of years in order to show an increase on a graph? What we need to do is include ALL the data we have available. I think the “global warming” issue really isn’t one. And actions are being discussed and we can’t be sure we’re not making matter worse.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  WestcoastDeplorable
February 11, 2022 2:15 am

They’re already going after wood-burning stoves.

Balbinus
Balbinus
February 10, 2022 9:32 pm

You have solved the puzzle. To bad the powers won’t let the plan work.

Ken31
Ken31
February 10, 2022 10:05 pm

No. I just immediately chalk it up to jews being up to their usual tricks again, without having to waste all that effort remembering lists of their crimes.

Sisofia
Sisofia
February 10, 2022 10:33 pm

Fuck the vegans.

Jdog
Jdog
February 10, 2022 11:45 pm

Just the latest panic porn. We are going to take away your meat… Next week it will be something else. Keep the sheep in panic…

Ghost of Maggie
Ghost of Maggie
February 10, 2022 11:48 pm

This is quite interesting about the diet of monkeys in zoos causing their gut microbiome to become human-like… I’m sure it is related to a diet including processed foods and antibiotics, which their bodies would not need if they were eating a natural diet in the wild.

And, it explains where all those billions of dollars in research funding are spent: On popsicle sticks for gathering monkey poop.

At least they are gorgeous monkeys.

Captivity Makes Monkey Microbiomes More Human-Like
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Our microbiomes winnowed when we swapped hunting and gathering for cities—and a few months in a zoo will do the same to a monkey.

By Ed Yong

August 29, 2016

Monkeys don’t get much more attractive than the red-shanked douc. It looks like it applied a dusting of rouge to its face—a face that is topped by a black cap, flanked by a white beard, and plastered with a permanently innocent expression. From the neck down, it has a black-and-charcoal shirt with a rusty collar, white sleeves, a pair of hipster-red stockings, and a white tail.

Gorgeous. But perhaps slightly less so when you’re running after one, waiting for it to poop.

That’s what Jonathan Clayton from the University of Minnesota did for nine months, in the Vietnamese jungles where the doucs are found. He tracked 66 of them as they scampered through the trees. When they defecated—and for some reason, when one goes, they all go—Clayton and his colleagues ran over to scoop the poop with some pre-labelled popsicle sticks, one for each individual monkey.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/08/captivity-makes-monkey-microbiomes-more-human-like/497897/

i forget
i forget
February 11, 2022 1:38 am

I remember when seeing centerfold models was believing. And then came that low airbrush whistle to let me know I was navel etc gazing past grave(n image?)yards. Cue Doctor My Eyes, Jackson Brown.

In ’87, the academics were trying, not too successfully, to mandate me into the church of the efficient market hypothesis models. Then black-cherry-on-top Paint It Black Monday came. Pretty damn insanely efficient, I thought – like Stalin.

Later came medical models obviously assembled by epileptically seized & delirium tremens affirmative action hires.

But for the real George Carlin level bullshit call-out, when it comes to models, the ones the styrene glue-jarhead huffers get computers to spit out cannot be s/topped.

I remember one of the iterations of Robin Hood. The King owned everything. Sherwood Forest & everything in it – all King stuff. Guys were getting torturecuted for poaching a King’s deer. Veni, Vidi, Venison – yer dead, Zed.

I need a model, spit from a computer, to figure what’s gonna happen to the substitute meat proteins – & all the meaty Nottingham sheriffs, too, among others – after animal farm is shut down. You know, just to confirm, officially, from an official computer, that some animals will still be not just more equal than other animals, but will eat all the other animals off the face of the earth.

Maybe dust off (does any dust ever settle on this damn thing?) & reuse/call it the “we hadda burn down the village ta’ save it” model.

rhs jr
rhs jr
February 11, 2022 2:40 am

I looked at this “study” and believe that every finding can be shown to be false using genuine Science. Far greater harm would probably be done by a government program to phase out livestock . On the contrary, government should be phased back, especially Welfare which is causing exponential growth in populations that produce nothing but consume and reproduce abundantly. Eliminating Food Stamps would greatly reduce the consumption of meat, beer, illegal drugs and snack foods.

Shotgun Trooper
Shotgun Trooper
February 11, 2022 4:55 am

Computer Modeling, you say? What, on that same Commodore 64 they’re using to model Global whatever?

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 11, 2022 7:37 am

Owner of grossburgers says eliminate all real food. That is all.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
February 11, 2022 8:45 am

If we eliminate all the people saying we need to eliminate meat then we would be good to go with all the meat we want.

Soylent Blue deez nuts fuckers.

ZFG, out.

A cruel accountant
A cruel accountant
February 11, 2022 9:09 am

Oh my God I didn’t know we were doomed nobody told me what am I gonna do what am I gonna do what am I gonna do

Oh wait

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  A cruel accountant
February 11, 2022 9:13 am

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BL
BL
  hardscrabble farmer
February 11, 2022 9:16 am

I knew that handsome little guy would show up on a thread today. I laugh EVERY TIME.

Ghost of Maggie
Ghost of Maggie
  hardscrabble farmer
February 11, 2022 9:19 am
hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ghost of Maggie
February 11, 2022 9:20 am

I wish.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ghost of Maggie
February 11, 2022 9:23 am

The team said it gave the “utmost attention to ethical considerations… by coordinating closely with regulatory agencies” during their research.

Technology developed by Weizhi Ji and his team at Kunming University of Science and Technology in Yunnan, China has made the attempts at chimeras – which have been ongoing since the 1970’s – possible.

Totally reassuring, because whenever I think of ethics, regulatory agencies comes to mind.

Ghost of Maggie
Ghost of Maggie
  hardscrabble farmer
February 11, 2022 9:27 am

I’ve got a half-dozen of these articles open right now. Am bombarding JC with a bunch of questions today because very early in the “scamdemic” he discussed why they use pigs for organ research (disgusting articles on human-pig chimeras in China) and monkeys for research regarding the human brain.

What could possibly go wrong?

And, yes… CDC approved research (March 2020 findings, hmmmm?) on coronavirus vaccines for humanized monkeys.

Cha-Ching… always follow the research money. Always.

Ghost of Maggie
Ghost of Maggie
  hardscrabble farmer
February 11, 2022 9:30 am

I think “CIA” when pondering ethics AND intelligence.

BL
BL
  Ghost of Maggie
February 11, 2022 9:35 am

Mags- Ancient Indian texts clearly speak of the use of the monkey men who were neither human or ape but a blend of ape and man who did the heavy lifting and assisted and worked along side humans. I guess monkey men are making a comeback. 🙂

Ghost of Maggie
Ghost of Maggie
  BL
February 11, 2022 9:50 am

When human DNA was blended with chimp DNA and cells began “differentiation”, there was alteration in the normal growth in the chimp egg. (Ethics demand that human DNA be inserted into the animal which is how they get around the ethics of it all). Because all embryo cells are identical through the “blastula” stage, there is no way to know which cells will become what. At the blastula stage, cells begin to differentiate, meaning some become cells which develop arms or the head while other cells become legs and organs. It can only be Design.

So, they’ve blended the DNA in a chimp egg, put it into a chimp and had success with growth (28 days is when the measurement was made, suggesting they dissected at least ONE of the embryos, but we do realize there are others, don’t we?) in the chimp’s womb.

What they saw was that the monkey brain increased greatly in size in the blended RNA embryo.

Think on that one.

Then, go ask HSF’s monkey-boy.

This approaches abominations of desolation, preacher man and everyone out there.

We are surely seeing the End of Days.

BL
BL
  Ghost of Maggie
February 11, 2022 9:57 am

Ghosty- This approaches the dawning of “PLANET OF THE APES” for realz.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  BL
February 11, 2022 11:11 pm

To get it to work, they need to use the DNA of Almas, Big Foot, etc, which are already Humanoids.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ghost of Maggie
February 11, 2022 10:03 am

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Bullwinkle
Bullwinkle
February 11, 2022 11:34 pm

Nature/All Creation, is PERFECT!
It has sustained it self through every cataclysmic event since the beginning.
Nature will continue to function perfectly long after Man is gone.
It will even repair the Damage Man has caused after Man has gone.

Man has the belief that it knows better and should make the Perfection of Nature ….Better.
Man tries to make Nature better by destroying most of it.