Went to the Wal Mart to get some more cheap ammo today. The lady said I better get all the 9mm I could now, because the government is buying it all, and it has resulted in no more shipments “until further notice”. So, I did some digging, and found this article. It may be a rumor, a tin-foil hat moment, but, if not, you better get out there and stock up now before it becomes unavailable and/or sold out, if you are so inclined. As the crazy preppers say “you can’t have too much ammo”, especially if the government doesn’t want you to have it. And remember, you heard it here first.
FYI: Government Buying Out All The 5.56 Military Surplus Ammo & Is Telling Ammo Dealers To Stop Selling To Their Vendors & Civilians.
From: Anonymous Source
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:27 PM
To: The Americas, Israel & Europe
Subject: Government buying out all the 5.56 Military surplus ammo and is telling ammo dealers to stop selling to their vendors and civilians.
I have been calling allot of ammo distributors and ALL of them are telling me that our government is all the 5.56-.223 cal military surplus ammo. And their also telling the ammo distributors stop selling the ammo to civilians and their vendors because the government is buying it all up from everyone they can. I have also spoken with theses ammo dealers and they told me that the 5.56 and .223 ammo is going way up in price.
For instance…I paid $149.00 for federal surplus 440 rounds of steal core and now at the gun show today it was selling for $440.00 for 420 rounds. I have checked and ALLOT of places online are out of the Military surplus ammo by federal. M193 and M855 SS109 ammo. I did find one place still carrying both these ammo’s and good prices still, but their the only place I could find. If interested let me know and Ill forward the info.
I was also told by the same ammo dealers that the government is going to buy all the 9mm and .45 ammo up, so hurry and buy while you can at the lower prices while still available. Guess if they won’t take our guns because they figure that there are some many out there, they will just buy all most popular military calibers. Can’t shoot a gun with no ammo…stock up now while you still can.
They also said the government will continue to purchase all the ammo through the presidential election and they will continue to until the president tells them to stop. And if obama gets reelected instead of rejected, you know he wont stop the purchasing of all the ammo mentioned above.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1914/592/FYI:_Government_Buying_Out_All_The_5.56_Military_Surplus_Ammo_Is_Telling_Ammo_Dealers_To_Stop_Selling_To_Their_Vendors_Civilians..html
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18th May 2012 at 8:09 am
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
There are certainly some spot shortages. Find a local guy who does reloading and buy from him, in cash.
Better yet, learn how to reload the common stuff and invest in reloading equipment and supplies. It isn’t really all that expensive.
If you are going to stock, make sure you have a way to keep your ammo in a low humidity environment, and organized. We use ammo cans in which we put those humidity pack things that change color when saturated with water vapor. Recheck the cans on a every 6 month schedule.
You cannot have enough ammo, period. Without it your gun or rifle is just an expensive club.
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18th May 2012 at 8:47 am
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18th May 2012 at 8:50 am
ragman says:
I have been doing bidness with ammoman.com and I just checked his website for availability of common military cals. 5.56 mostly gone except for russian crap and some very expensive Federal. 7.62X51 gone. Over the last couple of yrs I have stocked up on really good German surplus 7.62 but now it’s totally gone. 50BMG: good luck with that! Eric always had really nice 50 cal AP from Argentina, 80s manufacture but it’s gone too. Sounds like out fucking govt is trying to corner the market on the popular stuff. First it was .40, now 9, 45, and 5.56? If true, this is not good. I’m sure some surplus can still be found at a good price, but like all commodities, the easy inexpensive stuff seems to be all gone. Ammoengine is an excellent source of info on this topic.
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I’m devastated that I’m going to lose a dedicated reader. I don’t need readers who are too fucking dumb to figure out the post wasn’t from me and lecturing me about credibility.
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18th May 2012 at 9:29 am
flash says:
That’s it….often referred to as Irish dander.
I sometimes suffer the affliction as well..but then it passes..
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18th May 2012 at 9:53 am
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And in Chicago today… (talk about overkill). I’m glad I got the hell out yesterday.
CONR to fly air defense exercise in preparation for NATO Summit
May 17, 2012
TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. – Continental U.S. North American Aerospace Defense (NORAD) Command Region fighters will be active prior to the NATO Summit preparing to protect the skies around Chicago.
Exercise Amalgam Virgo 12-NATO, a NORAD air defense exercise, will be held Friday in the greater Chicago area to allow interagency partners an opportunity to work collaboratively in this environment.
The Amalgam Virgo exercise comprises a series of training flights held in coordination with the Federal Aviation Administration, U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Coast Guard, the NATO Summit Joint Operations Center and the Continental U.S. NORAD Region’s Eastern Air Defense Sector.
Residents in the Chicago area can expect flights to begin around 9 a.m. (CST), Friday, and continue for approximately two hours. Exercise Amalgam Virgo is designed to hone NORAD’s intercept and identification operations. Civil Air Patrol aircraft, Air National Guard C-21 aircraft, Air Force KC-135 tanker, Air Force F-16s, and a Coast Guard HH-65 Dolphin helicopter will participate in the exercise.
“Providing the air defense for special security events like this year’s NATO Summit is a part of our day-to-day mission,” said Lt. Gen. Sid Clarke, Continental U.S. NORAD Region commander. “Our interagency partnerships are a key component to the air defense shield for events like this and the Amalgam Virgo exercise is an excellent opportunity for us to hone our air defense skills with all our interagency partners.”
These exercises are carefully planned and closely controlled to ensure the Continental U.S. NORAD Region’s rapid response capability. The Continental U.S. NORAD Region has conducted exercise flights of this nature throughout the U.S. since the start of Operation Noble Eagle, the command’s response to the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
During the NATO Summit, Air Force fighter jets will be on alert to enforce the Federal Aviation Administration’s Temporary Flight Restriction (TFR) zone during the summit. Officials advise all aviators to check the Notices to Airmen (NOTAMS) as required with a special focus on TFRs.
http://www.norad.mil/News/2012/051712.html
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18th May 2012 at 10:14 am
Nonanonymous says:
I wouldn’t put it past our Kommander in Khief to coordinate through the DOJ to start buying up all the ammo. We’ve known about recent purchase orders for millions of .40 cal hollow points through multiple fed agencies. That’s not practice ammo. It accomplishes two goals, stockpiling, which the feds have been doing since 2008, including freeze dried food, and keeps it out of civilian hands, all without those pesky 2A activists being able to do anything about it.
The average citizen is going to be on their own during any civil unrest.
@HopeZK, DO NOT buy ANY reloaded ammo from ANYBODY. I learned this the hard way. I agree learning to reload, and stockpiling supplies is a valuable skill and commodity.
There are numerous factors that could be contributing to ammo shortages, whether real or perceived. I suspect the truth behind the unsubstantiated rumor posted by AWD is the feds purchase of .40 call JHP. It would stand to reason.
Be safe and be prepared.
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18th May 2012 at 10:23 am
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It sure seems like the Feds are preparing for more than a NATO Summit. It seems like they are flexing their muscles to show the people who is boss. The U.S. Military is only supposed to be used against external threats to protect the country from attack. We are becoming a police state and the sheeple don’t even blink.
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18th May 2012 at 10:34 am
Persnickety says:
Much inaccuracy here. I’m hearing more and more untrue rumors about gun-related stuff these days.
5.56 / 223 ammo has had erratic supply since the “war on terror” began in late 2001, largely because of large orders for military (both US and many foreign) and police. The worst shortages were right around the 2008 election, and now we’re in the early stages of another shortage cycle. Most US military ammo is supplied by the Lake City plant, which they control. The vast majority of the civilian .223 does not meet any military or federal LE specification and would not be bought for military or LE agency use. I don’t buy into the idea of the government covertly buying the entire supply of ammo to limit its availability to civilians.
The military uses mostly 9mm and they don’t actually use that much of it. Most police agencies (local, state or federal) use .40 S&W, followed far behind by .45 ACP, .45 GAP, 357 SIG, and 9mm. I really doubt the 9mm shortage claims.
The simple fact is that .223 and 9mm are also among the most popular civilian calibers, so massive public buying has a major effect on available supply.
The DHS .40 S&W contract is a big one, but it’s also a 5-year requirements contract, and they aren’t obligated to buy the whole amount. And kids, the government practices with the same ammo they issue for shooting people, because (a) they get it for pennies more than the cheap FMJ because there is no marketing or liability insurance attached to it like for civilian sales, and (b) it’s not their money anyway, it’s yours, and they are happy to spend it.
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18th May 2012 at 10:45 am
Tampa Gold says:
TFF…… I did a search yesterday for these 420 round cans of steel core……only the 189.00 cans were still available. And they have stamped on the outside of the can in big, bold letters, NOT FOR DUTY USE.
They come in 420 round sealed ammo cans.
Walmart had them back in Oct and would get 6 at a time.
until Dec 23, I was able to accumulate 24 of these super ghetto deals. (w/o the not for duty markings.)
Since then, no mas.
Snickety, Believe me, the grubbymint WILL try to corner the ammo market since they can’t take our guns away.
Okenyan is like a snake, sneaking around trying to figure out a way in.
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18th May 2012 at 11:39 am
AWD says:
Eternal:
I posted this, and you can blow me.
Thanks to the rest of you for the input.
This is a blog, not the Washington Post douchebag.I sometimes post stuff I hear or find out so as to get my compadres on the site to also do some digging, and a conclusive answer is found that started with a rumor, for the benefit of all. If you don’t like that, you can go fuck yourself.
I don’t know who or what the fuck you are, but don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out you mouse-eared dickless fuckwad.
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18th May 2012 at 11:42 am
DaveL says:
“As the crazy preppers say “you can’t have too much ammo”, especially if the government doesn’t want you to have it.”
Seems to me, if the government doesn’t want you to have it, that the government is perfectly willng to uses it’s forces both(military and civilian) to deal with you when the time comes. They’ve got some awfully big fucking guns and planes.
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18th May 2012 at 12:08 pm
ragman says:
Just bought 2 cases of Lake City 5.56 at Widners $740.00 delivered. That is a good deal!
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18th May 2012 at 12:21 pm
OF says:
I don´t think 9mm Ammo will do. Last time I saw anti-terror cops they looked like bloody robo-cops. While you try to take down one, needing your whole magazine, the rest of them takes care of you.
I think the real prepper has to begin to think in grenades and anti-tank stuff…Seriously…
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18th May 2012 at 12:43 pm
Bullock says:
Just go to AmmoSeek.com. You can buy all the .223/5.56 ammo you want. And plenty of ammo of many other calibers. They search ammo sellers from all over the country. Use them often.
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18th May 2012 at 3:57 pm
DaveL says:
I’m with you OF. The preppers are out buying flyswatters to swat elephants. I don’t think the government cares if you buy those flyswatters. They’re going to drop elephants on you.
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18th May 2012 at 4:12 pm
DaveL says:
oooo…looks like eternal touched a nerve
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18th May 2012 at 4:57 pm
Bruce says:
Could be that in addition to the government, everybody and his brother is buying up all the ammo and has been for quite some time. Old military surplus would surely run down or out sooner or later especially at the elevated demand for ammo that seems to keep growing.
And price? Things go up. Prices have been going up a lot lately even if demand is not a factor. A square of ordinary standard three tab shingle costs…………….$64. Yes $64 dollars! With the depressed new construction levels the main demand for three tab is repairs and damaged roofs covered by insurance. Certainly the demand for shingles is lower not higher. The price of things like 2×4′s and dry wall screws are about twice what they were just three or four years ago. And the demand for this stuff is lower than ever with new construction being on its ass.
Might be the FED counterfeit fiat fantasy bucks printed by the bail are having some effect on the price of ammo and everything else. But then I could be mistaken because the FED and The Obama administration said there is no inflation. But I’ll bet I’m closer to right than closer to wrong.
It could be that we are doomed and we are just seeing the tide go out before the big wave comes in. DOOM………………….the new normal.
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18th May 2012 at 11:20 pm
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oooo…looks like eternal touched a nerve”
oooo…I didn’t say this, but thanks for the thumbs up. I don’t get too many.
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18th May 2012 at 11:31 pm
a cruel accountant says:
What do you do do when the ammo runs out?
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18th May 2012 at 11:35 pm
Bullock says:
Bruce, shop around, found 3 tab at Home Depot for 29.75. But most of the mexicans are not around anymore to help me out and the white boys in my area are lazy as hell.
I know things are fucked up but lets try not to exaggerate, things are bad enough.
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18th May 2012 at 9:34 am
flash says:
Bullocks
Now multiple 29.75. X three and you’ll find Bruce correct.
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18th May 2012 at 9:45 am
Bullock says:
Yes Flash you are correct. I forgot about 3 bundles makes a square. Looks like Bruce is getting a better deal then me. Looked in my records, paid 25.97 a bundle two years ago for same shingles.
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18th May 2012 at 10:46 am
ThePessimisticChemist says:
One of the nice things about this area is that there are so many poor uneducated white boys that the slow withdrawal of mexicans from the scene hasn’t made construction difficult at all.
As much as I hate aspects of this town, it really does have a number of positives.
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18th May 2012 at 11:01 am
flash says:
Forget about the ammo ,can any of you rich white crackers help a brotha’ out?
http://wreg.com/2012/05/16/tn-man-fathers-30-kids-but-cant-support-any/
TN Man “Fathers” 30 Kids But Can’t Support Any
(Knoxville, TN) Desmond Hatchett is pleading with the state of Tennessee to help him pay for child support.
With 30 kids, who could afford to pay child support?
Yes, 30 children by 11 different “baby mamas.”
Desmond explained how it all happened, well you know what we mean, “I had four kids in the same year. Twice.”
The children range in age from toddlers to 14 years old.
He was last in court in 2009, at which time he had 21 children.
That means he’s had at least 9 more children in the last 3 years.
Hatchett only has a minimum wage job, which means some of the moms receive as little as… $1.49 a month.
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18th May 2012 at 11:50 am
shitfaced says:
223/5.56 all gone.
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18th May 2012 at 11:45 pm
Monkey says:
I bet all of you naysayers feels dumb now. Go try to buy your surplus ammo now. and the first replier listing cheaper-than-dirt as a reference of a faithful ammo and weapons dealer… well, um, 6months later seems the original poster was right. Apologies?
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18th May 2012 at 3:59 pm
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Tampa Gold:
I have not read a comment from you in months. Welcome back, big fella! – John A
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18th May 2012 at 4:42 pm
Art says:
Well to some degree it is true. The govt has already bought over a million rds for DHS and even the EPA, IRS, SS admin and FDA have aquisitioned hundreds of thousands of rounds and there is plans to buy several million more…so they are up to something.
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18th May 2012 at 4:43 pm
This is the Era that Shall Test the Resolve of Men says:
[...] have stepped forth, both amongst the people, and against them. Both sides are in the process of arming themselves on an unprecedented scale. And we the people have coarsened and began the process [...]
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18th May 2012 at 3:54 pm
Me says:
Well it now being January 2013 and you can not find 9mm ammo anywhere and I found another article that posted more recently that backed this up and this was 7 months earlier you guys should have listened!!
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18th May 2012 at 11:20 am
Herenthere says:
While I do believe something big and stupid is about to happen, I don’t know exactly what it is, but I want to know the answer to the one universal question: WHY?
I have heard from more than one source that DHS, EPA, IRS, SSA are all buying rounds. I have heard from only ONE source that the government does this once every election year. We should be looking for patterns people. Patterns can be behavioral, statistical, etc. If the gov’t is buying ammo, lets look at the last election year and determine if they did it then also.
If something is about to happen to all the ‘sheeple’ what is the reason. Not to imply that nothing is happening, (I SEE IT CLEAR) But who is the benefactor of suspicious event, and what would be the actual benefit? Loss of human lives would result in loss of tax revenue. Ive pondered many hours on this subject but cannot achieve any conclusions. I just want to hear all the reasons for controlling the world’s populace. What can possibly be the real benefit from this?
Ragman: Check your ammoman.com site now. (Currently closed due to overwhelming orders)
Art: Keep up the curiosity. Its what separates us from the rest of the flock, but sticking one’s head out can also lead to it getting hit.
Flash: I wonder why those who need to be removed from the gene pool have such a strong presence in it.
Monkey: (Respectfully,) While an apology would be a nice gesture, I for one feel the effort would be better if refocused toward understanding of the fact rather than apologizing for being wrong about it.
Eternal: Stop trolling, or you will be one of the many without any self-defense.
HnT
P.S. for the record, the Walmart in my local area (withheld) is near completely void of any handgun ammo at all. The .223/5.56 is totally gone. PERIOD. It seems pretty obvious to me that “Something is afoot.”
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18th May 2012 at 1:49 am
More and more, are Progressives pushing for a different kind of “Cliff”? Careful what you fear monger… — GraniteGrok says:
[...] have stepped forth, both amongst the people, and against them. Both sides are in the process of arming themselves on an unprecedented scale. And we the people have coarsened and began [...]
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18th May 2012 at 11:25 pm
MGF says:
Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but I feel like it is time to rethink this topic.
My coworker went to Wal Mart yesterday to get ammo for her husband’s .22. There wasn’t a single case of ammo behind the counter. She asked the guy behind the desk why there wasn’t any ammo. He was quiet at first, but she coaxed out of him that a state trooper had come in at 8:00 every morning for a while and bought all of the ammo they had just shipped in. She then went to 2 other Wal Marts and a Dick’s Sporting Goods with the same exact results. The only place she could find ammo was a small private gun store. This place never had a lot of business before, but she had to wait in line for over two hours to get any ammo.
Eternal posted this link to refute the article initially:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?pagesize=150&catid=110&pagenumber=1
I recommend checking it out again. Of the hundreds of different boxes of ammo they have, only 10 are in stock.
Draw your own assumptions
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18th May 2012 at 10:20 am
Eddie says:
My view is that there is an awful lot of:
1. Buying on spec to make some bucks in case guns and/or ammo become illegal.
2. Prepping by people who see ammo as useful for barter.
3. People buying ammo because they fear a societal collapse and want to be armed.
I do not see a conspiracy.I wish we had more people hoarding heirloom seeds instead of bullets.
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18th May 2012 at 11:38 am
IndenturedServant says:
Wally World (three different stores) in my neck of the woods are fully stocked with ammo and guns. If I’m not in a hurry, I always stop at Wally world to buy ammo if I get within a few blocks of a WW store. They don’t sell .30 Carbine so I need to source some of that.
Gas is down to $2.90/gallon at my local Costco too.
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18th May 2012 at 5:15 pm
terry says:
cant find much of any 556 or 223 in florida
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18th May 2012 at 5:46 pm
crazyivan says:
“What do you do do when the ammo runs out?”
That’s when you have to tell your kids to “run like the wind”.
Soon ammo will be treated like …?
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18th May 2012 at 6:07 pm
Fluffy says:
Well now what do you all think? It is now a different story. We are having a difficult time finding ammo.
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18th May 2012 at 3:16 pm
Champagne says:
So….my stepson called to see if I could find any 9mm ammunition in my area in Michigan. Well guess what, all the sporting goods store are out. I don’t know who is buying all of the ammo but I’m hoping it’s responsible civilians and not the government.
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18th May 2012 at 8:11 pm
Mckeywest says:
That image looks like Dongs in Tulsa. Am I correct AWD?
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18th May 2012 at 9:55 pm
crazyivan says:
Don’t answer him AWD- it is a trick question!
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18th May 2012 at 10:12 pm
Mary Malone says:
Some of my Tea Party pals are civil war buffs and said that soldiers packed carrots into their rifles/muskets (packed gun powder first) back in the day.
So one re-enactment weekend, when they were bored, they decided to give carrots the ol’ college try. They packed the gun powder then pushed the carrot down and fired. Said it packed a powerful punch and blew a hole thru the target.
They Feds can buy up the bullets, but we’ll always have carrots! Heh.
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18th May 2012 at 10:41 pm
Sgtpadg says:
Sad how true this has become
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18th May 2012 at 6:31 am
JOE says:
Funny how the guy said 15 secs of searching made that story bullshit, yet months later, I look at this site, and all the ammo is sold out. Weird, who is the idiot now.
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18th May 2012 at 10:29 pm
DBO says:
So here we are… Feburary of 2013…. the government is trying to take our guns… and no Ammo to be found anywhere!
SMH
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18th May 2012 at 1:49 pm
Anonymous says:
Nothing left, anybody know where I can get some 9mm or .223 ammo?
Please help!
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18th May 2012 at 11:20 am
AWD says:
I bought out the last 12gauge sabot slug ammo at Wal Mart recently. All that’ left is bird shot. Nothing online either under $1000. Unbefuckinglievable.
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18th May 2012 at 11:37 am
Marc says:
You called it!
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18th May 2012 at 6:33 am
lockguy17 says:
You were right..
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18th May 2012 at 9:20 pm
lockguy17 says:
3-7-2013 I cant find ammo anywhere…
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18th May 2012 at 9:22 pm
AWD says:
I picked up 3 boxes of 270 rounds today. All that’s left is shotgun ammo and some hunting/sniper ammo.
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18th May 2012 at 9:25 pm
NOAMMO, NO PROBLEM.. says:
Yah those motherfucking muffin headed liberals are up to NO good… Um who needs 1.6 BILLION rounds of ammo for training? Hitler didn’t even need that much to take over Europe…. Are the FEDS training for “World takeover” after killing the taxpayers….. Seriously??? WAKE UP
Glad I voted for Romney doubt that shit matters now. Next conspiracy would be we won’t get another election.
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18th May 2012 at 8:27 pm
virgil says:
funny how everyone is buying as much ammo as they can and then ask why there is a shortage, in my area (AZ) I watched people a few months back buying pallets of ammo, now the stores have a 3 box limit and people bring a whole family in to buy as much as possible, its the horders that are making it hard to buy anything, hell, can’t find a AR rifle around here under 2k and they fly off the shelf, met a few people waiting for the stores to open that was just there to buy as many ARs as possible so they can try to resell after a possible ban,
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18th May 2012 at 12:05 am
fallout11 says:
The boat has sailed folks, the time to buy guns and ammo has largely passed. They will certainly never be inexpensive again, if even available at all.
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18th May 2012 at 10:18 am
AWD says:
I put up this post May, 2012. There was plenty of ammo available then. If you look at the comments, I caught shit for this post. Who’s laughing now? No ammo, you’re going to be somebody’s bitch before long. Not me. I warned you.
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18th May 2012 at 10:30 am