Stucky Q.O.T.D. — Commies vs Land Of The Free

The rush of Americans migrating to Russia is in a traffic jam right now. There are so many that they have collapsed the transportation system to Russia. Don’t let that discourage you . Start the process before they stop us from leaving the USA.

unsure on the freedom construct but ,I can list several things that have changed in the ussa
When I was in school ,Im 49, there was no rule on carrying a pocketknife, a good bit of the class had hunting rifles in their car AT SCHOOL . And yet ,knife fights or gun use was nonexistent at school , What changed ? Those that wished to shape an agenda , is what changed . Who are these ,for lack of a better word ,pieces of shit , that would subjugate the entire world to their view .
I could go on and on. Peel that friggen onion.

I’m just a farmboy from Minnesota, who hadn’t been to Chicago when I first went to Russia in ’99. I’ve been told many times by Russians how lucky I was to make it to my destination without getting robbed, or worse, traveling alone. I went with just enough knowledge to be dangerous to myself. Since then, I’ve been there a few times, met the best thing to happen to me, and married her. Things I know as facts: 1) Russians have owned their homes since the mid 90’s at least. Until the last few years those homes were condos within publicly owned buildings. I visited a dentist to have a tooth fixed once. His office was within his home. The building was likely built in the 60’s or 70’s, and looked run down. Inside his home, everything was new. Business owners often live next door to grandma’s living on their government provided pension, which women get at 55. 2) Peter the Great started the internal passport everyone blames on the Communists. He needed a cheap, reliable workforce to do the real work of his vast plans. All children still need to have a valid address. But that’s supposed to give them protection from having their home sold from under them. When my wife sold her condo, she had to register them in her parent’s home, or the government wouldn’t recognize the sale. Having said that, Russians are much better at working the system that Americans. Russian criminals learned how to pass ownership of property through six, eight , or ten names, and cloud who really owned illegally gained real estate. O, by the way, real estate in major Russian cities is expensive. Like the Chinese, Russians don’t trust banks much, so they buy condos as savings accounts. 3) There is a welfare system in Russia, though it is much weaker than it was during Soviet times. There is still free medical care, though lines can be long, and you often have to buy your own medicine. At least the medicine is much cheaper than here. The free childcare is much harder to find now, though the government is making some progress there. 4) Owning a business in Russia is harder than here, but not by much. They do have to deal with petty government officials extorting bribes, but not serious trouble unless someone much richer is eyeing their business. My wife’s former sister-in-law runs a small business with her sister. They have what would qualify as upper middle class lifestyles here, and travel outside the country far more than most Americans can afford. 5) The Russian income tax system is a flat tax, which I believe to be somewhere between 13 to 16%.

Now, a couple opinions. Life is still a little better in America. Russian media is likely more free to report what they want, and children live much more like we did decades ago. Life is also less controlled by the government. But that is a two way street. The US has become a nanny state, while Russian life often seems much closer to what Libertarians often say they want. I had to learn to push into line just like everyone else, and Russian drivers ignore the traffic controls. There’s two lanes marked on a road, but enough asphalt for five, so they create six lanes. On the other hand, once a Russian considers you a friend, he or she will treat you like family. If you have a problem, it becomes their problem too. That was one of the ways they survived through the late Eighties and Nineties. Americans just keep becoming more and more isolated. Even families are isolated. How many Americans can bring three generations together to solve an emergency? Finally, the Soviet Union wasn’t Communist. It was ruled with a velvet gloved, iron hand, by the Communist Party. But it was never really Communist. People got paid, and they bought things with their wages. Some could even afford a crappy Lada. Communism is impossible for humans. One set of us don’t want to work for the group, while another set is very happy to suck of the government teat. From everything I’ve learned, what they really had was a massive corporate controlled economy, and they failed because they couldn’t feed themselves with their corporate farms, and couldn’t pay back their foreign loans with the inefficiently produced, crappy, goods. Now, our corporate farms can still feed us, though I shudder to think what’s in a lot of what we’re sold. But we are quickly becoming a corporate controlled economy, and who says we won’t end up the same way?

Now, a couple

Stucky you absolutely lost this debate at my first post, likewise, it’s foolish to call these obviously intelligent commentators bipolar pinheads. Take your Aricept and you feel better tomorrow.

Stucky- And nobody fucking “forced” you to put up a list that makes you look like a fukwit. You would not last two months in Russia before you would become a whiney little bitch wanting to come home. We should buy you a one way ticket so you can have at it and get your gut full.

I have posted many many times that this country is OCCUPIED by a Marxist regime. Pointing out that the occupiers are moving us in the direction of the Soviet model as if it is what America wants is insulting. Take a moment to realize what you are saying. Oreo and his posse are Marxists, we know what they are up to, not a surprise.

Just barging in here to say, it looks like a few adults who have firsthand experience in Russia and America have sufficiently addressed this issue, and this thread has devolved into mildly entertaining though stalemate cockfight.
Y’all can go home now.

I am……….

Going to blow chunks. Give it up, you lost.

Joo Jersey is a far cry from Valhalla. This proves you are delusional.