ACTUAL PORTRAIT, SUBMITTED BY AVALON, OF PRESIDENT QUINN
FROM: SSS
Chairman, Senate Judiciary Committee
TBP Nation
TO: The Honorable James Quinn
President
TBP Nation
Dear Mr. President:
I read with great interest, and great concern, your recent press release to TBP Nation, where you stated, “I favor legalizing drugs and shifting our expenditures towards treatment rather than criminalization.” I am aware that you have some very vocal and strong support for that view among some of your TBP Nation supporters, but as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I hope you find the following of interest.
Article II, Section II of the Constitution states, “(The President) shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senate present concur.”
As you know, under Presidents Kennedy, Nixon, and Reagan, the U.S. has signed three international treaties regarding illicit drugs, all with the consent of the Senate. There are, as of 2005, 180 national signatories to these conventions, which are as follows:
1. The 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs. This convention was directed at cannabis, coca, and opiate derivatives, ie. marijuana, cocaine, and heroin.
2. The 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Drugs. This convention was directed at drugs such as amphetamines, barbituates, and LSD. Importantly, this treaty also states that nations have the discretion to substitute “treatment, education, after-care, rehabilitation, and social integration” for criminal penalties directed at drug USERS/ABUSERS.
3. The 1988 Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotic Drugs. This convention strengthened the language in the first two conventions and added controls on precursor chemicals and international money laundering.
Your stated written position on illicit drugs clearly implies that you would not only abrogate those treaties, but also nullify dozens of federal and state laws which have been passed in response to our treaty obligations. That’s going to be a Herculean task, and, according to most legal scholars, one on which you cannot proceed without the consent of the Senate.
Abrogation of treaties by the U.S. is exceedingly rare. Here are the two most famous examples, both of which were abrogation of bilateral, and not international, treaties.
1. In 1798, Congress passed the Act of July 7, which pronounced the U.S. freed and exonerated from the mutual defense treaties signed with France in 1778. At the time, the U.S. and France were in a quasi-war initiated by France when it starting seizing commercial U.S. ships carrying goods bound for Great Britain. When the law was passed, France had seized more than 300 U.S. ships. In Bas v. Tingy, the Supreme Court decided that this was legal since it was akin to a declaration of “public war” against the French Republic, a power granted to only the Congress by the Constitution.
2. In 1979, President Jimmy Carter declared that the 1954 Sino-American Mutual Defense Treaty with the Republic of China (Taiwan) was null and void. Carter took this step when diplomatic relations with the People’s Republic of China were established. Enter Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater, who sued Carter on the grounds that he did not obtain Senate consent. In Goldwater v. Carter, the Supreme Court did not rule on the issue, essentially throwing out Goldwater’s suit. The court ruled that the issue was a “political battle” between the Executive and Legislative branches based on the fact that the U.S. Senate never actually voted on the issue. Had the Senate done so and voted not to uphold Carter’s decision to abrogate the treaty, thus triggering a formal dispute between the Executive and Legislative branches, then the issue would have been reviewable by the court.
So there you have it, Mr. President. You may take a constitutional path, which will involve members of the Senate, or you may adopt the attitude of Jimmy Carter and French King Louis XIV, who said, “L’etat, c’est moi” (I am the State).
I remain,
Your most humble servant,
SSS
P.S. Let’s move away from this legal mumbo-jumbo, Mr. President, and cut to the fucking chase.
The Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision, just ruled that the state of Texas may proceed with the execution of Mexican national Humberto Leal, who was convicted of the 1994 brutal rape and murder of 16 year old Adria Sauceda. Here’s a brief description of what happened. Sauceda was found naked by authorities. A “bloody and broken” stick roughly 15 inches long with a screw at the end of it was also protruding from the girl’s vagina. Leal was high on cocaine the night he killed Sauceda.
I can hardly wait when “legal drugs” generate stories like this from coast to coast. Everyday. Guaranteed. Rest assured, Mr. President, I shall fight you on this issue every step of the way, on the beaches, in the air. I will never give up. I will never surrender.
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RE:
I think you could use a cue from SSS. He posts Drug War provocations and gets nothing but shit, but he sticks by his guns and makes people think. The conversation wanders to his profession, people take shots at his position, but he comes back with vengeance.
Does he bag this site? No.
Does he tangle with Admin? Yes.
Does he throw up his arms and threaten to leave? No.
Man up, buttercup. You love TBP. Admit it.
Colma
Thanks.
Buckhed
I’m back for a few minutes. Then, it’s out to dinner to spend some of that CIA pension money. Snicker.
You keep posting some of that 50s and 60s stuff that the CIA was involved in. I told you that the CIA admitted its involvement (Bobby Kennedy also approved the assassination attempts against Castro, with his brother’s blessing, btw) in some U.S. domestic operations, which essentially ceased in the mid 70s. The FBI tapped Jack Anderson’s phone, not the CIA. The CIA did participate in surveilling Anderson. Don’t like that answer. Tough shit.
All potential charges against Jose Rodriguez have been dropped. Write a letter of protest to Attorney General Eric Holder.
Next time you want to tangle with me over the CIA, wear a diaper, because you keep shitting in your pants.
Over and out. For now.
RE trying to save as many as he can.
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SSS’ work is done for the night…
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We shall see what the morning brings…
Actually, we are averaging around a dozen or so posts a day, about 1/3 of which are mine for usually 4 topical posts a day from my keyboard. I just have enough spare time to come over here and provoke the napalm for entertainment purposes 🙂
RE
I just have enough spare time to come over here and provoke the napalm for entertainment purposes
-RE
Great! So you won’t mind I refer to you as a formerly-prolific Doom Kook turned Crazy old sniveling bat for entertainment purposes?
Any new predictions?
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“I, Reverse Engineer, see that we shall all die”
You’re begging for it, Pig Man…
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The “Burning Bush” is RE’s way of saying he caught a nasty syphillis rash with chlamydia that won’t quit from a toothless inuit hooker…
Eskimo pussy isn’t so cold after all.
“Any new predictions”-Colma
Sure. The Crystal Ball says Admin will recycle 2 People of Walmrat threads, 3 30 Blocks of Squalor threads and a Fourth Turning post in the coming month. In addition, each time I show up he will recycle the same old tired insults he does every time I make a post. After that, he will beg for Ad Clicks from the membership, followed by another Doug Casey interview promoting Gold.
Stucky will write “Fuck the Banks” on average twice a day for an average of 11 Thumbs Up on each occassion. SSS will fill the comments af 8 threads lauding the accomplishments of the CIA in iterdicting Drugs and propping up 3rd World Dictators. LLPOH will write 2 Short Stories demonstrating his acumen as a Wage Slave Overseer, Pirate Jo will lambast anyone with an income less than $100K for having babies and AWholeDr will be an A-hole. HZK will be out in the backyard of her Doomstead taking target practice on a scarecrow dressed as a Wetback, and Howie the Black MD will spill his Creamy White Filling all over the comments of the board.
You will fill the role of the board Jerk.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY – I WILL FILL THE ROLE OF RESIDENT ONE TRICK PONY PIGMAN DOUCHEBAG.
Time to go jerk off on my keyboard.
RE
You will fill the role of the board Jerk.
RE
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Cha. That’s not very nice. You’re a poopy-face.
Since when has “nice” been a part of the TBP zeitgeist? I must have missed that day.
RE
SSS..I asked you a question..you haven’t answered it…what did I make up ?
I don’t know, RE…
Are you sure you’re not an MK Ultra release in a halfway house basement instead of some Count Nardula in a frigid palace, complete with a tin-foil crown?
You have disturbing net-mannerisms. You take yourself way too seriously.
Novista
You said in a comment above:
“Funny how not piling on even gets ignored. I provided one link, not from sources talking their own book, but from Forbes. The Portugal experience is useful information but the spook ignores anything that doesn’t hew to his mindset. You cannot have a sensible discussion with a True Believer.”
I already replied IN DETAIL ABOUT THE PORTUGAL DRUG PROGRAM, WITH WHICH I HAVE NO PROBLEM, in a thread under an article Admin posted, “We Can’t Afford Wars on Drugs and Terrorism.” Then you submit yet another link to an article on the same fucking Portugal drug program on this post and slam me for not answering immediately while I’m at the bottom of a scrum pile. World class cheap shot when you already had my answer.
Well, “the spook” also asked YOU some questions back on the “We Can’t Afford….” article, which you totally ignored. Here’s a copy and paste of my questions to you, Novista.
1. What is your answer for international treaties that the U.S. has signed against drug trafficking? Abrogation? If your answer is abrogation, then please explain how this would work in the U.S. Senate and the White House, where the percentage of abrogation of such treaties is FUCKING ZERO.
2. Will drug production, transportation, and sales be a taxable private enterprise, as it is now in most states for alcohol and tobacco (some states have state-run stores for sales of alcoholic beverages), or will it be a federal or state government program?
3. Who will be legally eligible to buy drugs? In most states, it’s 21 for booze and 18 for tobacco. Pick a number. I can see it now. “If you’re old enough to fight for your country, you’re old enough to snort coke.”
4. Please explain how “ineligible” young people will be prevented from buying drugs “before their time”? It isn’t working well with legal substances like alcohol and tobacco, much less illegal drugs. Why would it work any better with legal drugs? Is boredom or lack of a thrill your answer? The kids are saying, “Oh, legal drugs are so yesterday. Just like booze and smokes. Why bother.” Yeah, right.”
Colma, if I took this seriously I wouldn’t be conversing with a Jerk. It’s just entertainment.
RE
RE:
That’s MR. JERK to you, ya two-bit doom jockey. I’m off to a show…
Enjoy yourself!
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There’s plenty of action for you on the news wires…
Fuck the banks !!!!
I forgot to add that Admin will edit my posts and add his own witty remarks into them. ‘What a brilliant guy.
RE
RE:
Cry me a fucking river.