ANDY GRIFFITH VS THE PATRIOT ACT

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AC
AC
December 5, 2015 6:59 pm

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Left a comment
Left a comment
December 5, 2015 7:16 pm

Andy Griffith show vs Patriot Act or A Face In the Crowd vs Patriot Act. Same actor, different characters.

Maggie
Maggie
December 5, 2015 8:38 pm

EC… if you have to try to intimidate poor Jfish who has gallantly offered to fight trolls for me, at least do it on some lameass thread about the time Opie recorded the confession at the jail and Andy had too much integrity to listen.

Give Hardscrabble Farmer’s wonderful prose the respect it deserves.

Jfish, go on and tell the trolls what you will do to them. C’mon. I do NOT get creeped out easy. I had to do horrid things in survival school and never once got creeped out. Well, once, but having to walk blindfolded to empty our latrine cans was pretty creepy shit, no pun intended.

Am calling it a day to go watch old Sci Fi movies with my beloved Nick and make fun of them. It is Saturday night and that’s what we do for fun.

Jfish
Jfish
December 5, 2015 9:10 pm

Good for you Maggie. Not worried bout you being creeped out. I have read your posts, and U seem like one tough lady. Even still, allow me to be your Trollslayer if (when) I can. Truth is, I am “Opie” but all grown up & perhaps slightly more badass. Sci Fi rocks. & making fun of old sci-fi movies is one of the minor pleasures in life. Enjoy your night. 🙂

cz
cz
December 5, 2015 9:21 pm

What left a comment posted is the truth. For example: Y’all think cronkite was some unbiased, concerned journalist? He was a piece of shit tool. How many times was he voted most trusted man? Black is white in a luciferian order.
Peeps need to grow up. We wake up little bits at a time, and sometimes how we grow up is surprising.

cz
cz
December 5, 2015 9:41 pm

Dear Admin, unrelated but…
I asked a couple months ago why kathleen kane was in the news every stinkin day on the npr affiliate here in Pittsburgh, and though there was a lull, the story is now and has been full steam ahead since.
If she has incriminating evidence that idiot judges/politicians/cronies were sending out pornographic emails, I hope heads roll.
That being said, my dad and i agree that we would….

Left a comment
Left a comment
December 5, 2015 9:48 pm

I have high functioning aspergers/autism. I have feelings too. I am sorry for what I’ve done and wont post again. I have learned much, and I wish everyone the best.

cz
cz
December 5, 2015 9:51 pm

Left a comment,
What are you talking about? Your comments are great. Don’t go away.

Jfish
Jfish
December 5, 2015 10:53 pm

To Left a Comment & CZ:

Isaiah 5:20 says; “Woe to those who call evil good & good evil, who put darkness for light & I light for darkness…”

Also to Left a Comment: maybe “high functioning Aspergers / Autism” merely makes you a genius. Have you ever thought of that?

B brave & keep posting. Hold your head high.

U R cool.

Nite…

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
December 5, 2015 11:23 pm

Alright, whose the mother lovin, ass-chasing, beer chuggin, hetero-fucking-sexual who pissed off Left a comment?

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 12:27 am

Not me! I am still processing Andy Griffith as an evil bastard. Thanks Left a Comment for expanding my world…

gm
gm
December 6, 2015 2:14 am

don’t go left a comment , I know I read what you write , and can completely relate to asberger/autism actually . for some reason )

Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 3:04 am

Dear Left a Comment, I believe I inadvertently hurt your feelings when I called this post lameass as joking invite to EC and my newly recruited Trollwarrior to come over here and continue the bickering.

I also like your comments and feel that you contribute greatly. The reason I chose this thread was EXACTLY because I hoped that by bringing our little silly antics here, others might see both the Andy Griffith clip and that fascinating clip you posted as well. As a matter of fact, I plan on getting the Face in the Crowd downloaded tonight so I can watch the whole show/movie. I had NO IDEA. What a great actor Andy Griffith was… but which role was the act?

As for your aspergers/autism? you are way more interesting and coherent than some of the SFMs around here.

Come back.

Oh, and Jfish… this is just a SAMPLE of our MST3K collection of VHS and DVD sets from the barn. We haven’t unpacked all of them, but he hadda have some to get us through last winter.

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Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 3:06 am

Because, with all DUE RESPECT to HSF… sometimes when he posts one of his masterpieces, a very good post like this one with a very interesting message gets lost in the crowd.

Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 3:10 am

EC, Look what I did! I chased off a perfectly decent human being.

Is where I got your photo, by the way.
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gm
gm
December 6, 2015 3:34 am

Maggie , what is SFM? sorry im stupid tomight lol

MST omg I used to laugh at that show )

Also , because im not sure I understand, what is considered a troll ? I mean in posting on forums?
pardon me if im ate up with stupid tonight lol

Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 4:03 am

Shit flinging Monkeys, of which I am NOT normally ONE, but when some idiot troll* comes on, I will join in with the rest if necessary to get it out.

*EC will be along shortly to correct me on my troll definition, but here goes… A troll is someone who tries to disrupt the discussion or conversation underway on forums and blogs by interjecting comments that are derogatory about the other commenters and have almost no relevance to the issue under discussion. They seem intent on making sure that they take the intellectual fun out of the debate/discussion for everyone by hurting feelings or making someone angry enough to start a shit flinging fest.

EC is in rehab from trolldom and is commenting quite nicely. I’m very proud of his progress and hope this doesn’t trigger a relapse.

MST3K went off the SciFi channel and left us without Saturday morning entertainment. (It came on at 8 a.m. Saturdays and we would have breakfast with our 8 year old son in the floor in front of the TV to riff it with either Joel or Mike and the “bots.”

Favorites? Prince of Space. Any Godzilla riff and Manos:Hands of Fate.

gm
gm
December 6, 2015 4:28 am

ty did you ever watch LEXX ? I got the whole series tho havnt finished it yet due to various circumstances kids etc , cause it aint appropriate for youngins lol

Anyway tyvm ) I thik I have been a SFM at one time or another and sorry if I offended anybody , I try much harder now to post better .
Gm out ,work is a pita so I m a day late on all topics , covering for another manager for a few more days .

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
December 6, 2015 9:00 am

I loved that show growing up and thought that it was the high water mark of what television could be- telling Aesop like fables in front of a camp fire. Values imparted, morality reinforced, kindness and caring lifted up. Those things simply do not exist today. Imagine if it was oriented to the highest ideals, as a means of educating and enlightening rather than debasing and mocking.

I though Face In The Crowd was a horrible movie, but I never liked Kazan’s anti-American attitude. Yes, it’s the down to earth, wholesome country boy who is the evil one, not the proto-feminist shrike played by Patricia Neal whose voice sounds like she licks ashtrays and is about as appealing as Bruce Jenner. The ones who corrupt are seen as the saviors, while the rest of America are just stupid proles to be manipulated and defamed. Griffith was great in that role which was really just a re-tread of Meet John Doe, a much better version.

Kazan was the ur-SJW/communist who hated everything the US stood for- look at his filmography. It’s impossible for me to watch his stuff without feeling just how hard I’m being preached to and manipulated. I don’t think he missed a single one of the Social Justice platforms from feminism/abortion and racism to homosexuality and antisemitism all at the expense of the WASP culture that admittedly was the salvation of the Kazan family when they came as refugees. Nothing but tropes, all of them designed to tear at the fabric of America.

I just don’t get it. Instead of being grateful for their salvation they resent the people who gave them an opportunity to such a degree that everything has to be wrecked. It reminds me of the recent pics of refugees leaving huge piles of garbage in the cemeteries of Eastern Europe as a thank you for the hospitality.

Just imagine what he could have left as a legacy if he had been grateful and held America up for all of it’s goodness and promise.

Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 9:24 am

I’d never seen it, which is why I suggested Admin put the link up on its own. I felt similar to the time I walked up to David Boren on campus and asked him a question about being in Congress and realized what a dope I was.

We have all been had.

OldeVirginian
OldeVirginian
December 6, 2015 9:36 am

I see now why -they- rubbed out Andy a few years back. Somebody stumbled over this footage…

@Maggie. A few days ago you responded kindly to one of my occasional comments here at TBP. Typically I get nothing but crickets because I suspect my understated sense of humor and faint sarcasm escapes a lot of the other readers…

Anyway — I bow at your feet now madame for seeing that cache of MSTK3 in your doomsday kit.

Several decades ago when I was a young parent we had cable but I rarely watched TV. On the occasional night when my bride would banish me to the couch (or was I banishing myself 🙂 ) I would turn on the TV muted and flip through channels. I’d occasionally see MSTK3 and think “what a dumb puppet show” or “what’s up with the silhouettes in the movie theatre?” I had no freaking idea what monumentally magisterial mockery was in the riffing BECAUSE I NEVER TURNED THE SOUND UP!!! EPIC FAIL for me!

Just a few years ago when bored “flipping channels” in netflixx I decided to watch an MSTK3 episode with the sound on. I was converted for life. These guys were doing what I had always done with cheesy movies and they were almost as cynical as I am haha.

Sometimes when this old world starts getting me down, I just flip on Manos and I realize that humanity’s always had foible baked right into the cake.

Coincidentally,TV’s Frank is a ringer for an old boss of mine from many decades back.

God bless.

OldeVirginian
OldeVirginian
December 6, 2015 9:41 am

By which I mean to imply… you have to wonder if the whole of our existence isn’t just a poorly made simulation when one of the gods made a bet with another he could create a planet with “intelligent life” on it. Here we are in all our B-movie splendor…

I also meant to throw in… for my entertainment on the BIG, BIG, BIG screen — I see the keystone commies are weaving some lovely chemtrails off to the south of my home here in southwest VA. Ya know, I thought there were just too many stars showing last night and it was time somebody put a nice smear across all this blue sky…

Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 9:51 am

@OldeVirginian, thank you for that. We much prefer the Newer versions with Mike and Pearl, though there are some gems in the Joel days. Like I said, Saturday morning was MST3K must see TV and when SciFi cancelled it, we started collecting seasons sold on Ebay, Craig’s list and when friends asked me “what did I want for Christmas/birthday?” Well, there’s this silly set of MST3K DVDs I’d LOVE to have….

Nick stumbled onto someone selling about a hundred or so in white sleeves that were numbered but not titled for about $20. It was a fairly simple matter to get the “list” of episodes and name them ourselves.

There are a few stinkers, but by and large, the riffing is well done and the sarcasm well done. My favorite female heroine? The femme fa tale from The Screaming Skull, the movie where Croe orders and receives his free coffin.

AND, it has the wonderful short Gumby and Pokey’s Robot Rumpus. Yes, we are set for entertainment for TEOTWAWKI.

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Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 9:51 am
Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 1:28 pm

Amazing, Maggie! By transplanting EC & me from the HSF “wasp” post to this one, the denouement of this thread has been incredible. From the “sound of silence” to MST3K! Wow! It just doesn’t get any better than that! Hopefully Left a Comment will understand the conversation was a merely a continuation & realize his contributions are valued. I was kind of wondering what happened, but then reading today, I get it. Nice

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 1:31 pm

Nice video library, BTW! I wish I was so prepared for the post-apocalypse! Take care

EL Cibernetico
EL Cibernetico
December 6, 2015 1:55 pm

Jfish, you see Maggie’s diversion as a successful move, I see it as control.

Escorted away from an HSF post? I’ve been kicked out of better places.

To quote the Beautiful Blonde, I don’t walk on eggshells for anybody.

Fuck that shit. If this place is becoming so fucking polite that I have to keep quiet while the respectable people converse. FUCK THAT SHIT.

Now I see why Left a comment left.

Excoooooose the fuck out of me, maybe I’ll take a shower before I come here next time.

Where the FUCK is STUCKY with his horse tales? Maybe I will be allowed to comment on his article if it isn’t too fucking serious to tolerate my stupid comments!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come back, Stucky, Do it for me old pal. I haven’t a friend left here.

Dammit, where is LLPOH, bb, BW..?

EL Cibernetico
EL Cibernetico
December 6, 2015 2:09 pm

This is exactly why I hate Thanksgiving, I always got stuck at the kiddie table because I could mind my manners or otherwise did not fit in with the respectable crowd.

And you fuckers talk about religious types!

You have your own religion, it’s called polite society.

Going back under the bridge, sorry if my conversion failed.

EL Cibernetico - a pack of one
EL Cibernetico - a pack of one
December 6, 2015 2:13 pm
Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 2:19 pm

Ah, shit… I knew it would trigger a relapse. Dammit.

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 2:35 pm

El Ciber – Ayn Rand always advised to: “Check your premises”. Maggie could only ” control” me, if I didn’t have a choice. It’s called free fuckin will. Google it. In Kurt Vonnegut’s “welcome to the Monkey House” – he qoutes a guy by the name of Horace Wallpole who once claimed: “Love may fail, but courtesy will prevail”. I can see you are proud to be a badass & all that, but if you don’t get this, then bite me…

EL Cibernetico
EL Cibernetico
December 6, 2015 4:43 pm
Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 5:05 pm

Just watched the entire 14 minutes. Loved it. It’s very gratifying to see a good ass kicking. However, I still believe that ‘logic” must prevail over brute force? Time will tell. In the meantime, and on this same note, I keep asking myself why a fucking collapsible table was in the middle of the fucking ring? Think about it. Just sayin… Oh…and by the way…I hope you have a very nice rest of your day! TTYL motherfucker

EL Cibernetico
EL Cibernetico
December 6, 2015 5:12 pm

Jfish, if you weren’t one of Maggies’s Minions I could maybe like you just for knowing good wrasselin. We grew up in Texas, weaned on regional wrestling before it got commercialized by McMahon.

Dammit, I posted a short recollection of Ricky Romero and El Cyclon Negro, can you believe nobody here replied or knew WTF I was talking about? I’m talking about wrestling, assholes! Good old fashioned nuts in your face, manly-man conflict resolution.

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 5:19 pm

I grew up in Iowa. I wrestled since I was in 7th grade. Had a lifetime winning record. I’m met Dan Gable when I was in high school when he came to visit our team. Dan G is now married to the sister of my sister-in-law & I see him at funerals, anniversaries & such. I get what you said ’bout Maggie & I’ve been thinking about your words today. Guess I am a sucker for the ladies. I always choose the treat them with kindness

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 5:20 pm

It’s probably my kryptonite. My deal, I guess. Later…

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 5:35 pm

I guess I also felt bad for Left a Comment when he mentioned his struggles with Asperger’s. I am sympathetic to people who struggle problems like this as well. It doesn’t make me a “pussy” (or a minion) tho. Got it? In any case, this post is getting ancient – so will probably meet up with you on another one down the road…

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
December 6, 2015 5:57 pm

Stucko will be back, imo, sometimes you gotta take a break.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
December 6, 2015 6:02 pm

Ayn Rand was a neoliberal. Laissez Faire Let Them Eat Cake type shit and a horrible fiction writer.

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 6:03 pm

Long live the Mighty Quinn. Long live the Indomitable Stuck. Sometime someone let me know what imo means. R, I’ll just ask my kids…

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 6:09 pm

Kill B – I dont drink kool-aid. But like Ayn said: “Check your premises”. Nothing wrong with this. That’s all I was sayin’…

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 6:14 pm

And – you have to give her some respect for AR’s advocation of the “individual” = the smallest minority in the world. Plus her vocabulary was much bigger than mine, so I feel like I should give her some props on that as well. You look at it how you want and I will too, K?

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
December 6, 2015 6:15 pm

Sorry, dont disagree with the saying….just never been an Ayn Rand fan.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
December 6, 2015 6:17 pm

No. I do not have to give her respect for that is earned, not given.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
December 6, 2015 6:19 pm

But if I were to meet Ayn Rands worm riddled ghost, I would have common courtesy in our discussion, but thats not likely to happen.

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 6:28 pm

KB – I get it. She was avowed atheist, so the “ghost worms” are probably an accurate portrayal. Yet her philosophy represents the heart of evangelical conservatives. It’s a flippin’ paradox, ya know? I hope to someday figure it out? But, I M not even close at this point. Respect 2 U.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
December 6, 2015 6:37 pm

Not much to figure out Jfish she is the antithesis of evangelicals. Selfishness she called “individualism”

I know of no evangelical that promoted greed and selfishness under the guise of individualism…well maybe besides Pat “Diamond Mine” Robertson. Or those other frauds of his ilk, like Mammon, desired riches.

WTFU.

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 6:52 pm

She also quoted Nietzsche – ( while at the same time disqualifying his overall philosophical construct) – by stating that the “noble soul has reverence for itself” – (or something similar to that). She is also the founder of “objectivism”. I get where you’re coming from – & please know but I am past my teenage years and, therefore, do have empathy for others. This means I’m not a disciple, per say to Ayn Rand. But at the same time you have to admit today’s world does look like Atlas Shrugged? Maybe you don’t see it that way

Jfish
Jfish
December 6, 2015 6:55 pm

Is fine. In any case, the discourse with you has been very enjoyable. I have enjoyed your posts for sometime. Maybe, if only, cuz I am also a Quentin Tarantino fan? 🙂 later..

Maggie
Maggie
December 6, 2015 6:57 pm

EC? Minions? I have minions?

Interesting discussion about Rand; sorry I missed it, but I had hostas to divide and transplant. The flower beds aren’t going to plant themselves.

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