“Human history seems logical in afterthought but a mystery in forethought. Writers of history have a way of describing interwar societies as coursing from postwar to prewar as though people alive at the time knew when that transition occurred.”Strauss & Howe The Fourth Turning


Watching pompous politicians, egotistical economists, arrogant investment geniuses, clueless media pundits, and self- proclaimed experts on the Great Depression predict an economic recovery and a return to normalcy would be amusing if it wasn’t so pathetic. Their lack of historical perspective does a huge disservice to the American people, as their failure to grasp the cyclical nature of history results in a broad misunderstanding of the Crisis the country is facing. The ruling class and opinion leaders are dominated by linear thinkers that believe the world progresses in a straight line. Despite all evidence of history clearly moving through cycles that repeat every eighty to one hundred years (a long human life), the present generations are always surprised by these turnings in history. I can guarantee you this country will not truly experience an economic recovery or progress for another fifteen to twenty years. If you think the last four years have been bad, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

Hope is not an option. There is too much debt, too little cash-flow, too many promises, too many lies, too little common sense, too much mass delusion, too much corruption, too little trust, too much hate, too many weapons in the hands of too many crazies, and too few visionary leaders to not create an epic worldwide implosion. Too bad. We’ve experienced horrific Crisis periods three times in the last 250 years and winter has arrived again exactly as forecasted by Strauss & Howe in 1997. The linear thinkers will continue to predict a recovery that never arrives. We have awful trials and tribulations, dreadful sacrifices of blood and treasure, and grim choices awaiting our country over the next fifteen years. Linear thinkers will scoff at such a statement as they irrationally view the world as a never ending forward progression towards a glorious future. History proves them wrong. We stand here in the year 2012 with no good options, only less worse options. Decades of foolishness, debt accumulation, and a materialistic feeding frenzy of delusion have left the world broke and out of options. And still our leaders accelerate the debt accumulation, while encouraging the masses to carry-on as if nothing has changed since 2008. Sadly, millions of lemmings want to believe they will not drown in the sea of un-payable commitments. Truth is a scarce resource on the planet today.

“Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.” –  Friedrich Nietzsche


Entire populations taking comfort in their illusions transcends centuries. This is because all humans are driven by their emotions and react to events and danger in a predictable manner depending on their stage of life. Strauss & Howe in their 1997 opus – The Fourth Turning – utilized decades of studying generational dynamics to anticipate when our next Crisis would arrive and what core elements would precipitate it:

“The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new millennium, midway through the Oh-Oh decade. Around the year 2005, a sudden spark will catalyze a Crisis mood. Remnants of the old social order will disintegrate. Political and economic trust will implode. Real hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve questions of class, race, nation and empire. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and World War II.”Strauss & Howe The Fourth Turning

The American people are mentally ensnared by their decades of indoctrination from propagandists in government and on Wall Street, spoon fed to them by the corporate mainstream media. Many are afflicted with the diseases of normalcy bias and cognitive dissonance.  Normalcy bias refers to a mental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. The American people are mentally incapable of accepting the facts of our impending economic collapse. They somehow are able to convince themselves these facts as normal:

  • We’ve increased our national debt by $5.6 trillion in the last three and a half years. It took from 1789 until 2000, two hundred and eleven years, to accumulate the first $5.6 trillion of debt.
  • Our average annual deficit from 2000 through 2008 was $190 billion. Our average annual deficits since 2008 have been $1.3 trillion. Our deficits never exceeded 4% of GDP prior to 2008, but now they exceed 9%.
  • The national debt will reach $20 trillion by 2015 and if interest rates normalized to the same level they were in 2007 (5%), annual interest expense would be $1 trillion, or 45% of current tax revenue.
  • There are 242 million working age Americans and 100 million of them are not working. But don’t concern yourself. The Federal government reports that only 13 million of these people are actually unemployed. The other 87 million are just kicking back and living off their accumulated riches.
  • The economic recovery has been so great that the 7.5 million people added to the Food Stamp rolls since the recession officially ended in December 2009 isn’t really an indication of severe stress among the 99%. Only 46.5 million Americans (15% of the population) need food stamps to survive.
  • The unfunded liabilities of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security exceed $100 trillion and cannot possibly be honored, leaving future generations to fend for themselves.


  • Our leaders have fought two undeclared wars of choice since 2001 that have resulted in 6,400 unnecessary soldier deaths, 47,500 badly wounded, $1.3 trillion of borrowed treasure, with unfunded liabilities of at least $2 trillion more, and we are itching for more of the same with our coming war with Iran. A bankrupt empire still trying to police the world is the ultimate act of hubris.
  • After causing a worldwide financial collapse in 2008 with their extreme risk taking, tangibly fraudulent mortgage schemes, and reckless pillaging of their clients and the American people, Wall Street used their complete systematic capture of our political and economic system to shift $8 trillion of toxic debt from their books onto the backs of American taxpayers. They have since become even more flagrant in their disregard for human decency by using the hundreds of billions in free money funneled to them by Ben Bernanke to take even bigger risks and pay themselves grander bonuses. Total unregulated derivatives (real WMD) outstanding now exceed $700 trillion.
  • Since 2001 the Federal government has used fear to assume unprecedented and unconstitutional powers over the citizens of this country. They can now use surveillance to monitor your phones calls, emails, and websites visited, without warrants. You can be imprisoned without charges for as long as the government decides you are a threat. TSA agents molest little old ladies and children trying to fly on airplanes. The President can take over the entire economy through presidential decree. Predator spy drones can eliminate suspected terrorists whenever a general gives the command. An order for 30,000 spy drones to be flying over U.S. cities should make you feel safe. The $2 billion NSA Utah Data Gathering Center (code name Stellar Wind) will be able to intercept and store every electronic signal on the planet by 2013. Sacrificing liberty for perceived safety and security isn’t working out too well for the American people.

Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skill would conclude our current situation is far from normal. We’ve become a cognitive dissonant nation. We convince ourselves the best way to solve a debt problem is to create more debt. We believe we are made safer by attacking foreign countries. We have convinced ourselves it makes sense for Too Big to Fail Wall Street banks that create systematic financial risk to get even bigger, after their fraudulent frenzy of greed virtually crashed our economic system. We actually believe the two party political system offers us a choice, when both parties genuflect to Wall Street, gratify corporate special interests, fight never ending wars, and spend money they don’t have.  We choose to believe government statistics that claim inflation is running at 3%, when our everyday reality attests it to be 10%. We trust the Federal Reserve to maintain price stability even though their policies have resulted in a 97% depreciation in the U.S. dollar since 1913. We believe the future will be bright, even though 60% of workers have less than $25,000 in total savings.

In the ultimate example of cognitive dissonance the majority of Americans scorned and ridiculed the young people being beaten, maced and arrested for protesting the rampant criminality of the Wall Street 1%ers while supporting a billionaire banker bailout, 0% interest rates that punish senior citizens and savers while encouraging further debt accumulation, and not be outraged that not one criminal banker has gone to jail. They somehow are able to observe the data in the table below and still believe that America offers equal opportunity to everyone.

Americans have thus far been unable to deal with the reality of our desperate circumstances. They remind me of people who see the ocean recede from the shoreline and curiously venture out where the sea had flowed to pick up trinkets and pretty shells with no sense of what is truly happening. The deadly 20 foot high tsunami headed their way will be a complete shock when they are swept away in a torrent of bad debt and worthless currencies.  We are about to enter phase two of this Fourth Turning Crisis still in denial and terribly unprepared for the frightful trials that await our nation. It’s not as if it hasn’t happened before, just like clockwork. William Strauss and Neil Howe were able to document turnings in Anglo-American history dating back to the 15th century. The life cycles of human beings and the moods of generations at different stages of their lives are consistent across time, resulting in predictable responses to events during a particular time frame. Fourth Turnings are a time of Crisis, danger and vulnerability. The Crisis periods in modern history are as follows:

  • War of the Roses (1459 – 1487), Late Medieval Saeculum
  • Armada Crisis (1569 – 1594), Reformation Saeculum
  • Glorious Revolution (1675 – 1704), New World Saeculum
  • American Revolution (1773 – 1794), Revolutionary Saeculum
  • Civil War (1860 – 1865), Civil War Saeculum
  • Great Depression & World War II (1929 – 1946), Great Power Saeculum
  • Millenial Crisis (2008 – ????), Millenial Saeculum

Using a seasonal analogy, the Crisis is the wintry bitter dark era, where deadly blizzards rage and the citizens are pushed to the brink. In retrospect the three previous American Crisis periods seem easy to predict, but one year prior to their onset NO ONE could have predicted the epic sacrifices and horrific casualties of war to follow. In 1772 there were few people expecting America to declare independence and fight an eight year war for independence. In 1859 virtually no one expected the election of Abraham Lincoln as president and an ensuing war that would kill 700,000 American men. In 1928 no one imagined the stock market losing 89% of its value, an eleven year depression, and a world war resulting in over 60 million deaths. History is only logical in afterthought. The mystery of forethought is where we find ourselves today.

In a recent article, Neil Howe provided insight into why he believes the current Fourth Turning began in 2008, sixty-two years since the end of the Depression/WWII Crisis, which was sixty-four years after the Civil War Crisis, which was sixty-six years after the American Revolution Crisis:

“I believe the catalyst occurred in 2008. The year 2008 marked the onset of the most serious U.S. economic crisis since the Great Depression. It also marked the election of Barack Obama, which could yet turn out to be a pivotal realignment date in U.S. political history. In fact, if I had to give the catalyst a month, I would say September of 2008. The global Dow was in free fall. Banks were failing. Money markets froze shut. Business owners held their breath.” – Neil Howe – Dating the Fourth Turning

Howe uses the term catalyst to describe the trigger or event that initiates the Crisis. Strauss and Howe determined that a Crisis progresses through four stages during its life cycle, as described below:  

  • A Crisis era begins with a catalyst – a startling event (or sequence of events) that produces a sudden shift in mood.
  • Once catalyzed, a society achieves a regeneracy – a new counter-entropy that reunifies and reenergizes civic life.
  • The regenerated society propels toward a climax – a crucial moment that confirms the death of the old order and birth of the new.
  • The climax culminates in a resolution – a triumphant or tragic conclusion that separates the winners from losers, resolves the big public questions, and establishes the new order.

We have countless valleys to cross and mountains to ascend before reaching our ultimate destination. There are no guarantees the outcomes will be positive or that the nation as we know it will even exist. It is certain that in twenty years the social order of this country will not resemble what exists today. The transformation could be positive or negative, depending upon whether we make the right choices during this Crisis.


“The nation could be ruined, its democracy destroyed, and millions of people scattered or killed. Or America could enter a new golden age, triumphantly applying shared values to improve the human condition. The rhythms of history do not reveal the outcome of the coming Crisis; all they suggest is the timing and dimension.”  Strauss & Howe The Fourth Turning




  1. “Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.” – Friedrich Nietzsche

    I tell my family, I talk to my friends. They live an illusion.

    Looking forward to the next two parts and will be forwarding them on.


  2. There is so much wrong, it is hard to know where to start. For me, it is the fact that they – the government – simply cannot own up to the fact that all of the services/welfaqre state being provided is unsustainable. The arguments in the Supreme Court the other day revolved ultimately around that we HAVE to provide medical services to everyone, so we have a right to force them into insurance. No one had the guts to say that in reality we do not HAVE to do any such thing – that is the fucking lie that even the courts are ignoring..

    People HAVE to provide for themselves. Until that understanding is reached, we are headed down the toilet. If people have to provide for themselves, they will.

    Thanks, Admin. Well done. Look forward to the next parts.

  3. Llpoh said, “The arguments in the Supreme Court the other day revolved ultimately around that we HAVE to provide medical services to everyone, so we have a right to force them into insurance. No one had the guts to say that in reality we do not HAVE to do any such thing – that is the fucking lie that even the courts are ignoring.. ”

    The Supremes haven’t spoken yet. They will shortly. And I can almost guarantee they will agree with what you said. Legal sea change is on the way.

  4. SSS – please let that be true. I was flabbergasted that the llie was unchallenged. It was just put out there, and no one had the guts to say it is a damn lie (Scalia I think, reading the arguments, almost said it).

  5. Great stuff. We’ve been on a drunken binge since the early ’80s. Instead of booze, it’s been debt and spending. It’s been as irrational as a drunken binge, and it always ends the same way–in the gutter or dead. But Obama has added an element of crack to the mess, increasing debt and spending exponentially. The perfect man to finish off our nation. Couldn’t have been scripted better in Hollywood. The anit-christ for a biblical collapse.

    The only thing that has held this “mufti-cultural” nation together, from not killing ourselves off along racial lines, has been our standard of living. Once that goes away, which it is now for millions and millions of “middle class” people, it’s going to get violent. You can feel the tension in the air already.

    People are glued to their T.V., their icrap, their tablets and computers, denying what is coming, not believing what is before their eyes. $15.4 trillion in debt is going to benefit us somehow. The people taking money off the government, from the poor white trash to the criminals on Wall Street. A massive drunken binge. I can honestly say that I’m prepared, thanks to TBP and the other sites that disseminate the truth every day, and for that I say thanks. Otherwise, I’d be a victim to what is coming. I am prepared, as best as I can be, so thanks again.

  6. lipoh:

    That’s the crux of the problem with this country. Everything is a right and entitlement, screw the cost and screw having to earn what you get. A legal sea-change. Don’t hold your breath, the fucking lawyers and judges have removed the inconvenient and non-profitable “law” from every day life. You only get as much justice as you can buy. Everyone has a right to health care. Nobody can pay for it, but they are entitled. Bullshit.

  7. Back of the napkin math. This is probably all f’d up so take it for what its worth, nothing.

    47 million people on food stamps who qualify for Medicaid
    77 million boomers on Medicare ( over next few years ) many still working with insurance at this time
    50 million working poor with no health insurance and make to much to qualify for Medicaid

    224 million either with no insurance or on goverment program.
    Out of 300 million that leaves about 76 million with private insurance.

    About 1/3 with private insurance seems about right to me I work with this stuff everyday. So here’s the deal how do we turn 2/3 of the popuation away from the emergency room. If an animal gets a broken leg that cannot be fixed they get a bullet.
    Any ideas……………….

  8. Each civilization is born in some inexplicable fashion and, after
    a slow start, enters a period of vigorous expansion, increasing its
    size and power, both internally and at the expense of its neighbors,
    until gradually a crisis of organization appears… It becomes
    stabilized and eventually stagnant. After a Golden Age of peace and
    prosperity, internal crises again arise. At this point, there appears
    for the first time, a moral and physical weakness.

    The passage from the Age of Expansion to the Age of Conflict is
    the most complex, most interesting and most critical of all periods of
    the life cycle of a civilization. It is marked by four chief
    characteristics: it is a period:
    a) of declining rate of expansion;
    b) of growing tensions and class conflicts;
    c) of increasingly frequent and violent imperialist wars;
    d) of growing irrationality.

    ~Tragedy and Hope by Caroll Quigley

  9. Lemme see, 40 million of food stamps that subsidize agriculture and retail food outlets.
    77 million on Medicare that subsidizes big pharma and the medical field
    Billions in subsidies to big oil.
    Trillions in bailouts to investment banks

    Why, its just not fair that big insurance, except AIG, isnt getting subsidized!

    /sarcasm on

  10. I’m now 71 years old and have been reading about the shit hitting the fan for a few years now. Can we get the fucking ball rolling before I’m drooling and can’t enjoy it?

  11. I agree with you.But your only telling this to the choir.
    My life changed quite a bit since 08.It took awhile to get back on my feet.I laugh when i hear that we may be in a recession? I think it really hasnt changed much since 08.The government has pumped money into the banks and the stock market.Its all smoke and mirrors.Dept.
    Funny when i go to other mainstream sites,how all the people talk about how things are getting better and how great Obama is.
    I give Obama credit for his bribes,keep the public fat, fed and happy.Free stuff for everyone!(visions of romans throwing bread to the crowds)

  12. When I was young I was fascinated by the Roman Empire. I read Gibbon. I studied Roman engineering and architecture. I contemplated the early “dark ages” when scholars such as Boethius and Cassiodorus scavenged through abandoned libraries trying to save what they could. I never imagined that in my lifetime I would see with my own eyes the slow death of a once great civilization. Now I am equally fascinated and horror-stricken at the cognitive dissonance of most of the population as the organs of our society begin to shut down, one by one.

  13. My dad use to call it a powder keg, that was in 1998, a hell of a lot has changed since than.
    The likes of people who killed Christ are our leaders today they don’t want change. That Limo
    might not pick me up any more. What a interesting time to be alive the next 10 years will
    be dam exciting.

  14. @Josey Wales
    There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men.

  15. Photo of the real Chief Ten Bears. I’m getting off topic here and apologize. Back to our regularly scheduled programming.


  16. Admin

    In your Gary Larson cartoon of lemmings jumping into the sea in the article, there’s one with a life preserver. That’s the TBP member.

  17. The real Ten Bears looks a lot like my dad did. My dad wasn’t so dark, but the facial features are quite similar. Me – I look a lot more like Yogi Bear.


    or Yogi Berra:


    My wife can’t quite make up her mind which.

  18. Admin-Nice. Looking forward to parts 2 & 3. Also re-reading 4T-amazing how much sense it makes, especially on second read. How my folks (very late Silents) relate to the world, the GIs, etc. Incidentally, my mother is now a museum docent (see page 219)-downright creepy how prescient these guys were, at least to my experience.

  19. Very good piece Jim, it’s crisp writing like this that keeps me coming back to your site.

    A few minutes ago I bumped into this paragraph, much in line with your theme here,

    “Within its borders, America once provided an example to the world of what free markets and sound money can provide. But as Goyette painstaking points out, those days are over. Today’s America is but an aging bankrupt empire. Not so different than the last days of Rome. Its armies spread thin throughout the world. Its treasure wasted long ago, government finances are in shambles, and it can only pay its promises with money it creates from nowhere.”

  20. At least we still have Dear Leader, Barack Hussein Obama to lead and guide us. Whether you like him or not, you must admit that he has kept this grand old ship afloat! He has worked tirelessly night and day since he was given this burden to save us and he has just about done it.

    The Leader is about halfway through his task of saving us. He need 4 more years! Hope and change takes 8 years. I urge you guys to support our Leader with your thoughts and prayers and hard work and your votes and your money. Support him as he has supported us! Don’t lose faith in him now!

  21. “There are no guarantees the outcomes will be positive or that the nation as we know it will even exist. It is certain that in twenty years the social order of this country will not resemble what exists today. The transformation could be positive or negative, depending upon whether we make the right choices during this Crisis.”

    Excellent article , Jim.
    I’ll take the negative at ten to one…to much bad joojoo in need of economical ,physical and spiritual cleansing to think otherwise.

  22. Nice work, Admin, as usual. Zara, your thoughts are mine, even to the naming of Boethius as one of the ones to stand amidst the ruins and look for things to be saved for a distant future when civic life might be renewed. As a child, I recall my Battle of the Bulge vet 6th grade teacher telling us (when not berating us for being underachievers destined for low-end factory jobs) that there were some books that every educated person should read. Gibbon’s ‘Decline and Fall’ was one of them. I read it, Zara, and the same period – the onset of the Dark Ages – fascinated me, and I even identified with Stilchio, the half-Hun general whose murder by a jealous Emperor preceded the sacking of Rome by Alaric. Half-Hun, Stilchio had a foot planed in both worlds. So do we, whether we choose to recognize it or not. May we all live long enough to see what Stilchio didn’t – the dawn of a new and better era than the old, jaded and decadent one passing away before our eyes.

  23. “Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.” – Friedrich Nietzsche

    The psychological term for this is Normalacy Bias and amerikans suffer the most from Normalacy Bias.
    Said differently – It can’t happen here; it can’t happen to me, it’s never happened so it never will.
    Yeah sure you just keep right on believing that.

  24. llpoh wrote:
    The arguments in the Supreme Court the other day revolved ultimately around that we HAVE to provide medical services to everyone, so we have a right to force them into insurance. No one had the guts to say that in reality we do not HAVE to do any such thing.
    Part of the problem IS the insurance coverage. If a service is paid for through insurance, the cost of that service will continue to rise.
    It will stop rising only after it costs more than the market can bear, even with insurance coverage at say, 80%.
    We have reached our limit when the cost of insurance itself is too high.
    Can you imagine not being able to afford car insurance, but you can afford the car!

    We have to first look at catastrophic coverage, for insurance is best suited to pay the big, intermittent claims.
    A $50,000 deductible lowers the traditional premium by about 80%.
    It makes insurance, insurance, a policy on which you hope never to collect, is dirt cheap, and pays out big-time if you do collect.
    Then, we need to figure out various ways to cover this $50,000 gap.
    I and 3 of my partners are working with Milliman, an actuarial firm, on this very project.
    We should get numbers in the next week or two, which , hopefully, we can tweak to help cover the gap, over time.
    Don Levit

  25. Triple entry public ledger accounting systems are the biggest game changer for our species since the dawn of agriculture. Of course you must realize I’m talking about Bitcoin. The unstoppable crypto currency that will kill all central banks dead and bury the idea of nationalism. All you have to do is start using it. Nobody is going to make you do that, but beware your choice not to, to stick with only Gold+Silver+Barter items will make you a target for bandits. Know that no bandit can take your encrypted Bitcoin keys from you. This is but one paradigm redefining aspect of triple-entry crypto money systems.

  26. of course it will be decided that people must take care of themselves and implemented when the bloodsuckers have bled the savings of everyone with their bogus rip offs including zero interesr rate policys………………………see Japan

  27. “A man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry … for tomorrow we die.:
    —— Ecclesiastes 8:15 and Luke 12:19-20

    Fabulous State of The Union post. Quinn2012!!

    But, I don’t care anymore.

    Have you ever had that dream where you are just falling? That’s how I sometimes feel when I am awake; falling, falling, falling. I am falling and everything is falling apart. And there really isn’t a damn thing I can do about it.

    Yeah, I can vote for RP, but will it really make a difference? Yeah, I can support movements like OWS, but will it really make a difference? Yeah, I can write my congressman, but will it really make a difference? Yeah, I can burn all my credit cards, but will it really make a difference? And, so on.

    I am convinced the answer is an emphatic “No!”. That doesn’t mean I’ll stop doing these type of things. I’ll continue the good fight. I like the lifestyle. It’s made me a better person. But it won’t matter in the long run. There aren’t enough people like me (and YOU … TBP type people) to stem the bleeding, the corruption, the decay, the injustices. I’m with DaveL. I just wish the motherfucker would crash and burn already.

    Meanwhile, I’m taking the Ecclesiastes Road in the quote above. I’m no longer letting all this shit bother me. Not. One. Bit. Whatever will be, will be. Que Sere. Worry and stress WILL bring sickness, disease, and often, death. I want none of that.

    “Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?”
    —- Luke 12:25

    “So don’t worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring its own worries. Today’s trouble is enough for today.”
    — Matthew 6:34

    The world tries desperately to steal my joy. Screw them. I won’t let them. It’s not like I don’t give a shit about all this crap … I do … but, I don’t REALLY give a shit. Lol Joy is out there. Finding more of it is my goal. I might be changing my avatar to Alfred E. Newman, that great philosopher who said, “What. Me worry?”


  28. have private insurance and if i had not fled a few years back while being wheeled into surgury in a stupor on drugs for a one of many seeingly scheduled by need for me, i would be bankrupt with a pending needed surgury on its way….instead i feel fine…. instead going broke with zero interest rates… exercising hours a day, hopefully making myself employable and cut the prescriptions destroying organs and seemingly making fortunes for the medical industrial complex………..thinking tho, that poverty and nature may do me in….from fear of dependancy on the good will of government or anything else…

  29. This is a great article..! Submit it over at zerohedge…! I will repost it to my facebook crowd tomorrow.

    Many writers have tried to catch the essence of the problem that is at hand… But your view of historical thinking, cognitive dissonance, reality check and the next 20 years is spot on. As I say from time to time and feel free to use this cuz I didn’t make it up…… ” No government in the history of the world ever fed it’s population when confronted with real crisis”

    They withdraw, take acceptable losses (civilian and whatnot) and preserve their ability to “fight another day”… this time the damage to the average man will be epic…


  30. Survival Chic (Barb)

    I enjoyed your post a lot. You sound like you really have it together. Do you live near Illinois? Maybe we can get together sometime. You know, to talk politics.

    BTW, I am a doctor. Proctologist.

  31. History repeats, but old habits die hard. It will take some pretty awfull events to awaken the general public to whatever is to come. Preparedness is essential in order to provide options. When there are no options, reality will be pretty bleak, and who knows how the general popolation will deal with it.

  32. AWD is a very accomplished ass doctor. We should know, he shoves every picture and insult he can past us.

  33. Events are moving faster than most of us can imagine. What some of us prepared for years ago now appear to be woefully inadequate. Getting out of debt, becoming more self sufficient, storing some extra food, even buying some precious metals is not going to guarantee anything. I started thinking about hard times several decades ago, then is was “what can I do to preserve my way of life and prepare my family against the possibility of hard times”. The last three years it has become apparent that this is going to be more serious. Our lives have become too complex, society is now too divided, the debt too great, and production and distribution dependent on the established order. The more powerful and complex the society, the more the total misery. In the past there were places in the world that had never heard of the Greek or Roman empires. The Great Depression and the two World Wars effected magnitudes more societies.

    It seems like in every turning, the same cast of characters and events are at the base of it. I think most causes are due to basic human nature, greed and ignorance. That will probably never change. But I do hope that in this informational age there will not be the dark holes where the perpetrator’s can hide, those types that always seem to be there to pick up the pieces. This has to be a “take names and kick ass time”. God forbid that we suffer through this coming ordeal only to end up with a New World Order as a solution.

    The Fourth Turning has convinced me that collapse is a repeating event. And it also shows that causes and major actors in the dark drama are much the same.
    When empires collapse there is hell to pay.

    1. I’m endorsing Rick Williams for Senate in California. I’m sure this was the key endorsement he was looking for by linking to my article.

  34. “The Supreme Court on Monday ruled by a 5-to-4 vote that officials may strip-search people arrested for any offense, however minor, before admitting them to jails even if the officials have no reason to suspect the presence of contraband….” read it yourselves, and please keep your contraband properly tucked while doing so. You don’t wanna send any signals that could be construed as ‘probable cause’ do you?

  35. Survival Chic:
    Your prayer was answered. The posting on Zero Hedge has garnered over 9 pages of comments – by far the most I have ever seen!
    Don Levit

  36. re: michaelj007’s post… one more step in the process, intended to make everyone immune to what’s going on around them. And, as laws increasingly make it illegal to do anything, prepare for each and every one of us to be subjected to oppressive government powers.

    Strip searched for riding a bike without a working bell? For not walking your dog on a leash? For driving without a license?

    Unbelievable. Except that it is.

  37. Nice article. I’m looking forward to parts 2 and 3.

    Although I understand your usage, I don’t feel inclined to perpetuate the lemming myth so just thought I’d mention that Disney admitted murdering the lemmings.

  38. Admin: Great, great great piece. Unravelling to crisis… I’m starting to see the shifts. We have NOT seen anything yet and will NOT like the responses to any issue…

    You know the chapter on preparing for the 4th Turning? Towards the end where S&H list things that will soften the pain of transformation?

    Our society has done little if any of them.

    It’s going to suck for years to come, undoubtedly.

    I await the rest of the parts…. especially your take on Regeneracy…. because if things keep going down this path, what’s going to rise from the proverbial rubble will be sinister, powerfull and unstopable in its newfound arena of activity.

    Doom may be preferable…. but don’t count on it.

    1. Colma

      We are on the same wavelength. I had just listed 11 suggestions made by S&H in the preparations chapter in part 3 of the article. We went 0 for 11.

  39. Pirate Jo: Did you read the G of T books, see the series or both?

    I plowed through them all in six weeks…


  40. I think it’s all crap. We had numerous financial crises in our history. The only reason we had a Great Depression is because of the harm that FDR did to the economy. His policies made the Great Depression worse and longer lasting.

    We also had a war of independence. A lot of countries have that. Nothing special.

  41. Colma,

    I zoomed through them in about the same amount of time – really enjoyed them! Sounds like it’s going to be a bit of a wait for #6 though.

    If Ron Paul decides not to run in 2012, I might write in Khal Drogo.

  42. The only reason we had a Great Depression is because of the harm that FDR did to the economy. -lingsun

    Okay, you made the claim. Now provide the data to back it up.

  43. Let me help you a bit Ling Sung

    Herbert Clark Hoover (August 10, 1874 – October 20, 1964) was the 31st President of the United States (1929–33) -wiki

    Now the great depression began in what year?

    In the 21st century, the Great Depression is commonly used as an example of how far the world’s economy can decline.[2] The depression originated in the U.S., starting with the fall in stock prices that began around September 4, 1929 -wiki

    So how, Sun Ling, did FDR cause the great depression when he wasnt yet in office?

  44. RE: Admin, about the Lauren Lyster RT America vid:

    Specifically listen to 1m:55s-2m:55s
    (you’re in there)

    I am a late GenX (born 79). Voted Al Gore in Wisc in ’00. I was an Obama volunteer in LA, Cali in 2008. I guess I was kinda into “blogging” back then, I was reading dailykos on a daily basis back then.

    Somehow back in ’08 I stumbled into, started featuring some of these “Austrian Economic” viewpoints. Without even knowing what a “doomer” was, I was convinced the US Dollar would collapse by the spring of 09.

    I can credit TBP a fair amount for opening my eyes, but I have to give a ton of credit to Lauren @ Capital Account. Been a religious follower of Capital Account for perhaps 6 months now? Between the two I have found my way to Ron Paul. While Capital Account is Economic slanted, and not Political, she gives RP a fair shake (as does most of the non-MSM).

    Cant wait! Cant sleep! 4h from now and I can vote for Ron Paul in the Wisconsin primary! (Thinking about showing up early and being a “poll observer”)

  45. Very interesting times. I have seen the country go from the greatest generation to the worst generation. People seem to be on the go all the time and not just staying home to chill while the fuel
    prices continue to spike. Ya think if the masses just stayed home instead of going all the time the fuel prices might just drop. Everything is about the money! Everything is about me me me and not their neighbor! We live in the land of the fee not free.
    I hate to tell you all, that we will soon see the start of WW3, to further the destruction of this nation by the usurpers. Why not? The water is contaminated even in the highest mountain streams. The soil has long lost any nutrients. The oceans are dead in thousands of sq. miles all over the planet. The Pacific Ocean is polluted with radiation as well as most of the fish that live in it. North America is polluted with radiation from Japan as well as most of Europe. Most every person or animal that breathes air is contaminated with radiation. There is no cure for one small particle of radiation that can enter the body through breathing or the food you eat. Everyone and everything on the planet is contaminated. Think anyone in the U.S. military is getting the treatment they deserve. Check out what depleted uranium does when used as an explosive. It is all over the Middle East. Do you wonder what Gulf War syndrome is (yah, breathing depleted uranium in the form of dust particles from explosive DU. Check it all out for yourselves. I encourage you!

    Most of us see change taking place and that is true. It is not if but when things will get worse. Yes worse!

    Some of you may beleive it and some will not. Those of you who do not beleive or are in denial will suffer the most. It does matter to me what you beleive as I do not want any to suffer. How many of you had a belief in something and found later that that belief was not true. Think about it. How do you know you are right in a belief? Think about that. Can you quantify your belief? Think and see!

    Did you know that thousands of years ago it was written or prophesied that the people born or living when Israel became a nation again(1948) (dispersed in 70 AD) that that generation would not pass (die) before the Lord Jesus came for his people ( He does not mean that no one would die during this time but a majority would not die). Did you know that Jesus said that in the last days that the Love for self would increase and that love for his neighbor (any human being) would decrease. (You see this daily if you have eyes) Did you know that Jesus said that in the last days that there would be an increase of natural disasters. (Tornadoes have increased as well as earthquakes since the early 1990s). Did you know that in the last days Jesus spoke of incurable disease and famines around the planet? Did you know that Jesus spoke of wars and rumours of war in the last days?

    We are entering an age of tremendous change. Where will you spend eternity? Eternity means forever! As Robert Duval said in one of his westerns. “We live between the eternities”. Well, eternity
    is almost here! There are not years to wait to see who is right or wrong here, there is just the present
    and maybe the present of tomorrow or the next day etc. However, I see WW3 around the corner once the U.S. attacks Iran. Russia and China have both stated that they would be allies in the 3rd
    world war. Both Russia and China have interests in Iran. Both have told the U.S. to back off Iran.

    World War is inevitable! Look for it when this countries economy collapses or soon after. Probably to take peoples mind off the collapsed economy. As the Roman Empire collapsed so goes the United States….only in a shorter period of time. If you are still with me BEWARE THE MARK OF THE BEAST! I beleive most people that are saved by GOD will be gone by that time (Before WW3 begins) However, those that have knowledge of the Word of God and are not saved will have a second chance by GODS love,grace and mercy. God will save all those that have NOT taken the mark of the beast in their hand or forehead which will be put upon all who would want to buy or sell anything! There is just one more thing you must do to be saved… That is to believe that Jesus is the Son of the living God!
    I wish you all the best for you and your families in these trying times. Be strong, be prepared and protect your families and friends as Jesus said. May God bless you all and open your eyes and ears to his truth.

    Oh! Almost forgot, if you do not believe the above, google the Bible that is a searchable version
    and search what I have written. I encourage you to do so as it is simple.

  46. “ingsun says:

    I think it’s all crap. We had numerous financial crises in our history. The only reason we had a Great Depression is because of the harm that FDR did to the economy. His policies made the Great Depression worse and longer lasting.”

    Ah ingasun, you’re a blast from the past. I spent many years of my life listening to my grandmother (b. 1892) and my two great aunts whinging about the dastardly evils of the devil FDR, right up into the 1970’s. They never stopped. Time was on hiatus for them, 1933 continued on for another forty+ years.

    I had forgotten those rantings till you reminded me. Great ladies they were, from another age and era. I loved them dearly and no one hated FDR more than they did

    Thanks for the memories.


  47. “… thousands of years ago it was written or prophesied that the people born or living when Israel became a nation again(1948) that that generation would not pass before the Lord Jesus came for his people ” —– Bill

    “World War is inevitable! ” —— Bill

    OK, fine. Whatever floats your boat.

    But you are “just Bob”. How much damage coould you do? But the GOP is chock full of people who believe this same twisted crap, Bachman and Santorum, just to name two. And we think Imadinneracket is a nutob??? HaHa! At least he doesn’t have 10,000 nukes to carry out this self-fulfilling “prohecy”. America, please don’t elect a religious Looney Tune! (But, I know you will.)

  48. I agree with DaveL except that I’m 72 and been waiting for a long time and my time is getting short, I hope the SHsTF soon, my popcorn is getting stale.

  49. Correct, you haven’t seen anything yet, that is why your assumption of the cyclic timeline to recover from this is incorrect. It is now obvious the advent of the internet has linked billions of humans in a way never before imagined. With that dynamic operating to increase awareness of our miserable condition, the good news is that it will vastly shorten the time to correct it.

    Example; Google this;


    Or go the the following link;

    Apply the solution now and you will destroy the cyclic model you predict.

    And yes, you haven’t seen anything yet, unless you’ve seen this.

    1. Paul

      You are ignorant about history. You don’t think there was vast progress from the Revolutionary Crisis to the Civil War Crisis to the Depression Crisis?

      Oil wasn’t discovered and put into use until after the Civil War crisis. You actually think the internet is more dynamic than the discovery of oil?

      Linear thinkers abound on this planet. You will be sorely disappointed.

  50. Where is the inference made that the dynamic of the internet surpasses the discovery oil?

    What is stated is that the dynamic of the internet and the collective impact of that medium will defeat your prediction regardless of any historic modeling. The example given is a causal action when acted upon by an an awakened nation and will demonstrate the never before power of the internet that will in fact, define the century.

    To watch for your cycle to spin, assumes that there is nothing to do about the condition but read what happened yesterday and wait.

  51. Paul

    Humans do not change. Putting your faith in some technological dynamic is foolish.

    Your ignorance of generational theory is staggering. It isn’t surprising, as most people think history is linear. People who call themselves progressives will be very disappointed with the next 15 years.

    An awakened nation is hysterical. Have you seen these people?

    By the way, your internet doesn’t function without oil.

  52. “Human don’t change” – try reading some anthropology, it may help.

    As far as oil, as applied in other technologies, it works well, but not in the area I referenced it. By implying my contempt for the tyranny of the petro/dollar scam somehow negates its role in other uses is incorrect.

    And finally;

    “An awaken nation is hysterical”

    What would you have, more of the same?

    1. Paul

      You seem a little hot under the collar. Again, you show your true ignorance by actually thinking I meant humans physically changing. Humans are driven by the same emotions that they were driven by in 1776 – greed, anger, delusion, love, compassion, hope, etc.

      I suggest you do some reading about mass delusions in history.

      I try to awaken as many people as I can. The nation is still asleep. They have chosen ignorance as preferable to knowledge. They are using your internet to surf for porn and find out who got kicked off American Idol last night.

  53. Your country is screwed, U.S.A, your so called american dream is screwed, which there never really was one, years of , or, should i say, decades of american propoganda bullshit is being shown to the good folks who are finalle opening their eyes to the mass lies that have been perpetrated on them. i hope the good people of the states wake up and start their little gardens and learn to live naturally, because i am afraid it is going to get ugly, good luck!!

  54. In all of your last 3 comments, you have used the word ” ignorance ” to define ones opposing opinion, By that tactic itself, I will measure my final comment to you as this; learn how to conduct a discussion without using a descriptive bias that reveals your obvious intellectual weakness, It shows up every time you make a statement.

    1. Paul

      I simply describe what I see. I also notice you never respond to my specific points. It reveals your intellectual deficit.

  55. Paul:

    Technological progress has only this effect: It allows for a far more deadly turning.

    The internet is a tool. Like printing presse were…. there still remains a imperfect wielder…. humankind… Who forgets history’s lessons.

  56. Really good stuff. Thanks for making the effort to layout the permanent harm that is being done! People are going to have to take more direct action. The level of conspiracy shocks me as I am a die hard capitalist and free market tier…problem is the guys running the show are the farthest from those principals. They are rigged system and monopoly of the financial system. It is a shame what is going to happen over the next decade…we will be lucky not to have armed revolt.

  57. prob not admin!!, we are just not so concerned with world domination, but, funny how things go, our government has suck holed to the american government, i.e, mulroney and the likes for decades,, and the tables are slowly but, surely turning, we have all the water, which i see will be the next war of the future, all the oil, dirty or not, and natural resources the world wants, Canada, although, i will stress this, my gripe is not with the hard working people of the states, it is your government, and i fear that your form of government is becoming our form of government, Fuck what the people think!!

    1. Rick

      Once we run out of Saudi oil we’ll turn our sites on Canada. Dangerous Canadian terrorists will sneak into the country and start sabotaging the way we pronounce our Ohs. This will be enough reason for us to invade and take your tar sands.

  58. by the way admin i like the piece, history from now on should be called the future, because it is a precursor to what will happen, never taught the masses anything, good luck to us all.

  59. Good article with good points – I still believe history is linear per the JudeoChristian Worldview. I would argue that we are on the precipice of the judgement of man.

  60. Damn, I don’t wanna bitch and be a thumb whore … but … I discuss my own preference to seek joy rather than get depressed about all this shit …. and I get 5 thumbs down. Wowee. Tough Crowd.

  61. Rick

    If I were Canadian I probably would hate America. Not kidding. Or, at least fear us. Jim makes a joke about invading Canada for your oil. But, is it really a joke? Judging from our history — going back to when we killed our first Injun right up to the latest mooslim — is there ANY doubt that when the SHTF and we’re running out of, well, everything, that we won’t forcibly take your resources? I don’t think so.

  62. Awww … alright. I was just kinda pissed that I didn’t get to make post #100. That’s important to me for some reason. But I was too busy posting a joke about aliens, gas pumps, and penises.

  63. I find it quite laughable that people look back at the Great Depression and the mistakes made and somehow think those in charge now are so much smarter.

    I find it disgusting that so many people are looking to the Federal Government to save them in their pitiful lives. GET A LIFE.


  64. “WIKISPOOKS.COM 9/11”
    …leeches on the body and soul of America…satan’s curse on humanity. Now is the time.

  65. I’ve been researching world history and economic history for a half century.
    Most of your facts are OK, but the real cycle to watch is the 1500-1700 cultural cycle.
    There have been two previously, the first began around 1200 B.C. and lasted about 500 years, while the second began around 400 A.D. and lasted until the sixteenth century. We are now about a century into the third. Question: why did the second one last so long. Religious extremism and an anti-intellectual point of view were so ingrained in the life of that time that there was no way for a real reformation to take place. Part of this can be attributed to the Black Death which so diminished the labor pool that it became impossible to victimize working people the way the rulers had done. We now have that religious fanaticism now trying to gain political power so that they can destroy the intellectual underpinnings of our society upon which our whole way of life depends. They hate science, because they consider it at odds with their religion.
    The characteristics of a middle age period are a collapse of all governments down to the local level, unusually large immigration patterns which either precede or accompany the governmental collapses, loss of technology, loss of literacy, general impoverishment of ordinary people down to the subsistence level with usual enslavement of most of the population, and many gratuitous wars which accomplish nothing except to further impoverish te nations fighting those wars.
    Now look at the past century. The empires of Spain, The Ottomans, Austria, Germany (twice), Japan, France, Portugal, Belgium, Britain and the Soviets. The only empires left are the U.S., India, and China. Every nation in the world is now basing their currency on the U.S. dollar which is now being inflated into oblivion, so that when the dollar collapses, it will take with it every currency in the world. When the world economy goes there will be general collapse, because the economy is the backbone of any society.
    Right now there is nothing you can do except prepare for it. Acquire gold and silver coins which are real money, try to grow as much of your food as possible or at least buy locally, get rid of your debt so that you are less vulnerable when the defecation does contact the air conditioner. If you judiciously acquire your gold and silver coins now while they are still relatively cheap, you will have a definite advantage.
    The electric grid is the most vulnerable, because much of it dates back to the depression, and I have been seeing more power outages due to old and outdated equipment.
    By the way, after the collapse of Rome, it was followed by Persia, The Gupta Empire of India, China and the Arab World, which were a cultural leader for several centuries. China has only begun to emerge during the post-Mao years, and the Arab countries are just beginning to emerge.
    One empire notably lacking from this list is that of the Byzantines. When they saw what was happening, they returned to the gold standard, and in spite of the other corruption in the society, this government persisted until 1453, when it was conquered by the Turks.
    Should you become depressed and withdrawn? No. Should you make preparations? Definitely!!! Life is to be enjoyed, but spend a certain amount of time in preparation. It shouldn’t require much. It is best to enjoy your life, but be aware of the unfolding future.
    One strategy that may help is to limit all politicians to one term in office. Our founding fathers never intended there to be professional politicians, and we should bee sure that our political system is not dominated by lawyers. Our government should consist of a broad representation of our society, and the power of bureaucrats should be restricted. Remember that government is the employer of last resort, and most bureaucrats are less well-educated than the norm, and the upper echelons are mostly occupied by out-of-work politicians, Goldman-Sacks executives, and Harvard professors, none of which are particularly good choices.

  66. Ken

    Douglas Rushkoff has an idea about a period in the early middle ages that was the peak of humankind. From then on, it was a slow slide down with the seeds of corporatism sown in the Medici period.

    Just asking, have you read “Generations”, The “Fourth Turning”, or “Millennials Rising”? Aside from general interpretations of the classical era, the earliest generational theory I’ve found was 1801. A good year that, Bastiat was born.

  67. WOW – what a write up. The long run cycles we tend to ignore. The facts we don’t talk about. I came across an author Jonathan Cahn who wrote The Harbinger. A religious viewpoint on the coming problems. If you can catch him speaking on a religious station he can give the highlights in ten minutes whereas the book is a bit long and verbose in nature.

    We have not learned from history. Empty promises bankrupted General Motors 25 years ago when they took the accounting charges for the retirement benefits. I was starting college and my education in accounting and economics at the time. It took 25 years for the cash flow to catch up with them. Of course the rule of law went out the windows for their bankruptcy. Just as the basis of trust accounts at MF Global. What other rule of law will go out the window. Oh I know – how about a health care mandate that is the most blatant denial of basic constitutional law. The future is very grave

  68. How can a nation stand when it is corrupt from the highest level of federal gov. to the lowest in each state and city gov.? How can a nation stand when corporations are given better treatment than its people. How can a nation stand when it has more debt than it can ever pay off? How can a nation stand when the moral fiber that strengthened it is gone? How does a nation stand when their
    are so many liars and thieves?
    Few know the true history of the U.S. You have to search high and low to find the hidden works of this nation. It is nothing to be proud of. How do you like the medical cartel? Big pharmiceutical companies paying the FDA off to put manmade chemical drugs into your bodies. Think doctors care for you? In 2 polls 95-98% were in medicine for the money only. Most doctors are educated pill pushers and never cure anything. How do you think they build their practice. Why do you think they say that “they practice medicine”? Just pill pushers! Did you know that there are caring doctors that
    have stated there were cures for every disease known to man since the 40s. Have you ever looked into natural cures that actually cure people of disease? Most doctors are fair for putting casts on broken limbs and stiching a cut. Do the research and learn for yourselves. Oh! and do you realize how dangerous most pharmiceutical pills are? They do more damage than good and many cause
    death in a short period of time. Ther are the drugs that slowly kill you over time too. Think blood pressure medication for one. Dont ask your doctor though because he is trained to say they are
    safe. There is so much about keeping healthy most doctors do not know. Mainstream medicine is
    making a fortune off your suffering. Take a pill for this. Then take a pill for the side effect that the first pill gave you till you are taking 15 pills a day. Just more doctor visit$ and feeling miserable
    and no cure!
    I could go on and on about the lies and theives that overwhelm the country. They will steal you blind with a smile and you will smile back and pop out that credit card for them. I suppose ignorance
    is bliss but it can also be costly to you when you have no idea how things work such as your car or
    stovetop, computer etc.
    One of the biggest problems is most everyone wants this item or that toy thinking it will fulfill their
    lives. Isnt it great for awhile after you first get it? Of course that great feeling leaves you after a short period of time and you get bored with it so you want something else. What is up with that cycle?

    Everything is want want want and me me me! Why dont you try giving of your time and money to others? Ever try it? You will have much more content, that will be a lasting WOW feeling for life!
    Im not talking about giving to your favorite charity. I am talking of giving to someone personally. A
    1-1 interaction. Try to give some strangers life a magical day! An elderly person that can not afford
    something. An orphan that has no one but the orphanage. Give them something they could never have if it was not for YOU! Be kind to everyone, be courteous, be all that you are and get rid of ego.
    You do not need the latest and greatest thing. Its a want and contrary to what you believe will make you happy. Get rid of all ego and be more than ego. Dwell on the good in your mind. If someone
    does something that offends you (actually it hurts your pride or feelings) be kind to them and walk off. If you live it you will be it and in reality you will manifest all that you desire with that mind set. It just takes determination to get rid of ego. The stress of life will just melt away with that mindset and
    it has been proven scientifically. It takes a strong devoted person to do this as it is hard to be humble when you are angry etc. Negative emotions from you, bring negative things into your life.
    Positive emotions from you bring positive things into your life. You will actually manifest the things you desire in incredible ways IF you can maintain that mind set always.
    Most people sadly can not think that way. Too much ego! It takes strength of the mind which most people can not obtain or want or are too lazy. Without a strong mind it is; me me me always and no real true happiness.
    IF, you succeed at this, you will be a master of all the good things in life. All big events that effect your life that are negative will become speedbumps in your future and not the mountains that they normally are.
    If everyone would practice and live this truth the world would not be in the situation it is in now.
    Quantum physics has laws that will blow your mind once you know what they are and how we are connected by these laws. Did you know that of the trillions of cells in your body each cell communicates to all the other cells of your body. Did you know that each cell uses 5-10% of itself
    to comunicate to other cells and that the other 90-95% communicates with the universe, infinite
    knowledge, God?

    Best wishes everyone!

  69. The interesting thing about the corruption being discussed in the article is that it has always been present on the planet. You can go to any point in history and find the same issues cropping up. The only way out is to become “conscious” and to elect those who are also consciously aware of the truth, the greatest of which is the law of karma or “do unto others.” For example, let’s ask “Would we want an enormous mound of debt to be left for us to pay?” before we increase the national debt. Do unto others…

  70. Oswald Spengler was the first guy I ever read who detailed the cyclical nature of history . Meaty

    stuff ! About the Great Depression …. I read somewhere[?] that an Austrian bank failure was the

    push for the domino chain . Enjoyed most of the comments here . On humanity — not too difficult to

    appreciate individuals ……..but the aggregate is a headache for sure .

  71. First off, I would like to say I DO NOT AGREE with the OWS movement. That is because of the way they are handling themselves. Rapes, assaults, etc. This is not the way to take the “High Ground”, which is EXACTLY what needs to be done by the Citizenry of The United States of America. It is true, we have been handed a BULLSH1T hand by Bush, Obama and The Fed…Heck, our entire government, except Ron Paul. The People of The United States DO need to stand up now, or kneel forever. However, we must act accordingly. If we are not willing to do what is right, then we are also part of the problem. It is not just about “me, me, me” it is about “We, we, we”! The entire Green Initiative is also BULLSH1T, because it has been hijacked by the Socialist Liberal Progressives. They are using the idea of being “Green” to fund their crooked friends and are telling us it’s in our best interest. PROVE IT! What has actually helped The People with their Green Initiative? Has anyone’s power bill been lowered? Have gasoline prices been lowered, due to less consumption? Have electric cars done ANYTHING positive for the Earth? What is being burned to give them the electricity they need to run…coal? Have we stopped dumping into the 5 gigantic oceanic gyers, or are they continuing to grow exponentially? Last I heard, they were so large they could not be cleaned up, it was impossible! What about the BP oil spill? Somehow that was magically cleaned and everything is OK? What about the Fukushima nuclear disaster? That was also magically cleaned up and nothing happened there either?

    If OWS is to be taken as a TRUE MOVEMENT they need to act responsibly and probably get involved with the Tea Party. There is no reason the 2 should not come together, as their main ends are the same. Political party should not be the defining characteristic here, it should be ideology – and RESULTS!

    I agree, we need to be militant to have our needs met. But the enemy is the Fed Govt, not other U.S. citizens and random small businesses. Small business is what we NEED in America now, they are us, we are them, they ARE America. The People NEED to realize, there is no political party we should align ourselves with, no matter what you think – they do not care about YOU!

    Get to know your neighbor, have the conversation that is difficult to have. Talk about religion. Talk about politics. Talk about the future of America. Make your voice heard. WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO BE HEARD, and if they (The Feds) will not listen, WE WILL MAKE THEM LISTEN. This is OUR country, THEY are the stewards of OUR country. They are to help us maintain it, help us make it better, help us help others. If they deviate from that idea, THEY ARE TO BE REMOVED, by any means necessary! The government should fear it’s people, The People should NEVER fear it’s government!

  72. @ Capt. America

    I gave you a thumbs down but agreed with alot of what you had to say. The thumbs down was for your perception of what has transpired with OWS. I believe that the true Tea Party, not the hijacked discredited Tea Party express movement, and OWS can and should come together on the major issues like economic justice and reforms…but what I see with OWS vs. many Tea Partiers is that the Tea Partiers truly believe they can make positive changes from within the current social structure while many of the OWS understand that the system is rigged in favor of the status quo and NO TRUE POSITIVE CHANGE can happen simply by VOTING. The influence of money within the political system is too powerful a force preventing any real change for the betterment of the 99%.

    I agree with you that we need to get to know our neighbors and local small business owners…but TPTB realize this too and are positioning themselves via the FED govt and its enforcement powers to crack down on “food co-ops” and the likes. CENTRALIZATION is the game…and we are almost at the END GAME! Unfortunately, liberty and privacy lose in the end.

  73. kind of a simplistic argument basis, made at the risk of throwing out your father’s and grandfather’s wisdom about linear history. History cannot be cyclical, but it can have cycles. It is always linear in that we have come from the beginning and are moving toward the end. There IS an end. And it is not good. Man has failed every economy that he has been given by God. He is failing this one; the economy of GRACE through faith.

  74. Which convention will be protested?


    Which convention should Tea Partiers…. un co-opted…. be protesting?


    For supposed lovers of liberty, you sure put a lot of faith in concessions. Think about that for a moment. Are you seeking concessions or freedom?

  75. Every so often all the tumblers are thrown up in the air and fall down in a completely different configuration. A necessary realignment of world values and conditions to live by. Some will make it thru the chaos and some won’t. The consequences of the realignment could go several ways, including extinction of species homo sapiens.

  76. What do you all think of the Federal reserve? Nice name for a private corporation.
    How do you like paying higher taxes because of this Rothchild owned company?
    I have read that the gov. is just able to meet the interest payments on all the money
    they have borrowed. Some reports say less but I bet the former is true. When the
    founders wrote the Constitution they wrote into law that the gov. was to be the only
    entity that was able to mint coins for commerce (gold/silver). The unconstitutional
    congress changed that in around 1913. Hence the Federal reserve. Now we get to
    pay higher taxes to enrichen this abomination. What is up with that? The Federal
    reserve going away would reduce our true debt by trillions. Lower our taxes and
    strengthen our economy. Who do you think prints money for the majority of nations?
    ROTHCHILDS FAMILY. Who do you think is responsible for all the wars in the
    world? This cartel works both sides to get people angry enough to go to war.
    Guess who finances both countries when they are fighting a war. This same family
    that decimates peoples lives when their brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers are
    killed. The human condition is wired to fight and taught to have national pride. There
    is not anything wrong with being proud of your nation when people are doing the
    right thing. Going to war and killing another human being does not bring honor to
    anyone in these circumstances. People and nations are being manipulated under
    cover so to speak. You only get honor by protecting your families/friends, not
    getting them killed for a greedy World Corporate entity. This family has over half
    the wealth of the entire world! These people are responsible for the deaths of
    countless millions. These people are responsible for you not having enough money
    to help others, buy the new car you need for work, pay your house off sooner etc.
    This family lives like kings of the world and sit and laugh at ALL the people of the
    world. Now they want a world war to kill even more people. Think New World
    Order. It has been stated that this New World Order will bring peace to the planet.
    It will do that after hundreds of millions of us die. Those that are left will work for
    slave wages just to get enough money to eat while this family will own everything.
    In this “brave new world” the living will only be left to live if they work hard enough.
    Your overseer will kill you for not producing enough widgets. You can kiss any
    freedom goodbye. Good B movie material but it is coming to fruition.
    It is time for a New World Order but not the Rothchild version!

    As always, best wishes to you all!

  77. Why there is no large “Trillion dollar national debt”. A casual exploration of two sections of the Constitution can quickly get us out of the so-called national debt quagmire. Article 1, section 8, is that section where we, the people, tell our elected SERVANTS what WE want them to do regarding things like borrowing, and money (we want coins for money), and article 1, section 10, the money can only be gold and silver coined money. Debts, like borrowing, can only be coined gold and silver. Now, since there is a finite amount of gold and silver available to planet earth to find, dig up, refine, send to the mint for them to coin, and lastly, for that coin to be borrowed, there is therefore a limited amount of money that can be borrowed.

    Now, we know that, at some time or other, some bright person came up with the idea of paper notes for money, so that we wouldn’t be encumbered by the old fashioned concept of dealing with coins. Coins were good insofar as they were HONEST, you could weigh them and check for their purity. Notes for money could be honest only if you could convert the notes (redeem them), but once no longer redeemable, they failed miserably as store of value money. We were at the mercy of the printer, the more they printed, the less the notes were worth (it’s called inflation). Our own Greenbacks were honest notes, it took awhile after the Civil War for all the notes to be paid off, but they were (to Mr. Lincoln’s credit). But not so with the Federal Reserve Notes issued since 1965. These notes made a claim to legitimacy, the legend on the 1965 note said “These notes are legal tender for all debts, public and private, and are redeemable in lawful money at the United States Treasury, or at any Federal Reserve bank.” So your reporter went to such, and sought to obtain his lawful money. He was rebuffed, and sent away. The lawful money was the gold and silver coin. The gold had been stolen in 1933, and the silver was stolen in 1965. Therefore, I can say with certainty, there is no money in the U.S. And because there has been no money in the U.S. for decades, there has been no legitimate borrowing for the last 45 years or so.

    Lawrence Sarsoun
    Author of “America’s Monetary Mess”
    [email protected]

  78. I have to say this is one of the most accurate, straight forward and honest articles I have read.
    Rates – Outstanding

  79. Admin,
    I only wish the mainstream sheeple were even slightly aware of the drama you explained perfectly in this 3 part series. Well done!

    I have lost all faith in the MSM, the bomb is ticking and all they can talk about is Treyvon and the GOP primary circus. I started watching BBC for at least some type of global perspective, our MSM is brain-washing the sheeple into a numbing illusion of “all’s well” hypnosis.

    I was watching this series the other day, and I thought it was well worth the time, check it out:

  80. The Hunger Games is what our future might resemble if we allow the ruling class to manipulate us into believing that human sacrifice as entertainment is required to maintain security as thanks for stability. We are becoming a depraved and immoral society unwilling to face the critical choices necessary to sustain the republic. Personal wealth in one’s lifestime seems to be the primary motivation for ignoring the destructive implications that such behavior creates. The passing on of intergenerational wealth will not be sufficient to hold back the masses from revolution, only delya the inevitable.

  81. There is no fourth turning.

    There is only one repetitive, convulsive history of our species. The overwhelming majority of us are most often willfully ignorant of, or actually embrace, the corruption within our own lives, and among those around us, if it be perceived we can make personal gain from it. Eventually, as Mencken said, we get not what we wanted, but what we deserved.

  82. Dan

    I commend you, an embodiment of Popper’s falsification, as a legend in your own mind. I have yet to see one of you drive-by cunts who’ve read the book and can refute the ideas with logic rather than bombastic agendae of your making.

    Your ‘we’ certainly deserves it, good and hard.

    Have a nice day.

  83. It is apparent that some people sterotype groups instead of defining groups
    more precisely.
    To gerneralize a group shows only ignorance, a lack of education, or a lack of
    critical thinking and possibly that of the IQ. This seems to be the tool most used
    by those that like to hear the sound of their own voice etc. A group can be
    defined as a whole in the correct context but individuals in a group can be put
    into many subgroups. Thoughts or beliefs in subgroups are not the same
    in all subgroups or even in each individual. Thoughts or beliefs depend on the
    understanding of each by the individual. It is how our brains process the
    information that we read or hear (or want to hear through selective hearing)
    that can define which subgroup we as individuals more closley belong.
    Therefore, with this knowledge we can define the overall thoughts or belief of
    a group with the realization that subgroups have many different beliefs as well.
    These thoughts or beliefs make us what we are and how we act. However, there
    are those that say they belong to a group that do so only for some gain such as
    money or power. There are those in pollitics that do this and any person that
    would qualify them by their actions can see the truth. Many people do not take
    the time to be sure that these people are who they say they are. The people will
    just vote as they believe and not qualify the candidate.

  84. Each civilization is born in some inexplicable fashion and, after
    a slow start, enters a period of vigorous expansion, increasing its
    size and power, both internally and at the expense of its neighbors,
    until gradually a crisis of organization appears… It becomes
    stabilized and eventually stagnant. After a Golden Age of peace and
    prosperity, internal crises again arise. At this point, there appears
    for the first time, a moral and physical weakness.

    The passage from the Age of Expansion to the Age of Conflict is
    the most complex, most interesting and most critical of all periods of
    the life cycle of a civilization. It is marked by four chief
    characteristics: it is a period:
    a) of declining rate of expansion;
    b) of growing tensions and class conflicts;
    c) of increasingly frequent and violent imperialist wars;
    d) of growing irrationality.

    ~Tragedy and Hope by Caroll Quigley

    Prof. Quigley? Interesting. I can see he had done his history homework viz. The Roman Empire.

  85. Novista,

    As I did not write the article I do not have an answer for your question other
    than what little I have read. I know the Chinese Gov. limited the amount of
    children a couple could have years ago. If I remember correctly, especially
    how many female children they could have. It also seems that couples were
    rewarded by having male children only.
    I can only speculate on 3rd world nations as I have not done any research
    and have not seen any information anywhere on the issue.
    If you want more information I would recommend contacting the author of
    the article.

  86. Bill,

    If you offer an eye opener, you should be prepared to defend it.

    China had a one child policy. Like most top-down edicts, there were exceptions, caveats, and provisos. Namely, if you could afford it. The male child option was an artifact of the culture. A lot of female infants died prematurely …

    To amplify what I thought about the article, I reckon the NWO master plan is an epic fail.

  87. Could I suggest you have add an email subscribe feature.

    Having just found you, I will most likely forget about you now as there is no way for me to ask you to remind me.

    40 Shades

  88. Very solid work. Bravo! Inflection Point posted excerpts (a large part) of your piece; part one. We provide full credit and links to the piece as well as links to part two and three.

    This is our commentary:

    In this mind bending piece Jim Q again provides a clear long range vision of possibilities in an increasingly myopic and deluded world. Among the emergence of a new honorable Fourth Estate, is a standout. The editorial insight provides a vivid account of history book Turnings as they unfold before our very eyes! Today’s challenges bring to mind JFK’s prophetic words of truth in his attempts to End The Fed, stop the war in SE Asia and battle organized crime;

    “A revolution is coming – a revolution which will be peaceful if we are wise enough, compassionate if we care enough, successful if we are fortunate enough – but a revolution is coming whether we will it or not. We can affect its character, we cannot alter its inevitability.” – JFK

    Below are excerpts from part one. Be sure to study all three parts. See links below. – IP

    The excerpts were posted at Inflection Point here:

    And at Don’t Tread On Me


    If this is against your better sensibilities please let me know and I will take them down.

    Keep up your outstanding work!

    – EC

  89. Novista,

    I posted the link for interest only. The question I asked when posting
    the link was rhetorical I did not write the article. It is what it is.
    I have no reason to defend it as you have proven…people have made
    their minds up already about the NWO one way or the other. I thank
    you for reminding me of the facts about China and population control.
    However, if you wanted me to defend the article why did you not also
    discuss the BPA,LFA,NOAA,GMO,DU,and agenda 21, and enlighten
    me on the statistics of 3rd world nations as well? Also, What are the
    statistics of Chinas population control from the time that it was implemented
    till now? You reckon that the NWO agenda is an epic fail. Tell me,
    what is the NWO agenda as you see it? I have not seen the last act of
    the play being over as of yet. So…are you saying that all is well with the
    world now?

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  91. [Dallas Fed Res. Report]
    A second example of divisions in the banking sector comes from the Federal Reserve Board of Dallas which released a report from its chief researcher, Harvey Rosenblum , “Why We Must End Too Big To Fail Now,” cites statistics showing that the five largest U.S. banks hold 52% of all bank assets. The report points out that “American workers and taxpayers want a broad-based recovery that restores confidence. . . The road back to prosperity will require reform of the financial sector. In particular, a new roadmap must find ways around the potential hazards posed by the financial institutions that the government not all that long ago deemed ‘too big to fail.’” In an introduction to the report, Dallas Fed President Richard W. Fisher calls for “downsizing” these megabanks because the continuing cloud of ‘too big to fail’ hanging over the economy is simply too costly.

    Too big to fail might just be the straw that breaks the sheoples backs.

  92. Hmm, heard of Bleeding Kansas? There WERE people who were aware. They’re the ones that took advantage of it! Either by profit or getting the heck out of Dodge. It’s like economics – if you know something and tell everyone, then the timeline is skewed so keep it under your hat to take advantage. But the cycles are going to happen even if they take a different amount of time or happened differently. Also, even Volcano cycles have cutoff points. Life is not much different since it also relies on entropy principles. If the sun went nova, all cycles in life would end, after all.

    The conclusion can be right, even if some of the premises are flawed. The major premise – that people ignore history overall and that this in fact causes the next stage to happen, is pretty much 100% proven by history. The exceptions kind of prove the rule.

  93. Speaking of destroyed illusions, lemmings don’t jump off cliffs. That was a Disney scam (the fact that they rigged up a turntable to fling lemmings off the cliff for the camera is pretty damn funny, though).

    If we’re talking history, then who gives a fuck if the USA survives? The world had existed for millions upon millions of years before it came to be, and some form of life will live long after it is gone. Please be honest: the only driving force is a preoccupation with your own continued existence (this includes your children, because they’re “yours”), and frankly, in that regard, history could give a sloppy shit. Humans are so fucking boring most of the time, living so much in their tiny little heads.


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