The American Dunning-Kruger Epidemic (Or Why Ignorant People Are So Sure They’re Right)

Guest Post by Daisy Luther

It’s time to address an epidemic in the United States. It’s one that could be deadly, particularly to liberty.

It’s an epidemic of Dunning-Kruger. It’s why ignorant people are so certain that they’re right.

What’s that, you ask?

The Dunning Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which individuals, who are unskilled at a particular task, believe themselves to possess above-average ability in performing the task. On the other hand, as individuals become more skilled in a particular task, they may mistakenly believe that they possess below-average ability in performing those tasks because they may assume that all others possess equal or greater ability. In other words, “the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others.” (source)

And haven’t we all seen that lately? Let’s look at a recent example right here in the good ole USA.

Those who haven’t lived like the rest of us are the ones shouting the loudest.

Let’s start with the current gun control debate.

We have high school kids who think they are experts on policy, firearms, and the Constitution, smugly telling us how clueless they believe we are.

We have movie stars who make millions from movies where they shoot people and who are protected by armed security guards, telling us that we, law-abiding citizens who have guns, are vicariously responsible for every school shooting that has ever happened.

We have wealthy city dwellers who live in buildings with doormen telling the rest of us that we’re nuts for wanting to protect ourselves.

And all of these people who want to loudly tell the rest of us how to live our lives have one thing in common: they are completely out of touch with the real world.

When you live in your guarded castles, you don’t have to worry about defending yourself from a rapist who might break in through your bedroom window. When you’re a kid, you can’t fathom the vast responsibility one feels as a parent to protect one’s children from home invaders or kidnappers. When you haven’t yet gone out there and lived your life with jobs and crime and financial instability, you have no idea what it’s really like for the average American.

And yet, these out-of-touch people are the ones screaming the loudest that only they know what is right for America.

And that’s where the Dunning-Kruger effect comes into play.

Back in 1999, social psychologists David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University performed tests on some subjects and discovered that in many cases, the lower the performance of a subject, the higher their confidence was that they had done well. They published their findings in a paper entitled “Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One’s Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments.

In an article by David Dunning called “We Are All Confident Idiots,” he wrote of his studies:

In 1999, in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, my then graduate student Justin Kruger and I published a paper that documented how, in many areas of life, incompetent people do not recognize—scratch that, cannot recognize—just how incompetent they are, a phenomenon that has come to be known as the Dunning-Kruger effect. Logic itself almost demands this lack of self-insight: For poor performers to recognize their ineptitude would require them to possess the very expertise they lack. To know how skilled or unskilled you are at using the rules of grammar, for instance, you must have a good working knowledge of those rules, an impossibility among the incompetent. Poor performers—and we are all poor performers at some things—fail to see the flaws in their thinking or the answers they lack.

What’s curious is that, in many cases, incompetence does not leave people disoriented, perplexed, or cautious. Instead, the incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge.

This isn’t just an armchair theory. A whole battery of studies conducted by myself and others have confirmed that people who don’t know much about a given set of cognitive, technical, or social skills tend to grossly overestimate their prowess and performance, whether it’s grammar, emotional intelligence, logical reasoning, firearm care and safety, debating, or financial knowledge. College students who hand in exams that will earn them Ds and Fs tend to think their efforts will be worthy of far higher grades; low-performing chess players, bridge players, and medical students, and elderly people applying for a renewed driver’s license, similarly overestimate their competence by a long shot. (source)

Hmmm….that sounds familiar.

And the way Dunning applies this to politics vividly demonstrates why we have the polarization we’re currently experiencing in the US.

Some of our most stubborn misbeliefs arise not from primitive childlike intuitions or careless category errors, but from the very values and philosophies that define who we are as individuals. Each of us possesses certain foundational beliefs—narratives about the self, ideas about the social order—that essentially cannot be violated: To contradict them would call into question our very self-worth. As such, these views demand fealty from other opinions. And any information that we glean from the world is amended, distorted, diminished, or forgotten in order to make sure that these sacrosanct beliefs remain whole and unharmed…

…Political and ideological beliefs, too, often cross over into the realm of the sacrosanct. The anthropological theory of cultural cognition suggests that people everywhere tend to sort ideologically into cultural worldviews diverging along a couple of axes: They are either individualist (favoring autonomy, freedom, and self-reliance) or communitarian (giving more weight to benefits and costs borne by the entire community); and they are either hierarchist (favoring the distribution of social duties and resources along a fixed ranking of status) or egalitarian (dismissing the very idea of ranking people according to status). According to the theory of cultural cognition, humans process information in a way that not only reflects these organizing principles, but also reinforces them. These ideological anchor points can have a profound and wide-ranging impact on what people believe, and even on what they “know” to be true.

It is perhaps not so surprising to hear that facts, logic, and knowledge can be bent to accord with a person’s subjective worldview; after all, we accuse our political opponents of this kind of “motivated reasoning” all the time. But the extent of this bending can be remarkable. In ongoing work with the political scientist Peter Enns, my lab has found that a person’s politics can warp other sets of logical or factual beliefs so much that they come into direct contradiction with one another. (source)

And most importantly:

Sacrosanct ideological commitments can also drive us to develop quick, intense opinions on topics we know virtually nothing about. (source)

This isn’t just about gun control, though.

This article isn’t just about the hot-button topic of gun control. It’s about how we’re living our everyday lives.

Here’s an example: People either love former President Donald Trump so much they are unwilling to see any wrongdoing or they despise him to the point that they are unwilling to recognize any right-doing. Most people’s analyses of the actions of the President are completely warped by their sacrosanct ideologies of whether he is “good” or “bad.” They don’t weigh the merits of the actions – instead, they judge them from a place of deeply committed cognitive bias.

The same thing is true for many topics:

  • Freedom of speech
  • Political ideologies
  • Economic theories
  • Gay rights
  • Abortion
  • The right to bear arms
  • Taxes
  • The bathroom drama at Target
  • Transgender issues
  • President Biden
  • Illegal immigration
  • Communism
  • Socialism

All of us – myself included – can look at the list above and immediately say whether we are for or against these things and what our specific belief is – but do we honestly know the details of these topics? Are our opinions sourced from cognitive bias or fact?

I have biases. You have them. We all do. However, the ability to recognize your own cognitive bias and not use it as “evidence” in a debate is the gold standard of intelligence.

This isn’t something that is going to change.

It’s completely normal for us to base our opinions on our own moral beliefs. As Dunning wrote, we are, at heart, either individualist or communitarian, hierchist, or egalitarian. These are core attributes that would be difficult, if not impossible, to change.

But what we CAN do is make a conscious effort to catch ourselves when we make rapid judgment calls without the facts. We can educate ourselves on both sides of an issue and make an effort to use facts instead of feelings in our arguments.

What we CANNOT do is expect everyone to play by these rules. But that’s okay because by understanding how an opposing view was developed, we can use that to fuel our own arguments. We can call out the cognitive biases. What we can’t expect is for facts to change their deeply held beliefs, no matter how ignorant those beliefs might be.

We can correct the lack of information, but we can’t really expect someone with a confident, sacrosanct opinion to change their mind. They’ll hold on to a belief even after it is proven factually incorrect because, as Dunning said, “We are all confident idiots.” Remember, facts have nothing to do with why they have their points of view.

The good news is that there are folks in the middle who may not have a deeply held opinion on hot-button topics. These are the folks who can be reached by logic and facts.  It’s nearly impossible to battle confident ignorance, but with facts, you can influence people who are undecided.

If you ask me what is going to be the end of our civilization, the rampant epidemic of Dunning-Kruger seems to be the most likely cause. Let’s not be guilty of this confident ignorance ourselves. Let’s vow to inoculate ourselves with facts instead of enabling ourselves with emotional biases.

What are your thoughts?

Do you feel that the Dunning-Kruger effect is responsible for many of the loud arguments going on in society today? How can you convince someone who argues with emotions to see facts? Do you have any other examples of cognitive dissonance you’d like to add to this?

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42 Comments
Jobrock Obiden
Jobrock Obiden
April 23, 2023 9:10 pm

A bit off subject but same principle. I work with a small group of college educated people. When the great plague started I did not wear the face diaper in the office like everyone else did. I thought someone else had to have an ounce of sense and would follow suit. Months later it never happened. All the fools who got the pokey were all proud in announcing it and then often missed work for a day or two due to the ‘side effects’. As a matter of fact the owner could not understand why he got the rona twice after having had 2 pokeys. Yes these people all believe they are smarter than me but the point is I am one out of 9 or 10 and not a single one ever figured it out. Yes I have very little(none really) faith that a great awakening will ever happen and then things will get better. The mass majority of people are incapable of critical thinking and I have resigned myself to watching the world burn as there is absolutely no way to reach them.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  Jobrock Obiden
April 23, 2023 10:09 pm

The D-K effect is not the CAUSE of the end of Western Civilization…

DK is a SYMPTOM of the end…

The root cause of our end is the Luciferian Jews…and the same reasons they’ve been evicted from over one hundred countries over the past two millenniums.

Every.
Single.
Time….

well_Inever
well_Inever
  Jobrock Obiden
April 24, 2023 5:13 am

Yes, we are surrounded by stupid’s. As just one example I have a brother who is so stupid he’s incapable and lacks the brain power of processing that he is stupid. There’s a name for this condition of which escapes me at the moment. At any rate, these type of people go around causing havoc in other peoples lives without comprehending what they’re doing then continue on their merry way. All the while thinking they’re the smartest person on the planet.

Ginger
Ginger
  well_Inever
April 24, 2023 6:46 am

I think that one is called The Earnest T Bass Effect.

VOWG
VOWG
  well_Inever
April 24, 2023 10:17 am

Well, if stupid was a medical condition the word anasognosia would apply.

VOWG
VOWG
  Jobrock Obiden
April 24, 2023 10:15 am

YES.

Gregabob
Gregabob
  Jobrock Obiden
April 24, 2023 11:52 am

Went to Trader Joe’s in Claremont, California yesterday- a college town with all that entails. Saw a young man in the parking lot heading to the store wearing a NIOSH respirator with magenta P100 filters….I suspect this individual would not be receptive to any sort of logical arguments about his susceptability to COVID infection. He KNOWS. He’s SMARTER than everyone else. Living example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
April 23, 2023 9:14 pm

Two words for this article – HUMAN NATURE.

Solution: Stay away from people. It’s the only way.

Yes, human nature will cause the end of civilization. This is not a revelation.

(oh sorry, was that fact-based or emotion-based? 🤔)

Au/Ag
Au/Ag
  Abigail Adams
April 23, 2023 9:29 pm

Human nature may, just may, save us from AI. Mankind may get a chance to do all of this all over again in 20 to 30 thousand years because of HUMAN NATURE. Who knows!

goat
goat
  Au/Ag
April 23, 2023 9:42 pm

Yeah, it makes you wonder how many times it has played out.

TCS
TCS
  goat
April 23, 2023 9:51 pm

Only the last play counts. Stay in the game! The Wheel is still spinning. The ball has not not yet nested. Nothing is set in stone…yet.

VOWG
VOWG
  goat
April 24, 2023 10:19 am

That thought has crossed my mind a number of times. Glad to see I am not alone.

TCS
TCS
  Au/Ag
April 23, 2023 9:50 pm

Do ye not know that ye are gods?

Were you not made in His Image?

How quickly we discard our heitage!

Visayas Outpost
Visayas Outpost
  Abigail Adams
April 24, 2023 2:16 am

The older I get, the more true this seems.

i forget
i forget
  Abigail Adams
April 24, 2023 11:43 am

“I’ve been to a town.”

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
  i forget
April 24, 2023 1:38 pm

😊

bigfoot
bigfoot
April 23, 2023 9:48 pm

Wow, great article and so true. It doesn’t apply to me though.

TCS
TCS
  bigfoot
April 23, 2023 9:55 pm

And proud we all are of you, my friend.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  bigfoot
April 23, 2023 10:31 pm

This is a good article from a sociologist’s point of view; but it misses the major component of these people with inflated egos/senses of self-worth, because it is a psychological one: Psychopathy.

Like George Carlin said, psychopaths like serial killers apparently think very highly of themselves. Amazing!

When you insert psychopathy into the equation it makes perfect sense why a small percentage of the population have an unquenchable desire to control others. They are the smartest kids in the room; they know what is best; we should all be like them.

You could insert the word Satan instead of psychopathy and the result would be the same.

TCS
TCS
  Captain_Obviuos
April 23, 2023 11:11 pm

Hi Cap! You make a good point. I cringe every time I see Carlin referenced. Most people don’t know how to properly digest him. He was an atheist with a sense of humor and a microphone…and a modicum of common sense. In his day, that’s all it took.

I’m with HSF on this one. You HAVE to find your own way. Take all you can use, but be certain to throw ALL out that doesn’t fit. He wouldn’t put it that way, but that is what he believes (I think)…as do I.

i forget
i forget
  TCS
April 24, 2023 11:45 am

like carlin did. found his own way.

TCS
TCS
April 23, 2023 10:05 pm

Allow me to introduce some illumination to this seemingly dark spot of human existence, courtesy of Billy Currington…

People are F’ing CRAZY!!!

I hope I die with enough money to make the rest of them crazy! I stop short of “fuck them all”.

I only want to fuck MOST OF THEM! The rest? I’d love to help ’em!

[youtube

TCS
TCS
  TCS
April 23, 2023 10:14 pm

“I’m doin’ well!”

GOD IS GREAT!

TCS
TCS
  TCS
April 23, 2023 10:16 pm

Jim. The money order goes out tomorrow…fortune willing.

Put me down for a C note.

TCS
TCS
  TCS
April 23, 2023 11:17 pm

Dammit! Now I have to go to the post office with a hangover!

Fuck me twice! (just be gentle…it’s my first time! AND it cost 100 bucks plus shipping!)

TCS
TCS
April 23, 2023 11:02 pm

Ha Ha! Daisey Luther! The BITCH who kicked me off her web site for speaking my mind.

Pardon me for saying, Admin, that this cunt isn’t fit to lick the sweat off my salty balls.

So scared of LIVING that she herds sheep into her fold to improve her own odds of “survival”.

Her ONLY actual accomplishment was in getting that Slovakian guy to spill his guts to her about his Bosnia/Herzegovina experience…and pretend it was an “exclusive”. It wasn’t. She’s a certified fuckwit.

The smoking lamp is now lit.

TCS
TCS
  TCS
April 23, 2023 11:29 pm

she took a wrong turn on the way to meet you at the corner of prosperity and integrity and ended up in the cul de sac of “Who gives a fuck”.

I can’t think of a more amicable cosmic resolution.

Karma embodied, or as Jesus said…As ye sow, so also shall ye reap.

Inshallah. That’s Muslim for “suck it!”

Goober
Goober
  TCS
April 24, 2023 3:38 am

Damn, you seem to still harbor resentment after all these years, while she likely doesn’t remember you. I wonder, can you remember what you said that got her to ban you? You seem like such a nice guy…

Visayas Outpost
Visayas Outpost
April 24, 2023 2:12 am

Very interesting observations. I would add, that access to limitless information is probably what makes people so sure they ‘know’ what they know. Yet it has been demonstrated that research on the internet is often just an exercise in finding the right echo chamber. It could easily be argued that we used to ‘know’ more decades ago when our access to info was more limited. I think of men like my grandfather, who tackled each problem in a kind of ‘lets find out’ way. I recall that in prior generations the goal of teaching was ‘how to think’ rather than indoctrination of supposed facts.

Author’s observations also fit neatly into what we have been discussing re. the rise of “AI”. Now most people won’t even need to try to think, because the AI will just tell them what they need to know. Witness the recent article about Rice becoming the next target of the green agenda after Beef. Two of the primary staple foods on the entire planet, but with the right amount of effort this will become a new belief added into the cultural memory bank.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 24, 2023 6:57 am

Ain’t that the truth.

You’re either a victim of human nature, or a student of it.

One of the best things that came out of stand-up comedy- for me- was learning if you were doing something right or something wrong instantly. You didn’t need to wait for the teacher to grade you, or for a quarterly performance review, it happened in the moment. As soon as the words came out of your mouth you got your feedback.

This is good, that sucks.

Any kind of misperception you may have about your ability or worth is measured against the crowd. The real trick was in discovering how to find a way to escape their limitations and show them your potential. And that takes years. You craft the words you know are the right ones even if they don’t and make them see the things you want them to see from your perspective instead of theirs.

A trick itz.

And of course one of the worst things to come out of it is to actually believe your own bullshit. The greatest obstacle was always ego. Expertise is only one step away from hubris.

Farming fixes that. The real test in life is not to find out the limitations of your potential or expertise, but to submit to those of the natural world, the greatest comedian of all time. The great cycles of the seasons are the set up, delivery, punchline, and call back. And if you surrender to It, then you become the audience of the only true expert in all things, God himself. And no one tells a better story.

*HSF on a new ‘puter

Ginger
Ginger
  Anonymous
April 24, 2023 7:30 am

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.”

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Ginger
April 24, 2023 7:59 am

Been going over HDT for the last week.

Synchronicity in effect.

i forget
i forget
  Anonymous
April 24, 2023 11:56 am

Of social proof mice & central bank men. Who was that painter you mentioned, who only sold one in his own lifetime? Melville is same vein example I refer to, tho he managed to do a little better than your painter.

Audience. Awed’ience. Audie Murphy, all by himself. And paid the heavy price.

Paleocon
Paleocon
April 24, 2023 7:12 am

The heart is deceitful above all things. It is exceedingly wicked. Who can know it?

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 24, 2023 7:47 am

Ignorance is bliss, until reality bites you in the ass. Reality is coming, and they will not be happy about it.

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
  Anonymous
April 24, 2023 8:27 am

Reality is a bitch, but dang if she doesn’t have the patience of a saint.

Guest
Guest
April 24, 2023 7:54 am

Interesting but ive been noticing many articles promoting’balance’ in opinions. You know- dont have strong ones.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Guest
April 24, 2023 9:40 am

It’s a trick used by people with strong opinions to convince you of theirs because they claim that theirs has the “virtue” of moderation.
In my view, compromise is just a good way to up your odds of being wrong from 50% to 90% while wording things so that you can retrospectively claim that you weren’t completely wrong.
It’s a mealy-mouthed shitweasel’s bread and butter.

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
April 24, 2023 12:27 pm

●Do you feel that the Dunning-Kruger effect is responsible for many of the loud arguments going on in society today?

Yes. I think it is a real issue.

●How can you convince someone who argues with emotions to see facts?

I plant seeds.
Ideas are seeds.
Some take years to sprout and grow.
Others sprout right away.

●Do you have any other examples of cognitive dissonance you’d like to add to this?

People who promote Jesus and bible verses, also glorifying alcohol and soft core porn.

●Bonus question:

Does it bother me?
Not really.

Once I turned that last corner of knowledge,
I realized that my job is to direct my mortal coil to do what is good for self, others and planet.

I see in the many various perspectives held here, many former incarnations of myself.
Which indicates, we are on the same path, even moving in the same direction, just not at the same location.

So…
If it took me all the steps to get here, who am I to dictate which steps will get you to your “here”?
______
PS:
My apologies for the numorous times I pulled an Emily Latella via misreading or misinterpreting an article or comment, and then spouting off.
Thank God for the edit button which helped me erase some of my worst errs.
______
Thankyou Daisy Luther for your article contribution.

Euddie
Euddie
  Euddolen ap Afallach
April 24, 2023 3:38 pm

Important add:
Upon further reflection, seeing that I have been where others are, indicates I have places to go where others have been, so the motive to continue learning remains. There is much others know, which I desire to learn.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
April 24, 2023 6:34 pm

The reason every Army that enters Afghanistan exits the way they came or in a pine box? Is Iron will, independence from centralized authorities, weak government ,a uniting religion loosely adhered to, tribal codes, and freedom as long as you mind your business. They make there own Guns, bullets, and grenades, in sweat shops . American patriots could learn alot from how they operate. Independence, and alittle lawlessness are important to keeping things free and leveled.

goat
goat
  Billy the Kid
April 24, 2023 7:53 pm

Probably a bit immature to make functional grenades (it isn’t that hard and is pretty expedient, having the right propellent on hand or skill to make said propellent, perfectly legal, might be more important), but guns and cartridge manufacture is something I have stressed over the years. Solutions. That is the key. Congrats.