Today is Memorial Day, honoring all of our veterans. I appreciate their sacrifice. But did they fight and die to protect our freedoms, or did they fight and die for oil, arms dealers, and oligarchs?
Why exactly did they die in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Syria and numerous other countries we’ve invaded?
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Illusion. I•lose•shun. The Aleutian Welanders go marching. For lack of an I, We’s join up ~ congeal into Borgian Cubes ~ to make Cuppa Soup for money-mad Machiavellians.
So that stuff about the noble sniper… he was part of an invasion force. Might as well blather bout the nobility of home invasion robbers & murderers.
We would be FAR more free had we stayed out of WWII in Europe,
and not cornered Japan into attacking us with idiotic “sanctions.”
Being “The World’s Policeman” only makes the world’s “mayors
and city councils” rich by enforcing their edicts.
The US succumbed to the most dangerous virus, i.e. the English’ obsession of extracting the wealth of the world exclusively, at any cost. What is now a decomposing cadaver, a failed state, could have become the beacon of freedom and peace – but as it stands the US is a lethal threat to mankind instead. Americans, you messed it up. You could have become the saviors of the Occident, instead you fucked it up big style. You couldn’t keep the Republic. You forfeited the articles of confederation. A president can call your constitution a “piece of paper”. You have infinitely less pride, will or energy than an average goat fucker fighting your billion $$$ army with kalashnikovs. Those you claim have died for “your freedom” would spit out in disgust if they saw what you allow your slumlords do to you.
“The Law Of Thirds”
33% of us patriots want no part of what the 66% have done.
We spit on it every day.
“We” are separate from “they” that did everything you describe.
“We” also didn’t get jabbed, so “we” will be in the majority
soon enough.
auf wiedersehen to the 66%.
A.M.Fs. is correct.
My sense is that it’s been a transition from around WWII or so until the present. As the Japanese, Nazi, and Soviet empires fell, the driving motive changed from fighting for freedom to that of establishing an American empire.
A bit of reading about how the United States was conned into WW1 by jewish interests in creating israel might convince you otherwise — i.e., the truth about the Balfour Declaration …
And, then, of course (((they))) had the Germans totally neutered — politically, economically and psychologically — by the Treaty of Versailles that ended WW1 and pretty much guaranteed that WW2 would eventually take place. Germany is still a cucked nation … (((they))) have seen to that …
We also manipulated Japan into attacking US and getting US into WW2 in the Pacific … and our entry into WW2 in Europe was a foregone conclusion.
Korea — Vietnam — and every other ‘war’ since WW2 has never been about defending our Nation — we don’t even bother to defend our borders for the past several decades (since the 1965 law that LBJ signed) … Trump’s efforts notwithstanding …
Probably since like king george III PO’d some group. Find out who bankrolled hamilton and you’ll be closer to the truth.
They died in foreign wars which did not concern America, but which impoverished us for no benefit to anyone except the elites…WW1 was a particularly egregious example, in which American intervention made matters much worse, since the combatants were exhausted and would have settled peaceably otherwise…
Always remember, never forget. All wars are banker wars.
All of them.
No fair. QOTD shouldn’t be rhetorical.
Empire. There has not been a war fought for freedom in America since 1812. The people who join the military do not do so to serve the American people, but to serve the government, bankers and industrialists who support both sides in every war. That is the harsh reality.
“There has not been a war fought for freedom in America since 1812.”
Depends on which side you are on.
Seems back in 1861-1865 the South was fighting for their freedom from a tyrannical government just like the founders in 1776. But, alas it turned out to be a banker-war also.
Agreed, the last time any American (Soldiers of the Confederate states of America) fought for true freedom was against the invading Northern army. This was the end of States rights. Lincoln was an evil tyrant owned by the elite bankers. The last hope of defeating the evil was crushed by the soviets, u.s., and great britain when they created the uhnoly alliance to invade, destroy and punish the German people, even long after the war had ended.
“[T]he contest is really for empire on the side of the North, and for independence on that of the South, and in this respect we recognize an exact analogy between the North and the Government of George III, and the South and the Thirteen Revolted Provinces. These opinions…are the general opinions of the English nation.”
London Times, November 7, 1861
“Our country demands all our strength, all our energies. To resist the powerful combination now forming against us will require every man at his place. If victorious, we will have everything to hope for in the future. If defeated, nothing will be left for us to live for.”
Robert E. Lee
They died for the bankers who finance and profit from both sides of every war since at least the time of Napoleon — the rothschild family made that clear even back then …
As for some of the more recent ‘wars’ — Vietnam and Afghanistan, particularly, were merely a screen for the CIA to preserve and protect its place as the largest drug cartel in the world … aided during the Vietnam war by the mossad and the meyer lansky crime syndicate that also profited so very well from it.
most of them thought they were fighting for freedom. but already even in ww2 they were fighting for bankers. the industrial age made a new top-level predator possible on this planet – namely, the corporation. This is the new life form at the top of the food chain for over a hundred years. This was a new direction on a trend of concentration of power into the hands of a small cabal of bankers, which had already been going on for a century before _that_, and was especially at home riding on the back of the british empire and the bank of england.
For very fundamental reasons the british empire was pretty well exhausted by the first decade of the 20th century.
The first world war was a cataclysm of the combination of the birth pains of the new top-tier predator assuming its role as such , the replacement of older traditional western civilization with a machine empire (which superficially kept some of the image of the old civilization around for propaganda value), and simultaneously, the banker cabal ensuring that they were wholly in charge of this new corporate machine empire, and transferring their base of power from the failing british empire (which was also still too old-fashioned for their taste), onto the back of the rising power of america. The federal reserve was created as the true founding moment of the new transfer of their home base.
The second world war was the consolidation and cementing into place a worldwide corporate/bankster ruling clique to ‘manage’ everything. They had underwritten the soviet system as a possible further refinement of total banker/corporate/technocrat power, by basically transforming the entire russian empire into a single corporation. But they hedged their bets by keeping the federal reserve empire around as well and used the tension ‘twixt the two to erode and demolish all the still remaining edifices of culture, civilization, tradition, humanity itself, that would have challenged their total technocrat rule.
Over time the exact nature of the ‘they’ involved changed, some of this was generational turnover, and some of this was born out of the success of computers and electronic automation after the second war. The older cabal of one-world-government types, fabians and their ilk, might have dreamed of something like computers, but i doubt anybody before the mid-40s really could have envisioned even a tiny bit of what came after in terms of its ability to reduce processes to mindless repetition, and to track and keep a tab on absolutely everything in existence. But when those capabilities matured in the 60s.. the machine empire adopted them as a new religion.
competent generalist humans capable of critical thought and independent reason, were neither desired by the machine empire nor trusted. the machine empire wanted hyperfocused specialists, who were just co-processors for the bits of the automation machine they hadnt figured out how to automate yet. the old reductionist mania went a bazillionfold wilder after that.
so no, those poor fucks were not really fighting for freedom, but they thought they were.
Remember, guys – it’s not a lie if you believe it.
Soldiers, police: human dogs that won’t hesitate to beat, rob, and kill unarmed populations if their political masters order them to do so.
warriors: men who fight and even sacrifice their lives to defend their land, their people, their culture, from the abovementioned political masters
I’m a veteran though did not deploy into a combat zone. Sadly, I do not believe our fallen vets died for our freedom. They merely died following the orders of bankers and politicians. Our history is mostly bullshit.
The died for Empire of Lies which means a lie . They died for a lie.
OVERLORD: The Unnecessary Invasion
By
William F. Moore
Lieutenant Colonel, USAF
A research report submitted to the faculty
in
fulfillment of the research
requirement
Research Advisor: Dr. Joseph L. Strange
Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama
March 1986
The massive allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944 was not necessary for the military defeat of Germany. The German Army had already been destroyed on the eastern front, and the German war industry was being devastated by the combined bombing offensive. According to Trumbull Higgins,
When the British were finally compelled by their Allies to invade France in 1944, it was an invasion essentially undertaken in the self-interest of the West, the terrible risk of the collapse of the Soviet Union having long since passed. At this date the Red Army no longer needed more than Western supplies with which to occupy eastern Europe. (4:283)
The Normandy invasion was simply too late to be of meaningful assistance to the Russians. In fact, Stalin had conceded that is was no longer necessary.
Furthermore, many capable allied strategists knew that OVERLORD was no longer required and recommended against it. Why were these recommendations not heeded, especially since they would have resulted in greatly reduced British and American casualties? Two considerations cannot be ignored. First was the sheer momentum behind the OVERLORD planning. American planners had placed all their European “eggs” in this basket, they had been advocating OVERLORD against the British for over two years, and they were unwilling to concede to the British position in late 1943.
Secondly, American leaders, including Roosevelt, felt that unless American forces took a significant (albeit late) share in defeating the German Army, the Russians would be entirely uncooperative in the post-war world and probably would not assist in defeating the Japanese. The British were much less concerned about Russian sensitivities, feeling instead that their post-war interests would be better served by strengthening and conserving their armed forces rather than squandering them on the beaches of Normandy.
OVERLORD was not a military necessity; it was an unnecessary military gamble that could easily have failed. In retrospect, it is impossible to understand why American strategists were so committed to it. This commitment itself is evidence of serious strategic inflexibility. American planners either could not or would not adjust to the realities of the European theater in late 1943 and early 1944. Having already made the investment in a strategic bombing force that, in combination with the Russian Army, could have defeated Germany in a matter of months, why did the US not unleash the bombers and turn its attention to the Pacific theater? Why did US strategists not accept British recommendations for a less risky Mediterranean/Balkan strategy that would have left the western forces in a much more favorable post-war position relative to the Russians? The answers to these questions have political as well as military dimensions. President Roosevelt believed he could buy Stalin’s post-war cooperation. When Stalin expressed his final preference for OVERLORD at Tehran, he essentially allowed American political and military strategy to coalesce. OVERLORD was what the Russians still wanted and it was what Gen Marshall had always wanted. Roosevelt could not have been more pleased.
https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/NoOverlord/index.html
>>>allied strategists knew that OVERLORD was no longer required
No OVERLORD very strongly implies that the Red Army proceeds to the Atlantic coast.
Preventing this outcome was of paramount importance to Team US-UK. The Germans were, at this point, almost irrelevant.
Total bullshit. There would not even have been a Soviet Union sans the Lend Lease program, and without it the Soviets would now all be speaking German. In June of 44 , The Soviet Union was still a far cry from being able to wage war against the West and Patton would have fixed that too if not murdered by Ike.
We the People built the Soviet Union , just as within the last few decades we’ve built another arch enemy China. All wars are bankers wars , because war keeps the people from facing their true enemy; the people who make the wars for profit.
History .Get some.
From Major Jordans Diaries
by George Racey Jordan
From the Preface
My reason for writing this book is very simple: I would like to keep the record straight. I want to put in permanent form. the full story of my experiences as a Lend-Lease expediter and liaison officer with the Russians during the war, when I served for two crucial years, from May 1942 to Lune 1944, both at Newark Airport and at the big air base at Great Falls, Montana.
I went into the Army as a businessman in my forties and a veteran of World War I. From the first, as my story shows, I worked wholeheartedly on behalf of the Russians because, like everyone else, I considered it my duty to do so. That they were satisfied with my efforts is indicated by the fact that it was Colonel Kotikov, head of the Russian mission at Great Falls, who requested my promotion to Major.
But the tremendous volume of Lend-Lease material going through under “diplomatic immunity,” the infiltration of SOviet agents through the Pipeline, the shipments of non- supplies and even military secrets, were more than I could stomach. I finally protested through proper channels, first in Great Falls, and then in Washington; nothing happened. This was in 1944, while I was still in the Army.
https://archive.org/details/FromMajorJordansDiaries1952Signed/mode/2up?q=from+major+jordan%27s+diaries
I am very thankful we entered WW2. If not, perhaps Germany would have developed the nuclear bomb (since we would have had no need for it) and we would have lost our country earlier than now. Sorry kids, at least I had a good childhood because of our soldiers.
At the expense of future generations. Your welcome I guess…
You are soooo right.
If we hadn’t defeated the German people we would have never enjoyed gay marriage, unrestricted abortion, total invasion of our southern border, rampant divorce, AIDS, dual citizenship politicians, technocracy, the Amerikan communist parties (Ds & Rs), traitor (((churches))), permissive drug policies, forced desegregation, grooming in public schools, degeneracy in Hollywood, rap culture, and decaying infrastructure.
Thank the Gods Hitler never got his hands on the ‘bomb’. Imagine how bad it would be.
Not surprising to most here but that questions beyond my pay grade.
I’ll honor them none the less.
Anyone read USMC General Smedly Butler’s “War is a Racket?”
I have purchased many copies for friends and others. Received an award from our governor and presented him a copy at the ceremony.
The last war America fought for Freedom was the Civil War, which was in actuality a separatist rebellion. Ever since Grant sold us out in 1871 every war henceforth has been at the behest of our overlords in the City of London Corporation and their proxies in NYC. A true American war for freedom would start with turning DC, NYC, City of London Corporation, and Tel Aviv into piles of dust.
If you want to neuter the Devil you start by destroying usury.
The Civil War had nothing to do with freedom. While the rebel in me would like to think the war was about States rights, it was not.
It was about industrialists in the North and their bankers competing with the plantation owners in the South, and their bankers. As usual, the dumb shits holding the rifles did not have a clue why they were there. The people in the South had nothing to gain from the war, and everything to lose. They were just another victim of the bankers game.
Which is why there was substantial pro-Union support south of the Mason-Dixon line, even after the shooting started. Civil wars are a God-awful mess…..
This fighting for freedom thing is a bullshit line anyway. We didn’t fight for freedom. We fight to keep from getting our ass shot off. No war is a soldiers war, only the battle. War is always one political idea against another be it for cash, grass or ass.
I recall a bumper sticker with similar message to do with hitchikers , 70’sish, No gas. No grass. No ass. No free ride.
At the age of 60,I must say I am quite confused by what I have learned in the last few years thanks to covid, .gov is way worse than the foulest of imaginations and the thought that things have got WORSE since then for the world and America…the answer is obvious!,
EMPIRE with unknown (?)beneficiaries…..
Ask the Brits. They’re still throwing lives away for the illusion of empire. Many Afghans in the remote valleys called us English… because they truly thought they were still fighting the First Afghan War (18th century, part of GB’s ‘Great Game’ with Russia).
I spent a decade of my life fighting that war and can’t say that we ever had clear strategic goals. Served with more than a few who gave their lives. At least we were going after some real evil (AQ baddies). I feel for the many conventional soldiers who ate it for no reason… driving over an IED on a presence patrol.
All to prop up a ‘democratic government’ that was much more corrupt than the religious fundamentalists they replaced. Did you know the Taliban outlawed the ‘Kandahari Ritual’ our allies were so fond of? If you don’t know it involves the abduction of young boys for use at ‘dance parties’ and as ‘domestic helpers.’
Bacha BazI! A specialty ” pizza” at that Comet Ping Pong joint in D.C., right?
Snopes has debunked all that. There are no pedophiles in government, or education.
Or media for that matter.
Like all of the more primitive Commonwealth countries, what the locals really need is new little cinder-block houses with mortgages and TeeVee.
Welcome to Western Civilization.
I wish to honor my Dad who was a Navy Seabee with the 33rd Construction battalion that landed on Iwo Jima with the Marines and had to fight their way off the beach which was a real trial. Thanks Dad…I miss you!
I miss mine too. Glad he isn’t alive to see these days though. He passed in July 2011. An Alum from his high school he taught at put his memories on their web page.
John Kessel
Narimasu Faculty 59-’64 and ’68-’71 (school closing)
USN and USMC
Purple Heart Recipient
The ORDER of the PURPLE HEART is awarded to members of the armed forces of the U.S. who are wounded by an instrument of war in the hands of the enemy and posthumously to the next of kin in the name of those who are killed in action or die of wounds received in action.
Highest rank: Pharmacist’s Mate 3/c
Branch and dates of service: USN/USMC 1943-1945: [28th Regt Fifth MarDiv]. I was pleased to be able to wear two WW II uniforms, one being that of the USN, where I became a hospital corpsman, and the other the USMC greens, when I was selected for Field Medical Forces. Entering into Marine life, I wore the Fifth Division Spearhead shoulder patch and was awarded a Pharmacist’s Mate “crow” to wear with it.
Awards and decorations: Purple Heart, Asiatic-Pacific ribbon, combat ribbon and others issued in that era.
Most memorable military experience: My best memory is that of being a part of the 40-man squad assigned to working its way to the top of Iwo Jima’s Mt. Suribachi on 23 February, 1945, in the Volcano Islands. My parents seemed proud to learn later that I had volunteered use of my camo poncho for our chaplain’s using it over a hastily-arranged altar of lava rocks when we followed our flag-raising with a brief service commemorating the event that morning.
When I reached SFO and a military receiving hospital, off the hospital ship USS BOUNTIFUL on Navy Day in 1945, all I owned was on my back –my green USMC dungarees. I found the Marine rear echelon quartermaster at the receiving unit wouldn’t issue me my needed Marine ‘Greens’ uniform –and the navy issue room in turn refused to issue me my navy blues. So I hopped a streetcar and chanced going into downtown SFO in the dungarees and at a uniform shop still open in the late evening outfitted myself with a set of tailor-made blues with my Fifth MarDiv patch sewn onto the left shoulder and my white navy crow with Ph.M. badge just below that. Topped off my ensemble with a nice new white ‘swabby’ cap and scuttled back to the hospital at Genessee and Moscow Street to reach my bunk before bed check. Although in the shape I was in at that time I doubt things would have been ugly for me if it had been discovered I’d been technically AWOL for part of the evening. Anyway, by that time of my long journey back from the USN Hospital at Guam I didn’t much give a hoot.
Looking back over my career as an instructor, I next most favor the memory of having been able to devote nearly 30 years in another government branch–the Dept. of Defense Overseas Dependents Schools program, which I considered the most useful way to spend the life I was spared after combat.
An email he sent me 2003 included this:
” I don’t recall , especially , feeling fear on the LSVP as we cruised in toward the beach ; I really think more , when thinking about it at all , about how darn cold I was one night , covered up with a big wet dark green dirty JPN Imperial Marine blanket with another two guys , in a mortar hole , trying to keep warm together . We watched as the JPNese fired red flares into the murk overhead and then the USA ones , brighter white with bluish tinge that made them really bright . We could hear them popping and frizzing as they sank to the ground from overhead . I told myself that if I could ever get warm again in this life I would never gripe again about our Mid-Plains summer heat !
Recently came upon SANDS OF IWO JIMA film in progress- on TV . Boatload of guys being splashed around , all somber and plainly terrified of going into the beach . I thought back to my boatload –we were ready to hit the beach and if anybody was shaking in his bondockers it sure wasn’t apparent on his face .
Mostly I peered over the side to watch the mighty battlewagons’ thunderous lobbing of 18-inchers into the ridges over the beaches’ line . Little realizing at that time the shells were mostly ineffective against the JPN dug-in revetments . And heartening to see the carriers’ SNJs and Corsairs’ diving from low altitudes to pepper their mission areas . I’d always been fascinated with those F4F Corsairs’ gull wings and their mighty Pratt-Whitney 1200 HP 4-bladed engines zooming around over Pendleton skies .
Our APA transports were loaded to the weather decks with fully outfitted and ready recons and jeeps ; while waiting debarking orders it was novel to stand by near those jeeps ; their drivers had Radio Tokyo tuned in and as we watched the whaling those beaches were getting Tokyo Rose was commiserating with us , telling how sorry she was to have to be reporting that American Maines were being pushed back onto the beaches from all over the island landings and falling back into the sea , repulsed from the shores by ferocious JPN forces’ pushing us away from the island . ”
And this the same year:
“The price you quoted for that .45 is of course exorbitant but then so
are all current handgun prices .
The .45 James Bradley’s father carried at Iwo he wisely lent me to carry
for him while we climbed Suribachi –I attached it to my
belt as a favor but , like him , continued relying on my sweet little .35
carbine instead that morning of 23 February .
Thanks to the guys ahead of us zapping the holdouts with their napalm on
the way up, the climb for me was uneventful . The enemy we passed along the
trail were just smoking hulks . The smart ones made themselves scarce , scooting
back down into their vast tunnel system warrens to avoid trouble .
The .45 is big in the movies , but it is cumbersome and no match for a
little Beretta .25 , which makes for not-so-noticeable carrying .
DEN cops are today carrying the Glock 9 , I notice . –Dad /”
Also an email he wrote to a man on a marine ceremony conducted on Iwo Jima:
“One of my two sons , now a retired 21-year submariner , forwarded this
to me .
I was a Ph.M serving with the 28th Marines of the Fighting Fifth and
was a member of the 40-man patrol led by Col. Nichols ,making our way to
the top of Mt. Suribachi that day . I, for one , felt nothing unusual as
we reached the top and erected the flags except a grim pride in having shown
the still-strong enemy force our achievement , signifying we would not be
denied ownership of that hateful mass of loose black lava sand and caveworks
. I lasted ten days after the flag-raising before becoming a casualty
myself . Two other corpsmen and I were the only medics from our Fth Medical
Battalion not lost in the operation .
You may not have known Col. Nichols –noted among us for the
pearl-handled .45 he carried behind his hip , was the victim of a direct
mortar hit on a later day . His pistol was found lying in the shell’s crater
.
I shall ever regret our country’s returning Iwo to the Japanese ,
though as a Dept of Defense Overseas Dependent Schools instructor I would in
time spend some 15 memorable and enjoyable years living among the Japanese
.
I am a Life Member of DAV and wish I might have been present at your
cemetery for the ceremony your photos show .”
Of course, his memory of the size of the guns was off but that is all he ever wrote me on the subject of Iwo.
The soldiers who died in combat died for the men and woman at their side,simple as.
At the Nuremberg trials, Field Marshall Hermann Wilhelm Göring (1893–1946) explained why the people followed Hitler.
“Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood.
But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.”
There it is. If FJB were to declare war on someone tomorrow, there would be dumbshits lining up at the recruiting offices thinking they were doing the right thing. Our duty as citizens is not to follow blindly, but to determine for ourselves wheat the truth is. And if the government is saying it, it ain’t the truth.
They don’t even try to hide it anymore. The entire Federal government is one big psyop ran for and by the money changers.
Memorial was started by families of fallen Confederate soldiers who were fighting for freedom from the empire. All who have fallen since have been casualties of the empire, because the empire won the war of secession.
Memorial Day doesn’t honor all our veterans. Just the ones who dies. Veteran’s Day is for all our veterans.
I am not sure they died for either as a rule. I suspect a lot died for corporations, money, political internal power.
You’re probably right. I can’t be certain, but can’t believe that was forefront in their brains…lalalet me die for corporations, money, and lalala.
Empire. It has been ever thus. That is not to question the motivations or bravery of those who fought. They were lied to.
We’d be speaking either Russian or German if the Greatest Generation didn’t win WWII. Pull your head out of your ass if you don’t grasp such a simple truth. Yes, they died for freedom.
But, all the wars we’ve been involved since then had nothing to do with freedom.
I never met my Uncle Dee. He was killed by a German machine gunner in France. R.I.P. Uncle Dee. We’ll never forget the sacrifice you made.
Somehow the sanctity and reverence of Memorial Day gets muddied when we apply logic and facts to the government purposes of going to war . Rarely is the call to war justified in a maze of rhymes & reasons that are generally left to be discovered when the dust of time is blown away from the cover up !
But none of that matters on Memorial Day ! This day is not about politicians and political failures .
I know many who served and came home and have passed on and I know a few with their name on a wall .
That’s who I think about on this day regardless where I may be and I still tear up when their memory comes to mind .
We owe them more as to what a leftist band of fools have perpetrated against this Republic and that rumbling I hear at night is not an earthquake but those veterans rolling over in their graves for our failures on our watch !
Fighting for our “freedoms”? Bringing them Democracy?
Hardee, har, har. What a fucking joke.
Nothing personal kids, it is just business.
Viet Nam may have had some legitimacy because it was a police action to thwart totalitarian communism. Same with Korea. The American Civil War, WWI, II, and everything since have been oligarch wars.
“Viet Nam may have had some legitimacy because it was a police action to thwart totalitarian communism.”
Preach it Brother! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the cornering, expansion, and Mgmt. of the heroin trade. Tennis shoe mfg. hub was the real goal.
Besides, can you imagine what kinda govt.’s we might have had today, had we lost?
None of us wanted to die for our country or give our lives for our county; some guys were unlucky and lost their lives serving their country. The liberal MIC and government today ain’t even worth serving; young man, avoid the military.