In the David Stockman article one of TBP’s readers — a fellow named Tom — rebutted Stockman’s thesis that we have nothing to fear from Islamic terrorism and, that Trump is engaged in fear-mongering.
Several people felt that it deserved to be it’s own thread. Admin has too many responsibilities and too little time to attend to such things. I have no life at all so, here it is. (MANY kudos to TOM!!)
Note: Tom is correct. Stockman is wrong. Islam by it’s very nature and the words in its own holy book dictate that it can not be changed to reflect Western values. There will not be, nor can there be, an Islamic Reformation to make it more palpable, more reasonable, or more humane. For those of you who are new here, I make my case for this belief in an article I wrote six months ago — “Why Islam Lops Off Heads, Christianity Doesn’t, and Trump Is Right” — here
I think Terminator Genisys has the perfect summary if Islam.
Again, following is Tom’s response. (I only added some formatting, minor spelling corrections, and extra paragraph breaks to make it easier to read.)
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I am not a Trump detractor. Honestly, there are other people I would prefer to be our president, but Ron Paul did not run and Rand Paul lost. Mr. Stockman’s assessment was most interesting. His statements are contradicted by the reality of world events. The list below is partial list of terror attacks that occurred in July, 2016. These are not crimes (theft, honor killings, stoning women for being raped). These are attacks that occurred lat month:
Date Country City Killed/Injured —- Description
2016.07.14 Philippines Manilop 3/0
—–Three off-duty soldiers are ambushed and killed by Abu Sayyaf while buying food.
2016.07.14 France Nice 84/202
—– A Muslim migrant mows down eighty-four Bastille Day revellers (including ten children) with a truck while shouting praises to Allah.
2016.07.13 Iraq Rashidiya 7/11
—– Seven Iraqis are laid out by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2016.07.12 Iraq Baghdad 12/37
—– A dozen people at a vegetable and fruit market are reduced to pulp by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2016.07.11 Iraq Qayara 9/0
—– Women and the elderly are among nine members of two families dragged from their homes and executed by ISIS.
2016.07.11 Iraq Nineveh 4/0
—– Four doctors are beheaded by the Islamic State.
2016.07.11 Somalia Lanto Buro 11/6
—– At least eleven others are killed by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
2016.07.10 Syria Aleppo 5/61
—– al-Nusra members sends a barrage of explosives into a residential neighborhood, laying out five civilians.
2016.07.10 Afghanistan Kandahar 3/6
—– Three children are ripped apart by Taliban shrapnel.
2016.07.10 Iraq Fallujah 46/0
—– Forty-six Sunnis are burned alive by Hashd al-Shaabi, a Shiite milita.
2016.07.10 India Kashmir 3/96
—– At least three security personnel are killed by a Muslim mob, angered over the death of a terrorist.
2016.07.10 Nigeria Benue 81/0
—– The death toll from two weeks of rolling Fulani attacks on peaceful farming communities rises to over 80.
2016.07.10 Syria Raqqa 5/0
—– Five civilians are beheaded in front of their families by the Islamic State.
2016.07.09 Libya Sirte 7/3
—– A secret ISIS prison is unearthed with seven bodies and three surviving torture victims.
2016.07.09 Bangladesh Kajura 0/1
—– A Catholic nurse is set on fire by suspected Religion of Peace operatives.
2016.07.09 Mali Koro 2/0
—– Two guards at a checkpoint are machine-gunned point-blank by suspected Jihadis.
2016.07.09 Pakistan Islamabad 1/1
—– The wife of a Shiite cleric is gunned down in a targeted attack.
2016.07.09 Iraq Riyadh 3/0
—– Three Kurdish brothers are executed by the Islamic State.
2016.07.09 Iraq Kirkuk 2/2
—– ISIS is suspected of a home invasion in which a moderate cleric and his family member are killed.
2016.07.09 Nigeria Abuja 1/0
—– A female pastor is hacked to death by Muslim radicals who left her severed head on a Bible.
2016.07.09 Nigeria Rann 7/0
—– Boko Haram invade a village, stealing food and gunning down seven residents.
2016.07.08 Syria Tel Abyad 10/11
—– Women and children are among ten taken out by an ISIS suicide bombing at a popular market.
2016.07.08 Syria Aleppo 34/200
—– al-Nusra members send shells into a populated area, killing thirty-four civilians.
2016.07.08 Nigeria Damboa 9/12
—– A suicide bomber strikes a rival mosque, killing at least nine.
2016.07.07 Libya Benghazi 12/35
—– A dozen souls are sent to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2016.07.07 Bangladesh Sholakia 4/12
—– A police officer is hacked to death and a woman is among four total killed by an Islamist attack during Eid prayers
2016.07.07 Iraq Balad 56/70
—– Fifty-six pilgrims are blown up by a Sunni suicide bomb attack on a Shiite shrine.
2016.07.06 Syria Aleppo 3/3
—– Three civilians are flattened by a Sunni mortar barrage.
2016.07.06 Syria al-Zahraa 2/6
—– Two children are turned to paste by a Sunni rocket.
2016.07.06 Iraq Mosul 6/0
—– Six people are beheaded by a Sharia court.
2016.07.06 Yemen Aden 25/8
—– al-Qaeda suicide bombers take out over two dozen local soldiers.
2016.07.06 India Vijaywada 1/0
—– A teen is honor-killed by her conservative Muslim mother for having an affair with a Hindu boy.
2016.07.06 Afghanistan Sancharak 4/1
—– Four family members are wiped out by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2016.07.05 Thailand Songkhla 1/2
—– Muslim ‘insurgents’ place a bomb that kills one other person.
2016.07.05 Iraq Saidiya 3/12
—– Jihadis send mortars into a displaced persons camp, killing three.
2016.07.05 Syria Raqqa 4/0
—– Four popular soccer players are forced to kneel and then shot in the head by caliphate members in front of children.
2016.07.05 Syria Um al-Housh 40/0
—– Women and children are among forty civilians captured and ‘mercilessly’ executed by the Islamic State.
2016.07.05 Somalia Galcad 2/0
—– Two staffers at a telecommunication company are beheaded by al-Shabaab.
2016.07.05 Syria Hassakeh 30/40
—– A suicide bomber massacres thirty innocents outside a Shiite bakery.
2016.07.05 Thailand Bannang Sata 1/0
—– Militant Muslims launch a grenade from an M79 in front of a mosque, killing a passerby.
2016.07.05 Indonesia Surakarta 0/1
—– A suicide bomber detonates in front of a police station.
2016.07.05 DRC Tenambo 9/0
—– Nine Christian villagers are murdered by ADF Islamists.
2016.07.05 Thailand Pattani 1/3
—– A bomb planted by Muslim militants in front of a police station leaves one dead.
2016.07.04 Saudi Arabia Medina 4/5
—– Four guards are killed by a suicide bomber outside Islam’s second holiest mosque.
2016.07.04 Iraq Sharqat 7/0
—– The Islamic State boils seven members alive.
2016.07.04 Saudi Arabia Jeddah 0/2
—– A suicide bomber detonates near the US embassy.
2016.07.04 Iraq Baghdad 2/9
—– A bomb near a popular market leaves two dead.
2016.07.04 Iraq Tal Kaif 3/0
—– Three Kurds are executed by the Islamic State.
2016.07.03 Iraq Arabi 2/0
—– A father and son are executed by the Islamic State after three months in captivity.
2016.07.03 Thailand Pattani 1/2
—– One person is killed by a bomb left outside a mosque.
2016.07.03 Syria Raqqa 1/0
—– A man is beheaded for ‘mocking Islam’.
2016.07.03 Thailand Yala 2/0
—– Two civilians are neatly taken out by Muslim bombers.
2016.07.03 Iraq Kirkuk 7/0
—– Seven civilians are executed by caliphate members.
2016.07.03 Libya Banghazi 2/7
—– An ISIS car bomb explodes in a busy district, killing two traffic cops.
2016.07.03 Iraq Shaab 5/16
—– Jihadis set off a bomb in a commercial district that claims five lives.
2016.07.03 Iraq Karrada 308/246
—– A Fedayeen suicide bomber detonates in a shopping mall packed with Shiites, slaughtering over three hundred, including many children.
2016.07.03 Libya Benghazi 2/0
—– A car bombing leaves two dead.
2016.07.02 Somalia Baidoa 2/19
—– Two girls, ages 4 and 5, are disintegrated by an al-Shabaab mortar round.
2016.07.02 Afghanistan Khorasan 3/0
—– Video shows three ‘apostates’ executed to religious music by child soldiers.
2016.07.02 Afghanistan Khakrez 4/0
—– Four people are taken out by a Taliban bomb blast.
2016.07.02 Bangladesh Satkhira 0/1
—– A Hindu priest is stabbed at a bakery by Muslim extremists.
2016.07.02 Afghanistan Jalalabad 2/17
—– A Shahid suicide bomber on a motorbike kills two bystanders.
2016.07.02 Syria Elkheir 1/0
—– A man is brutally beheaded for ‘pledging to infidels’.
2016.07.01 Iraq Tuz Khormato 2/4
—– A suicide attack at a Shiite mosque leaves two dead.
2016.07.01 Bangladesh Dhaka 22/26
—– Seven terrorists take hostages at a restaurant and summarily execute all who cannot quote from the Quran.
2016.07.01 Syria Damascus 1/0
—– A pilot is murdered by Jaish-al-Islam.
2016.07.01 Afghanistan Shahwali Kot 7/0
—– Three woman are among a family of seven murdered in their home by Sunni militants.
2016.07.01 Afghanistan Kandahar 5/0
—– Five local cops are gunned down by the Taliban.
2016.07.01 Somalia Mogadishu 1/0
—– A moderate cleric is shot to death by more-radical co-religionists.
2016.07.01 Israel Hebron 1/3
—– Palestinians fire on a family’s vehicle, killing the father and injuring his wife and two children.
2016.07.01 Bangladesh Jhenaidah 1/0
—– A Hindu temple worker is hacked to death.
2016.07.01 Kenya Wak 6/2
—– Children are among six people on a bus brutally machine-gunned by religious radicals.
2016.07.01 Iraq Baghdad 5/30
—– Five people lose their lives to a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
My favorite on this list was “2016.07.04 Iraq Sharqat 7 0 The Islamic State boils seven members alive.” Mr Stockman, the behavior of those in the religion of peace contradicts every point that you claim that supports your argument that Trump is a fear mongerer. If Trump is a fear mongerer you are an ill informed Islamic apologist that has a well earned bias against politicians.
Though now retired my background is in medicine as a researcher and practitioner. My most revealing moments occurred as a researcher when the discovery that a well written article can totally obfuscate the truth so that the patent drug companies can capture billions in profit. Stockman’s post is proof that a good writer can present a vapid position that betrays the facts.
Below is a brief history I put together regarding how Islam got started. I performed this research in an attempt to discover the religion of peace at its roots, believing the principles upon which a movement is formed is important. I wanted to understand how a religion that claims to be peaceful could be corrupted to commit the atrocities listed above. I discovered that from the beginning, the religion of peace was anything but peaceful.
Three weeks ago as a diversion from recent orthopedic intervention recovery I took it upon myself to examine Islam to gain a greater understanding of the world’s largest religion. I wanted to learn why they are killing non-Muslims and Muslims based upon their interpretation of the Koran, God, Allah, and destiny.
Following two days of research I am frightened by what I have learned and of how ignorant the west is of Islam. More important, I am frightened by how the we have been addressing our current situation, especially under Barrack Obama. To gain understanding as to why we are losing the terror war I will present an abridged version of how Islam became reality. This information is necessary to increase our understanding of the serious threat that awaits us.
As historically reported, the Prophet Mohammad experienced a revelation from the angel Gabriel that he (Mohammad) was to be the last prophet. He then started preaching in Mecca, recruiting friends, family, and attempting to convert others that he did not know. Mohammad tried for 12 years to spread his religion but he failed. He then decided to go to Medina, which was the Jewish and business hub of Arabia and preach to the Jews. Muhammad believed that if he could convince the Jews of his prophecy he would be able to return to Mecca and convince his people as well. To appeal to the Jews and present himself as the last prophet Muhammad borrowed heavily from the Old Testament, which is why there are so many similarities between Judaism and early Islam. For example: Jews and Muslims do not eat pigs. Jews and Muslims pray a few times per day. Jews fast on Yom Kippur and Muslims fast on Ramadan.
Muhammad’s plan to convince the Jews produced many positive messages in the initial creation of the Koran. Muhammad used this first version of the Koran in an attempt to convince the Jews of the merits of his beliefs and the book. When the Jews refused to accept him as the last of the prophets Muhammad starting killing and expelling the Jews and Islam transformed from a quasi spiritual movement to a political movement cloaked in religion. At that time Mohammed became a military warrior.
That’s when Jews and Christians became Dhimmi or ‘second class citizens.’ That is when Jews and Christians that did not convert to Islam could stay alive only if they paid the Jizya, which was a protection tax. If you paid the protection tax and lived you were referred to as Dhimmi, a second class person that was permitted to remain alive. As Dhimmi, Christians could not ring the church bells, Christians and Jews could not pray publicly, gather publicly, or build new temples or churches. The Jews paid the Jiyza protection tax at a once per month gathering/ceremony where the Jew would kneel and hand his payment to the Mullah. In many areas Jews and Christians were given necklaces to wear as proof that they paid the Jiyza protection tax. Jews were referred to as Najisah, which in Arabic means urine, stool, blood, corpse, etc.
As Islam grew more people became second class citizens or Dhimmi. If a Jew was walking on the same side of the street as a Muslim, the Jew had to cross the street so the Muslim avoided contact with the ‘filthy Jew.’
Jews and Christians were forced to wear clothing that identified them. For example, the yellow star was an Islamic creation in the 9th Century by the second Caliph of Iran and was not originally created by Germans. Christians were forced to wear a special belt referred to as a ‘Zunar’.
The Crusades were launched to liberate Jerusalem because of this treatment of Christians. After 300 years the Crusaders failed and dissipated because they could not defeat Islam. Islam spread to India, China, and central Europe. By 1600, Islam covered more surface area of the globe than the Roman Empire at its peak. As Islam conquered more nations, the amount received from the Jizya protection tax grew and so did the Islamic empire.
Between 1600 and 1800 Europe was experiencing the industrial revolution where factory lines spurred production and innovation. The Europeans became prosperous and were now capable of mounting a formidable military. The Muslims were stopped at the gates of Vienna on September 11, 1683.
The date 9/11 (Stockman take note) takes on significant meaning to Muslims as that was the day the Muslim hordes that marched on Vienna were defeated. Osama Bin laden knew this history when he orchestrated the terror attacks on 9/11. After 270 million people were killed by Muslims around the world, in 1924 the Islamic empire or Caliphate ended in Turkey.
Caliphate refers to the Islamic steward of an area, a Caliph that would provide Islamic oversight to an area of the world. Today as it was throughout history, the globe is the objective of the Caliphate, where one Islamic prophet will rule. These events ended less than 100 years ago!
I did not know this information. Most of us are ignorant of these facts. This is one reason why we lack insight into our current situation and why Mr. Stockman’s rant is a well written ill informed puff piece attack on Trump.
After the Caliphate ended in 1924 everyone believed that the Caliphate would never return and that Muslims would never again attempt to dominate the world through force. Unfortunately, two events occurred to destroy those beliefs. The first event was the discovery of oil in Saudi Arabia, which we stupidly allowed the Saudis to nationalize. The second event, which is much more important, was Ayatollah Khomeini coming to power in 1979 under President Jimmy Carter. These two events gave Muslims the money and the spiritual cover to promote Islam’s return and to seek the Caliphate, an Islamic world. Isis is not a new invention. They are certainly not the JV team as the president idiotically described. Isis has resurrected the Caliphate that ended 100 years ago.
If we are to survive as non-Muslims, there are two things I discovered that must be understood about the Islamic beliefs of war. First is the Law of Takiya, lying to achieve the objective of the Caliphate. Takiya allows a Muslim man to lay his hand on the Koran and lie, knowing that he will be forgiven because he advances the cause of Islam.
The second important point to know is the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah, which provides a model to deceive the enemy after agreements and treaties are established. The Hudaybiyyah treaty was for ten years between Muhammad and the Medinas (Jews). Two years later when Muhammad was strong enough he attacked Medina. This is an Islamic principle of war.
Does the ten year term for a treaty ring a bell? It is the same term as the treaty that President Obozo made with Iran for the nuclear weapons treaty/agreement. The treaty signed with Iran is meaningless and nullified by this Islamic principle of war. Remember Yassir Arafat and the Oslo Accord with Israel? When the Jordanian and Egyptian press asked Arafat why he would sign a treaty with the devil (the Jews) Arafat’s response was, “Remember Hudaybiyyah.” Eight years after signing the Accord, after the accumulation of sufficient weapons and sufficient personnel Arafat declared the second Intifada. Iran has revealed the idiot in the Oval Office as a total moron with this treaty. Will we or Israel be attacked with nuclear weapons in the future? Count on it!
I do not know why the administration and the media engage in concealing these Islamic foundations, the principles upon which Islam is built. I found out this information after two days of confinement due to stem cell injections in my spine, knee, and shoulder. Is the president too ideologically invested in Islam? His inability to speak the words ‘Islamic Radical’ is proof that he is either too stupid or too biased to see reality.
I do not know Stockman’s motivations but they appear similar at their roots. The administration’s order to scrub the words Allah, Islam, Jihad, etc. from law enforcement training manuals, including those of the FBI and Military, is representative of a pathological lack of understanding or a more sinister reason for which I am clueless. Obama’s behavior is definitely a repeat of Nero Fiddling while Rome is burning. Stockman appears to be turning the pages of the sheet music from which Obama is playing.
Islamic clerics all over the world are condoning violence against the infidels (you and me). Many of their publications praised the Orlando attack. They are teaching their children that we are the enemy and that Jews need to be exterminated. How long term is the Islamic view? The radicals have graduation ceremonies for kindergartners where the children are dressed in terrorists’ uniforms with toy guns to insure the future of the Caliphate. They have cartoon contest in Tehran for the best Holocaust cartoon (no mention of this in the Times).
The following links and their images are very graphic. As I researched the Islamist agenda I wanted to understand how primitive and how severely demented these people are and see their extremism first hand. Two weeks ago the religion of peace beheaded a non-believing Canadian in the Philippines (Graphic) as they praised ‘Allah Akbar”
http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/isis-islamic-state-abu-sayyaf-philippines-beheads-decapitates-john-ridsdel-canada-beheading-beheaded-full-uncensored-youtube-video/
If you think beheadings only occur in primitive areas, watch:
http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/woman-beheaded-in-broad-daylight-in-moderate-muslim-nation-while-police-watch/
Below are links that show the Religion of peace stoning women and teens. No feminist protested followed here in the states or in Europe:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4558.htm
http://pamelageller.com/2011/01/islamic-law-horrific-video-of-execution-of-girl-19-stoned-to-death-with-her-lover-for-running-away-f.html/
The left has surprised me. They have become so delusional that I am frightened by how vulnerable they make us to the Islamic Radicals. The left’s poor threat recognition skills are leading us to a disaster. Future radical acts of terror will amplify and intertwine with the economic and social tough times ahead. Civil unrest will spread, especially in Europe and possibly here as well.
I offer these observations only to those people that can examine a different perspective than that which is peddled by the president, the media, and the Stockman’s of the world. This dose of reality is severe medicine and not intended for the faint of heart. Please let me know where I have gone astray. I can use the encouragement.
I’ve long said the “war on terror” is bogus so long as we have porous borders, and that includes keeping out the violent Muzzies. Illegal immigration is illegal, period end of story. If Trump can accomplish sealing our borders then I’m all for it. But that includes H1-B visa workers, which Trump uses in his business.
To the best of my knowledge everything Tom says is correct. Islam was stopped in three major battles, the Battle of Vienna where the Pollock’s and Lithuanians defeated the Moslems, the Battle of Tours in France and the last navel battle using ore powered ships which I forgot the name. Batshit Annie did a piece on it.
Every major Religion in the World is mainly based on the Ten Commandments except Islam. This shows Islam is a Political System and not a religion. Islam poses a major threat to Western civilization which supersedes Politics.
So what. Islam is separated from us by two massive oceans. They can’t walk here, like they can with the EU. They can’t hop on little rafts, either. They have to either be brought here, on purpose, or they have to somehow make their way to mexico/central america and sneak in that way. If we stopped importing them(which is really easy) and we secured our southern border(which, while difficult, is possible) then we would shortly cease to have much to worry about from muslims. Those who currently live here could potentially cause some problems, yes, but the less of them you import, the less the problem grows. Stop subsidizing their existence, the problem shrinks even more. Stop allowing ME money to finance anything in this country, etc.
I don’t like them any more than you guys, but I also don’t think we have much to fear. Every single one of those postings made by the OP can be countered with a dozen or more times some random black or illegal does something similar. In my mind, it doesn’t matter if they do it for their magical sky fairy or because they want your new shoes, you are just as dead.
All of this fear mongering is done to get your support for more bullshit wars in the ME. We have wasted more than enough of our (dwindling) national treasure on this nonsense, and more than enough american lives. Geography and a little common sense will do plenty to “keep us safe” from ISIS.
Last but not least, as this is turning into a long post: If you think ISIS/al CIAda or whatever poses a bigger threat to your life, liberty, or prosperity that the US government then you are no better or smarter than those dumbshits we saw last week holding “im with her” signs.
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Yes? Is that a response to my post? I got 4 down votes and no intelligent responses. Total mind blower.
Is this the incident/lecture of which you speak?
You may wonder why I posted a link to a Barnhardt video about the Vendee Genocide, but this video has the priceless “Cheese-Eating Surrender Monkey” label of the French around the seven minute mark.
“Batshit Annie”. I sincerely hope she wears that term of endearment with pride. Before it’s over I’m sure Ann will be proven to be far more right than wrong!
Stucky, I have a genuine question for you. No shit… a real question that might require you use your spare hand to put on your thinking cap.
Suppose I think could be useful in helping with Trump’s effort against Hillary if I put together a researched article on why it matters and what a bitch she really has been throughout her lifetime. Now, in your honest opinion, is it worth the effort for me to craft the article? Do you really think TBP readers care enough to try to make a difference?
I’m not just tossing turds at you, Stucky. I am genuinely trying to assess if we really might not be able to make a difference.
And, why am I calling YOU out? It is your profanely incessant optimism about Trump that has made me start thinking this way.
I blame you.
Thank you Tom and Stucky for the concise review of Islam that has been excised from American history curricula.
When I read Stockman’s piece, I sensed a certain naïveté as well as a grasping for a reason to reject candidate Trump. I don’t think the urbane Mr. Stockman can stomach Mr. Bigmouth Badass.
Tom, the Left’s alignment and sympathy with Islam certifies its intellectual and moral bankruptcy.
Anyone who still believes the propaganda that “Islam is a religion of peace” and that we only need to worry/deal with the “Radical Jihadist”, you people need to open your eyes and learn the truth.
Here are two videos worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjpcp4gESsU
“Every major Religion in the World is mainly based on the Ten Commandments except Islam.” ——–Roy
You made the same comment in the original thread. This time I will question your analysis.
MAJOR RELIGIONS — 100 million followers or more
Christianity — 2.2 billion
Islam ——– 1.6 billion
Hinduism —– 1.1 billion
Chinese folk religion — 800 million
Buddhism —– 535 million
Taoism ——- 150 million
Shinto ——– 100 million
As far as I know, the bolded religions above are NOT based on the ten commandments.
Also, you say Islam is not based on the ten commandments. First of all neither is Christianity “based” on the ten commandments. Secondly, Islam has counterparts for the 10 commandments … just not all in one place. And one would certainly expect this to be true, since Islam copies from the OT extensively.
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10 Commandments in the OT
1- Thou shall not take any God except one God.
2- Thou shall make no image of God.
3- Thou shall not use God’s name in vain.
4- Thou shall honor thy mother and father.
5- Thou shall not steal.
6- Thou shall not lie or give false testimony.
7- Thou shall not kill.
8- Thou shall not commit adultery.
9- Thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife or
possessions.
10- Thou shall keep the Sabbath holy.
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Counterparts in Islam
1- There is no God except one God (47:19)
2- There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him (42:11)
3- Make not God’s name an excuse to your oaths (2:224)
4- Be kind to your parents if one or both of them attain old age in thy life, say not
a word of contempt nor repel them but address them in terms of honor. (17:23)
5- As for the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands, but those who repent
After a crime and reform shall be forgiven by God for God is forgiving and kind. (5:38 – 39)
6- They invoke a curse of God if they lie. (24:7) Hide not the testimony (2:283)
7- If anyone has killed one person it is as if he had killed the whole mankind (5:32)
8- Do not come near adultery. It is an indecent deed and a way for other evils. (17:32)
9- Do good to your parents, relatives and neighbors. Saying of the Prophet; Muhammad (P) “One of the greatest sins is to have illicit sex with your neighbors wife”. (4:36)
10- When the call for the Friday Prayer is made, hasten to the remembrance of God and leave off your business. (62:9)
I said in general (mainly) is the basic premise of conduct for all Religions. I said nothing about compliance. The US Government has much better compliance with the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto. Pay attention to what they do, not what they say.
If everyone lived by the Tenants of the Ten Commandments Government would be unnecessary. Unfortunately the odds of the sun rising in the West is greater.
My heritage is Anabaptist (Mennonite). I live among the largest Old Order Mennonite contingent in the US north of Harrisburg PA. About one forth have the same family name with many being distant relations. These people live without any modern conveniences and farm with horses. These people have no use for Government and would be much better off without Government. Most live by the tenants of the 10 Commandments.
priceless comments at the 15 minute time frame.
My dearest Maggie,
What makes you think I actually have a free hand? What if I need both hands? Could I still answer questions??
I’ll be more serious in the next post.
All the more reason you should accept a little help to carry the load.
“It is your profanely incessant optimism about Trump that has made me start thinking this way.” ——— Maggie, the bestest friend a Bunny can have
HUH??? Maybe I failed to communicate my true beliefs all these months because English wasn't my first language. Let's clear it up. I am ONLY PARTIALLY OPTIMISTIC about da Donald … about two things.
1. I believe he is very sincere about fixing the immigration problem. I love the very idea of a LITERAL wall … Donald’s Great Wall of Mexico. And as for mooslimfuks? I'm pretty sure that "temporary" ban until we can "figure out who is who" will easily morph into a permanent ban. That would be just beautiful. Remember, the income tax was also supposed to be temporary.
2. I firmly believe — despite all the fucking neocon warmongering cocksuckers in D.C. and Big Business — that Donald will be very very reluctant to keep up the Endless War doctrine. I am especially encouraged that it appears he's willing to stop demonizing Russia … and risking a goddamned nuke war that will wipe us all out.
There's my optimism. Two issues. Big issues to ME.
Otherwise, the guy either a) amuses me with his simplistic views or b) scares me. His love for copfuks and wanting to give them even more power scares the fuck outta me. He may be a billionaire businessman, but I think the average TBP member knows more about economics than he does. He's gonna bring back jobs??? Yeah, riiiight … let Llpoh explain that ridiculous fallacious claim. He wants to spend $500 million on infrastructure (goddamned shovel ready jobs … again!!) AND rebuild America's "depleted" military for an additional billions of dollars AND reduce taxes. Where the fuck is the money coming from he doesn't say. I see even more debt under Donald. He loves Israel waaaaay to much. Fuck oyvey! Does he even know what The Fed has wrought and/or does he even care? I doubt it. Need I go on??
But, here's the thing. HILLCUNT IS EVEN WORSE. That bitch has ZERO things I agree with. The Donald has at least the two very important things I agree with. And that's why me and my house will vote for him.
More coming in a moment …
“I love the very idea of a wall.” -Stuckey
Are you talking about a literal wall such as the Moroccan Wall or a figurative wall with Administrative actions?
I know you’re asking Stucky and I have no idea what his wall preference is but allow me to submit a third option………a wall of hot, supersonic lead/copper.** We could fund it with pay-per-view subscriptions or even allow these first person gamers to pay big bucks for time controlling the robotic Gatling guns!
**I happen to know Stucky does not endorse this option.
“Suppose I think it could be useful in helping with Trump’s effort against Hillary if I put together a researched article on why it matters and what a bitch she really has been throughout her lifetime. —- Maggie, who would eat Bugs Bunny if given the chance
Regarding what a bitch she is …. well, there’s a LOT of documentation about that on the internet, and it’s very easy to find. I was at B&N last weekend and there’s several new books documenting her criminal bitchy-ness. However, that being said, most people are so very very busy in their lives to read books or even excessively long articles. People do love concise summaries in one place.
Regarding why it matters ….. well, you might be onto something there!! I swear on my son’s lives, Maggie … I was thinking along similar lines today. Reading arguments on another thread about certain folks not voting this election — “it doesn’t matter … the 1%ers control everything … the system is too corrupt for any one man to change it … blah blah blah” —– and I just wanted to scream it does matter THIS election . So, yeah, THAT would be a great addition to TBPs store of knowledge.
more coming ….
“Now, in your honest opinion, is it worth the effort for me to craft the article?
—– Maggie, who doesn’t realize she will be reincarnated as a bunny in the next life
Regarding worth the effort —
— only you can answer that. First of all, I don’t know if you’re talking 4 hours or 40 hours … nor do I know what time constraints and other obligations you have.
Me? I usually don’t care that much about the effort it takes. That 3-part series on cars that I did easily took me 50+ hours, probably more. But, I loved every minute of it. Really loved it … so the time involved thingy was inconsequential to me. Not only was I happy that other people would be learning new things, but I, myself, was learning a tremendous amount … much much more than I actually included in the article. In other words, for me, once I start the article the effort is always worth it.
One more coming …
Just days after 9/11, Dubya Shrub and company insisted that an Imam be allowed to soil the National Cathedral with his presence and “prayer” during the memorial service. That should have been the signal to us all that our leaders were clueless. For the next 7 plus years, Commander-in-Chief Shrub took every opportunity to praise the religion of Islam and tell us that the terrorists were an anomaly akin to the KKK’s connection to Christianity. This must have astonished every Mohammadan across the globe. They now knew for certain that Colonel Klink and Sergeant Shultz were who they were up against, whether the battle was fought with rhetoric or arms or around a negotiating table.
The Mohammadans continue to get nothing but confirmation, from the West itself no less, that all of Western Civilization is ready to be conquered. If God allowed itinerant, inbred goat fuckers to punish his own people, the ancient Isrealites, then neither are we safe from a similar fate. In fact, when good people like Tom can lay it out in black and white and still get, at best, a yawn from the general populace, then maybe it’s even likely.
“Do you really think TBP readers care enough to try to make a difference?”
—–Maggie, who can take a joke
Saved the hardest question for last.
In other words, if you make the effort to write the article, you want to know — “At this point, what difference does it make?” 🙂
I’m sure Admin has the same question. And Mike. And Francis. And Robert. And HF. And me. And others who I left out who write original stuff here. Every writer at one time or another, I believe, wonders if what they’re doing amounts to anything concrete, or if it’s just a waste of ink (figuratively). El Coyote, back when he liked me, said that some religious article I wrote brought him here, and TE told me I made a difference. But, at the end of the day, I have no idea whether or not any shit I say has any impact at all for the vast vast majority of people who come here.
So, why write at all? For me, it’s enjoyment. Also, we’re still free enough (for how much longer I don’t know) to call Obama a stupid half-nigger traitor, and that I hope Hillcunt dies of a heart attack today. One must take advantage of such things while one still can.
Lastly … ya gotta have faith. Yes, faith. From Ecclesiastes 11.
“Cast your bread upon the waters, for you will find it after many days.”
… and,
“In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good.”
Maggie, you, others, and me … we’re just sowing seeds. That’s all we’re really called to do. Leave the worry of the harvest in His hands.
Here are some of my Hassenfeffer seeds.
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Okay, I KNOW all that, trust me. I was a writer before I was an editor. I haven’t ALWAYS been a Bunny Slayer.
Well, dahum, had I known that you knew all that, then I could have saved a lot of time by simply writing “Sure, go for it.” Also, if you know all that (actually, “KNOW”), then why ask me a question? Lemme aks you a question; are you hard to live with?
I need to clarify my reply. I KNOW that writers put great effort into what they are compiling because they feel great need to convey information about the chosen subject matter to a reading audience. Someone who has a gift for wordsmithing meaning into phrases when the words otherwise mean little can sometimes make people understand something in a way that is almost inexplicable.
The story of the three little pigs is really just a story about two little pigs who didn’t plan well. But, add a Clinton, um I mean WOLF, willing to destroy their homes and way of lives to get their way and you have a morality story.
I am the pig to which the others will run. But, not all will get in. Narnia is by invitation only.
You can believe nothing muslims tell you, particularly in regard to islam:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/the_taqiyya_factor.html
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/220358/islamic-jihad-and-doctrine-abrogation-raymond-ibrahim
Stockman is, at best, unbelievably ill informed.
The only peaceful muslim, is a dead muslim.
AC, you know how to fight. I would want you on my side when SHTF.
Excellent post. I’ve read the Ottoman Centuries which is fascinating, but also reveals the treachery of the enemy. It’s frightening to see the nation sleeping so, but I have to admit that I was clueless for a long time myself. Thanks for this gem…
http://judymorrisreport.blogspot.in/2015/11/dear-muslims-why-nobody-wants-you-in.html
Dear Muslims: Why Nobody Wants You In Their Country
I read your piece. I don’t disagree with much, but I don’t understand how someone who claims to have studied Islam since 9/11 can possibly think ‘the prophet Mohammed would be appalled by the level of brutality and inhumanity done in the name of his religion’. You apparently need to hit the books some more. The Wahhabism believers, who do most of the terrible things associated with Islam, are doing literally exactly what their prophet told them to do. It’s what their religion tells them they must do.
david overlooks Turkey, no end in sight to their dreams of Ottoman Empire. buddying up to longtime foe russia maybe unwise. have no idea why we still invested so much there once the berlin wall came down, collison of continents, religions and lots of earthquakes. the euporeans appeasing the turks another odd move. the islamic jihad could go big time soon.
If you took the time to watch the video links in the article, even though they are incredibly violent and disgusting, how could you not come to the conclusion that this religion is completely barbaric, backwater and fucked up. It is unbelievable to me that in this day in age countless millions are onboard with Islamic teachings.
“It is unbelievable to me that in this day in age countless millions are onboard with Islamic teachings.”
You just don’t understand the ‘Regressives’.
Well, there was no real reason to go into crazy country. Doing so created a vacuum that, even after trillions of dollars, helped to allow crazy to escape.
I cannot believe this was accidental.
Religion of peace , OK so we just imagine all this shit storm of religious half wits devoted to killing all who don’t profess the faith of Islam . And to top it of many in the U.S. were previously investigated by the alphabet soup of federal ass wipes who have to play a burnt out episode of Sienfeld “NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT” , clear them and of they go into our midst . Obviously Mr Stockman has his head where most devoted leftists find it , firmly up their own or someone else’s ass . Pity until a loved one of theirs is mamed or killed they will cruise in their Prius with the COEXIST sticker . Coexist , great Idea but all envolved must agree , well Dave it’s not happening ! Got a Better one ? Didn’t thinks
I started my search into Islam right after 9/11 2001 and knew then Islam was just another anti Christ religion satanic to the core.
That it took this Tom 16 years to finally get off his lazy butt to do his own research tells me all I need to know about him and probably 3/4 of the American population.
Dave Stockman is probably getting paid to lie.He can not possibly be this ignorant.
The article I wrote warning about Islam more than nine years ago and posted in 2011 is still valid.
Gerold,
Too bad you posted your link so late in this thread, which is about dead. It’s a great read and deserves a wide audience.
Gerold, your essay is indeed still valid today and very well written. Thanks for posting it here.
“It wasn’t that the barbarians over-ran the borders of Rome but that the Romans opened their borders and let them in.”
Either the powers that be know their history and are orchestrating their puppets to achieve its repetition, or they are profoundly ignorant of history, which I severely doubt. I’ll wager my money on the former.
“The U.N. and other international organizations already show little support for the U.S.”
Perhaps they are, in fact, showing their support for the globalist puppets that are steering this leaking, listing ship of a country to its watery grave.
Maggie
OK. So, are you going to write that article, or what?
A christian nation dropped two nuclear bombs on innocent civilians. A christian nation has maintained an entirely unjust war for over 14 years causing the deaths of over 1 million people. A christian nation started WW2 and committed a genocide of over 6 million people. I can go on forever listing christian atrocities. Yes, Islam is a shitty religion, but they’re all shitty religions. Get off your high fucking horse. Religion is not the problem, government is.